jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 s5 E0 k. B3 k3 i6 P+ H仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架0 m( H$ r$ e* X2 q- f5 E; G
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% z5 ]1 H! |. X9 Xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% [! e" X7 [  c  Y6 a" L5 w. K9 S/ ecomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 Q6 N3 M7 ?4 T* w
why this happen? just simple........punishment
- q* Q  {) w' L8 \many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 w% N+ @8 f4 _. N7 L7 E
but why jesus need to do this?
$ S& L0 H2 V8 E. h9 q* G. c3 j$ ^punsihment for what???
7 ~1 }8 G  y1 Q0 @for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: }% [' ~/ y3 O" G7 r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% h1 P1 I# Y* K" B5 H8 ?but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 ?: |0 u" e# K& i
what will u do???
, w# s3 K- a* ~& N  b/ U; P9 O, o3 `just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 \. c# {- d% y' r3 P
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8 D) K- a3 ?5 j( G+ s" m. F- Ryes, what did u think is what i...

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& F7 H( n6 g* l) D! F8 {0 W咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ d/ r! @( d6 O! m

* V0 n) E! s; L0 P# K( }但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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$ p! {- G+ Y6 |咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
8 i6 c6 b. M! k- vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 ^$ Y/ s1 {$ y9 B" R* ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 B+ ?' h) n# z* r3 d
why this happen? just simple........punishment# R: X& O4 G1 z. q3 L; A/ K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! c, t" `6 A: y+ e! y) x( z
but why jesus need to do this?
0 m; H$ d- L( p) g) I& F' jpunsihment for what???
; \, m- I+ A: P/ ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: [/ v! N5 d) m) O0 _0 H
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 V* j, f' }* Q. j# W/ Tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! b3 R2 K1 L6 r" u8 h8 @  r! zwhat will u do???2 d5 F6 Z" o: r9 j* {
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ ^& ~' [/ P3 ~5 r. J

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' B0 E6 V; x( S8 v2 U8 `2 Esorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* w" O6 `3 i3 s& z/ ~- s4 E
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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2 O. Y* P; N. Q- Y2 L8 X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 * [1 h: w  R# |

7 a1 y. m! G2 T: E2 I- t議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  \+ D7 A* `; W% o
honestly, if there is jesus, p, H% c; b  a
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" q7 f( q, S, z6 x4 U
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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8 q- g3 _5 f% b, O: u$ L好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 |" j& I8 ?" @5 o
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: }4 Z8 p5 E1 F8 i" M9 W
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
* {( |4 T) K3 G1 Gnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:* J/ Y1 i6 A$ N# E6 D
bro singgeihot and rest365days
& O5 H( g( S+ O/ Z) U* F" V0 Xhonestly, if there is jesus+ }8 ~8 X4 v4 _8 d1 k) ~; @4 N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" C, @5 V) h. [( o$ O7 T
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
! e/ [1 l, u6 b$ q0 t/ v) ootherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
0 i$ T' j8 o+ ^8 F( ~自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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# F4 C0 Z  p- \haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: