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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  U- `8 y& K5 x& ^) s

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 [0 `; H* n7 [6 S1 T1 A' T
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: R& R; t9 O! k3 G# p6 u* B

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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$ J+ u4 U- k/ q# `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?9 o, W3 V" g8 E- D$ [# ?

- H) O, P1 N% g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus- n' b: q" J3 ^9 @" A% M

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維: y/ ?. P9 a0 X8 V

$ R) M. A- F3 m政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details." W: X% T- }8 u7 H4 H

9 b; n- Y3 O( p  {5 I# N7 X打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, x4 R- Q, `3 lIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  ?. i- Y" f6 \" C1 C* G; s

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! M0 `2 p5 r  p% H+ P% a

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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