jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
3 F- E% a( Q4 [& ~5 f  I2 K仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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% e/ `0 k% h4 U8 g6 C! A+ |bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ X) v% b# l5 y' j! u9 ~6 w
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 V; ]; F# Q: {* b7 f
why this happen? just simple........punishment0 G* @8 q: d* \$ G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + q/ o+ a$ D+ S" l# J. A& n
but why jesus need to do this?& d% |4 {  k1 t/ }) x; m& Z
punsihment for what???! x2 t2 [' V( h0 w3 y' B( c. f
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& {) A& E+ w# ?: s; ]try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 e3 j% e* I) e2 ]& ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : b) n* g, J/ b2 e, p+ A2 g
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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$ S5 D9 i6 r: a8 Z8 ~1 t咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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! k* \9 p4 I2 M% L' y: Z5 l但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排. J* \# L; X+ P) P4 O
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  z! A' }+ o3 x! [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, p! {# |( C6 w+ M1 K: t# X6 ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: }5 z1 k+ w: o, I/ f! e9 r8 Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ u' Z+ u" l  d7 ^, \7 g% i8 imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 q2 W& g! ~$ ^but why jesus need to do this?
2 y& l. ?: [4 e. G5 ypunsihment for what???
+ b- E  h$ I6 U, b" f7 m2 D! P/ hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ Y" S) ^. {; ^
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, {! n; \% C9 h* i! ?  U
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) S/ @+ {, w2 K
what will u do???
7 ?/ B! V9 J" s8 b- v, Xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# [" k8 J# D3 M; P: o

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / I& b  k0 Z0 q0 h
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
# _1 y$ }/ E8 u2 Ghonestly, if there is jesus+ {6 e4 m$ N/ B/ x+ Z  \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; I# O8 R* K) n- i# P2 W+ m
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life7 K9 V9 t$ `3 J$ Q, g# n# K
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; y1 D+ y) Q) q% q+ Zso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......0 i$ k* S2 |: o* I. H0 c) @( j
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
, w+ F( @% Q9 w. R0 V/ v& }, L' y6 Bbro singgeihot and rest365days
6 u& c: N0 r7 q% j0 Uhonestly, if there is jesus
4 J) H) a% k- |  ~; {; a4 P8 Yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! q6 v3 u1 W- b/ X1 x1 r
we can't blow him :cool:

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: p! |$ ^* \, G  T% l- j; y# ?  g/ M0 junderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
1 q7 A. k4 m4 Z$ C自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: