jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* G7 _! h7 |2 b5 Z) A/ H
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架. c- h9 n) M" C; Y+ X3 l8 M) A
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6 n- Z$ w; _& Q& M* F- D+ dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ I  g$ R' Q- O+ z$ a: Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 `$ e+ v8 W5 w( ?why this happen? just simple........punishment. S6 p7 }, M' `( Y$ V0 q2 N# i
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! E6 o& ?( N0 L# }) x! t0 T
but why jesus need to do this?' F; l3 I( [( \$ y
punsihment for what???2 ?. Z& {+ y) D( j/ Z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: n$ L; O6 Y3 L3 z/ `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 z2 f' O) S" c8 H: \4 n, g( e1 w# u/ ^, S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 Q  x+ P' Z; j# C7 _what will u do???
; I, o: T0 c/ N" |0 K1 {$ T7 Cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:! m1 P' f$ A* S$ v' f" N: ?

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( }# T4 t( K2 S7 V2 H& dyes, what did u think is what i...

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3 O" d( D9 ^5 E咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉# |  J! j7 ~& U: e$ H* Z8 m
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% G+ p3 P: z" u/ a6 ?

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ X% |# C( L, N2 b5 z
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: H. B: W; K5 @  `! M
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  U  ?1 j. }' N4 V: D7 d
why this happen? just simple........punishment) a/ G; ~) |. l7 B7 W) F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 U9 ]4 @: T5 `6 D2 _) g
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ `: P: D4 e5 ]6 A; ~try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' M! L4 }, d! v; i7 e
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ T. K3 X3 b0 ^# B4 owhat will u do???& d/ c% e7 i3 s/ K- Z3 g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( v7 o/ A# U5 @  M! W. l
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$ t  J) u, J: P9 R( G5 pbro, did u know that there is a...

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$ G  Y7 k* @2 n$ [! b1 a8 H8 {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 3 x! A& |; t" B
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. Z+ @( g6 z& |/ `: r
honestly, if there is jesus( F4 Y  B) [+ r* ?! B" j) H& G
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# |$ d+ a  y4 Q& u
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* x, n! G! F0 ?4 Y% P! l6 z2 J

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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8 Z) O) }; g/ f( X) m* xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life: f% J' z" x0 r+ b: i9 ?, M( p; t) L6 x
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) c* X3 ^8 ^( m$ L) U! d
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
2 a) W; v" s: G. l: b7 a2 ~now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
8 Q$ a& C. P; o5 Z! _% nbro singgeihot and rest365days
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics! y# I, `  t% s3 [
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:% W$ D2 O: L% P  s$ A# E# N7 `. p
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: