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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 F- N  ^( u8 A! u
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( h, `+ c4 t, a5 u4 V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ k0 W, h) z. x2 s5 K. Q+ i
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?1 ~3 d/ W0 C/ a3 }' Z( ]

; x; G! v  y: V2 V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 l" L0 }3 n4 c7 O) l$ e# P

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why?
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6 B- K' E. v; _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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  M6 J1 d/ L* o, K. m2 H5 N智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) \2 t7 D- j0 D0 j. _6 t+ T
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 v, o# J% f) p打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 r. r7 c  _9 \9 Y$ T
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  G8 m8 b1 g( n" K1 c& k- F0 N

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他比孔明更偉大

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2 S7 ?7 x* @3 K  N2 {, S8 }$ IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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& p' T* c! g9 V, y/ h0 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) k0 X/ \# b1 z% O  k  {1 g6 x) D

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+ _* `# t+ |4 h  W) ^$ P  }3 @" ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* H- N, q& K: Z7 k! |4 b* L

1 a) T2 e: K5 |yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......