jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- P1 s9 [/ n: Ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 U, x& s, V. ?, T' g
why this happen? just simple........punishment
. i8 l" A+ K& U1 U0 ~many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & w" r4 D8 L. G) c, l  j2 E- ?* S' t
but why jesus need to do this?1 T  ~* d+ Q9 Y: }8 S6 U
punsihment for what???
' ~  c: O+ s& h0 tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  V: K+ H5 ?! ?5 M3 r! n) qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& N: Y6 C. W: i2 V, M- r, ?but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 ^7 ?% l  L% M3 p9 B9 xwhat will u do???
$ f4 X4 Q7 P1 |just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:1 t5 l5 }7 e+ q/ ]$ x2 w. P
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, ]& \0 I5 t& O. gyes, what did u think is what i...

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( f. l9 }& I1 J( U' s4 {咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉, O1 d( I) p+ [

, A! w, @1 w% B+ l; U0 a0 N但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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# w( @. ^; D3 U& T1 D咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: s8 X: {! u9 nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 a( e6 ~( g9 T, B  A! g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  P# M) e6 r" H% c
why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ H4 Z# W. W, L( Gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; P  j. I$ n( K! h7 b& D( zbut why jesus need to do this?  k6 g7 X7 H  m' Z7 \& {. w6 o
punsihment for what???. U+ K# B8 S$ k+ `
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* V( J! n/ ]) x1 C" W/ j0 ~try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 E/ v6 K/ |! p' r9 a; _% vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 v6 {/ ]4 H5 F
what will u do???
" A# w+ P% b  x& \6 o( Mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, % w9 S2 S  w, o

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+ T0 B9 d* F0 e+ ]; Bsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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* R* J% Y. o4 {0 v' W6 z( jbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 4 S2 Z2 m8 a, Z) h

: l- v2 R8 b9 K7 c議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ \/ S' B( ^4 e  ]+ nhonestly, if there is jesus
5 `8 A5 h% i( z% S- _: o  x  she really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( _  r4 T; }7 Z, b
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:& a4 C# _" s; d: H, h

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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+ z; i3 z( \# `yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 A- O# {* N7 b: d
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! [, _4 w# ~8 y8 z& Aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
" c: u1 ^% ~# ?now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
9 n: `: [2 u7 R/ _' Ibro singgeihot and rest365days5 `: {  c: ~" R4 F$ w9 N5 Q
honestly, if there is jesus6 Z+ e- w' d1 g2 C3 v3 m- t/ J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( X# O0 R( `% v+ T2 T) K% l( G& J  K
we can't blow him :cool:

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3 J& W6 o4 `6 k. z: F6 g+ Y, kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
1 O# ~1 O  E" `  eotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
3 V- H0 T$ G. j$ K6 S, h, W自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: