jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:+ d. S, Z2 F0 ~* g
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架+ f; ]$ X/ C, _* {, x4 ~
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  o' ^7 w, l# Q" I6 b6 [3 U! x5 C! Abro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ U' D4 t$ N: E5 c, k% _9 M- V
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  ~, t" {! ~! ]/ [6 ?
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: h8 }  S% Y1 g. l, n4 e2 Vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; _; z7 I' ]. }# f$ q" ?+ T% P
but why jesus need to do this?: [/ W5 p8 W: t9 U+ a: {/ V
punsihment for what???
5 y: m; E7 E* h. rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( }& h  X+ p6 a) e4 y+ m) u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 n  l" n. ^: O/ O5 D$ A& J$ H
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  I4 g5 ?, G- C# q* h  pwhat will u do???, {/ T: ?( l- ^6 Y8 I
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ L# I, y4 X9 z6 L5 ~3 N
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉% q1 a; F3 {' W, g
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排; Y* q2 c3 ]" P+ E* @( N
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
0 D7 n# B, ~( H# g* p4 Rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' Q/ t; r2 u" A; b+ Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) M1 J+ E* C" F+ k; gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! l6 y2 I- d8 M& h* f& h3 k; }4 dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 e- R; z: r9 G4 B8 [
but why jesus need to do this?
5 a  E$ I2 ?, ?7 r& X) |* Dpunsihment for what???
5 }! n% l5 W1 G3 B0 h) `' T1 R* afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( R. ^5 E$ ^( g$ o/ Wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; g* |0 C  o3 {' R# ?) m
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   k: R" T1 v( U
what will u do???! a4 Y, s+ |  h) U: m* c+ J
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ @) k$ ]. U! v# x

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ C: w& |# [) [7 t) q
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 k3 q5 G. _( @& k$ G5 i- _honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 K: ^. `( p+ C; s% ~

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3 k+ U3 d, W4 S/ `0 I3 S好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- ]6 {2 t* g, V0 {# @7 M* \9 fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
4 ^  `& |7 f) ]1 r5 i1 zso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ b5 _/ G; I- h1 M# |4 G
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
, E9 ^, N; I0 g) Z% |* Fbro singgeihot and rest365days( A- _3 }. n: r6 u& _6 g
honestly, if there is jesus
0 E3 y# F2 A3 C; n/ l" s' Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 A7 U/ I, i* j  ~4 x# u7 w4 X
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
0 A# g0 T* f1 Jotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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8 \$ Q# ~/ L2 A; Yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: