jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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* B& h3 X8 d3 W/ Q1 p5 Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# S  F% U' E4 S6 o" Ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 q' s9 D& [0 m0 ]  k5 T/ U- E* O6 Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment# A) Y/ o, u/ x8 F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 {, U& O4 K4 Z6 j  h
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???9 A- P$ B% o2 ^
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 f$ i( H( j8 B* A
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* R. I% b6 G, n# D; p% t7 I, Gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' c2 K! I& {: B# y- H
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 D4 {8 T# U; s' p4 e
why this happen? just simple........punishment
* r& V* \* h4 E6 k& t; J" Y$ S( Tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   Z' n# J/ J0 h* A1 R
but why jesus need to do this?
3 ]6 v1 q2 u& Ipunsihment for what???, e# U; K) P* @4 _
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* b, v- ]2 U' `) T
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 ]1 Y0 m  P' K0 X4 Gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 W1 F. l/ q: @/ K; F/ z
what will u do???* I/ O7 f* X% o! j# a/ A6 P/ G: a
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / ]" @: T" G  u7 p  P7 [

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 V* {2 e2 Y' b4 H# c
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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  X0 r" y/ `4 @) A/ D! m好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' Z3 P0 J4 G9 e; z; X7 t9 |: ^& A% w
honestly, if there is jesus
0 ]7 G  ]( w3 B' y% w; l& zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
7 a- D' `; O" ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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& X' |) {: W. v% z! oyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& o. T( W" b% F. K0 b3 b  P7 qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
, V+ Y5 [4 I1 N* Mso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......1 {/ w, L' n% z( K8 J
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ M, ^1 k3 m  p, n
bro singgeihot and rest365days
( n" v# c$ g! j, }honestly, if there is jesus
% I, K4 [. L$ }% Q; Zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 i" U( {3 N! @9 a/ mwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics, ]) r; v, t; N  w* f
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:& z4 _* d& A3 v9 P
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: