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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:
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[color=Blue]『有 13 粒波子，有 12粒是重量相同的，有 1 粒是重量不同的 (沒有列明是輕了 / 重了)。
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:
eTg#wl_:\ [color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]
'Fy#v5T3V 我以前畫左個chart去答,0|0e{O"hL,V
等我搵下仲在吾在:D:D:D
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當日用左37分鐘答１２粒波子，差７分鐘才合格。
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM: wz%s+@*Lweb
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16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:$g!d*w$T6`J
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PlayPlay, Let me know later who has the right answer and I will add points accordingly.
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:
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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:
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你又吾知粒波子輕D定重D ..... 咁点解第三步只磅4-6 吾磅1-3 . 如果個波子係輕D ,咁4-6 就一定一樣咁重 :naughty::naughty:

Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:rm0j4a;DK$_]"kj}
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0yvYQ/y3dQV1w 不如你都玩吓喇....叫[u]d叔叔[/u]加分咪得囉:agree::agree:........如果岩既話:lol::dev::D:D [/quote]7]:g7dx Cs.\%Ro|

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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4FZ\!d8GZL$n 駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?

Z;tr[6YJ 12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~
)S'g*m i R6i 但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:
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13粒 一定得 :agree::agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM::B EEP.Yi7?u
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:.v be9^4T'dn(`4bt@

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feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:
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跟手磅C同D….大家亦都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
x Yq$j#X,[d 最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?&O0MMD~
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM: S*_S%Q-i
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:
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如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
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