jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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5 c9 P7 w7 u9 r8 e, P- Z7 ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: \1 }; J( I6 F" R* t4 l% ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% k. o+ m$ q$ }0 }; w9 `7 Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment! e3 s8 B  g8 U) a7 `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) I' A! v& \2 g- hbut why jesus need to do this?
. ~% M& m% I8 f  Rpunsihment for what???
4 T! m4 T. q  a: u: nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 F4 _, Q# [( ~3 m5 X6 ?
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 D1 Q. P( K' o3 J# Abut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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& F2 [; k8 t$ C8 zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉# S  j+ W; I+ [3 X) F# b( V
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 L/ J1 U+ F& z$ m2 c1 I
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& y- I3 N4 R+ S! o2 U' f3 D: [3 B4 ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; Q+ l1 P  d2 V+ P: [why this happen? just simple........punishment
' Z7 }. g1 F; W! b2 a& f7 Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + i& n6 D6 V; ^& E7 K
but why jesus need to do this?
# G! V. {/ P* M$ K( ^punsihment for what???
7 }2 V  D, l5 b1 a2 w( _( Gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( E% n) W: S) s" ^" o
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 V* t) h+ a( g; tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( k0 R" {! E/ i2 D3 u' g$ B9 o
what will u do???% e$ R3 v/ g, X: `
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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. x. s" i6 x" u" w! z& dbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / F  g) z  w9 @4 J

' q5 R* u1 w0 V$ v7 E議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 K- c; A( o0 S
honestly, if there is jesus& S# c2 h/ t7 ~# C4 K3 d7 G: H" j
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# q  @; M9 d; V% A2 ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. a  [( }1 u1 Q; d2 Q" k9 |) Y
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8 s+ m4 |0 }  G! s" ~% e# o好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( e# {) s- S- h3 K, P/ [: E- Djust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 s7 k' b6 [; V" E7 gso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
! ?3 f2 e- u' l. H# `now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
1 ~8 x4 e* C2 q7 W. _, }1 o/ wbro singgeihot and rest365days
1 F/ z$ p. m$ D) Whonestly, if there is jesus
" P$ U3 P+ h- q3 K0 khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 J$ H2 T9 `# O) r' A5 l# u$ z
we can't blow him :cool:

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" Q2 B& t6 M* d4 S, Wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
$ ~2 ]/ c6 h  A0 ^4 Botherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 P( \$ e! I' C7 f! h0 D* Y
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: