jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# Q6 L2 A! Y! u+ f' D) j
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: R1 H. z: f; c; |& Acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  K  n" [* |: h( N) f% z+ P/ xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
  \6 r1 c7 T9 D: e5 g- gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 y; B  l1 x$ X' x' _
but why jesus need to do this?
/ D' l( \1 h9 z2 _# M5 Apunsihment for what???
2 i7 w7 x/ x' A8 Ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: t+ V' i3 ^' m5 P: d( ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! C7 |; u% L6 E, K; ~! ^6 a$ Pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! d9 k8 g8 r$ A
what will u do???
/ D* F& e! U& [just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% y. N$ d4 n, ~: }" r

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  a0 X8 U4 X1 C/ `yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 ~8 f! v# r3 j
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 Z5 m1 r1 S: h+ ^) P9 e9 [

  e; `5 ~0 M$ Z% ]7 n) I' H咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; u- _! y" S5 W  o7 Wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( t1 ?$ S8 T% w' kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 y' X  M  U4 D+ x7 D( d- c
why this happen? just simple........punishment2 d7 ]/ P0 k* W4 r1 i$ l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 e* c( G- S) Q9 m8 F
but why jesus need to do this?
$ R/ j/ {$ z0 f/ ]punsihment for what???" j  A& h6 t' Y( V5 ~5 q+ n* b
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- B5 b. U  v- A: z+ U  R! Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
* e3 O7 K3 l" Wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 Q& ~, `4 n) O5 w5 N
what will u do???& O! {' Y: ]6 c; ?' i, V4 n1 D* I
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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' t4 u) Q, v: N' h8 k0 Ssorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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8 W5 |0 t# _# R+ O, b" I好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 2 {# ^9 I5 b- l+ N

# A9 J9 j9 V  L% \議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 W& N! w0 R* \2 r+ khonestly, if there is jesus
0 W. C0 B( ^; L1 i  h+ P: Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! r: Z( i5 D) R4 S& Kwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 q- o! D9 s) n3 G5 i1 z3 W
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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5 ?" T2 X) t$ @2 h: K! |* yyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life6 N0 ~5 Z  R4 ~9 W" G
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ j+ N/ D' O0 {
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 q( U3 z6 V# i% y* b/ Bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:- [2 ?# v% O) Q' }
bro singgeihot and rest365days, b2 |0 H# {0 a# m3 a
honestly, if there is jesus
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: M/ K9 C" p8 ]8 f* Y5 J. i2 pwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics/ Q  X" @6 Z; b
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:' E. n& Z0 M' d4 [- b% }
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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1 c- ~, V9 w! h3 g1 c2 e, Ihaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: