jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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6 T; g! M4 y$ s+ W; Jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, ~. c# @8 x7 x) R0 lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ ]' n) n; M" I. _9 `why this happen? just simple........punishment. i' D3 Y, I% Z& M' d4 j
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 u7 q- F  l7 B* X3 q$ mbut why jesus need to do this?8 B' S  t' ?6 F. k0 d
punsihment for what???% V# n7 H( |; C5 _% v5 f3 F
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! c2 C, Z% t" l$ ?! r6 ]: N, ~try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
* y( C0 {2 w( p; Ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 k# n; u) r# e2 q/ h8 q
what will u do???7 }3 n2 ?; W3 c) Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; t, ]* v1 z! A) v5 @( A3 I

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 D; P; O) h8 ]  C9 H

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0 j7 ^* z5 d; J5 d2 ]0 J咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 c2 ]* e- S# _. d6 ^) v% l
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. x5 l# c' V5 n' f% v5 h9 v) Zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 Q  _4 W9 R) N- A  _) d1 T
why this happen? just simple........punishment
/ z  J1 M* r/ E, |) imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 E8 B. Q7 ~( C; P0 Gbut why jesus need to do this?
+ e* a  q. x# X  Cpunsihment for what???
& m6 \- o5 r! Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. y2 H- R* `% g! K8 U$ S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 U# l* Q. M" m. w, e+ ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
; V' Z4 d' m# ?$ U! V, Q$ |" uwhat will u do???$ o9 m) v+ N, i! D$ l
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 \- C7 N- a( |; o. y

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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" d, n2 j/ T6 b# c& Q$ b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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: D/ y! _+ x: S5 Z3 E' o議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days) l* M  H; S3 [4 j1 \
honestly, if there is jesus* E1 M' F2 N4 z1 p
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 s; `  s$ t; iwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' \% P7 L; ]; x! W* ^

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( P( h0 }/ g* U0 n  P& X* J$ p
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ M3 i6 ?$ u: \  L* Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 w( b, R4 A. g# ^3 E
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! c! G( g3 q7 S, P" j  T5 \bro singgeihot and rest365days/ N' a- _5 v. R) K9 B
honestly, if there is jesus" w' c. y0 L: G1 o  }/ n7 t
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  e1 }) N9 J& V8 Awe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
: n+ a" I/ f* m  K0 B: c自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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8 G9 Q, _, A$ e$ j1 o. K5 \" h* Jhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: