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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:34 AM

[size=5][color=Teal]在推理問題時,我們可以用 '' 如果/ if '' ^)Hi#W(\?
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在 ''如果'' 之下有''如果'' .....一直至沒有''如果'' .....那就是真正答案
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 04:42 AM

[size=6][color=Red]別偷看,最難是如何開始,一看就冇意義.雖然錯了:D[/color][/size]
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-2 05:29 AM

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等埋我返黎先呀~~

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 06:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 04:42 AM:
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如{A1,2,B1,2<>A3,4,B3,N(C)}T+,但是左邊重了,即A3,A4輕了或B1,B2重了:  所以: A3,B1<>A4,N(C) jy$V3W6WSZ

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[color=Blue]首先由 第二步知道 A3,4,B1,2 有問題 ( 亦得知   B1 <> A4  T+  )[/color]
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 07:10 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 07:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:10 AM:%T$Vtq'wk \ w

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 07:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 07:34 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26 AM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 12:20 AM

[size=5][color=Green]完原來人老了真係會變蠢,30歲果陣用咗37分鐘,bh P7H Gd4G t'E4v"h
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 01:28 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 00:20:
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2000 發表於 2007-3-3 04:01 AM

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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-3 02:43 PM

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 03:12 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 14:43:&L)|3p/wjbJx Bh
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&ey.y2D"|} 試一試再想想才去否定還未遲.
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-3 03:27 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 03:12 PM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 03:45 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 15:27:hYcFvp
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Ak;j6V3V3b/A2},A 其實playplay係個問題度已經有好大提示,13粒同12粒大同小異,*a2F4? RfBG
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亦冇再深入諗個原理,所以亦局限咗自己,
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而家知咗原理,就發現自己當時武斷地覺得太簡單了,是何其笨實.:D
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-3 06:09 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 03:27 PM:
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大優勢 發表於 2007-3-3 06:22 PM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-3 07:06 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]大優勢[/i] at 2007-3-3 06:22 PM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 11:33 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]大優勢[/i] at 2007-3-3 18:22:
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-4 08:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 11:33 PM:/E OaK] Y7v@

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