jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:  n8 O7 z$ w8 c, W$ Z
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 x4 ?; C* B9 h' j4 G5 j! ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ u/ L' V& f6 G' ~why this happen? just simple........punishment# D" p! l# {8 ]6 T
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - |! c- q8 }+ ~: f! H. U, x& l- R2 O
but why jesus need to do this?
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, O: Z* }. n: V7 U" m5 r6 J1 x1 |for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 M) J: f# D7 {5 p. W
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 ^) T6 Y, b/ w7 _* R
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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0 T8 K4 Y0 a6 C, ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ d4 D4 ?% J$ a; t" x) S. |

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉* z" P3 T3 V0 b0 t8 s/ a( B

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 m9 l5 _1 _; f* C5 K
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 E. a( `: d7 Y4 t2 X$ r$ ~& |comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( `/ E- k5 L! d0 p2 [& Y- D( h2 F- W
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, Z1 O% a1 n  ^% O- f* |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 a# x" P( U2 _$ W4 |3 z. Y1 g: B0 G
but why jesus need to do this?
% _/ Y( z( o5 P1 f4 hpunsihment for what???% z! A. K3 e% I4 G% ?0 j, q; Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ S9 q4 ^! ~3 f" K, \; ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
  C  d9 A9 E: A, gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! B0 M& s9 R1 S! i' f6 wwhat will u do???
6 U& N" u6 Q5 g% Gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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( _3 x7 C  @* H$ k! p: D& Z1 \sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" \8 D& P; R! q

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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: g! u( T& e, c好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 * L) R& d/ Y( B8 N  m7 {
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ U9 }1 f8 i7 [# v( v. p8 ?# E% J
honestly, if there is jesus% v4 X" N- g. F3 m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 o' i+ U* H" \& O% n( Owe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
6 W( ]( Y0 x& f) J! {7 G  K1 hjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# Z8 E; l* g) Q' K$ A8 \- }
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  J1 l! p# T) _: ~
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus- y/ v  F% X. q- e) `  K0 Y9 U4 r
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" I: r: e/ v- }( \6 {" `: w/ nwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics! W/ G) l7 J  @+ Z1 [( _7 ^. \- O
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
+ W- L9 x6 p3 h* d9 C( j4 i5 M自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: