jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( X9 E0 M' k2 G% W; y) s
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 w  ^/ r' k2 j. kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
, w" r# P3 N2 f+ e: N/ ?- {- lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 N; U/ o/ P7 X0 Dbut why jesus need to do this?6 ~3 Z0 }! E) q# j# I/ s
punsihment for what???
6 l' F0 F6 s5 L; H1 o" lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 l6 k7 z- A: |# i6 O( I: u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- {7 a$ x3 R9 e/ C# cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   `' y" j, S; t9 y
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 _) {4 p8 a4 T2 p1 ?+ t, T
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( |. y0 j: Y6 c( V
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 [( \$ j( C* t8 F" D1 S
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# ^+ c: J! X+ p  p# w* x2 F& K( R
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" {: E: N% j8 O; `' T& \, R
why this happen? just simple........punishment
/ u- |8 v* a4 M. O8 z) Q+ s1 pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, v& L' V" G3 T' B0 A) X. dbut why jesus need to do this?
; i, f7 |# r* Y4 N: Q- G0 B% xpunsihment for what???
5 a0 Z0 m; U; w+ mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 N: i9 r4 s# v8 ]
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# L' a3 J- `. a7 o6 D+ o0 t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 p0 f: e+ g! H5 q8 |" p
what will u do???
: c- m4 d7 x* U, l0 pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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  T) ^4 b; n/ V8 X/ lsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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$ T% W3 z! v2 X3 O6 i好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 * ?5 T- b5 s! [* F) G

8 X" ^& m) f+ Z5 r0 {# R議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
- F1 p; y/ o- I, G) J8 ^honestly, if there is jesus
$ r3 ^% Z6 N/ J( l, r) Qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& ]3 F4 i4 f7 Z3 A0 l, O( A! T
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:- J3 t8 ]4 y  m/ d1 ?8 V7 C

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
6 ], x2 u+ k1 k# ^! W+ H/ Vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 [$ v3 `$ h, Z$ V+ {- ~" Iso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# |" ~: d1 y5 e$ J' _/ \' a( W2 i# Know, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
" e" E/ ]$ {' g% v2 Q# pbro singgeihot and rest365days* N! ?4 i" O. F* ~
honestly, if there is jesus
- V% }; s  M7 Ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 E" ?  `; ]' H2 I% |9 e$ Bwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
+ m$ K/ Q, c9 z- J9 l7 Z) H3 f/ Xotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: A+ S. P* w9 Q. k1 v4 z
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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8 T3 N; N& `6 O# vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: