jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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& o& [3 F* o5 X2 V/ Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 u4 z0 t/ {) d1 R2 a! H4 ?0 g$ J3 N
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( b) }& K8 q. b& U3 t4 ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment) o6 U( q/ t: P! Y6 V8 f: X
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, u  B2 ]3 E$ P( M2 y; Nbut why jesus need to do this?
+ i. ?9 _6 k1 j/ P6 a% }punsihment for what???6 x( f5 S% {! y. F! E
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; C% u2 K2 i! n3 E9 t+ E  l
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  `9 A7 o" M0 b9 x* G$ x3 f( A$ W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . k2 h5 E) q; `+ u4 }
what will u do???) ~" l9 }, c$ L# L7 v% T; ~: r! U
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 A; S0 Y* H9 `: V, d* B# x4 y

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0 k4 D8 o9 h: z2 c+ jyes, what did u think is what i...

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8 N5 i1 o. Z3 F! ~' }+ E咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 _* `4 c1 e6 H. `/ V9 ?
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排- e! m0 p. |8 m8 s
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% K  t/ {+ r4 h; W
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) c* n2 a0 b8 i. i: K/ A* w- r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! T/ }  u& g; gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
. c+ S" j  H* Imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 a" h2 V9 a3 A* T) z) ?3 ^6 sbut why jesus need to do this?
# y# f) O% ?. c" s9 k  Bpunsihment for what???$ `; z6 v- i4 i2 a4 i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: s! h, H. y; t/ I
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, s& Y" q2 ?2 ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ x( h8 q/ l3 f) Ewhat will u do???
$ K8 H" W5 W; u+ ]: [$ R$ l4 Zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" _/ U' p( J! h% U
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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8 K6 O+ y5 K+ ^6 O! C好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 3 w1 g  H/ Q) k+ g+ b  ], T

6 I/ T/ K' U+ H/ u: c議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ Q* u# H  @$ s/ j# o+ J. Z3 x! p
honestly, if there is jesus- F/ M9 n) p' j# x- _, G9 ]
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( l# Y8 L- ]7 W( V8 h* |5 H# R9 Hwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:1 h8 |. K; y; L3 J+ j

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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/ B$ q* j/ {/ myes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 e% Z1 M7 y4 h! hjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 ^0 L- d5 C$ r7 \' ^! N
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 S: n7 P. A) m' |! d7 l8 _: gnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# c- D5 y6 Y) i: s) c
bro singgeihot and rest365days
: Y& K3 k# v$ {. Nhonestly, if there is jesus
$ D* Z2 V, d. ~: i2 khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; W7 d/ {5 B* u  k, A
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
7 k' Y" B% U$ q6 Sotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
1 L5 E0 L  D* _6 \: V' c; F自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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% E, W1 B+ i# b8 q6 o' ihaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: