jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- d* s$ f8 A+ j
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架9 e0 W- V) o% }, O  r0 `' ?
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, ?2 o2 S) M9 T: Dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 u/ f  ^3 g5 p+ s6 u9 xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 H  j/ p6 V5 B0 v
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ [" t; q: W' n, B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % v' I- W3 k( P, z" o& v
but why jesus need to do this?
7 ^$ z1 R* ?) F: Zpunsihment for what???
* M4 W, S+ j5 k' S" Y# V" sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! g1 u$ y) ^/ d% _try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& O  o' X8 D+ g4 n# ^# X3 z5 u8 h5 C  h: }' Obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 ]' U! D) O* k: }# iwhat will u do???9 j! Q1 h: @3 j) n; F
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:' D  i3 U/ s9 ?4 u4 C
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9 q+ g+ I  @7 R, ]! u. jyes, what did u think is what i...

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4 C9 b: A# v! P! d咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排& c- N# L; {4 F6 a7 C- u

) |# g* W$ E! `* l咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
8 t" ?2 F/ E3 a9 O( m4 |bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) b, {/ _  |4 @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 ]5 T2 G. t; L: v% q$ s' H) hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 l* }4 W! S2 S" s! X0 R# mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 q& M; @% s$ M8 M4 j& nbut why jesus need to do this?& w& Z0 G1 M: B2 S1 a) r& F* b+ r+ ]
punsihment for what???
8 E3 P0 {" O  F7 ~  q( h  M5 Lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. Z4 B: b2 d, C" Q6 N# R
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 y5 y; ]6 A& Q9 U' X9 S" \1 e: ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 o8 E6 L; @. b/ J, Z  U
what will u do???
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 G! q, w5 b8 o4 d. ^) s
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" P6 @  D) |) `; ?
honestly, if there is jesus
6 x4 b4 c1 b+ i' |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& H$ E) _5 X( G- j- W) {' j* D( B+ s
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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( r4 M7 O! x. I" ?% _; ]" G' m- K$ |好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
  K3 I# Q( x3 p" \just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# Q" g. p6 q; S- p3 |0 |! o/ Hso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......5 ^9 A: i$ y- R1 j1 y
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# v# q3 f7 f! u7 X3 u7 ^bro singgeihot and rest365days4 q$ Y  Q' C& X! a. y
honestly, if there is jesus! t) g+ B4 A/ m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 r+ a5 p0 M2 Q0 M5 n% a5 \
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
# y* ?1 P; l! l/ w' m  cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:& w$ n% T; ~- r' u3 V
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ g: ^9 e8 d3 v9 J4 Zhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: