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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:i6hQi^
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[color=Blue]『有 13 粒波子，有 12粒是重量相同的，有 1 粒是重量不同的 (沒有列明是輕了 / 重了)。
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:V_3oT!GU
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:S2JM?"RP ~

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16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:
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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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Xf){Xj6G 12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~
j$U"w8h @ 但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:,w:ASa4}T:dY~
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:!n^ W.m DhL
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:
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1a(g}1[wy$\ S+m 頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎???

feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:
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T^ 係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..
3l-?LR@ w1Y;_6|:qT 如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM: p@7J+n&E~2@
做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:j5Un9lU U

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