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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:8p1I&J T*y3Z#F
[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]
f)W#o:I&b$^|&t!? 我以前畫左個chart去答,
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:4?
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16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:HS/R3~@ M
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:
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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:,NW7Lm,ORz
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^R1h%K"t,MAsGVk 不如你都玩吓喇....叫[u]d叔叔[/u]加分咪得囉:agree::agree:........如果岩既話:lol::dev::D:D [/quote]r B l"\Br.IRN0rU
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?KW:R%a+[l"j
12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:s Y/Z%YW'IXnx|
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:Z"Nxb$P,Ho7rf
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:es8Jl7s'e4B5I2e t

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feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:
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如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:%|WS2r'F
做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?qPf:z4a uSg`
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:+~m_@Qiz0k,B

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