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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 T) @2 a( w- ^* J2 d
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- v/ H  `7 X! |* p
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?  h2 p& A8 e8 T3 o- j* D/ c

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see #22 Thus; X6 u) `7 |: d, L: n9 c) v1 @" z
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 Z* `' S% J% V, }: Y9 b
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% K" P* c; ^3 o7 W% }5 Z# A+ r

/ k- i( @1 ?3 ?3 ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* V* S$ F8 f( n, g  G: iIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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  ~: T8 h0 q( l5 Z+ _  {他比孔明更偉大

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8 o# B8 D+ x0 b6 v. V; YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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7 Y4 ?- {2 c' Z: o  B) yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; d5 J5 l; [1 q4 }% E! j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 B2 U; p1 k: i+ Q( g2 j. Q6 |

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% V4 C' B& ~7 k& m9 z' m+ f2 u

8 \0 U, Q* z) l5 v, myes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......