jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:' V2 r" C3 p- B% P0 ]' F, K
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架5 N2 d/ t; s0 g# k2 v
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! c9 q& ^+ h3 E0 S  \& G- U3 x" mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( q. ?, X8 E( x7 T6 l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 [' W& H9 F7 G- S8 |' \
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ h( ?6 _# ]& v7 F. z9 d
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & P$ \8 d8 S* @0 W5 M
but why jesus need to do this?
8 R) x- [0 h& Z9 }punsihment for what???
& O& Q% W) q' [  ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 b& |# a6 ?& [. V& btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 |1 Z0 e+ O4 H
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) L0 N& b4 e7 u5 \" M
what will u do???
0 G' X7 r2 L. q- V5 ~9 l2 ?just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:1 i" G& z& j% o- g* P& i

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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: p' R6 c2 U0 j' ]! U, G' ?咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- D& Q: U, N% {
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. v6 _/ q- P$ }, Xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 O& W( @* K7 C" z& D
why this happen? just simple........punishment& U1 M, {) y+ E& U7 I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" ?( Z# n' @& X8 f7 rbut why jesus need to do this?: g) ]/ k% y  |
punsihment for what???- G2 Z. ^3 e" r5 Y& F  d
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* \; j! P& O2 f/ O( l; y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 }. s# H- t( B* d  J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  |7 p' l% S. c0 q' v) k0 v6 r- Jwhat will u do???8 R# Z! z- s9 W, i
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 9 j2 z7 U) D6 [/ i) i, x" Q1 z

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& O- c0 H; a0 O1 k+ X8 Fsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 x5 P6 B4 ]8 t7 L& q
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) y- u- P4 m2 H0 C9 Qbro, did u know that there is a...

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( c$ P9 `3 C5 T( u2 C' Z% X* B好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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5 d) z4 ^  Y& o, i# Q) p9 V: r% s議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ q. _+ y* r- k$ J8 Z  }honestly, if there is jesus
* C9 d5 q, f* ?2 {he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( D( B) j1 D% r0 k& ~we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:/ |" h% V4 {( b% ^. D+ a
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$ O* T# ?8 S, j好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
0 C$ U; Y- ]9 u8 s8 K' Cjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) M" s6 L+ O$ \* O$ v6 Y* a+ O: ~
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
, t( c0 r: e/ f! p  T$ Mnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
9 `3 I! i7 Q* o& E8 R0 n  A, Qbro singgeihot and rest365days& {* \: g* S: @) Y% z
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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+ L" x" {% }2 h( _% A3 ]understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics1 H. K6 C% T; O! l0 x4 @( v" c
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# ?, Z6 K' _4 i7 V' y7 c自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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5 P; U0 u+ _5 H( J- k' n" o) zhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: