jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:' o7 l0 _3 Y( H
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" p9 Q" k+ Z- K% {2 w
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ Y" L1 q7 c: H, v; f; zwhy this happen? just simple........punishment6 f7 _, e; k. P$ s& z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 s. e3 b7 k/ Z, @7 m9 n2 T
but why jesus need to do this?
* h/ z. K1 I- O4 Ppunsihment for what???* y% u3 u# y, s( k7 \+ O1 l7 @0 q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- H5 [4 }* S7 H5 S' K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! k# t- |8 @4 e+ j. J1 e0 B6 c
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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6 H2 l1 j, o' j6 S3 `咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排# m5 \6 c' V4 ]) r

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! t% {1 t! h6 n, M" O5 A( f  S
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. a- O8 A% B2 S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 O, k: w1 ?2 Q! F3 }  uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
- E5 z- ^3 Y/ v1 p& s9 Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 C' ]) k* ^, n* U3 {& xbut why jesus need to do this?
4 Q, s) i! }7 W" Gpunsihment for what???
. w, w! R" o: f9 f+ Q/ gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) n! v" V4 _8 v, F
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! R2 U, [, B, u0 ]  Y' o
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 s3 L# n; F! T/ [, V5 nwhat will u do???. I, |- Q1 W3 [* y, C- I
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, % x6 k" q6 [1 T6 ?% r9 ?

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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0 s% x9 N0 Q3 X$ h! W8 mbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 Z& r+ U" N+ K

  |1 I3 O0 a/ ~& e+ J/ u9 x議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: y( ]7 _, e; `: m, D3 M, o  k6 ghonestly, if there is jesus# j+ R  c1 |3 k6 o& E2 F# e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* C; ]% y0 e: Z8 D7 c6 W% P
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:- L# z' a( X' f9 _, Y3 s, m
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life) N1 d) U. Y$ z
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it0 s! p5 l$ u) J0 _2 A. y
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
7 J9 A4 _3 J) ?0 b8 g  wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:& A; y8 V$ S: s  j- G6 ~( ^, g
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: