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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

  {+ K0 c/ L& t4 s4 B! vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 L8 {  R6 l3 {: fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; _) X. t" x5 v" r6 p3 x1 ?9 t
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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5 m: X, H8 d$ X  v5 T- [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 i0 Q- f+ m- g( ?see #22 Thus  X/ ~, O; v* B, V

# r  }, ~! A* C$ k) a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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" g. x1 n& |% t; x軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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5 X+ v( {# [8 K4 Y% X打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 e' ?$ n! A, q- ^8 C! h

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ U" d$ c4 W2 U1 O3 \" E/ x
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' X& s  i9 t1 X  x$ F2 C9 ^( U1 F
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他比孔明更偉大

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; p. R+ d) I- U7 _) y' A9 bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" y. ~, R* X) p他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& X/ t( y! S0 e; b+ u
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......