jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 l: z6 v2 m6 s0 t' Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' ^, R8 e3 n6 x$ M, N
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: S5 @% w9 w" W6 S' [! k; Pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 Y2 L) m# u/ T
but why jesus need to do this?$ z. l" |1 e; E) O5 N
punsihment for what???8 Z6 S$ b- }1 u  B  [$ r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; i* X9 S/ l7 H( o9 [- l8 Ltry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( ^5 p7 u" e2 q5 V5 tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : I( c6 [$ X& S$ c
what will u do???) b5 M) ^, R8 M4 Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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1 A& I$ K& I( V" s4 v& K咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉* i, k3 O" f. z" W' l! t% T/ L6 ^" A
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 O1 m/ p+ z' `6 {bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 L) B) l# g) u% i/ O2 L# g, y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ Q) J) ?' _3 ^+ z4 b- u/ rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
6 l3 d) v3 v3 D! U9 hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 L$ n0 g* v9 V9 p5 R  p8 ^% Pbut why jesus need to do this?  E) l0 O$ a0 \) J1 y7 @) M& j: `
punsihment for what???3 ?% E! }4 E3 w/ h
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ Q; f7 W/ m6 e9 S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 D1 E9 n8 \9 u  O# obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + J6 C: |; T$ v8 e
what will u do???0 b3 l7 v: g6 j2 m$ ]7 l5 \3 z( n9 X7 {
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) T5 d8 i  M- c" h" @1 D+ b

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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( f2 J% v; [+ b- l$ s好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 2 H  Z: V" \7 g% ~! n

* ~) j1 v: N) ?議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ v9 v" d# x( O$ {4 Z( [. W, j) k
honestly, if there is jesus
4 a( c3 E& R! Qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 k3 E4 k; h- u5 i1 C
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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2 R, C. [( X4 f5 [* S8 Jyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 h" ]9 W0 |' u) O2 N
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; u4 U8 b1 U# g+ o1 `' k5 `so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......) ]) V; O. ^# v2 a, M: K
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
& m" H7 c  b. |3 I- Ibro singgeihot and rest365days
4 {- g' E/ W) L7 u5 I; H& y, Xhonestly, if there is jesus8 {8 T9 u  N  Y6 Y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  d$ _* Y6 h% }( K9 s0 ^0 F1 U
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
( A) B5 h9 P3 N6 R7 \otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:% k7 r! M, m* B! x9 R
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: