jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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- }- `% E5 W- o1 @0 Q+ J/ o5 [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 r$ K. W8 w8 ]4 qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 \) S4 s7 F+ z3 N3 Cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment- r0 F# ~" T) P* ^
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & S! Q# f! L3 ?5 ~# K
but why jesus need to do this?
/ O& D9 z, r5 b1 t% C/ apunsihment for what???
2 g! k$ A# A5 zfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 y. o# @' a0 U/ [4 v0 G$ f2 A0 R
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: G- P& b) K  i0 g0 c- Wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* r! b: ~" \) vwhat will u do???
5 G; G& _, r7 y. qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 G6 ^# p( ?( h; v
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉# ~9 M, R6 A9 K7 l5 \& l

5 l4 h9 I3 Q- m' g4 Q9 Y  j但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) M( r6 Y' V$ _  ]8 N2 y: C1 @3 I8 Z4 g
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: b' {: a- T0 _9 E8 S1 X
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; h+ Z0 ~8 |4 i6 b4 h' h) F% ?why this happen? just simple........punishment
& G8 j2 J) E' G9 ?# mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 x: N+ d' e- k- u5 Z& J6 ]4 m+ y
but why jesus need to do this?: f7 ^8 U1 X2 b
punsihment for what???( S4 Q: `1 @! F# Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 ~# k8 ]- J2 k0 _% ~0 G' R. ]
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 O; Y& m& S& P4 G# s! y6 ^, q, s# }- Y' N" Jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 F& q$ m8 F# R5 Owhat will u do???
1 F5 ~5 [8 q5 O  c3 g3 |! cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! n6 x0 i! S& w& B  ~2 f- _
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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- v. l) `" ?3 E5 V4 ?+ [- p& V6 U議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 _# _( i/ I4 @' y& H; ]
honestly, if there is jesus2 n5 P7 X* |4 t# @" d9 I: g1 @
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' h" X+ d) L: j) N1 ywe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:+ B2 |* o. j; O% m
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ F4 n% u+ a9 }yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
7 X+ Z, |, \* `3 @: S1 o  I9 Y3 [just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
2 v2 A% e6 O( s% R1 bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 n; x4 }* L7 b3 _% Jnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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0 D! z3 ^4 v* g! z; khonestly, if there is jesus
: b: @6 P0 ^) Ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% }( U6 c+ `" {/ V" z5 n, {; `
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics$ n( P+ M  t/ C
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: