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SKII999 發表於 2008-1-17 07:26 PM

想問大家一條數,,

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          a-c=101 MMn4n*_X
          求b
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托迪仔T 發表於 2008-1-17 07:42 PM

a=101, b&c =0 :D

SKII999 發表於 2008-1-17 07:52 PM

我都知,,但唔知點得出個ans.,,anyway,,THX

ch.chak 發表於 2008-1-17 09:38 PM

a=101-c
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101b + 0*b - 101*0=0
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sakura310 發表於 2008-1-17 09:58 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]ch.chak[/i] at 2008-1-17 09:38 PM:&^G:I sYD4y
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ch.chak 發表於 2008-1-17 10:53 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2008-1-17 09:58 PM:
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呀俊 發表於 2008-1-17 11:00 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]托迪仔T[/i] at 2008-1-17 07:42 PM:
XCZ R$|Fxhq a=101, b&c =0 :D [/quote]:`4Ia+tI&E
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咁玩法...如果c係-101...a同b=0 都得架wo:D

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-17 11:58 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  09:58 PM:
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sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 12:08 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2008-1-17 11:58 PM:x_1x%b[~%b"^Wq dt!p
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6PAW*R8KD?1p h 咁你又吾去計;);):P:P [/quote]Nz0C7u8g#V Yv,F,O
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:Gsz+U(A_.z2Z:_U| 咁你呢~你又唔去計?:dev::dev:
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等了這麼久也沒人貼答案出來0C5G? ]~

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由於題目沒有說到a,b和c是甚麼數,我暫且假設係整數黎做(光是實數的話...太沒意思了...)1T!A(N7cPT#Y K(W

P9LuX[{w 如果是實數的話,那麼請看到左邊2/3就可以了,中間和右邊是整數的解集(次序:左>中>右)
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playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:21 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:08 AM:
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$Y;Z,n[P6R&w%\2e 個答案可以咁.....
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a-c=101(w&H0UUTvp
b=ac/(a+c)=(101c+c^2)/(101+2c)
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101n代入c
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[101^2*n+(101n)^2]/(101+202n)
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因為a、b、c是正整數;S*F)wL`h
所以n是正整數
uO'Y0YG%]3Qu 所以[101n(n+1)]/(2n+1)是整數J_N8D%Q5}
2n+1=101(剩下的2n+1=n或2n+1=n+1,n沒有整數解)#ZO ~sa P9n%f#j}
n=50 U0\E4X_3WX
a=5151  <--a-c=101
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c=5050  <--c=101n&g^]-O4Inc0b
答案:b=2550

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 12:27 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:30 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:27 AM::b~#}4e.AT\
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之後DL (就变成第二次)

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:34 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:27 AM:
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7@0j2y3@(Ak 係電腦打答案...的確幾煩...又哂時間...:giveup:

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 06:47 AM

捉錯處就唔敢當$z ~%fjT[m
不過,c=101n哥度(解除n係正整數的限制,只是整數)
)O4J s4I4E%v 就一下子限制左c一定要係101的倍數(好像看懸疑片,突然劇情說出一些事前沒提及過的線索,不爽~)
\4VG%|#~Ln"Y3R 知道{101,0,0}和{5151,2550,5050}係答案的話,當然沒問題
\&df H0X]Z'] 但原先是不知答案,所以唔知有無失根0L~O,yO q6Z1e3v
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有時見到題目都感到有點不爽
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5ih*M3l0b 有些題目,整數解和正整數解分別好大的說,要找出整數解集有時可不是件易事= =

cutec 發表於 2008-1-18 08:26 AM

冇答案ga....oB,{/A.Y*E,T

&p+q%A!M*m1A 2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga....

Azuma 發表於 2008-1-18 08:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]cutec[/i] at 2008-1-18 08:26 AM::?y lq"eN&|
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sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 10:22 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]cutec[/i] at 2008-1-18 08:26 AM:
;Cb[&_)j4x` 冇答案ga....
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此言差矣~
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還欠一個條件,就是3條equation都是linear independent(線性無關)的
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在這情況下,當然是想求n個未知數,至少要用n條線性無關的方程
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例如 x^2-2(x+8y)+17+4y^2+z^0.5=0 就只有唯一整數解
;et+q^z7F 有興趣就解解看:sleep:
G;~3O6VS 不懂的話就問playplay,佢會知答案:dev:

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 02:47 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  10:22 AM:
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$}1L,^:U}T7v 不懂的話就問playplay,佢會知答案[/quote]
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playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 02:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  06:47 AM:
\_ak+N@ 捉錯處就唔敢當
4Z4n&Qv4j8ui 不過,c=101n哥度(解... [/quote]
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1?RLX*pn 都係睇餸食飯姐 , 無理由因為題目冇同你假設就下下大包圍架
)t8nU0b,Fs*m'YK,x!z 反而適當地調節一下 , 咁會理性好多
*RH#P(U#gCcR 就好似隻game 由12粒珠 加到13粒珠咁"X(c*Qqgw t.Q#}
當''堂''好玩哂:P:P:Pu+v.u6Rb:Gu&W/A

`5A ol`G,N p.s. 求''堂''字正寫:agree::giveup:

QuiGonJinn 發表於 2008-1-19 03:49 AM

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