jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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' }5 e. e) D; }* z5 d2 d7 \$ [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) e/ P2 @: \( I3 @2 w, @3 }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 x+ K) L: f; ]( ?why this happen? just simple........punishment" M# f1 c5 {4 g9 ?% @
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ v1 s/ G: F# _* |5 y, u2 Ybut why jesus need to do this?$ J! X9 N- }6 H: S, F
punsihment for what???* ~: N, e3 W0 V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 R9 n: S) U+ ~# Q2 s: Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 I9 r2 |# L7 {4 V, F: p# [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% Z4 @$ H6 q4 h/ B2 r& j. q: ]what will u do???, o6 U! B2 |, V& e. I8 p
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉# [1 P/ }" S. j9 S8 k
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排/ h  l% P% L$ l/ r  C, d9 M+ ^1 D

* q5 p' e6 V2 W0 }1 W; d$ j+ q( V咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" G4 l; O; V5 |+ y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- V5 o' B# e# _/ j) E: F
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( Z+ _, a  }0 a2 X4 [- y" V7 ]/ ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 ]; Y/ r3 a% P: f- W  Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( T! M$ k0 c# ]8 v$ y) ~* x
but why jesus need to do this?+ O, B) t9 o0 a, j1 I# r) m
punsihment for what???
. Q/ L# I- V* G/ R% X- gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) \  V. c" q# i6 U( F9 L
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; V7 o! g6 H) E$ J' n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # S: F2 J2 m5 S  P) K" N/ T$ k
what will u do???- M# G4 ^) v: f" o. H: z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   ]$ k  Y9 {. e6 g+ {

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# E+ B6 E5 E! n
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
% G/ P7 V3 m0 Xhonestly, if there is jesus
+ i/ S* P, g  c7 {9 Q% |/ U- a, uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ c, k- l5 ]! w% o4 x1 J1 gwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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8 ~. T4 c: c, yyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 D9 t$ D/ k. g5 {1 ^5 O
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 @; y9 s9 h" ^. ^7 L2 u
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......* r$ N2 ^$ z# u
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
* C; @) M" O' w/ H1 W+ X6 Gbro singgeihot and rest365days
; P1 U8 s( g0 p( d7 q9 y$ Ahonestly, if there is jesus
6 d2 B* H2 ]2 i* yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
* o, S4 U  s# h( j' lotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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# g# j) T  l. i" k1 ihaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: