jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
& W3 u, U" M9 M0 h$ W1 Z仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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7 ?6 m3 I1 W" \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# L) T7 T+ ^: A. n, V0 a+ vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  U. q3 r0 b- H; w* Wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment( ~# A( m' f& @! `) L4 {
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + F, U7 l- D, w* Q1 j, R
but why jesus need to do this?0 l8 b% ]0 |& e8 ?  b+ u
punsihment for what???: v0 j7 ]7 t6 R# E, n9 O1 a- z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; M/ u# u- T7 o- ~& o4 utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) c  [: ~" _3 g1 p% N* @, ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉2 h2 q; |  j+ h  U- K% V9 s
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 V5 j  @% P2 v0 R7 W

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
5 b- z5 ?0 g$ ^; ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  s& D- L- e6 z& Ecomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 b& V- S* V" c) n1 C/ @. Z( l
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! c- L# D; z; `* ]8 v( S* hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - P9 z' Z! Y5 W; J( ~" |5 c7 K
but why jesus need to do this?; B/ b5 v# z4 J! F2 B- X6 J
punsihment for what???
! C! j8 a8 a, t% W9 \6 ?for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( {$ E; N6 R0 T+ Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! I& X7 d9 c4 S$ ]but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 l; r. v4 E6 Q  C5 s8 W
what will u do???# j2 A- u% }/ y  N2 L1 J0 x" m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ; E2 L# ?+ B8 ~4 K: |( I

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
. z& W7 k+ t2 v1 mhonestly, if there is jesus
6 t) B+ d/ g" ^/ che really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. B4 X5 s; Y& h$ ^* Ewe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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) S  F8 B5 X/ [( G; z% Ayes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 x" P5 ?8 Z" E) L) j' Y7 L
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
* G# v; K% O; @/ ~( ?4 iso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
9 Z1 {* c+ n& m; M7 ]now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 N8 h3 o) U5 b! r5 e) X; s- O
bro singgeihot and rest365days
! R$ }( k; c( I* u: _% w9 Ahonestly, if there is jesus
$ e& c5 `( h5 a/ A) ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- h% c( Z7 C% F7 \& R' u
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
. p; z: y4 ~5 J3 Y+ h! W- gotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:8 G' A  C4 A# ?: i
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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" {1 _3 j. x: g8 S7 d0 q2 c" Ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: