jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:4 d. J; o& m8 I/ U
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架6 Q# h: B2 ]2 X& a$ J. u" o
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" f! w3 ~: H" scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  ?6 h- z* O+ H% N7 R3 r: pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ R' W/ B$ G' v$ A" J9 omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: \0 g! E, q! W' tbut why jesus need to do this?5 y& _. c! T6 p
punsihment for what???
% F& q" p6 b3 x1 ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 T- c% u0 Z! n' e+ j4 B4 A- ~8 H
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 v/ P1 p6 x2 j6 p1 e
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ M8 [9 _8 B6 {" P+ g
what will u do???
7 n* C7 R# P- b0 H9 A/ u3 v- }just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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- g' Z# w$ C7 V. o咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉2 @0 D/ o! h; w

5 ^1 m, x* [% i$ f8 d但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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* t* E/ A) y3 _9 H! \/ q咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
' U( G2 d- b( Y$ @" l- Q( N1 k. Tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 L: [) ^  o9 k) v8 Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* l9 `% f4 j& }0 z. Y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
. c; p1 ^: {1 @1 M- W% I/ m! Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 b6 |! u' B" Y: L- F; E. ybut why jesus need to do this?( M. e' G5 @: S+ J
punsihment for what???' ]  e6 V  w2 [. |3 L
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 C  H0 |  O  Dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: V. i9 O4 D6 z  Y# N$ O* b! Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' C1 C& w4 T6 _! G% {+ s" j
what will u do???
6 ^% Z/ U% a7 E7 P! B/ T( tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 d/ n4 Q" h9 X2 |

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7 V# N1 z+ S2 k+ {5 a, m: ssorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 R+ M- K/ c* {" t! V2 ~$ ]- o$ |

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) j" A: w- I; ]- ?# Q好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 , t$ I# r6 ^3 a/ Y2 _2 \
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 t9 m" [6 D" d! _) q, }9 \honestly, if there is jesus8 H0 X$ f/ t0 T9 Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& q) V" [/ h" t& i
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:! ~2 ]0 }; O  B+ }! w" B4 M+ p. ?

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ R0 }" ]" p& y7 R! @just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: r+ z! {3 u+ |$ ~( D9 ^
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 U- |& C: j( E6 ^
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 m% H/ |- p& E/ C4 X
bro singgeihot and rest365days5 b$ d+ I! x+ ^$ Z
honestly, if there is jesus
* |/ d7 n. j; f9 Y( \# q; u8 ^he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; O; W0 c2 Z/ I/ @) i/ ~& H' @
we can't blow him :cool:

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% `2 h0 Q' C' V3 Punderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 c. d* U& E# {: e  \otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: