jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ n  h3 N& p) N) i$ l& _
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架: z$ D0 [( R1 Z3 R5 n" i/ U9 n
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. v& U% ?9 ]/ S& n! ~- E6 p
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  }6 n; M2 h" b7 `- \: j6 Kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment: C/ n+ ~. H: m6 U' j
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 T# b# e% T! A) z
but why jesus need to do this?9 k! |- I* k; N5 t* y* i
punsihment for what???
9 ~/ ?  b- V6 Y' n: dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) v; c( d, G% s3 ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 c8 s2 i$ _& m1 [) r7 o% Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ M& D# a2 z, A5 Gwhat will u do???/ _, v: D  L  N; s5 G5 p' O: u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" R0 h! a: r: [3 V& ]' W& P

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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: Q; T- L# q4 H$ [( @% N7 e咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; T7 v) e! Z/ ^

, P/ }6 p5 O3 q6 h* Z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ p- A9 h& v- b) o7 A
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* ]0 B. I( C2 b5 `! O2 k( ~- ]% ?comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 P( t# ^. P0 p7 b* w5 A3 O
why this happen? just simple........punishment- c+ {/ d& e9 f- R9 F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * E" l8 c, o5 M
but why jesus need to do this?* D/ m5 H  {$ X9 h1 b, l
punsihment for what???
' M4 {  }1 ~/ Z4 @6 ^for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ S' \  [  Q" c3 X
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 q5 G  D, U7 K* lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! J+ Q8 e6 L$ ]
what will u do???9 w# k) a9 i4 k0 u+ z, N# }; j3 f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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* z$ q, D8 h  ?- Lsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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/ X% H" e5 V" B( t' }3 ~! ?- S/ L好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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/ P3 G6 `5 B+ P, L議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: n# s/ P. @& c8 o7 r5 G$ Z8 l2 Shonestly, if there is jesus  r) Z% p3 r, E* b" m2 @
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" M$ R! E- S# R$ _we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:) E( M- R' [$ ]) U
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
2 c  A0 x5 B* u3 r; M# Djust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
4 @, }; b( @+ v" R9 B0 A  z4 B3 ?so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ U. E4 `8 j9 B- W9 a- `( c* p
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
9 a2 R' a( b) @6 |3 g  _bro singgeihot and rest365days' b+ ]+ C9 I; W) @1 L5 G( o
honestly, if there is jesus
' j, A3 m" d+ Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 ?7 J' \% {& ~$ ]) b
we can't blow him :cool:

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: b% S* |; z9 Q& u% O' Bunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics2 L+ O! t$ d; a& ~5 U
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:1 c& F# L3 O( B) Q& D4 n+ k3 v
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: