jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
( Z: u; q8 C) M) |' `仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
* C! ]  [9 F4 U4 l. E( x# K/ Z...

& ^! ?: K; R  @' k
0 V7 K9 w& h- a3 J! c4 f' c8 y. P3 ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 {' j4 X) h7 G9 l  W0 l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 s1 c5 i- x" f. A7 `# S& Z- R7 Bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 o1 {4 {/ Y+ ~9 Y4 w5 |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ b8 f0 v6 O( ~3 G- ~but why jesus need to do this?0 x) d  E7 m  {( B6 ^9 J# ]* Q
punsihment for what???  @! @# X& [* i' N/ A$ ^( z' f, p; z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 l* r5 d& D: `8 s4 t% F. K( c6 s. Ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 }! t7 D* K7 E* L0 \+ t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 G! @& e, x1 v7 O- x3 d! G6 {what will u do???( E! f* U9 N+ ?- S
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:, |8 l: C- ?5 v3 `" U- V* L

7 v, P' L7 S$ Q: M( L2 i$ W* Z# B7 X8 c. Z4 }
yes, what did u think is what i...

* s1 O# b6 G1 R) q& M
: K8 E8 t* V1 q, ^( R% _
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉6 l1 t( @8 B. I. |( S( @0 U
8 y2 O; G; z5 y1 _
但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 k, c8 \6 [9 _

  f2 N$ m, N3 V咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
/ h; U9 d, a& j( Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& m' M1 r- v  N, H# v' J+ ]
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' P# {  ]4 g/ V0 t3 u: p+ D) u8 N& Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 j6 `2 G5 R$ l0 Q+ Vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 H7 z9 ~  ]& zbut why jesus need to do this?* H4 g7 k6 _) s
punsihment for what???/ K; t8 L% q: W/ Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% h  q7 e" k  s8 ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" x- {) t" b, s. a) K; L2 }' |but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 t# F6 B4 ^' w( t  R0 }
what will u do???; l% I% T, M+ r/ O8 T0 H' \; E9 K! S
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
) \5 x( o! @* e7 \- |4 q

: G$ {$ b( D! x
% {) o2 y$ H2 `
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 w  c% \4 J- y9 Z: {( J" F) s' y; h  e

4 o+ l+ C$ u; o2 p+ ]  F  ?" q7 j4 Obro, did u know that there is a...

1 z# D6 t+ I- }# f: P) }1 [6 ?2 \7 z$ y. x

! E4 v; @% M: j/ i4 ]好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 5 _) V3 _' p0 Z6 F1 N7 t; A

/ |  e* m; n; z7 N! {& o3 d' S! h議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- I# [4 o" u- M! h5 ?& k
honestly, if there is jesus7 ]  {" O4 x( w7 g; G- n( v
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 }0 _8 h) f" c. [
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
! ~2 w0 X4 @- g! }+ l! i
8 B# l* }) T" y, a; p" t
( X7 y8 ?/ ]' {7 \/ m
6 ^" S2 y( z& n% x3 y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

7 P3 {0 E- i9 y9 `+ S/ S& p/ D" C* q: c, e3 `4 {! m# w
yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life+ a) T2 F" u$ e# g( `1 d' t# w
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
- K- E9 n) b/ e2 o+ J- P0 kso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 A2 z. p  @0 [& ~% D8 d' g
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
' b7 R, s1 P) V( L! xbro singgeihot and rest365days
# f! z7 D4 e! {$ x. R4 bhonestly, if there is jesus: n  t" Z: g( T2 x/ H7 w! ?, g- p
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 m+ }8 V7 _( I8 H/ _9 B5 `we can't blow him :cool:

$ K' x" }7 b4 W* j* L
+ X6 B5 M' q5 ^understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics6 T- P+ @, u5 h. T  i) p0 v3 d
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:8 F9 s5 w6 [% k3 W# v
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

+ S  w% C" p) U5 L1 D
+ P. E6 N* u" \2 z, }9 A( P
haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: