jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& B- A$ J2 Z8 p! N
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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9 ^9 c1 \( G  _* d2 @* X9 Tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ S) K) m. i3 d8 c2 h! T* B" G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 n- o9 s; K0 a' Owhy this happen? just simple........punishment, C  d7 |7 M$ m2 |5 t0 o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , Y; I( f( _5 t% \  u
but why jesus need to do this?
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! [" a( X/ h) Q, T, Z# [$ Vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 [4 w2 C' l3 ~+ v9 i2 e8 U' gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 S1 ?& z5 r- ?7 Z+ H' b- n( Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 s; S) K4 L: _0 Rwhat will u do???; [: o& ]! O" r$ g/ I' D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:7 P+ D; C2 o( y

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$ _8 n) S7 J* j8 ]0 Z  l# Fyes, what did u think is what i...

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, ~- M; E8 @+ j* h" m/ e. H2 N咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉- d. o3 G% P- e2 t
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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2 K+ k5 J3 L- `咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 D7 [- Q. b- g  _/ jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 m9 }& `6 s3 f6 r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# M# N2 V  m: n7 D2 r
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 n. p3 @1 ~( D4 V& L+ m# c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) S& f0 @7 @0 a& B* R# C. @4 Dbut why jesus need to do this?
- {9 j7 J: w8 A9 K" Kpunsihment for what???
) s) s  u& @" U4 dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) Q8 C5 ^% n" t/ c% C9 ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 q0 z5 M% t8 C. \- o8 d; P! w
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 s5 u, w0 L; qwhat will u do???
# U' A* y$ F. A6 b" Ojust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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1 n9 s$ v& `: q+ V& ]" ?bro, did u know that there is a...

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" \( n9 Y! B1 D% T好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 I1 s6 `/ V, j, y9 H: [6 C% J5 Ohonestly, if there is jesus: a2 f7 p, A* I: h1 W
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 h; y' c( A$ r. D( R  L0 c
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* D" z# W8 I. _' O, [  }
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 e" W( h9 `6 H& b1 _$ C
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
8 ~' r* e: R% O4 Rso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 |2 n% ?, m- N# J. znow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:) s, K3 h+ l: j' f
bro singgeihot and rest365days
) }' \. A- W4 p8 |honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% L7 W& }% M( P, z! I+ R1 f: {! R
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 \0 g3 I! X9 l2 Y2 V
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: