jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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5 y& q8 b3 N0 h" Q( Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* G4 d2 R8 [  f( g' {, M1 s2 @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- _& w3 ^0 H( V# x/ U
why this happen? just simple........punishment
" ^- X# u. O/ Y/ @5 amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 p# J" g/ {9 ^3 ^8 o( A; I
but why jesus need to do this?9 |* [+ b9 {4 o& X& [. ~: o( Q
punsihment for what???" ?4 h3 V& {! E& S
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" O  i1 o1 [2 `$ N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" `$ D2 r9 F2 \8 s* M
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 O5 k: n  f4 m7 O1 `2 N9 e
what will u do???7 i( c5 O/ [  M) T( J1 }- ^& x
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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, w0 J, m/ O% t' D' N) y咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 _6 ]8 v# }9 \- ]0 C

1 J2 @0 M) s+ x$ m( [0 o7 Z- [1 f0 _+ J但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" o& N3 K/ R" ?* s3 L- c
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ Y/ D$ j3 [' T# n1 D
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 D9 X* T8 V  t2 D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. A/ N  n, g# q* y7 r% W5 Z/ B
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& Z! ~- c' T6 A" k6 {2 pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 U9 A7 \+ C1 I. x* M$ Lbut why jesus need to do this?! J! b4 a% C7 \7 m$ b
punsihment for what???- D( w4 G! a5 ~: Y7 `- y7 T9 q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' h9 V/ s2 I: o! K4 N* Dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 Q+ P1 X) l& R2 C$ Z- V5 s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / \, P+ J# X- W. S$ S0 C
what will u do???) a, e. }) k# d0 y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" Z5 r% }/ ]: F! p9 M1 J3 B+ u, k
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  R# ?( A" T1 k2 S0 _/ i- m' Q4 X" Gbro, did u know that there is a...

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3 T6 D% k% S; I* t- l. [好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . [5 q- a) U  q: [& O

  H& L- u( O8 m7 A7 O* E議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 M9 r0 o( U2 M) W& O1 a. H1 h  Ohonestly, if there is jesus
, v- Z0 l  _& U) e2 h/ Uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, J4 u* x* M* R  ^; {% K$ m4 n
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:1 C7 W1 p# n0 e. P% r. A
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
. ?0 Y1 x: p# P* [; w+ R; _0 Cjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! x- f8 J  }; k* s$ T% ~so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......5 `" u9 m9 T; Z( n2 H3 `  Y( u
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 ]1 ^3 w! W! @! \9 z) d* Q
bro singgeihot and rest365days& _5 L$ D/ I8 I2 r) v" [! \9 j
honestly, if there is jesus
  ~: F% X: u2 v& r0 C' a( e; m  ]he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 ]" H  x" f' r  O# U2 a
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics  ^3 r8 b# _6 J0 a* E. |! z4 ^
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:. j' K* J/ k% `: d! t
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: