jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:7 r$ x1 x' [! h4 S6 s' k; z  E
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架1 @+ }+ G" l4 r
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  K  B" ^8 a9 D) I+ p1 J
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# Y' H; D  l3 D* V% y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# |: R9 e2 H8 G2 W6 {0 }many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 g8 P* m- F1 ebut why jesus need to do this?
4 t/ ~3 k7 i1 v: `+ opunsihment for what???" ]; h9 f. v2 z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# y% ^: W, Q% f2 g% S9 Z: e5 {7 h; ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 P4 y, J  |! o  ^7 O' b/ C1 p
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" d# |8 a9 F; ?) B3 k& U3 Z  q0 k
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  e$ Y/ O! S1 P( ^yes, what did u think is what i...

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% N7 o$ R. V% e4 [) f. ^咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排  ^9 @, f7 I" W; P
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 B+ B/ V! j6 Z. k. Y1 w
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; {) N; ]) @3 t: u4 K
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* r* J+ R) ]9 g) B, G5 j4 y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 O3 M/ S, Z. f- bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . I# g4 d1 S- |3 l$ N$ N# i$ G$ j& X
but why jesus need to do this?/ v7 ~% n! R7 I: C
punsihment for what???
' W4 H0 R- l$ Zfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 _- ^2 J! D1 f5 s3 E0 o( w
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, S7 ]% m6 A9 o( b1 @  g
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 N+ O/ x& r3 J& ~
what will u do???$ m6 N* s2 r: ?4 d( X1 D* n9 {
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 w1 G/ U! l# D% X* K

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 ?0 U* |% r0 m+ Q  W/ M) N' Wbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 3 C2 @7 h' q0 X1 m$ V: \7 i; |

* L- B& s: v: J2 O4 j議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days& g8 a4 E8 j0 Q  t2 D
honestly, if there is jesus
0 L# H" q! [2 Q& Ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 Z) Q! d4 k9 R* X5 k9 j) _. V
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 f& A" Q- C& j  d

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# r% T' y/ D4 L8 M
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ i. c4 P3 C5 \$ |0 n
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
! u4 j3 K9 H3 t8 ^now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 A2 e1 u# Z0 \* u% jbro singgeihot and rest365days
( g  ?; f  i! F" K; [3 Ohonestly, if there is jesus' v# V4 G  A3 w, @4 Y' O. c( m; Q, U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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( y/ m/ K) D+ l' n6 `5 xunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics4 T( s9 \  u; T9 R
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:1 T, {! ]! C: q& U4 v3 R
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 U' Q( I3 y8 \8 J" @( x: t- A8 bhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: