jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" g: r+ \/ H4 h+ ~( Pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 n, v* c- O: y8 u! f, i2 Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 v8 u. ^8 L) {9 V- \many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" u  T2 Q/ K2 e8 gbut why jesus need to do this?7 \; e" d- y1 y- h* o: B& E
punsihment for what???3 W, x9 a7 M+ Y+ [# _6 F' L; t
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; U) [' o- {& b2 ~! qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 C8 a! G7 y2 ]( }5 Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * ]' z6 Q4 I* ]+ E5 y* n! d9 I
what will u do???) s: K" n0 W% E3 s- [. @
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:' ~* l# ^( q8 P7 x
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6 T$ d* f/ g6 y/ W- ^; G8 Xyes, what did u think is what i...

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) B/ P( {3 |2 D4 b咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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$ Q3 F$ [) Z' p但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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; G5 `/ }9 D* l, \* f4 h' _咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. m( M6 U/ b% ~+ [1 ?( P4 e  j! wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( ^' \; \, {! F& f6 R
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" `3 r) ]  K( C) E
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 K. ]4 h5 A1 |5 T  i) a: c& h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; W) a" B+ ~3 @5 y1 ^. obut why jesus need to do this?* Y- F/ \- W% q: \4 E( ?
punsihment for what???8 Z! ^  E8 L+ s3 [: ?9 i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 O/ g+ a5 r2 X* ]4 l- Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% e: V) G& x- R7 F6 V! w5 Pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , @* n6 L4 |) \! m3 W/ B9 x
what will u do???( _3 U/ @0 T* G; L* ?( _$ E# x1 n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 }" f+ s: z( w9 f
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5 ~* f0 \& @& e! L6 z( r5 p* m# s2 b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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+ d" f$ U* [0 V8 g: p  M& M; l; Z議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- W: F0 a9 k/ C4 ?, ?
honestly, if there is jesus" z8 I2 A4 T! F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 s2 i& l1 D; F7 L$ C: x& T/ `; pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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% H# }- ~0 j  ^2 _6 D) F' Oyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
8 w% j: R8 u% d: ^5 x( J/ Ijust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it. J+ d) C9 l" \6 p! u7 X" y4 ^
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  G( D: h2 v5 [; A4 c
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: ~, r3 O) A7 n8 `1 O
bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. @  n# T3 w" t3 p) U7 D6 z! E
we can't blow him :cool:

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0 k4 M0 W2 Y! i" f( e. |understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% U7 H1 F3 `( G% d! B
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
5 {2 I) |) J- t- M自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: