jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
: Y( M: o& m5 F; U' O, J# I. Z8 [仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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, M  x( G7 T, V# f  Ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 O. R. e" z# D8 _, \  p3 Y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ U  L" Q1 K# `9 ~7 p# Y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& \& r( i4 S: _  X7 rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' [1 P. O, \4 \" B" v7 i, w
but why jesus need to do this?
( l8 ?+ x3 F/ K9 f: L' F4 y1 ]punsihment for what???9 o8 e- t0 O+ r6 j
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 `, X1 h5 H( @  L* f( ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 ~* E: N) ^1 B4 l
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 s1 U5 X8 p0 g
what will u do???
2 e5 d/ ]. Y2 a; P0 L7 sjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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9 \" H+ S; s# s$ Kyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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  h. n& y8 @  _; Z! A- L但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% w; A( h# m2 s* s+ }0 y

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 i4 G" C0 T9 y6 c/ X& _
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' w7 `: l7 A- J) U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  n. m, {1 b: E) P; @
why this happen? just simple........punishment& w5 E9 K! c# l% q. [1 a
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, c; b6 l2 w: W7 f3 M0 ^( Z' Xbut why jesus need to do this?3 i' D; x" F* a: G# k9 F6 F
punsihment for what???
  L# g9 d# ~' C" @for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! i! K" v" A! y, J- R; t, O
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! A: v/ n% j2 @" }9 n& `
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" \5 V( m3 {* Y; d. S: B$ Fwhat will u do???3 n& T: n7 @8 p& F: t* ^4 Z! D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 3 H8 \& _# W; }0 w* }! o

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. M1 t% Z% m9 p8 S# X

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 & N, J2 M9 e0 R& s8 y" ~9 K
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, Z; G" }* C9 L6 X( h5 N: thonestly, if there is jesus
0 y6 i6 u4 X5 _0 c6 |. A. j& q+ vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ _. T' Q+ U9 j& awe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
8 m% d8 H2 `* E1 {just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 U7 B8 I* V7 ?3 ~so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 S. [% R- ?- l4 s
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 L$ k! k1 b" V2 o7 I8 n6 n7 m
bro singgeihot and rest365days
; w  H# k  p" V& S& X$ Z2 yhonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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/ Y3 m! O) `- T+ A* w1 d# c/ Sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics5 |# @$ @0 b& J9 r5 c  G0 P
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
2 a! K' @) \* I& ?1 W7 ?自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: