jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# ~# ?" C# f7 r, B+ ?8 V2 v
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% b$ E. g; P3 n! `9 W! E- t+ W
...

: K) W1 J+ U  z6 R
) t1 t% D( x0 w8 a9 g8 V& ?/ tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) R( E& v+ z0 s7 G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. L% g7 O7 t& d' b7 s
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 w# E& t2 ^  o% V' D4 Q8 w: W" u
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + d2 Y4 _8 R+ P
but why jesus need to do this?: Y. G  g' @6 d, z
punsihment for what???
% g/ }! q4 I" e4 P4 Cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) ^) o  Q  J% \* M& i) ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ f( N5 K+ T5 z" `/ G* @9 A2 B& g. r) P. Vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   d+ [  X. ~. _" ^) s/ n9 C) P; k% J
what will u do???
- o" u: {6 j) E& P/ }7 j/ @just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 q) ]; d$ c1 g" [0 _; O6 _( {9 q

0 A" V  z) b% F  @& J) N7 x
/ _  }* l# t: W* M( m4 Lyes, what did u think is what i...

& u" i2 q& H+ D0 }& t7 i) ~& O
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
, ]/ t( c/ \. M# G! I) l5 h: x
, Q4 v& M3 V! P8 O6 ^% \2 @+ t7 o但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 Y/ ^2 n! L' K/ t0 ~

. j' s6 E( H1 F# p2 U5 D咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ S) I1 B1 v8 @0 A' I+ `
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* U# N; ^& _' Q6 E, Fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 y* P8 A- _* ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment( I. ~& p- L- H
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ u: e( e, S! ^but why jesus need to do this?! S! J  r  G$ V, o! f0 a
punsihment for what???
, q7 ?% G0 C" R  qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 b( ^5 r- l) `: C$ S$ R" htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 |3 {4 n% @8 h* z0 `8 {- b
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
) N# U' z0 g0 j% [what will u do???
7 w; U, Y6 u9 K1 Rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
4 L2 o' v2 S7 j6 q

9 g4 Y/ Z  v. i' @' e
% v8 F7 A1 E) H
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( @) ~8 r  n: r% ]; r; {/ w

1 h1 Z& j& [6 |3 U6 C7 B( r3 L2 P( D  I" `. o. w9 g3 f! X
bro, did u know that there is a...

; ]4 e3 J* S$ _9 f

( E9 g" x8 S& e7 y3 c) r; U* O
# H' Y. _  R3 B# M9 \' A( T好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 8 ]" y- {2 l8 n: Q
3 z5 I( k* B, t( x' C
議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
% P# U5 Q) |, [! c" d" S* chonestly, if there is jesus
- D: B% q% y6 Phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" w  ?/ H: V' ~* X3 B
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:/ O/ {+ ~7 v# n. r" f1 K2 [1 U% P

. A) o9 Z( i$ z+ U" @' t6 m# c$ V% x, n- L# q

& E6 P: o8 F  c# F: |8 `! `# e好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

9 d/ C/ F% |/ K: m( w; S! t% F  n
yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life6 L- n5 f' e8 W4 L! f  g
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
/ y% {! d, u* r; S$ k3 l1 E: Uso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
0 l# {$ S1 \, s8 ~  d0 X* ^; O5 znow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
- M- Y  W/ t7 |7 z  T7 tbro singgeihot and rest365days
$ v% {9 Q. I, ?1 Q- W1 k* x3 [honestly, if there is jesus
* f( v$ V/ K5 `$ V3 Z/ z, @& _. mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 K0 [) h; q: w1 L. d* ~/ V
we can't blow him :cool:

) f: j" c% P7 c3 A$ E' L) [# b" U& h4 R, T9 v9 q: K: j  [
understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( B* w& o! w. n3 `5 B* s3 f3 P
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
) x2 A: \5 N7 {自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

5 b  t5 x! I+ t* g7 L6 r$ R2 K
/ a# E! m3 x) S8 {haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: