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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:34 AM

[size=5][color=Teal]在推理問題時,我們可以用 '' 如果/ if '' #E"E8t1eA+W
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在 ''如果'' 之下有''如果'' .....一直至沒有''如果'' .....那就是真正答案Ksu#a0MC3Q

X%rv:V'w#b&EZp5U 但推理問題時,我們用 ''假設''
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 04:42 AM

[size=6][color=Red]別偷看,最難是如何開始,一看就冇意義.雖然錯了:D[/color][/size]
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-2 05:29 AM

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等埋我返黎先呀~~

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 06:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 04:42 AM: lr{`:B1]Wd9w;?
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9E.r"y S7H3y [color=Green]再由第一步資料( 亦可得知   B1 <> A4  T+ )[/color]
UcC#y,@+i(?1Hl 最後如何下定論 {A3,[color=Maroon]B1[/color]<>[color=Maroon]A4[/color],N(C)},[color=Maroon]T+[/color]  = [color=Red]  A4(-)   [/color] ]+^5^W.mTo
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 07:10 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 06:56:
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對,我更正了,幫我看看仲有冇錯,累了*CY-hTWEO?

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 07:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:10 AM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 07:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 07:34 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26 AM:
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'L:M^,R!}1vs 仲有錯?我好唔清醒啦!!定我清醒再睇番.
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 12:20 AM

[size=5][color=Green]完原來人老了真係會變蠢,30歲果陣用咗37分鐘,5[9w2~7qlM
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 01:28 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 00:20:9p ?I(bG(Q"HY
[size=5][color=Green]完原來人老了真... [/quote] ?g a7y+B
#22最好hiden埋,因為雖然係錯,但原理一樣.

2000 發表於 2007-3-3 04:01 AM

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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-3 02:43 PM

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假如啦,我而家面前真係有13粒波子係度,咁在我開始操作前,我知唔知有問題粒係重左定輕左呢?;m5W rBW;@&GO
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(2)你俾13粒波子我,話俾我聽,唔知佢輕左定重左,叫我搵出黎
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 03:12 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 14:43:
M.D7`3J*g:WTS PLAY兄,我仲未答,因為有野問,問清楚先... [/quote])^+n$|GZ,l^8lY
唔知佢輕左定重左!!! 如果知輕重,還須要諗嗎?
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試一試再想想才去否定還未遲.
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O/XXli6u 不過原來playplay個答案係好簡單,ohv PU7[Sj
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-3 03:27 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 03:12 PM:
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A$~#K(S%`,D"b(T'fJ 咁係咪即係情況(2)?

guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 03:45 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 15:27:
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2r1|yF^r4A 亦冇再深入諗個原理,所以亦局限咗自己,
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而家知咗原理,就發現自己當時武斷地覺得太簡單了,是何其笨實.:Dj3oVT?2hT
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-3 06:09 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 03:27 PM:
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大優勢 發表於 2007-3-3 06:22 PM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-3 07:06 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]大優勢[/i] at 2007-3-3 06:22 PM:
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U#_,d)Yd7DF 比心機喇兄弟 :agree::agree:我會等你:good:

guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 11:33 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]大優勢[/i] at 2007-3-3 18:22:
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-4 08:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 11:33 PM:.nY6^-|^7\4V`

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