jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:( G- e3 M+ b/ B: k% O. h
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架' t; d" N% Q* [7 O. H/ d6 K- u
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, M8 X" u+ m( ]) v
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ x2 v, M% O* Vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment$ n9 y# p& }+ Z0 v6 h# B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 H8 }/ n7 a% ]6 A- Ibut why jesus need to do this?4 x5 t# j' X" Q9 x3 ^
punsihment for what???) l2 X# F: e# {$ d+ A. `. g
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 ~7 Z3 r$ A, ]try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 K9 c$ ^( {0 f: p
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) \; u2 k, p. \/ C& l7 {
what will u do???' N/ R1 q* b; B& F5 J8 V% g* u/ s
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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3 c, ^- U+ I4 d5 |$ K' \# R8 a) dyes, what did u think is what i...

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, @2 ^2 B* a/ k& q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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. u  E" X; B" D6 l( Y但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排. Z! W$ `% S& r+ l9 E5 K: m! i* }

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 z9 g: d/ I& j( {# M
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ |$ p$ K! V# A+ {- q% |0 ]+ _, Ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- I4 x+ }& J6 iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment$ E( T2 L, \9 a  ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* s, A9 N& h) `: n$ y8 I) f% wbut why jesus need to do this?
+ p3 r$ I& O0 n3 M! D) l7 tpunsihment for what???
" N7 T9 ]* K" rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 D0 {" b- c& X# d) q0 e. Htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& r& R1 g- I# @5 u! ~; F1 \but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . ~8 @+ Q' f- L! B) b3 R4 G
what will u do???
9 V/ s  I$ O' w3 Ojust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! g8 g( s7 r" j5 R3 h0 |! j
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 P7 E0 o9 s* c; [. ]

" F; c  f& Z4 r2 O, V0 @議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
' [1 X, o4 t4 Shonestly, if there is jesus
! Y4 w4 y4 ~5 z6 qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) U7 R6 u# D) Iwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ f- [! S" ~0 \; g
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  U+ \1 L& g6 p2 A9 _好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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% e% b/ i6 y9 p6 e" ~5 eyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
* l- k" u1 q% E$ S" c( ijust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( g% y- W) `. k5 \) A. S
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
, ?4 p9 o3 M: X6 {% R% g+ ]0 Y: e4 Pnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
4 p2 `4 r* R# uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 F3 M9 r! i; T' K: [3 ^( l, [6 c$ s2 |* S
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 i# {* G' U6 I* z& M" j) r
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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3 ^, y& o. e% c' w0 p& n+ d, yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: