jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
# x# R3 G: K$ }; [仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 y# L* y# r* [; @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 ~# A* A5 g6 P5 D7 P
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: u6 K: x: f% }, i& |% j/ }9 pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 K2 I( a" m5 p' y! p0 u
but why jesus need to do this?
4 ^. ^  v% \3 G5 ]  n+ Z- Dpunsihment for what???
6 ~7 N" T$ u- g& `2 [9 u- n: g* Y* pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 g: c$ V: F; V! e: X5 jtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 O0 k) J* L, f# M+ {; {$ ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + F3 ]) R4 e5 `6 ~5 b% q* z
what will u do???  F5 P- r+ F1 q+ [: k( E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:! w8 a3 U5 x$ J  Z% j6 _/ H

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$ z  e1 r( r$ J9 S咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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$ x5 _! Z8 u1 j' J% `但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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$ n5 S. b( @% N! G. X# ?5 A. [! k咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 V2 d. Q0 w4 K5 F* q* u, [$ ?; kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( X, c& V/ A0 L' \! p3 {. Ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( e  o, b( s/ F  _* D) H; C
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, Y* z, ?) f8 zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & T+ I, a5 k, i* g# w& V
but why jesus need to do this?$ r& p: J' a1 [- M5 H3 |
punsihment for what???
' i/ q& F+ O2 j! D" m( [& j. afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. v+ \2 x( _# k! U/ Vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; J& ]$ I' h, Z& l: {2 pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ }0 \4 ?9 U5 U& G( l
what will u do???
( J0 a: I& i5 X0 v$ Y( c: Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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8 n5 q! }2 Y3 u3 Q: D5 g4 w$ osorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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# S2 Z6 k2 D6 _# S$ {2 u議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  l( u; @5 n, o0 R7 q1 s( L7 R& }
honestly, if there is jesus
! I5 w9 s3 w0 q0 `; L- v/ Che really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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, Q0 k9 b; \5 Q0 D8 c4 }7 Iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life6 _/ j6 r* o8 I) c' o% s
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
/ G, T0 ]$ J/ A/ {, D' Z2 p2 n8 K) [6 _so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
& a" K8 d7 `8 a+ ^now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! U8 b8 d; e- hbro singgeihot and rest365days" b6 T8 A: Q8 K, x1 t
honestly, if there is jesus' e* K7 _9 e: |# j8 O
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' Z: I- R4 W* r
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 K/ ^+ L) F8 _6 M1 Aotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ ~8 C% h% |6 S6 Q% o# x7 G
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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2 {: A! A) p6 bhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: