jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:% L; k% }, c3 ?9 r$ N
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架, r- ?  ~9 X/ `4 O5 ^
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9 U2 `; T# H* P2 u' [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 D$ u* w- E* ]; }$ M( j
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: J9 Q" q& e2 ]9 q1 @9 j* s7 \) qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment- k& Y4 f2 e' K' K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  i, k9 g+ X6 r. d9 A9 d6 i2 vbut why jesus need to do this?
, _; ?) R1 e6 m0 Ypunsihment for what???
. I: j- @0 ?9 n: O7 X9 P1 bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 j; [& i) ~5 W+ f" c  etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! q) v9 u' [5 z; G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 c0 p# P; f; R, ^, a
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" k# C4 \# y% S: s/ Q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉5 I9 O7 w7 i  _

  C3 I( T: N4 y4 y6 M" C2 i但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排; a! L5 P( w4 V" J& G2 F

' s+ U& z/ L% U$ Y5 j# O. L咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# w6 `7 D8 h5 e& m3 ]4 z( q  Wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& o0 ]" `4 N) F! c
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; B7 b: R3 ]4 }! \why this happen? just simple........punishment# J- l8 o' o" i% ^& z% V0 B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# I( ^! w  t- T3 \# Obut why jesus need to do this?
' x. J& [; E, Q+ J: hpunsihment for what???
) L$ W: M6 V" B2 Mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 L& c( r; ~$ l- \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. }0 \$ a( ^9 C" E) V1 w
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) J3 N! s8 J4 p4 C$ V9 P8 p* _
what will u do???; D. s; o; N+ L( l+ m6 \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, - `  W' x) B% y' t- a% M

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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2 R- n. f4 v9 b# nbro, did u know that there is a...

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2 c$ d8 j# }9 R' ?: L4 T& g好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ' w( M2 k- B( k# W" z( Z1 x4 [' P- o
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
0 i$ |2 \2 V, R' g: P) W4 g) hhonestly, if there is jesus
6 Y, T+ ?) E$ C& G& J2 N9 Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 X+ z' N9 A- P
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, U$ Y- A. u, e0 q4 v
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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6 J, U# S0 R: I7 y1 ]/ O( Oyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ f& k$ F* ~) Q" Wjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
) _" W% X+ @' ~, \3 p6 r5 fso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 F: H# r1 ~7 Xnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# y% `& W! H$ Q0 [bro singgeihot and rest365days
- d6 _, K" j) e, ^7 t* p& p8 }- thonestly, if there is jesus
+ F; B6 K- F) K% A- Ihe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, o  Z; G4 o6 C+ Y2 \& |/ P# k. swe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics, W  B+ N+ ?8 `- u+ X
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:. q- U7 w! z9 T% o/ a! D
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: