jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:  P+ B% U! x/ [$ m7 ]# g
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! h$ T5 E* P$ L# y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; B# @" i+ e9 K
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ D# y4 E6 ?1 o4 J. h& j+ {, C
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 K+ k! e: v3 p/ b- T
but why jesus need to do this?
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 {( C& y$ S* f: e( ]1 ?% jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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* J$ b3 n+ ]  G5 Z咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& w' N7 k7 _! t  ]

0 \1 _  n2 j" C9 T( Y2 a. u# G但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
7 E# s+ _( B* ]1 z2 G7 @( u  Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( [+ g- a# \5 N# O9 \  Wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ Z1 E4 z. h* M7 \1 A1 K% D
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# I0 Q# u! f4 M5 nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 S# ?, W' `8 r1 X0 F: D
but why jesus need to do this?8 [4 e: Z6 _# h2 Y- a. N* }
punsihment for what???; S3 m0 \) l/ C$ L& i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. J$ C$ w) v7 b7 S9 _2 X
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 B  r# D* ]4 J' H" C1 q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : v( F" _" T" ^; R/ J* W* t9 G
what will u do???
- M* E6 H+ J$ N# }) Fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 @. a9 _: o4 W$ ]

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 h, c: Q& N; g& h. b4 Z8 \

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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7 v" E; I" _- Z- V好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 8 F* i- v. G" C  y& H3 ^6 ~8 c8 L: O
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' K' T6 G# Q9 \3 ?8 P9 D4 G
honestly, if there is jesus: Y) z3 n, j9 ]
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  R4 s* ^6 |: F) e' m6 o
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. l3 K1 Y. G! ?1 z1 L

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 R3 f( y0 ?( }. _just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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& f- r& t; y0 i1 bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
+ P3 K0 R  c0 ebro singgeihot and rest365days
0 ~8 n1 v! j8 D2 L% o9 M6 shonestly, if there is jesus
0 T5 a4 T! t! V" |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" n) ]% G# @& v7 C4 f
we can't blow him :cool:

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  \/ S) Q) K9 B, M# N4 x+ {understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:2 ]) E) O7 B1 L; l2 @3 J
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: