jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:+ G6 C# s& U, [# V
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 S3 S0 L0 [5 J/ b" {' L+ v/ ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% b3 n8 e3 F, t8 j. |why this happen? just simple........punishment! u; C! e, I0 u& h: u' j
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   e! C. u8 B3 m3 T/ c
but why jesus need to do this?5 g: f4 }/ E  |8 ~
punsihment for what???* {: }7 {) l7 P5 N7 y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 d( J" [. P" P3 {1 x; S( b
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, y: {& M# ^' }) K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 @3 }2 E9 N) M! j4 i
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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! L6 g, P- n4 @4 A咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 O$ o, U% c# I; l  v4 l( F5 l: H
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 F: s: g9 j' q5 }' _$ l6 j" Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 m$ U  n* \  c9 q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: T1 h9 G' ?. m; Y9 Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
1 {0 K7 P$ o, I# T9 Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 T* z$ n! l' Y; V& S6 k/ dbut why jesus need to do this?; _3 x/ m# E, I
punsihment for what???# X7 r! i5 I7 \5 M. }" b+ w: M" N7 H
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% _3 I1 S  a* ?2 t
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. u3 V( h  [- h* a# h
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: j" N% C& ]& E$ owhat will u do???
  E( W3 d6 s. rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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. N8 c, [# b* H+ C8 t議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 ?, l  O- S0 @6 }
honestly, if there is jesus: ~# r9 Q; H# }. w& G( @
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* f# ]% V  v) y/ i. p0 }9 n3 O, G
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life: L( M# g0 _$ R# S+ \, o9 }
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:8 r, ]& z2 g& K
bro singgeihot and rest365days
. K5 v* I" T/ k8 ]. L( r- Mhonestly, if there is jesus
" A" R: ]0 h+ o& xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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) S: z: T4 Y" b/ \understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics) p% x2 K5 Y; V  m
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:; v8 o2 Q* M1 K. ?0 B
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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2 i& q6 j2 ?' [haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: