jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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; d8 ?/ G$ U! C/ {. q) nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 J) B; `- M9 w0 l' t6 O4 ~
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 ~. S+ m& r0 R# j
why this happen? just simple........punishment9 }9 {1 b; h( ^: L
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 {, Y# j: c8 R- Z7 I  F
but why jesus need to do this?9 i! h" n: B/ J$ K$ k9 D6 K
punsihment for what???: f; a8 M9 k0 Q1 D
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: h3 S- a3 m1 H& @) I2 R& F5 Ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 q0 h2 s  p, r. v0 }
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 V4 i8 I% l; Hwhat will u do???  _2 h& n4 T9 w& @8 D& h4 f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ u8 ]5 N3 L+ M4 [/ K6 ]

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
! t9 K8 }/ D+ J( m' b* I2 t9 lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 d& k, {' u6 c* g( \$ _$ W
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( K7 P0 B9 e2 i3 K3 _
why this happen? just simple........punishment) ?% L# I, x! m) P2 y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 T& \% A9 v, `$ W) _
but why jesus need to do this?
# C7 _4 A* h% F5 `1 j: n' h' \1 Lpunsihment for what???! J4 ?! H$ {4 d/ i' i  Q+ Y) c
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! s. a  ^" M/ p$ o" ~' r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 l( V9 L  ~6 _/ C1 D, S8 L8 y8 L' n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  U9 N3 L& O; Q) P( Rwhat will u do???
) P2 |% P% z$ w/ ?7 l* zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ; l6 H' v% j$ A- G- b

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  {. O( k0 |6 i3 Q: F
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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" o7 o9 E5 t# b4 m2 _0 Y# a8 ?2 W議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
* w4 k! M: ?) U* l3 bhonestly, if there is jesus
3 D' B  Q% t& Jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# K+ t7 ~  U5 @( [we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, _4 W# \* O1 X! N9 Y' s

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; V/ H- C4 ]- O4 A8 z+ p6 Z* @just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
8 C! J% \' k; K. k! {, @/ B, [0 M" lso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 E5 G: c+ ~9 z* T% u' bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 B6 A+ n- R: v6 }1 L
bro singgeihot and rest365days- S0 j: m. x* E/ q1 X$ k4 K) x* c
honestly, if there is jesus
/ H) w+ l( [1 t0 Y: Ihe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
8 I0 E; P' h/ z) p) P7 I8 _  Qotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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4 y* T7 D* q7 s2 j# A; Fhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: