jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
6 J6 H7 z& D% d( r# r仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% H+ Z' X0 O( C3 ~& X9 C2 a% V7 {
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4 y7 o8 z+ p8 y* F3 m; z) L9 Obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, W, s8 U7 E! I0 h6 ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" ]/ }0 W* H% J" ?
why this happen? just simple........punishment: e4 S: b1 u7 m+ X# S
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" [1 _% t) W3 L% i, xbut why jesus need to do this?1 z" S. R( Y" }1 S; I! ~
punsihment for what???
" |# G! N0 Q% }* W: H9 q) Vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: k0 b* t; H( {; T0 ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 F+ Q; l4 d% B. b7 Pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 \- t, p4 z( _7 M
what will u do???1 i3 l* o) h8 n9 A
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:: b, Q7 |& J1 C5 V, w7 W# N4 z
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) B7 x' M, |. \# a% n$ ~! H

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. z; b0 @8 U- Y8 x' R8 M: |2 Gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 G* S8 A0 Z0 ^- m
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 a- E$ Y5 z6 c( ]* s* ~) Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment, A! o1 j8 n) p* z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 l% K8 U/ ]' @( g& b
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 A4 L3 o- Q5 ]2 C; U( C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' Q( u% D; z8 m1 S, h$ p& ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
) S' A' d  L; S+ C, t! O( u  Nwhat will u do???
' @8 F# m& z& ]9 l$ i9 X* ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* X! t; d; T4 e; u2 L

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
* V# g+ M. s" A# ohonestly, if there is jesus
; A6 o2 M$ E  O# e8 R2 b/ [4 bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# v/ ~' t! j8 t" z
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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  K: N$ F& Q0 L4 ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( s5 F# U3 m6 P& W
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 Q% K% Q& |7 L0 p4 pso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
$ c% Z0 b. K/ K  L# Pnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 P3 Y; ?. ^$ h( l/ }9 b& Kbro singgeihot and rest365days: r% o: Y1 v0 ?4 O- u
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics: b# E" B& ^% d2 x, A: N* B
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
. Q9 k" i3 x5 G' P7 ^1 s自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: