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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: \# _* U# _* C

% g3 q$ `) G7 d9 ?) ~8 Mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, R  `/ D( j# r! M( G0 O# P, hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ y& C, G9 {0 q

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& Z9 G& P2 T$ v) ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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* {& [2 B- N* Z4 o6 X其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* y% Q+ U9 C* W: P
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! n  `6 C5 K- ?" s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 r/ v7 @6 W, a* B3 @+ u( Z+ |

! p- a" i& J% h" P/ l智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ a" d* S  O+ P' B" |
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 \4 p$ ]( k$ ^4 E. q' j

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$ L+ H( \- |$ \3 F5 m9 g, E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# l9 x2 `8 ?* VIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; s% v( m) h# H: N- l

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 h) p+ F& }8 ]* q8 i( O+ [
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" u3 r' Q5 f2 P! T6 m1 UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 l  j/ m2 u' Y6 {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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* o/ e6 S6 y/ Q4 h. z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......