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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:O$C7e| wb
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[color=Blue]『有 13 粒波子，有 12粒是重量相同的，有 1 粒是重量不同的 (沒有列明是輕了 / 重了)。
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[color=Red]1.[/color] 回答題目時,波子的名稱代號請用使用 1,2,3,.......至13 等數目代表, 即1 代表1號波子 , 13 代表13號波子.....以方便查證1i W4\9oy@
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:
g'v/Lg)` [color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]
KE;j.W`7^ 我以前畫左個chart去答,sw(V };m{;]
等我搵下仲在吾在:D:D:D:aWQ1VI

#v}6s[?#@F 當日用左37分鐘答１２粒波子，差７分鐘才合格。
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:
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16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:)p7P}8|
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:;h"_'yh0hl _-Mw
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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:
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你又吾知粒波子輕D定重D ..... 咁点解第三步只磅4-6 吾磅1-3 . 如果個波子係輕D ,咁4-6 就一定一樣咁重 :naughty::naughty:

Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:bi^ o?)huUCD

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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c#t;SFtrV4Z 駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?HY]3R"`
12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~
$y(`DM)C:W)@ I 但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:
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v#u rn2rn 13粒 一定得 :agree::agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:
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feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:3]t YzR

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?2m8[y%D|3n
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:
y5r9c)~G ?%RZ 做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:*^Sbf_%~CI
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