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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% W' Q: e2 \. @
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% K1 [# C) K% x; ^3 l9 L
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 u# T0 A- [* V+ D1 n( q% @% J1 A6 J. j2 y
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?  w$ t' F6 C- {! k1 E5 h$ V& S' K

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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4 t) T( d8 f8 ~& j. C1 X: y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  D7 ~7 m% O( }- `1 G) C

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6 w0 H, m2 J* _3 n打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 |2 Z6 w* }  d  s8 Y. v% Q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 |" w' ~6 C1 ^. Z; k3 E3 P0 e" |
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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2 ^, Q7 W) F1 f- c4 N2 SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 {9 {: W/ q& A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- f3 S1 ~: }! `' h2 r7 z* Q
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......