jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
( X0 H* g- p8 E2 b7 i% _仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架8 n/ [- |* D; U& [& x" i. [. t1 x" v
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: `+ _7 `1 I8 wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: C) `1 y) F' n1 ]3 U7 P5 p! f
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( r# I; _. p+ G8 [( ^2 w" a; e9 uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment- w* M0 D  Z5 X% y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 T+ G# M! L2 P/ B! Z% Q6 i# u& dbut why jesus need to do this?
2 j# e% t8 m0 J* ]punsihment for what???" D9 N* z* I8 v( ]9 P+ o( V, @4 C
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 c  z; v. Q' q/ R% F9 S, a3 X1 }
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 {2 u7 S; X/ |, x6 U( cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / v# S' r5 c6 l$ S( Z- }" M
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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" y9 h& t! W& }0 M( D咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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4 y7 \4 t8 w7 k6 n' V+ Z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排3 R+ W+ @0 M# d

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 l: j. R" y; r3 v5 T/ F2 W* ~3 h& `
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 i. O4 ?* o5 j/ n* e/ s1 a$ u' C
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 V# {5 U: _" F. R
why this happen? just simple........punishment
* k5 y* d% ^4 o; cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 L# M' A3 \) Y$ f" c, W
but why jesus need to do this?
2 |; L) E. C* B0 Upunsihment for what???+ G* m# O& p4 T- c
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ q& P' i# x/ S( ^9 @" Z7 i7 `try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; y9 x) l+ v+ j$ S. `; d
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . g, W9 f! [' N. H2 z, P+ \8 n7 C
what will u do???  l; Q$ A7 c2 M. I7 u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 }) f. I/ L, q! k' m

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# i. X# ~/ K" ?* m( Usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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7 K( A& O: `' w. Y4 N9 z. M& }bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; }" D+ g2 j- D' e( l* z
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
- Z3 T5 I+ X# K* L5 l" ]honestly, if there is jesus
3 F. n. W) f- {4 |0 v& ?he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 F: z4 [) j: x; x% e/ c4 cwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 }7 V. T5 ^" s3 q! w
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:' Q2 h) L0 t, g- i
bro singgeihot and rest365days
: p* S$ r. {: [# E+ Shonestly, if there is jesus
: I# w, a9 w" ]* K, W( ?: d) v1 q# jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 I/ g: G$ K. s$ @; q' Ewe can't blow him :cool:

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. [( X! y0 F9 o+ `6 U( |1 t1 Bunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
, k5 i! n3 C4 F5 n6 c9 F2 c自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: