singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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* m  Y# `# q9 R多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".6 c: k. A0 Z8 {- n
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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/ ?  K3 d' [, y  L例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%( d* C/ a  D# g$ S3 C
會考就係最好的例子.+ |* Q- S/ g* T! b; @( [: o4 j7 b: p
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:$ w7 J7 P9 ]' w

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yes, i get yr poi ...

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um...
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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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& X& @7 m! ^- i* H$ Rgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:( x) Z) O- q+ n/ \2 a: {

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. ?& q* a1 n7 l1 K# o多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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0 `) F% E7 p/ N5 a* }# whahhaa, 不用客氣
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$ u' f% [6 t+ ]2 ]( f我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 : x2 U* m. j8 k: q
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀* O0 Y5 v" \1 _8 A5 @+ h

. e2 R" W' A* R5 i1 ~' i哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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hahhaa, 不用客氣; p, B- b5 m+ E/ p, o6 a

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.8 I9 t* y" z  l% s" v7 |9 k+ r

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:- h* ?7 S* ~  L9 ]

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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.9 |' i/ V( l! g$ A) H
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢( P' K+ L$ x# W# ~
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦8 u* ^2 U- h; c

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:' M1 A! `& [1 p  l, s

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0 S. I1 F3 L0 Z9 g" i  }  Shaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 3 `# O6 E5 {1 E  u3 \6 n5 z9 }% E
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la* G0 ^- l, x9 ~5 |: B- \# z4 Z6 U
besides, crap! interest to ask u  I2 ~& s) W+ ]: U! M& s
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!