jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:5 L* s6 W8 Y. A9 f
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: T8 e1 S, }# y) h/ Fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. ^+ L% _7 d$ d; r; J2 V. x& \4 ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment  d. B7 b* b  [0 ]1 |6 C
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  X6 A' S; v9 D$ t9 p7 @but why jesus need to do this?
; t: G/ F3 k: O7 A) T( \1 @punsihment for what???/ v+ Z! W9 M) O3 j
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 B3 f+ b0 V' h8 Qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% u3 Z. l" }1 Z8 V: p# L( I$ Q6 M2 Cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 g8 V* l! z  N) l
what will u do???
, c% u5 G( l+ n2 T' Hjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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2 d  {, `2 y1 }yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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$ {9 K4 n* Z! K! v但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ ]! [" u0 c1 \6 Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! J2 x; y. A) u: B4 x
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ P% d) L, y8 v- J7 owhy this happen? just simple........punishment# u$ g4 {7 `! C5 L5 R/ n( f
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 l8 Z/ E% ]* u9 ^  s8 Obut why jesus need to do this?
! }; [& L, Y, zpunsihment for what???+ g! W: r2 q+ T: |! s
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 p" l# V: r0 U5 B9 {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ S! i; O1 L6 O, S9 Obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: j" s& x) G& `. i( ?$ Qwhat will u do???$ O% [6 @5 `. L. y) Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 t% ~6 R: D6 E+ s

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 f7 N' `0 d# L) w/ I0 T
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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: P2 `8 i* c/ _好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; Y# E! Y6 f8 ^

9 s' K# f& Q8 ~* n/ U議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
* D, n4 {  q! }honestly, if there is jesus
5 V) M3 [1 y" V% S0 |3 Zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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: E* B1 P; U2 _7 a4 _0 D5 g! A好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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1 r$ x& b2 _4 T* M7 g+ Wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life3 j  x; o; `1 k/ Z3 |7 v! a1 l: ~
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it. p# c8 E- [# X6 D0 m0 c
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......4 j* X: Y0 k+ j. }
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:* ^- l; l/ D. j7 L8 x0 ?/ L; [$ Y
bro singgeihot and rest365days! W; u, C# v% M. {+ Y& W
honestly, if there is jesus
; [( j: h# D+ Y9 z4 Nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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1 S2 t* a$ C: Z  r1 x1 d0 munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 Y+ Y8 t: o" i) S; ootherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:, w9 g7 }# {8 C* T2 D. ^
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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6 y$ X/ V4 F; p7 E. }; e9 hhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: