jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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: [2 ?# H3 z' w& z. |bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. C+ R' |& I4 R- q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 I8 y  g5 |" S7 O+ awhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 ~" Q; q8 {4 w' {: U. Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; M) S( c/ C1 {& v; v* I
but why jesus need to do this?. [% r8 G8 ]+ n% j: ?1 ?' M
punsihment for what???! C9 M- v- O; Y: x4 W% p
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 M0 K! K" `# ~' M3 w, `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 f7 _# \! ]* a2 ?: D4 a
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % J- X8 h6 l8 P  p
what will u do???' I8 o$ X: }' k6 \+ k0 ^* a
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉) O0 P2 I9 d. `0 n, B
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排1 M, M+ {8 `; j3 c6 ]& \& y

1 }& p" _+ C# h" ~5 H咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ \! H7 r5 g" ~
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ H) O" |" ?" j- s8 k
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ [( e6 f7 O! kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment  I/ H4 P* A2 c7 m1 p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! i" X( w, \1 l+ W! f' Ibut why jesus need to do this?, q& v+ ^$ W. Y5 X
punsihment for what???
" \7 u0 {2 F$ bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' [6 {2 K! k( X0 W( T2 l( c5 Wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 G0 \/ T- C2 o( ~* U: S, G' ~  G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ) A7 e" q3 H8 L6 G5 `. y+ Y

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 M. D  h6 F  V6 W" C) Z9 ~6 @+ I
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
- A9 @. G9 r9 y2 u7 k; @honestly, if there is jesus
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* m8 C" ^5 R( Mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 G: Y4 `/ j+ X8 D3 {( I1 r

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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8 k' s( q6 V7 c4 U  wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
4 P! V* P. m$ I' yjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 q& B/ e* G6 m+ Nso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......4 v0 c, X3 B7 R
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
% S! F  b0 E9 m4 t7 \bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- E# }+ c3 U! g& Z& j( }* O/ {
we can't blow him :cool:

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5 I6 s# N* r6 u7 F9 u  funderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
1 G) i; q" h; Q9 votherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: