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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:

[color=Blue]『有 13 粒波子，有 12粒是重量相同的，有 1 粒是重量不同的 (沒有列明是輕了 / 重了)。^"]T,P`
現准許使用 3 次天秤。請解釋怎樣才能找出 13 粒內那 1 粒重量不相等 (即是重了 / 輕了) 的波子呢？』[/color]/Fm&X^-X;vFF`
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[color=Red]1.[/color] 回答題目時,波子的名稱代號請用使用 1,2,3,.......至13 等數目代表, 即1 代表1號波子 , 13 代表13號波子.....以方便查證$dB#J S,L/J_
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:
[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]9T C#aqw
我以前畫左個chart去答,b-\ L!]x fF
等我搵下仲在吾在:D:D:D
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當日用左37分鐘答１２粒波子，差７分鐘才合格。
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM: X }5KV rr0tLxd

我以前畫左個chart去答,:H!u`%Cb)H'F
等我搵下... [/quote]

記得穩藏答案

16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:qTk6S @Q$u
[size=6][color=Green]唔識隱藏...已經諗到[/color][/size]..:help: [/quote]
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[color=Red]sor !!!....e加改左[/color]
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[color=Red]2. [/color]請回答題目的朋友使用'' 反白功能 '' (即係將D字既颜色改為白色,白色颜色在黑色颜色上一行,透明的呢)穩藏回答答案,費事比其他人抄i,A yb;n'nV _F

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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM::E!Qp2kK9d)?$U@
[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]/vY1MD_(E?&t
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PlayPlay, Let me know later who has the right answer and I will add points accordingly.kd5kb;t @i5l8Xb

Thanks

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:;U8O+Q:^Y
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PlayPlay, Let me know later who has the right answer and I will add points accordingly.ww9q-EO zyg{(g

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不如你都玩吓喇....叫[u]d叔叔[/u]加分咪得囉:agree::agree:........如果岩既話:lol::dev::D:D

Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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if 1-6 = 7-12 13 is fake

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if 4=5 6 is the fake one jA6BIaDW
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if 4>5 4 is the fake one
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and so on......................

hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

[color=White]分3組4隻波子秤/I&HIHdj

Group A: 1,2,3,4
Group B: 5,6,7,8.KR7O5\ R.e
Group C: 9,10,11,12%s)x1e"g,]O A}*d!I^
Group D: 13b&U#|Rr%?&mU)U

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Group Cb: 11,12jx*c8N2{iXM
然後再秤, 如一樣, 即13為較輕一粒.Y+e7j@*c!F;E

如不同, 即較輕一組有一粒較輕波子在其中,
要再秤, Round 3, 之後便知答案."g!eS5j{q2u#wh

e.g. #1 假設10為較輕的一粒
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1,2,3,4 vs 5,6,7,8 = equal*}e)UP-d

Round 2
9,10 vs 11,12 = 9,10 < 11,12C8d8w/hc*kc
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The answer is 10.
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e.g. #2 假設7為較輕的一粒
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1,2,3,4 vs 5,6,7,8 = 1,2,3,4 > 5,6,7,8\y(Zp a`C

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5,6 vs 7,8 = 5,6 > 7,80Au+z-]&[!Fn]

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e.g. #3 假設13為較輕的一粒,@6{|t$U
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1,2,3,4 vs 5,6,7,8 = equal

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唔知我答得正唔正確呢?! :agree:K{!x2C'} @*D3W aT

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:
1.
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if 1-6 = 7-12    13 is fake

if not
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Weight 1:  1-6> 7-12

Weight 2:  4-6 > 1-3 /Rw g}4y4Qv
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你又吾知粒波子輕D定重D ..... 咁点解第三步只磅4-6 吾磅1-3 . 如果個波子係輕D ,咁4-6 就一定一樣咁重 :naughty::naughty:

Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:

不如你都玩吓喇....叫[u]d叔叔[/u]加分咪得囉:agree::agree:........如果岩既話:lol::dev::D:D [/quote]

我邊夠IQ玩，加分我就識（加分唔洗用腦架:dev::P）

guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知? `z:Ov)D0S4~;L
12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~ p!LgK6K+Z5q@7`
但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:am'oEs)y/l"\F
playplay,
駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?
12粒就可以,13粒...... [/quote]t5xB^V^6[0z+x
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如果將個答案攞去做實驗.......最後真係會知边粒波子輕左或重左.......不過係文字上,輕左或重左都冇乜所謂(又比左Tips :lol:),i1i3n9p w ^

13粒一定得 :agree::agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:F7d#Cu*D.xff
[color=White]分3組4隻波子秤

Grou... [/quote](d&YS;vK

吾知輕左定重左喎.......冇得咁假設 ---> 『一早知边粒輕左/重左』使問由''已知的假設答案''出發,又点會推算出岩答案;););)

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:

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我邊夠IQ玩，加分我就識（加分唔洗用腦架:dev::P） [/quote]Ykr(L:c4coW)O

頑童俱樂部 #64580 :confused: ok 嗎???

feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:[rc"HAu

頑童俱樂部 #64580 :confused: ok 嗎??? [/quote]v7Z\#vi:a_Aw
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冇勇氣面對你...不過至少有勇氣答你既問題.....我答完覺得仲係有d唔妥......不過我好相信我呢個應該好接近答案..........去片...(`9B1KY1H P

[color=White]先將13粒波子分為5份….姑且叫佢地做A,B,C,D及E…
A,B,C,D四份都係3粒波子…..最後E果份就係1粒波子….SEz1J }'?`k
咁果一粒當然一定晌A,B,C,D,E果五份是但一份到….%^0fYU1x
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先假設果一粒晌E果份到…..咁就簡單….
先磅A同B….大家都會係一樣(第一次磅)….
跟手磅C同D….大家亦都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…0e-BS-u]6G
咁樣就證明左A=B=C=D…咁果粒當然就係E啦…..

世事當然唔會咁簡單…..如果果粒唔同既晌A/B/C/D度又點???
假設佢晌A度…..J&swm;W
先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)…. a4g$kk7_A9o:hQ
跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…M\tGA"w x(a f
係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..
如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….!bw`ei$RM

而晌咁既情形下E無論點當然都唔駛磅啦…..(佢一定唔係唔同果粒)…)M!h5kikv{

如果果粒唔同既晌B/C/D度都係用一樣原理咁抽佢出黎……[/color]

guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?(v*o a'g'L&V&e d
有排打.

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:Np{.a@WeBb
做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?1jU.f9u7c9WKF
有排打. [/quote]$ml(r$yz&kd/Y@

你scan圖 , 之後zip (再加密碼)......你e+係度嗎???.......去[甘肛] 上載附件所需積分 1290 , 我下了會call你, 你就馬上 dele 吧 ...... 第二日,再揾機會比密碼:agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:gD;T)Fb0\E

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世事當然唔會咁簡單…..如果果粒唔同既晌A/B/C/D度又點???Peu;P8j[
[color=Red]假設佢晌A度…..[/color]u3~HuQSK
先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)….
跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…#oK"c$h"Ea bln
係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..
如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
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而晌咁既情形下E無論點當然都唔駛磅啦…..(佢一定唔係唔同果粒)…Q5fgS&Bk:Z

如果果粒唔同既晌B/C/D度都係用一樣原理咁抽佢出黎……[/quote]Q2o*~vz7C7c Q
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