jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:. Y* m9 _" o! ~+ f! D! {1 |
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  V/ b4 ?: [4 ?& X# [/ r
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 Z/ @5 D+ [( R5 u/ E/ Y! k' S6 Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" R" a, i6 N* s
why this happen? just simple........punishment* R$ Z; X+ d0 A
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 `1 G: t; X# q6 C9 B, y( i( b9 Sbut why jesus need to do this?; p& F% R% R$ S( m2 s3 v
punsihment for what???
3 v) i& K6 |2 _7 Xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  b% r% r: D1 ]  t3 ]
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 X/ k+ h( }* i: H, G2 Gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 r5 i+ _6 b) f0 b. u2 [  Z
what will u do???- I& ?8 Q# ^( A
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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2 G. `( J2 I0 K" S但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 _! U" q3 F. b5 i' f" u/ J4 V

  G7 `& _; Q' X- M6 H% t咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* V& z" H4 Y; S' a* D. b+ a$ fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 ^0 v! N2 {2 @2 {8 W  fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 T, j# R( F2 r7 H- i
why this happen? just simple........punishment: {3 M) p  I; O) v- w+ ?) u. Q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % W* g. w; y$ C9 f
but why jesus need to do this?. {7 G: ^- P0 [  M/ s6 u
punsihment for what???/ e* U3 O. Z5 f% ~) K: N- Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* z: e9 `% @3 n& F; ^; S# O1 W) v  v
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 d  x2 O6 ^) R& x; f  y' I2 Wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 l1 ^% ?& r1 ^1 N; _7 @- p# }what will u do???% f+ V9 [+ o2 _6 L. M4 `
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ U, j$ X1 a9 a$ Y4 R7 }. j
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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, k, t1 c8 A/ b5 n2 M; x# p4 q議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 H3 g1 ~, d/ m
honestly, if there is jesus% \9 M4 u& s" w6 t% r' K
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus1 x7 B' _, S7 {; _/ A' {
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 k" `, a, n. O5 o
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life8 d4 H' @' C0 r$ n/ n
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
" b* \4 e/ P% `; _so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 M- m- L. s: l/ `now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
. u4 J/ z: t6 L2 }bro singgeihot and rest365days
: L( s* K  i- y/ U$ |. x5 Mhonestly, if there is jesus
2 ~. e( E7 u& p( b) w3 V' }0 ?* `% b1 Nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) ^1 b7 j2 Z% N) ^8 u4 ?
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 ~; M" x# |9 a$ }& u* ]otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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