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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 N9 P# y. b1 N) [
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) k7 H: @% g- [9 l
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:5 c- K0 D4 g0 D$ N) M, A

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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$ |. n, \9 Z2 Q/ q5 f4 Fsee #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維3 l, W# H' ^) x$ Y3 k7 ^5 n

: M+ Y+ t5 @4 s0 r) Z) s政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 B0 h6 k- B6 t* n

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* J4 k% [  C1 H9 R; p/ N
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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' d7 I/ r: n( p他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 s8 n/ s* g4 d5 z! c. e" g

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 n3 `" U1 o' k2 T: V

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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8 U$ b' h/ \9 B! v6 _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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