jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& K: I( J- l; u: ^  `; K
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架0 m2 X; v% B2 y6 Z: P1 R7 E( n
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+ H6 w3 c& `& @: wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# B" w6 }/ Q6 Q' r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ o, w8 @# g2 ?% Y) P$ ~4 _% g( Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment
6 m% N% N0 ~; fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! h7 {; {" n* n: {" }but why jesus need to do this?
% o1 v4 _8 C& Q/ _: a* Npunsihment for what???
1 l. E1 d2 ?; F2 q0 vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 b  M: r9 t: utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 h9 e* P& Z& p6 c0 i6 _
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; J2 g: ~9 p( ~& V3 d5 C& o
what will u do???
! B9 ^4 ^/ U* x3 Rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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% V+ g! F( O, @9 E9 R, O- _- ~yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉6 L: O  T; p2 f$ |2 z' z1 h. X

3 T4 ~) N. C+ T但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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0 V9 c% z, @1 z. O  o$ O2 f咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& T8 ~8 C$ r# `& `. b- A/ Z. fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' m6 l: ?; `2 l' M! o. G2 ^# Y% x
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 Y3 a0 Y% R( W% A# o' k3 ~why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 R% p( u' Y4 p# P7 a: Bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 l9 P' T/ ~5 O2 P+ k
but why jesus need to do this?
- c2 ^0 q4 n% ~! ~( p6 ?, `punsihment for what???
. X" m3 m5 ^6 F7 _for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 @7 T# F: Z+ a; C' y. f, e7 |" ~
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 E' x& q  r  S7 F& C# n, |' O0 _: nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 `* z( w1 f( {; z
what will u do???; ?/ K$ g" w1 }. [
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 3 I4 S% h, D- c# |$ q8 a

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) b5 [: y8 V: n# }) A: Osorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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" h- I4 A4 O# j& u: N好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ r" g; n/ P6 @4 x, H
honestly, if there is jesus
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9 h' h% }+ d# j' u5 Z0 jwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 z6 ~$ Q/ M& h6 v

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# \8 ~/ d3 U! y& C1 [( m. W  M& X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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. N6 O6 ?8 @* m4 `3 H% u# ?) g* ?yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
* ^* V7 r! U! A$ gjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; E' W# L" v: D1 H+ yso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
% N2 v9 w4 A7 u: z2 i- wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
" ]7 @/ h. ^8 @1 sbro singgeihot and rest365days
$ G+ M: J' ^% j" q8 z3 l  y: Uhonestly, if there is jesus9 V$ x4 X& G0 t1 D: T7 q% T
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 L% ]6 `- B6 G+ ^$ S1 f+ ?we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
! ~) z1 ?  V- _$ M  J- l; O9 Hotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
/ r  c  L" T4 l5 O) ]5 G2 G# N! A自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: