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[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 04:42 AM:/z,t`A+T
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第二步( 亦可得知 [color=Maroon]B1[/color] <> [color=Maroon]A4 T+[/color] ).....成立
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 06:56:
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對,我更正了,幫我看看仲有冇錯,累了
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:10 AM:
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對,我更正了,幫我看看仲有冇錯,累了
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26 AM:d7J'U%f4D } a/?.F|
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[size=5][color=Green]完原來人老了真係會變蠢,30歲果陣用咗37分鐘,(t VA"[/t3V7t
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 00:20:XKj
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PLAY兄,我仲未答,因為有野問,問清楚先答
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or你俾13粒波子俾我,話俾我聽有一粒係輕左,然後叫我搵出黎
(2)你俾13粒波子我,話俾我聽,唔知佢輕左定重左,叫我搵出黎
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如果要透過3次操作,要在13粒波子中搵出一粒未知重左定輕左ge波子,我會說是不可能的
但我見到又有人答到wor,雖然我沒有看他們的答案(所以我唔知係邊種情況,我估佢地答0岩掛...)
所以我覺得係問題出在我身上,但又不能確定
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 14:43: ?)`6o4W&e
PLAY兄,我仲未答,因為有野問,問清楚先... [/quote]
唔知佢輕左定重左!!! 如果知輕重,還須要諗嗎?_*\!b d&]
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 03:12 PM:
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情況(2),唔佢知輕左定重左.
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其實playplay係個問題度已經有好大提示,13粒同12粒大同小異,
可以先諗下12粒點樣solve,W!b-u)A$FnY
我好耐以前諗過12粒,當時我用我自己嘅方法solve到,
因為得唔得自己可以證實,所以一路冇睇過答案.
亦冇再深入諗個原理,所以亦局限咗自己,
而家知咗原理,就發現自己當時武斷地覺得太簡單了,是何其笨實.:D _nUN*Vw
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我絕無講大話
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選那二個對那二個？:confused::confused::confused:
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 11:33 PM:\
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在夢中,在我喜歡的女仔生日哥時,我送左兩樣野俾佢<===這是真的^^[color=White](佢琴日生日ga!!)[/color]
(我送咩俾佢?唔話你知,等你心思思 XD)
到我生日哥時,個女仔送左一隻介戒指俾我...<===這是不可能的><
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這次實在太失敗,想了兩天才完工,唉~傷心...
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解zip遇到問題,記得返黎睇呢個post:P:P
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