jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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  ?  O, {' f0 t5 i8 dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ V/ d: ^0 f" Y- f( W, j" wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# _  A* W# G5 ^  u% Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
, @5 h/ ^7 e+ g) s8 Imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! ?6 @' _1 `' d) t$ i' E
but why jesus need to do this?( P$ f& h2 A9 a" [, d1 B$ c- L1 j
punsihment for what???- y+ _3 _* j9 d) ?
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, C) |  s: W$ N) ?$ A* R; t
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 `! ^, d+ i' P. {but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; r! U% q$ R8 n
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# {4 V2 S# v% `, ^" O$ \. D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* E3 a# y7 L3 L/ Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment9 Y2 O' R9 e8 X' r# P% S) o- Q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 [; a5 y: @3 Z4 W4 G+ h
but why jesus need to do this?
7 B0 }8 a& K( P/ G9 n" Jpunsihment for what???; w. e6 k8 v! u9 T7 q/ O2 J) ?: @
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 ~; {; ^1 L  ^" t+ Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  }* U5 r( ?1 @& K3 O3 ?+ D
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - [& m5 F8 Z; C2 W& d: J1 ~
what will u do???' d+ _5 N; z/ x( ?* N/ J4 P  I! Q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " |: `/ P- w. @( J0 t6 |0 t7 @

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; h9 b) c6 g% F5 h5 E

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6 F( @, p: a' y+ J/ b$ ~& g) Tbro, did u know that there is a...

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0 p) r: n/ M8 s( }6 q$ P5 ]好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 8 s" S( x  b0 E- @  D& H

6 c: H: w7 {! Z$ C/ D" ^- F) `7 o; w議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ W/ A( Y' f4 ]7 T" x5 v" M
honestly, if there is jesus
. x$ J5 \! G. _$ g  }1 ~he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% w* W0 a# o1 {2 ?1 N- ^
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 `' B" t2 Q2 Yjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- g3 I. C: I! M1 h% s
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ o8 e6 [2 I: B+ ?2 N( p% i' T2 C
bro singgeihot and rest365days
. e$ {( A, x7 |$ Shonestly, if there is jesus
& A3 S- z: w3 ]9 O" z# m* xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! u2 R, \: n- P! }# ^we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics  U& R/ U$ ~4 @) T7 X0 D$ [
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  h' I& z' z. `2 c* ^
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: