jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 |, D2 N% J; \/ l6 R
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 S9 z; S! A% O' Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment( r% |+ ]; {- S5 ?2 v. @, P5 ?
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 h! ]+ B5 c' E' @+ Bbut why jesus need to do this?
2 `% P7 W" {" G% U# z: `3 Ypunsihment for what???+ _0 [& N$ M4 d) u* E9 V- k
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 N9 ?, E& C1 _' s
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 v: f  j* ~  s% k5 A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' ^! \6 g8 t" N2 H
what will u do???% I  z" ]$ Q; j
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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! j% P* L* E7 w) @. f咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉7 F1 h3 F& H0 `3 r4 W7 _

- ]. l6 p1 G& l( n& Q但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 U) l- B7 H# w& P/ P0 B& l
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 z, R8 b3 `  T8 V
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 R5 i7 A% r: [4 Z3 L0 C* |1 Ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 S1 T- m  u: C6 t# u) N4 ?  O/ I1 k
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& e: P+ O$ V& h. K! [  \but why jesus need to do this?
# J0 Q" d+ t+ D8 b7 H0 ^" h9 B* npunsihment for what???; `2 ]* g3 G& P" q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- N9 l$ |# r" C& ^/ Qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, u* U( r: _5 I1 V) C
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 _! ^3 q, G: I& S7 rwhat will u do???
$ W. T- f! w& q8 W7 Qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 U2 V0 e: C* p

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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. e% s0 k8 |: {: ?5 T好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 # G3 h& ~8 X. G- M; j
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: {; m" k, d* G* _1 @
honestly, if there is jesus
% F* c9 D9 z% k& ~% ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ e; X9 p" o8 o( |& s0 l9 Ywe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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/ k1 M6 h0 V" l5 [0 k3 \yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
* ?8 L) V/ n$ p$ M+ Njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ O( ^) w; V6 @# }' q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
+ d3 Z2 h- D+ Z5 h7 ~bro singgeihot and rest365days& y( t- G3 @9 F4 D% n
honestly, if there is jesus( d: h% Q2 v& B1 O: q5 H9 q1 k
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 z9 @1 s/ _  }& c0 L1 a/ g
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
' c% t* O5 C* q8 H+ sotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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" a% h$ y: G* M5 @" xhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: