jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ J. }- b9 f8 P3 S0 P8 L
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; a2 E/ L4 o4 s7 Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment. W7 Z- w, i( S
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 h  c; h* u% s# \3 i* K
but why jesus need to do this?
7 O- b* W3 A8 F0 }9 |punsihment for what???; x3 t5 Z; D% b$ n  U
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 V9 b; \2 }% C$ S6 \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" A3 y) C; }7 t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( }. k# O$ }- m0 z6 e% C: \1 A
what will u do???
7 A5 Q6 x) K7 `6 g+ gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% u( k  q! \, o1 H7 p
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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$ z  P) J% t4 J* _咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 {9 a) L% X5 p

" b# A' H: }% C2 H9 @  O' @但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排& C; @$ u- _. `' l3 ]

/ u" ], ^( H$ O; j咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 d* b$ {$ e$ G% ]5 V+ v7 y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# [8 y) {5 x3 Xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% \  W8 e% {: Q, V) ?. N, ]! O* X, awhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ ]$ m3 J1 e: f: J: s. W
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 R' v6 ?+ Z; [1 ^but why jesus need to do this?
) F3 g% d  E& w2 Tpunsihment for what???! v' q( Z; v5 h! [/ T
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 d6 j5 m& f+ z9 C/ {3 @+ X
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( x, w. b& ]! M- q& X/ wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* K1 d8 Y5 [" @5 D" X: |4 zwhat will u do???
' ~; F: c8 Z. }  |just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 g, `3 T6 Y! S3 e( W% P
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% l* o8 N6 g: @; D* L% Ybro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 2 s+ ^, T2 K  X3 Q0 p

4 {, G# ^- l+ |( {議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, a% Q# S( J9 C7 P$ r% @) N, m
honestly, if there is jesus
2 \* F* h/ b$ mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 `( ^- P% f5 ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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4 k* L+ n1 f0 P$ N好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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' e5 S- w" c4 C' g. @- tyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life' D0 w* p; I' O
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
/ z# `& H& e; Z" Iso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
5 E# X4 J0 S3 Y( Y; unow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
. e2 c; r) \  H0 x; {7 Bbro singgeihot and rest365days/ ?( k' b$ j1 |) v: B" _
honestly, if there is jesus: E! u& y8 q( [4 ?3 q3 K
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; s: g4 L$ i" S7 R* y0 e. w6 ?
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics3 L  f- {/ b# E* Y7 {' K
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) x" K0 L7 z; ^. s) j# u8 Z3 u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: