[quote]原帖由 [i]Triangel[/i] 於 2008-10-3 01:02 AM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2880081&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
過到又死， 唔過又死:help: [/quote]
點解???你意思係個數仍然唔夠照???
好耐冇同你講過野.....:kicking: :kicking: :kicking:
不過要訓.....:kicking:
[quote]原帖由 [i]feuosma[/i] 於 2008-10-3 12:46 AM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2880027&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Lee3大....你意思係就算今次過到參議院...但係跟住一樣都會過唔到眾議院??? [/quote]
I wish. If the House rejects it, it will be for the best, but I thought the House votes first, then goes to the Senate.
quote: [url]http://english.hotnews.ro/stiri-regional_europe-4612941-senate-approves-700-billion-rescue-plan-house-representatives-take-final-decision.htm[/url]
It contains two provisions favored by House Republicans: One raises thelimit on federal bank-deposit insurance; the other reiterates theauthority of securities regulators to suspend asset-valuing rules thatcorporate executives blame for fueling the crisis"
Tax provisions in the new version of the plan are expected to win thenecessary votes in the House of Representatives, several politiciansdeclared for the US media and the international press agencies.
In laymen terms, the amount they insure is higher, but most people don't have that much in the bank. The other gives power to the government, power the federal reserve already has.
Basically it's pork. A 700 billion dollar pork barrel.
[size=5][color=red]Dow falls 348 as investors worry that the House won't approve the $700B plan.[/color][/size]
[color=blue]"There's still concern about whether or not the House will pass the bill and even if they do, whether it will be effective," said Ron Kiddoo, chief investment officer at Cozad Asset Management. [/color]
[color=indigo]"When you restrict credit, you restrict the ability of commerce to grow to its potential," said Gus Scacco[/color]
"[color=darkred]Banks have a limited amount of capital to dole out, so even if you are a company that is seeing decent growth, you are probably having a hard time getting a loan," he said. [/color]
[color=darkred][/color]
[color=darkred]The higher bank lending rates directly impact consumers too, he said, making it hard to get auto loans, or loans for a mortgage or tuition. Credit card companies are approving less people or trimming lines of credit, leaving individuals with less buying power. Consumer spending fuels two-thirds of economic growth.[/color]:giveup:
[color=blue][b][color=red]Bailout:[/color][/b] The core of the bill allows the Treasury Department to buy $700 billion in bad mortgage assets from banks, to be held and eventually sold off if and when the market improves. Ideally, with cleaner balance sheets, banks would start lending to each other again, loosening up the nearly frozen credit markets.[/color]
[quote]原帖由 [i]Triangel[/i] 於 2008-10-3 04:50 AM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2880318&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Dow falls 348 as investors worry that the House won't approve the $700B plan.
"There's still concern about whether or not the House will pass the bill and even if they do, whether it will be effective ... [/quote]
and there is NOTHING on returning the money. Hence the biggest problem. Notice that everyone the report quotes work at high managerial positions. The bailout is intended to give these fkfaces a lot of free money from the government. These people are the same people who got the US and the REST OF THE WORLD in this financial crisis. The people who support the bill ARE THESE FKFACES' FRIENDS. That is why you DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS BILL.
[quote]原帖由 [i]Lee3[/i] 於 2008-10-3 05:48 AM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2880335&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
and there is NOTHING on returning the money. Hence the biggest problem. Notice that everyone the report quotes work at high managerial positions. The bailout is intended to give these fkfaces a lot ... [/quote]
I can't agree more with your point; :yy17:
However, nobody on earth has such a big bullet that can halt the crisis except from US Government.:yy26:
AIG has vanished, and so do many of the banks next door to you will follow. uc davis will have "Zero" budget for the scholarship. Students like me have no money to eat in school cafe and cafe owner can't borrow money for the bank and :yy36:.
Worst, some freshman can't borrow school loan anymore and want to keep their life style, they might start considering PT dancing at night and weekend.:yy29:
[quote]原帖由 [i]Triangel[/i] 於 2008-10-3 06:27 AM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2880339&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I can't agree more with your point; :yy17:
However, nobody on earth has such a big bullet that can halt the crisis except from US Government.:yy26:
AIG has vanished, and so do many of the banks next ... [/quote]
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/165008/Tax-Wealthy-to-Pay-For-Bailout.html
that guy has the balls.
I've been reading the news like a hound. The House will MOST LIKELY pass it. The future is doomed.
[size=4][color=Navy][color=Blue]10,607.34 | ↑124.49 [/color] [/color][/size]
[quote]原帖由 [i]Triangel[/i] 於 2008-10-3 10:09 PM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2881106&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
10,607.34 | ↑124.49 [/quote]
the market is rising because people are going "hey, this is a good buying time", not just people here in the US, but people all around the world. The world is one big international market, what happens here affects the world, just as something in the HK market affects the US. This is why we do not need the 700 billion bill, we need to STOP printing more money, we need to STOP devaluing the dollar, the world WANTS to BUY. The last time someone printed out so much money, devalued their money so much, was Japan. They brought down the entire continent of Asia.
[size=6][color=blue][b]$700B bailout passes[/b][size=2]
[color=black]President Bush poised to quickly sign historic $700 billion plan into law.[/color][/size][/color][/size]:redface:
[size=4][color=red][b]Woman, 90, shoots self inside foreclosed home[/b][/color][/size]
[size=2].... telling her story. "This bill fails to address the fact that millions of homeowners are facing foreclosure, [/size][size=2]are facing the loss of their home. This bill will take care of Wall Street, and the market may go up for a few days, but democracy is going downhill.":giveup: [/size]
[[i] 本帖最後由 Triangel 於 2008-10-4 02:43 AM 編輯 [/i]]
[quote]原帖由 [i]Triangel[/i] 於 2008-10-4 02:24 AM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2881683&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
$700B bailout passes
President Bush poised to quickly sign historic $700 billion plan into law.:redface:
Woman, 90, shoots self inside foreclosed home
.... telling her story. "This bill fails to a ... [/quote]
That is the root inherent problem OF THIS BILL. THIS IS WHY IT WAS IT WAS BLOCKED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE GOVERNMENT IS OUT TO DESTROY ALL NORMAL AMERICANS, BOTH MCCAIN AND OBAMA APPROVED OF IT. AND WE EXPECT THOSE TWO TO LEAD THE COUNTRY? TO WHAT, INEVITABLE DESTRUCTION?:yy34:
[quote]原帖由 [i]Lee3[/i] 於 2008-10-4 04:10 AM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2881729&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
That is the root inherent problem OF THIS BILL. THIS IS WHY IT WAS IT WAS BLOCKED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE GOVERNMENT IS OUT TO DESTROY ALL NORMAL AMERICANS, BOTH MCCAIN AND OBAMA APPROVED OF IT. A ... [/quote]
Block 左又 Approve....:giveup:
Approve 左又未必好:giveup:
呢個事世，
做 Student 最好，
乜都唔駛理~
[quote]原帖由 [i]Triangel[/i] 於 2008-10-4 02:24 AM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2881683&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
$700B bailout passes
President Bush poised to quickly sign historic $700 billion plan into law.:redface:
[b][size=4][color=#ff0000]Woman, 90, shoots self inside foreclosed home[/color][/size][/b]
.... telling her story. "This bill fails to a ... [/quote]
[b][size=5][color=blue]Fannie Mae forgives loan for woman who shot herself[/color][/size]
[/b]"We're going to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the loan and give her the house," Faith said. "Given the circumstances, we think it's appropriate.":agree: :clap: :clap:
[[i] 本帖最後由 Triangel 於 2008-10-5 12:21 AM 編輯 [/i]]
[quote]原帖由 [i]Triangel[/i] 於 2008-10-4 05:28 AM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2881739&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Block 左又 Approve....:giveup:
Approve 左又未必好:giveup:
呢個事世，
做 Student 最好，
乜都唔駛理~ [/quote]
no, being a student sucks, being Non-American is the best. Not only is my tuition based on financial aid, I also work. Therefore not only are they taking my tax money, and instead of giving it back through financial aid, they have no money for financial aid because they're giving it all to the rich people.
[quote]原帖由 [i]Triangel[/i] 於 2008-10-5 12:19 AM 發表 [url=redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2882565&ptid=191349][img]images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Fannie Mae forgives loan for woman who shot herself
"We'regoing to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the loan andgive her the house," Faith said. "Given the circumstances, we think i... [/quote]
yes technically, they can get the loan back from her relatives. This is WHY WE DONT BAIL THEM OUT.
i saw this on facebook:
National Debt
After reading about the 700 billion, i thought hey, what about our national debt. Well, as we all know, it's about 10 trillion, tetering around 11 trillion, and i have facts to prove it.
In fact, aside from my little commentaries, all statistical facts are from the Treasury website, you know, where Paulson works.
So how much exactly does the US owe? Down to the PENNY?
Current Debt 10/02/2008
Held by the Public 5,869,084,491,601.97
Intragovernmental Holdings 4,279,664,792,482.18
Total Public Debt Outstanding
10,148,749,284,084.15
See that BIG FAT number under DEBT HELD BY THE PUBLIC?
That's what we owe. But that's not doing it justice, no, not even close. Let's break it down, TREASURY style.
What is the Debt Held by the Public?
The Debt Held by the Public is all federal debt held by individuals, corporations, state or local governments, foreign governments, and other entities outside the United States Government less Federal Financing Bank securities. Types of securities held by the public include, but are not limited to, Treasury Bills, Notes, Bonds, TIPS, United States Savings Bonds, and State and Local Government Series securities.
Now apparantly individuals and corporations are in the same category, because you know we make millions if not billions in our entry level jobs with no benefits and can barely cover rent, I know I DO. Now suddenly the market collapses, oh no! We have to save these corporations even though they're the ones who have been gouging the market with 1) outsourcing 2) firing low level employees to protect the assets of the HIGH management 3) selling companies like commodities thereby creating an unstable work place and fluid work force who will shift from job to job. Then there are the banks, who lend money of course. To people who have a history of not paying back money, SUB-PRIME mortgages they call it. Wow, that sounds like an awesome idea, give money to people who don't pay it back. Sounding similiar to something else? HOLD ON for JUST a second. Now let's see for a second, 5,869,084,491,601.97, who's been hitting the shopping? You? Me? We could but that would mean that we will have to spend just about 24/7 buying from Armani and Hermes, and buying everything in bulk of 200 ( i dont know, i'm just making an example). Still, who do you think contributed to this debt the most? The individuals or the corporations? Probably the latter right? So apparantly it's fair that we foot that bill. Of course.
Now back to that point earlier i told you to hold onto. Remember the details?
1)Loan LOTS of money
2)to a person(s) with NO CREDIT
3)and is not expected to be paid back "in full", in full is a direct quote
4)the money is used to buy assets
well, let's see how it goes. Well since you're buying with borrowed money, it's a mortgage right? I mean we've played monopoly. Having no credit, that's not being "good" or "top"
So NOT so good/top quality mortgages. What's it called again? sub-good? no. that word is used with Ribs too. PRIME. there we go. SUB-PRIME MORTGAGES!
Wait, so in order to save the economy from these bad sub-prime mortgages, we dish out a 700 billion dollar SUB-PRIME MORTGAGE.
And we vote for these people? Not bernanke and paulson, they get appointed. That's the government's way of saying "haha" (in the nelson muntz voice of course)
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6e/Nelson_Muntz.jpg/200px-Nelson_Muntz.jpg[/img]
[url=http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np]http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np[/url]
[url=http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/resources/faq/faq_publicdebt.htm#DebtMakeup]http://www.treasurydirect.gov/go ... debt.htm#DebtMakeup[/url]
[[i] 本帖最後由 Lee3 於 2008-10-6 06:45 AM 編輯 [/i]]
[size=4][color=red][b]Dow plummets more than 300 points, falling below 10,000 for the first time in nearly 4 years, as anxiety over global slowdown grows.:yy31:
[/b][/color][/size]Analysts doubt $700 billion bailout will be enough to avert a major shakeout
:yy29: :yy29: :yy29:
最新 | 升跌
DOW J 9,956.77 | -368.61
[[i] 本帖最後由 Triangel 於 2008-10-6 10:24 PM 編輯 [/i]]
[quote]原帖由 [i]Triangel[/i] 於 2008-10-6 10:07 PM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2885598&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Dow plummets more than 300 points, falling below 10,000 for the first time in nearly 4 years, as anxiety over global slowdown grows.:yy31:
Analysts doubt $700 billion bailout will be enough to avert ... [/quote]
get 7000 points in very nearby future.
[quote]原帖由 [i]d228216[/i] 於 2008-10-6 10:47 PM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2885718&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
get 7000 points in very nearby future. [/quote]
:gun::gun::gun:
[quote]原帖由 [i]Triangel[/i] 於 2008-10-6 10:50 PM 發表 [url=http://www.26fun.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2885729&ptid=191349][img]http://www.26fun.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
:gun::gun::gun: [/quote]
9,832 now :yy05: :yy05:
[size=5][color=blue][b]Dow claws back -- [/b][/color][/size]
[size=5][color=blue][b]ending down more than 300 points, [/b][/color][/size][size=5][color=blue][b]after an 800-point deficit -- [/b][/color][/size]
[size=5][color=blue][b]dropping below 10,000 for first time in 4 years.:yy17: :yy17: [/b][/color][/size]
[size=5][color=darkgreen][b]The Federal Reserve today announced a new program to help the battered market for short-term business loans. [/b][/color][/size]
[size=5][color=darkgreen][/color][/size]
:yy07: :yy07: :yy07:
[size=5][color=teal][b]Cautious optimism returns to market:yy30: [/b][/color][/size]
[[i] 本帖最後由 Triangel 於 2008-10-7 09:51 PM 編輯 [/i]]