jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- K5 U& }4 ^# y' J
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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$ V6 A3 d+ s# K! ?+ d3 kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 ]8 P! I3 J! U# a8 Q) |6 ~; Z. a
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 w/ A4 V  x* E. r$ ^4 ]9 j* cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 u# Z% k3 F% M8 k2 ~' p/ T
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * r$ V3 b, N, j5 i: D
but why jesus need to do this?; C" Y7 r& K! `& C8 o; R* _; D  H2 p
punsihment for what???$ Y7 q' ^' V* b" Y& T
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 T( g& h/ f5 k) q2 ?1 H8 L
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. Q( c3 E# }2 Z$ q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 k$ U# D7 s6 s0 K3 G4 ?+ ]what will u do???
1 n- u0 ?7 P* X- Y- xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 z) t! u- E% y7 ~+ p

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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# d( U2 u" O  u! J4 F/ q4 @咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉% b  D. Y' S# L( g4 x
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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6 I0 \' q5 c3 V5 K/ [+ q+ o$ f咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 b. V  {' E2 Y5 @1 p/ Z" s
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 f' {/ @0 q  F/ y4 ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 {) h: W; ]$ j; U+ C' Y: S
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# S2 s) Q+ z% z7 x' \many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + ~; ]% |& G6 n1 X' _- Q7 g
but why jesus need to do this?
1 W- d4 I5 ^3 z- Ypunsihment for what???! X6 e' h7 q& b9 v) Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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% {( g) _$ m* s2 \; p% G/ c. ~" Abut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + E3 t4 Z9 n1 b- g' \4 D7 s  Z
what will u do???2 D3 s% R& ~* t  @
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, L1 \; H+ Q; s% {. \0 s

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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. x& Z, H5 ]6 M7 O" d; l好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 - x8 B" r0 a2 s9 i8 i' k
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" M2 O1 _; J" V9 ~: O- Khonestly, if there is jesus
& t) w9 [0 }. u6 P. Qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ X  y- Y: a8 g' {  {7 z0 ?we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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& h4 \1 a( ?# }5 {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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% W- S, K* p* |* X1 [( {5 nyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life) h) S' u  [, g; O
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
2 ^5 o: z7 W* P8 w( |! I; h' O) lbro singgeihot and rest365days
* S. K( a% i1 i( [honestly, if there is jesus
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4 C2 Z8 C3 F7 f# V& H7 N' r( u- Iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics1 a: w# j/ {/ O2 K- e' A
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# q2 I  f0 y1 A1 z0 f4 [( k" _自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: