jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:  W. t: t$ Q, v  o4 h
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ x* L# x' \. X# K% c
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* V6 h2 G8 `7 k) o/ H2 p
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 h: n7 M  u" U0 O/ E4 W5 M  B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / S' d: v3 L; E3 W' _: a) W
but why jesus need to do this?
2 X' W5 g# ?' m5 m( J; cpunsihment for what???
# O9 j& r3 r' r  [9 ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. a) }" X2 W) F+ ^3 Stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( q- e5 ~, i- C5 T$ K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 p' H* j) I: F" o. M: y- Z
what will u do???
7 j# j9 O' p3 w/ {! J* J! Fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:) E' _) H/ f4 X; b' W5 T# F7 ^& w
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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5 J. ?- c, y/ l2 H: b4 [咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# r2 T: T* v2 B2 E. h7 d( {+ Gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ C+ H3 i; a$ N4 L# t( [; Z8 scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' ?& _, \8 C3 h
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ j3 J, E$ |: l! _% Y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: [6 a3 k8 t& X! \! T1 ]% abut why jesus need to do this?
; s) \5 y8 s" x0 Cpunsihment for what???
" a6 A) H: |/ P$ O  h( W: Mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& u% p" {$ b1 V& G' f2 j. ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" A6 M7 y1 K9 [! Q. H5 w3 m( I0 G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ \/ b7 {4 s. N/ U4 k$ e  @' ^what will u do???7 _* p/ p$ r+ n) j# k! t
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 W! m+ K* P3 f2 L( C5 K$ l9 _

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7 \$ i4 K* D) m/ D3 r0 [* Isorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' A3 K# u! I7 v9 g0 }! F
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 l& W9 S+ D0 z

" d9 A1 k2 \# V! ]/ a議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
. h, O) P3 `3 ahonestly, if there is jesus+ {7 D" F% d5 Y' L- F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" W) C& e" K, V- A  x9 d* Awe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:+ S2 B- d! R- w% v) f1 p
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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6 T/ o2 k. P, X& dyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life' Z/ d* i+ K* @$ @: y, `
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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: K' q( Y& H4 Q  e. \now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:' h3 M$ z! H6 a# N* r8 T$ k6 \0 a
bro singgeihot and rest365days  m+ T: o- h* x% {; f( u
honestly, if there is jesus' U1 v! O8 h. q$ I& J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: L, l- ~+ {" l% @3 [
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics! ~- f- E0 y; ~9 O' K- f% f& U
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:* H# I& s$ C, O
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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0 `; o7 j# b( [1 N1 lhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: