jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 w! C* k7 P8 ]) H
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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, X& a) _5 B# \4 b* R. y; wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( @% z6 V1 p* U9 J+ b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 D2 d6 P" o, p" Q0 G
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: |  n# m/ D* ]! I: i1 V  Vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; G# Z2 c; Z. b' T+ m  ^- [3 Bbut why jesus need to do this?
9 m+ \5 x4 c% F/ {$ ]8 }punsihment for what???( [: D2 I! _7 \9 M$ G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 x0 P9 T# f2 |1 q) W& S+ }try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 q- _  A# M: P3 K# K& p
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 O" j' W3 E+ e8 q. B% V( awhat will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉, b( W' R, M3 @4 |# j
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排, q( B8 |; t. c1 M, M7 A7 w. `

! t, }! e- s$ r咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: [1 N, @5 z' k, |4 j
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ \3 A% z- E9 F3 a; {/ u* N" o' ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 R" z  {# }$ w1 K1 jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment5 z1 K( R2 v0 x0 I% `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ [4 z- A5 g' N) fbut why jesus need to do this?0 D" j2 _8 u7 ?! X+ H( _" j
punsihment for what???, [8 B/ P4 d/ j; U' a! b
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) ~& q9 c& m9 a( G8 F- p& a
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ T/ ~; [9 E3 E& Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 i" x7 ?& e  W& m% B7 L
what will u do???. s9 V* D- n1 ^. t- s, N0 @3 G
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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4 f, e$ A# v  Y+ ~8 v. O5 Psorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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! X& K0 `5 q2 P/ a$ D好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 # I  E- [5 o8 r: `3 Z- l

$ J; t8 v/ }$ [, m0 A$ T) u& q0 F/ k議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
0 r% K: D' G  |0 g- [honestly, if there is jesus
9 T# D9 a4 b9 [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 k+ J+ q: c" B# y: d" h+ A: \
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:9 w& j4 p$ ~- r5 m

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' F& a5 c( G& R+ q2 wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& T( g! N' B$ \  `& T+ Ojust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! H& G% `5 C6 m. R% F" l  t& b0 Dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 p( @' V4 Q- g$ Q' N: B: u$ x! e. G
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 j7 j- J7 ^( B! }bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- R4 ^! t, |' [/ O2 ~
we can't blow him :cool:

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4 f8 N8 Q# \0 W# |' iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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8 v. Q* z! ~! C2 shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: