jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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( M3 g/ R/ d" o4 Zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! B5 Z. E% b# r; V
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 C! X, Z# p9 Bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment0 H  K6 M0 m! E. a4 ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' W9 V* }! d9 A( p: Z% t& @; R
but why jesus need to do this?
# _* L' U& k: O# ]punsihment for what???8 L0 z( Z: a2 l- H
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 V5 d3 L- i9 [1 X7 ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 f: C7 c/ E: P  a+ zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: D) m5 D0 l$ T2 U4 J. [what will u do???
9 C2 _: |1 W" F5 k# Z2 |just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:/ }: Z! a- f1 m5 |  L

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉" i+ Y- [5 {  Q$ e" u. |# D

; A3 @6 H, x- j: B但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( X+ C& d) @+ v5 R

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
7 }7 l' d/ I, `7 Q# i* k) ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! |  j! x' S6 H, ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 E$ p* e( z+ F8 i3 |; Bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 z) Z9 y+ r; y* Q5 xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " O3 v/ u" S! Q: J: Y
but why jesus need to do this?8 N& a( [# [: T' \. u
punsihment for what???
6 G4 ], C; D& W6 b5 ?* H3 wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 i  z7 ~$ {. _- X3 Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; ?' W9 f  a/ r9 a1 Ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 V- A; `; Q) y3 ?9 W; e) Q% R* R
what will u do???; N; G% K7 d/ A9 T# y$ q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 9 d' h* Z  t: _$ v: ]: K

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+ |' p! _& f5 i  Y7 b4 A  osorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; R: l# m9 i  ~, R6 m

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; w5 D. z7 {8 j- r" S& @

7 |9 i7 K9 E; S: W/ q0 }$ w議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, F8 A/ L% k) S9 q3 M) [' \
honestly, if there is jesus+ Q& N! j- b4 @: U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 a" [5 f# x& H" `# f( L1 `
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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. v4 Y) N7 p8 L: R  M) j+ s. M好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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! k7 E4 T: K0 I9 Q( Myes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life+ R  I5 Y, p# H4 N# v* p
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' S6 @* l% t: J+ u5 T* N! _
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 I0 C2 C7 g( |4 j
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:. r8 W1 U2 W9 w7 J# }' @
bro singgeihot and rest365days( H' `2 G( m& W6 @6 h
honestly, if there is jesus9 _$ I; B2 v( ^0 e. |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. @$ i9 B: |' @we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 y! \% Z7 m% a' m, j
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
( j/ P& p' Y6 X3 w$ g自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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& t6 D  x! l; d4 ]& S" y7 G! Xhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: