jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:, `1 \( P# \5 G+ r. P( h
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架. P( f% x" V* C/ \# L; I0 {6 E
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: ?6 {" n& j2 I2 o$ C( \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. a4 O% t. T. E$ d( ^comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ o5 \+ \8 N. `( s% K# i  O
why this happen? just simple........punishment
  K5 ~+ N& y) c# S7 ]9 ~many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. t5 A- s7 `( S3 k( ^& h' ]! obut why jesus need to do this?& a0 S% m! Z6 T& e; L' u
punsihment for what???  ]* Q/ _0 U* ?) j
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 `  G' G; _) Y+ h
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 {9 p3 ?( U. A+ D; n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   Y6 j2 n. e1 u) T- e* v/ l
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:* |% k9 T1 O8 o1 b& L
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; m7 W+ V- R- ~8 h咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! [; F5 i* @# E" k' \

' e! Y& `% p9 M7 Z5 R但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ \  C4 b) ^! O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 t; T9 z1 k9 K
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- R6 X  b  v2 owhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! \. O0 s* v6 e3 G6 smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 _5 C  k5 L& j  [, c
but why jesus need to do this?
8 s: H6 j& m( apunsihment for what???2 H/ h; E* A/ ^. A' ^. r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" v/ M% \6 U2 S( u5 h2 }try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 I+ V. F  b3 A* n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: C  Z+ v: |1 ?  }% `" u9 owhat will u do???- ~/ i- J8 R/ w
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   P& u; g4 P$ @  a

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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4 _+ |" q4 a) ^! I: Abro, did u know that there is a...

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  @) w2 a5 o1 D6 ?3 C好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days# E  K% W+ }, b& Q& b
honestly, if there is jesus
" ?5 E) h5 o, V& ~5 fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
& Y" h9 X7 s6 y+ a: G+ swe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( d' w- G0 P( \8 ~$ j( `, ~
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
( x6 `+ T6 A% Vso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
& j5 u: M: Y) m- R6 ~now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
, S& e0 E5 N' G/ i. |; Jbro singgeihot and rest365days
7 u( t( t2 N! k- A7 rhonestly, if there is jesus; F; }, F1 ?1 P: t& U% U* }9 Y9 e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 n& Z( j+ U( ^( x0 L7 }we can't blow him :cool:

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% P7 g4 p% B) R  b$ v4 nunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
$ j) x& O% h' U+ m) ]; O+ rotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
$ S" D+ i; e/ }) \; h2 [" k8 L, g! L自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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0 Y/ p0 m# r3 Z4 dhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: