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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:*nj1o(P l}%~%d
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[color=Blue]『有 13 粒波子,有 12粒是重量相同的,有 1 粒是重量不同的 (沒有列明是輕了 / 重了)。
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:!}!p-u!e2Z)g7Wb
[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]2NP)K5Z M
我以前畫左個chart去答,w9pgE?l
等我搵下仲在吾在:D:D:Db)TMd/rz

H^] X\df2m~O 當日用左37分鐘答12粒波子,差7分鐘才合格。6U$I#d!Y*c*F7p
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:
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等我搵下... [/quote]
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16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:
U(^L0~AYcbi [color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:#~'C0{8pid?+WF

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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:
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8UyZ5h)f4Dj 你又吾知粒波子輕D定重D ..... 咁点解第三步只磅4-6 吾磅1-3 . 如果個波子係輕D ,咁4-6 就一定一樣咁重 :naughty::naughty:

Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:1i4w7hu:_N$J

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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){@2J)O!t1P 駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?)h5R`;tY_M@
12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~7f Jf6_8j&{%n5g6S1M
但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:
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駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM: R i Y,o7zJc
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吾知輕左定重左喎.......冇得咁假設 ---> 『一早知边粒輕左/重左 』使問由''已知的假設答案''出發,又点會推算出岩答案;););)

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:
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feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07: W5s0{)uVbOW
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0K"]!LzF Wc:Bl["~t's 頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎??? [/quote]9~"@ULB9Ww

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[color=White]先將13粒波子分為5份….姑且叫佢地做A,B,C,D及E…
dq3D o$M+z A,B,C,D四份都係3粒波子…..最後E果份就係1粒波子….T7j!__'k"OIh u`$I
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先假設果一粒晌E果份到…..咁就簡單….
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跟手磅C同D….大家亦都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…%jQj ld1LX1N
最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…^f;s1?8Dh%s
咁樣就證明左A=B=C=D…咁果粒當然就係E啦…..
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世事當然唔會咁簡單…..如果果粒唔同既晌A/B/C/D度又點???
2|/Ya&G\]q 假設佢晌A度…..
7Nx0?O%v b)J0UF2A 先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)….
4B[ET)x6k8a,q 跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…0[2e5i~Bqu3WD3D
係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..
X#k;JyUU1I 如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
M[@}d%wJ/b,]J 有排打.

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:+n2iQ\D
做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?7tTQ@ hr M h'e
有排打. [/quote]
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM: I#k"k7m)B(R
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跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
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1N uVe&qR4\S@m 如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….x%Q(S"P[

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