jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
3 y: a- |2 N! x1 g: t% A! q仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架3 K; g1 V6 z* |0 {0 b9 y* y
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+ w/ N0 U5 w* N* v& cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; v' H8 S2 a" z7 d/ Y5 L5 icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 x$ v/ Z0 d+ {0 |! l$ [/ A+ k: iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment* r' n0 l" R" t# F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 V& ?2 _, m- N) `! xbut why jesus need to do this?: y/ E+ q4 W# X& S2 T
punsihment for what???
  Z% T6 {1 S6 `, u. Gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- j! b: q& j$ V2 m. W- A' W; m4 etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: G- q4 T* g: E( [+ \$ [: b4 i2 a
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # E# U/ Z- c0 r, z
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  A3 B  m9 S' y( B' a8 E

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7 S, i' p' g1 _, I3 ~* Dyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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$ b" y, v4 G- @$ A; c( {( N# e( O" c1 `8 G但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 q. r2 o2 {0 P1 j
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. Y0 e( I+ d, n, T1 ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( E$ q  _3 S6 k$ g1 hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 Z! x$ [1 \. P! Y5 }
why this happen? just simple........punishment4 K, H7 Y( Y: M6 E! E. w' V: f" ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 h! j) b8 I9 V! F; `/ Obut why jesus need to do this?
1 Z2 P, F1 \/ W; \2 @+ r1 u( F" {punsihment for what???3 I" r- Q6 x8 U4 {, |3 I
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  m5 o# T5 \6 k* a3 w0 `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% Q/ P( k9 A& [; O0 o/ Jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 u% x+ Y2 q( y: \. \
what will u do???7 s, j/ K8 w* w; ]. z- O1 v' k
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + c: B, o; [$ z. v

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) U# c  y1 g' z$ c: O7 M

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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& V+ v2 E* \9 H* S4 \8 U# U7 K好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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/ C# z& S0 L' A, C- ]& U, T議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( ]' X# M) N3 i0 b' r
honestly, if there is jesus
; E7 |" A! k8 l& y. Che really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 O8 ]0 i0 a" E* Q4 ?3 ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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8 x; g& X; k; u6 d9 o( U' o好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life- j3 Z, O$ |: I& k
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ g- O' L  b, Y9 v' `( }6 lso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
* h5 e$ ^! j% h/ qnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: _2 E4 U$ s9 j" A8 p  jbro singgeihot and rest365days# f2 n/ A9 P( E; J, Z3 S
honestly, if there is jesus
2 f' z2 [. F: X7 I( A. M! H/ the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 D. e& t: s& `  v3 |* E+ rwe can't blow him :cool:

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5 U0 i  L& _# ?5 v& q  t) x8 Iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics3 v( R9 R' Q' C8 K# |; \
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:; I# r1 M  V( o7 C
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: