jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:8 o6 _# w' v& L  {5 E' \# O
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 l, {/ ?" ^% b' d0 e
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5 P8 `" B( C4 Q; d8 b, [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: I, E* [7 h; r3 v9 jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 V: ^# E6 R' ~: c
why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ K" s, W( [% b4 ~+ `$ g, _% pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' ]( J- p, a1 z$ u. [+ T/ Dbut why jesus need to do this?
7 j' y1 b, f4 V5 p" c- \4 d, Wpunsihment for what???1 s' y9 n# q' `; C2 _# w& W  s
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ A6 b; y' R1 |! p; Rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 j, G1 ~7 ~2 [( `+ N1 {; y7 Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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& `3 j2 m" N* L2 qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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+ J- N+ q+ D. L! J' d2 g2 R/ D咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( H" R% \/ D* k- O) Y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ [3 I' e! I; f$ f, ~# Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- n  P1 c' M/ j( y2 I1 f
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& B: f4 B( x9 C2 L4 f+ w$ \3 Mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; K# p% Y! g+ s- u+ p* C/ m2 {
but why jesus need to do this?
: T. V. l# k; }punsihment for what???
) Q+ p& H! g2 v9 H- {4 S1 U! Ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ V" U- b/ ~- B+ utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 C% d2 _+ J7 ^" L  K" W5 r+ ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& }/ H, m4 C7 o% d. |: ?what will u do???
: V  v; y! l7 r( b& ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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: m% A  u$ h9 u6 i8 P# b* F; O+ |sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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2 l9 t1 l! Z( [& p! h2 X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 c/ g1 l0 R2 ?% k! |honestly, if there is jesus; X( X* a; V, q3 i( t3 {' o
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% v, ]2 W1 p, cwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, _; |: ~2 D+ ~+ Y8 M0 n; i
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( E+ N0 ^% ]2 Q3 h: ^1 C
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it/ h5 ^. o+ ]) ?1 E, W
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......- n1 d! T4 t, W, z, E# r
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
) K3 R$ b9 g3 ^9 e3 w) n# Hbro singgeihot and rest365days
$ S/ ~# H6 _: r0 dhonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics* ]5 Z  h& L  V/ d
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:. n% L; N$ b/ @7 I6 s+ ~
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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