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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol: K!SV*stI G:m$nA-Q
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[color=Blue]『有 13 粒波子,有 12粒是重量相同的,有 1 粒是重量不同的 (沒有列明是輕了 / 重了)。
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:;_e9\.w6l!`W ^
[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]
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等我搵下仲在吾在:D:D:D"s}_$k6kx k0F
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當日用左37分鐘答12粒波子,差7分鐘才合格。
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:
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記得穩藏答案

16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:n@1i`}K:D

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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:c_X.ZZl}U"a8h0^e"K @
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:8emS,hl'ilMs-m:u
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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GD2wS"CLs 駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?
.E+W _SCX7]f 12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~
)I$gN)Z#oHR 但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:u)D y^&k$]
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:"u4Jn"W"U.I$L$W
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:+dx{U n|

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K,a,J&eW/Gg2J 頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎???

feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:
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A,B,C,D四份都係3粒波子…..最後E果份就係1粒波子….
_0X,X)]6x\5X 咁果一粒當然一定晌A,B,C,D,E果五份是但一份到….
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先磅A同B….大家都會係一樣(第一次磅)…. Lb;S'KS-S-V{/i
跟手磅C同D….大家亦都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
#a6VN@)l9HG;NZ 最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…
2[f&H LcQA 咁樣就證明左A=B=C=D…咁果粒當然就係E啦…..
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先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)…. )lg%Z@3XF3]`+og
跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)… g:[:X |'yL"M'G
係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..
} o7}_QF_ 如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:
8Ab:vkN2]8V2m6tu2Y 做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
+u5K;v+P.V 有排打. [/quote]
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:
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e.N a%e!@T 先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)…. 7[,{G Q ?jq]
跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
hh;M m ]0`)g\CA 係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦….. U?;h&k$[x-x(\
如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
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而晌咁既情形下E無論點當然都唔駛磅啦…..(佢一定唔係唔同果粒)…x7i7k hwk+yx

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