jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
0 h7 e3 ~3 b' P- G$ ]. y2 {仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架- k- s1 B$ p/ J5 G. @
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ O* S: j' U7 s  T( F; W
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; G$ G) x( o4 |7 D1 C8 L
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( H6 W' k+ }- omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, _% b- ?+ ~$ o# a! \3 qbut why jesus need to do this?
1 b; K. W8 `( _: W' ]6 Kpunsihment for what???8 f* s; G/ A# T( B; H9 V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 r1 z* R9 A" X. k7 o: u) gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 H6 ]8 |" y% d2 ~. \6 S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 O" w0 ]  Z" O9 C" d
what will u do???
3 G  n3 q2 w! njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:. g2 o3 ?( a. E8 X# \/ t4 v! [

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排& _1 |) b( X( E! i/ g9 U# v1 f- E

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  U& h+ G/ D8 S# m, K. Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, O( j: [# d. m: d) h3 o9 {# ~2 Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( ^3 e; S1 D4 P4 x, S  F3 u
why this happen? just simple........punishment% W4 d% O3 c& i! y. e) ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 T8 L+ o- C) o6 fbut why jesus need to do this?
# J# d! c4 u' c; Q* y/ a0 a" Xpunsihment for what???
2 a3 {% K' t9 q  O2 V$ P, m  t% Ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' S+ G" ]$ `, s' Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
  C7 i2 d$ u: F5 e4 ]" mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ X- [/ w" l5 {8 Z, ^0 Q1 s0 Mwhat will u do???& R2 j5 V+ C" V* s4 _" a
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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; j  \, ^  R7 C% _8 Psorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, [4 x- s( H& x7 w& e
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% [* M0 s: `3 B% X7 J; Ubro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ( Q4 A! J4 j7 K% t1 o

, c* w9 }6 Q. c6 j議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days* |0 l" ^% x" {' E
honestly, if there is jesus
/ D- i, _! e% c1 B+ }% W* Q1 }he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* q. h: \! @, H0 r/ z) |we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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# q* }6 O& }: S; e) G6 d1 Jyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; r+ [5 e# r* n! B/ A
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ a, W: ~3 }& C# S% Oso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
% h$ ~% w0 O( Wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! x/ d) \6 z9 Kbro singgeihot and rest365days
( A3 i1 _  y' dhonestly, if there is jesus. |* Q+ G3 e' n( R% |8 I
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics/ K' |8 d, F/ x7 P
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) o/ x, y6 c+ H. D: R: M- p
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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: j* v3 {: T8 u: U8 m4 ^1 Whaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: