jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:1 |  D3 t$ D+ e* W6 z3 q, C2 B/ ^
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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1 V% s0 Z1 k/ u) U: ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" e; A# ^" W8 s$ A4 {7 ~( \, U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  s% L! M/ e- d
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, w+ q5 [+ r7 D+ k. C  g* x2 V9 `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ S* f+ I  t9 O! X% d( Zbut why jesus need to do this?( a1 B: e$ s5 K7 }% V1 e& y
punsihment for what???; |6 m- a4 w4 J2 W3 R' ~
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! I! `- h$ h+ P+ ~, f
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' a; F5 w* K9 P. d+ v' \" g3 Q2 Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  O* m/ g- \' tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 [+ Y9 i+ f  z$ C+ k# r# \
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 j8 `( N! I7 X) _: Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment2 [- t7 w8 P1 A& ?* y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # s( H1 F/ p7 Z/ v( G9 P0 v3 G
but why jesus need to do this?
3 ?' d2 J6 I2 L, J0 Fpunsihment for what???$ a# m% \' u' L3 ~
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* j( F; I$ }1 I9 Ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ E( g" K: a* l  a  ^but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % f" b+ C; X( X, t/ l% L7 h6 s& s5 A" y
what will u do???# m! ]* W6 P) H$ b6 @
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, . q9 e  C; |" b9 }! V

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! \1 ~& Z* w' k2 z4 D  D* q7 Dsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 O1 U/ j: g' a1 ]/ F) C
honestly, if there is jesus: `$ y9 p3 t' P. o) f0 {: [2 p
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 h- I  d) [  w2 p
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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) M- o3 Q3 U/ W- eyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- S+ V0 r3 T) m: b6 S6 T& Qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 A5 i+ M/ T) w4 }4 x/ r' E4 Iso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
0 y; ?' x1 Z/ i6 n9 P1 Znow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus/ u( X7 {2 {# E' D/ y9 c8 ?0 z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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4 f; q! y" L. |understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
! M8 H8 b7 f* H. ^自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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