jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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7 X- Y. p6 f; I+ J7 b- ^' p6 Bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ i$ u8 B: c2 i" o% W2 A# I
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 M* k  g' w2 D; I  L1 U) f; `8 hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
7 j) G, g, H" \1 jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - N  o" r4 ~0 v) z: O" d
but why jesus need to do this?
: i7 Z: Y- F* C* i6 Qpunsihment for what???+ y7 u; @/ }: D4 {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 [8 _$ v% _: p- r1 M  {- g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. {+ i$ u- g: w* Q, m" J/ n* |
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:# ?2 L, z6 Q& Y
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& _5 s( ?6 t+ E+ ^

8 B9 |; x. D9 W0 v但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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+ d& M2 n* i! I, m' H咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" f) u* ^3 x5 o
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# \$ K. x/ ]2 i4 @' R" C; ]
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& X8 p" T, r* C9 w+ i4 }! A& w2 _
why this happen? just simple........punishment; d+ _% u* w8 `3 V* C0 t+ ]# z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ |+ w  k: u* P( v  A% o  T; rbut why jesus need to do this?; W8 X4 c+ V( f! ~3 s( G. k
punsihment for what???
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0 Y; _2 B  p) [, H3 Vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 S; E, o) }3 g$ hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ }4 E8 P, z0 s# @; G9 R
what will u do???" |# \1 x6 ]  @9 P3 r2 D9 r4 J6 }
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; v( C0 m# I3 P

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" i3 E5 G0 {, S4 S- ubro, did u know that there is a...

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. {9 B; J. k# x1 y& [8 i; @7 E好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 E2 l3 n* y2 L. A+ r: `4 T
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 T1 m8 {. c" E, J% a, n8 E
honestly, if there is jesus3 E- ?  y9 g, e# j
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
; p" I5 n2 y4 S* p( \5 U: R0 fwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life3 F2 T. Q  ^: l+ N$ x
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
/ O, V- m/ L: O6 qso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......2 Z" N: \5 g- G3 \9 X4 o8 ]
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:9 M: \1 `8 D; O% p! A" |. t5 A- {
bro singgeihot and rest365days: z' I1 t- I6 f+ c
honestly, if there is jesus
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' X7 y5 p" J4 o/ w8 g. n; Z4 y4 Runderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
9 b5 O9 n+ F$ T* g7 I# E/ @8 ?( o& Rotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:+ c+ k9 ^+ z- _8 n" [" O
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: