jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- ]" Z" H; Y3 q5 g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 I" \. `: T0 [2 j% ]! ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 W) _1 f8 L. {$ g% {0 {2 C- Ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  [& m0 W  W/ R0 I9 hbut why jesus need to do this?
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" f# |+ q% x, R# hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; l; g% c, w% T9 ?try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! B4 {- L$ g4 ~) Z0 Q; L2 c+ B! cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 |( U% l9 e/ m, q1 q4 D" S" y# P
what will u do???: B* q1 y" d4 I9 Q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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4 i! l  V* V, }/ k; r, u但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排- m8 V. J, G7 y1 ]  I

, J1 M# Z& z% g$ ~咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 ^9 Z, Y4 A9 m3 ~; }
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 R. H; [2 w/ Q0 f: pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" N  J# a. h9 n9 d
why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 ?& B% L, X  bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( H6 W" i! y1 ^; Y! q
but why jesus need to do this?6 u6 @4 ~% c' R$ x  C& E% O; t
punsihment for what???
. A( I3 v% I3 H0 {4 Wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- E3 R, ?+ x! D) X8 A! b# m2 r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 X0 x9 F% D5 l! J; T
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 q# _# Q" M- t$ n5 C& }what will u do???) t* g" P2 W6 P: X5 U* S
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " K" f) A0 v3 F* k

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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1 K1 H; O% r7 c0 ?bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ ]9 S2 e) q; b) ~( I
honestly, if there is jesus
* u3 B2 p" t/ _/ i9 D( lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" j3 d4 n9 Q! h0 owe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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6 r) m# ~' o0 x( A* F' g: o* B* O. Qyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
4 w$ S* w9 c$ ^: {just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
' d6 @+ b/ H5 e1 Y3 V( Xso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" X  {4 d% W  Y6 ?8 }( a9 w
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 q' q/ V7 E: T/ s' b% H
bro singgeihot and rest365days
" Q9 M# l, C: ghonestly, if there is jesus$ B6 t3 T; Q. s1 g& ~; v$ E3 C
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 {3 n2 Y1 [. k9 V# [
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

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otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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4 ^7 s% ]( O' c! T: rhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: