jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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$ S) t7 v7 |" h6 ~bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 F7 i& ]* K$ q* s" u$ ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! T0 h1 ~  @8 {  V( ?why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ w) ~$ j$ R9 o7 ^many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ d& e! N0 L/ abut why jesus need to do this?0 B# ]0 u0 u5 r1 l+ v
punsihment for what???% B1 P' X& C2 `, A& Z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 D& M6 G( z: [% u9 B- c
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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% ]5 |$ C% |: U5 }yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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3 p3 K. c% u% m  F; I但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排: T1 i/ t- z3 m' K4 f+ a

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 n- e" y# ^2 l- n3 ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% J; E7 S5 `9 r' ]) X2 b. @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  H& {1 z9 F+ [7 `# _) f
why this happen? just simple........punishment
" K1 W# ]8 A" tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * [2 z8 `/ y- c8 H3 H. r9 v
but why jesus need to do this?
& }" }, a  b' a  N; z# Jpunsihment for what???  F# |+ F- |( A: b0 u4 D6 }' A
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' Z! G8 M' f* H( n" M8 }try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& \8 q0 \4 q8 K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 p& {( F+ [' e' y! Hwhat will u do???/ V3 |' N; x! W/ J! C8 k) y6 s) @- V
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) |$ h3 X7 B, w0 U% `

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' G) q+ f( ~7 r: B$ y0 u: Mbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ r6 \- V% ^( W# ?  U/ l! {
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
0 C+ v# {' Y  ?, g2 rhonestly, if there is jesus
4 D8 r$ a  ^/ j- ?0 n! w) `5 h" Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ t9 G1 t% J# S4 b, Z' G
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; C1 p: o3 v! v
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
. |& A" k: ^; w, W: jso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
1 @, ?: J  s  x6 L: y' Lnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
& |. B* g5 B" g( i0 s1 ^; N4 A: @9 w+ kbro singgeihot and rest365days; p, e5 N4 ~4 `+ Q; j8 E% w% J
honestly, if there is jesus, p7 U- R: |; H# H" p* t# @
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 X8 C% l8 q* `  [3 M  L
we can't blow him :cool:

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  [; E* Q* W& I! h* munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
$ H/ d+ w  \: t' [2 Iotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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9 C- o; c) n# V' hhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: