jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
- f' a  z' j0 z仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架6 |( e/ q) N2 z  i1 k* U! d% P
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' u5 M, K' V$ V$ C1 K
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  p1 N7 Z# S5 z, ?1 ~why this happen? just simple........punishment
. z( m( F! ^/ G7 ~! Qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 Y& {- `4 Z  @4 U& U9 C
but why jesus need to do this?& T' I0 ~0 R/ l. K8 p, v8 Y# x
punsihment for what???3 |% C) K/ l; O0 e4 d) Z* b
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ v" o1 P3 }5 R0 ]( N+ K+ Vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ p6 D& ~2 c) C7 o% Obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
. e2 o: \" g9 J# Cwhat will u do???
5 C" q1 t7 R7 y, S& Ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:7 e0 w0 U2 ~+ Z& W0 V. j3 l

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$ N" I$ I$ O: Dyes, what did u think is what i...

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. F# y7 v) K  A咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! H" f" K; l+ m6 q" m& l& E

1 [1 H) T3 N. x但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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/ j2 p7 g0 B5 D5 v. E' h咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  |; @; L, P6 q& r  n: i" T1 ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 t) @7 A$ Y3 Tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 f; G+ I) i4 R0 ~* c' }/ X; ?9 X1 Z, awhy this happen? just simple........punishment
) j7 A4 @1 {" x) t- ]) Tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * |5 p4 y) x4 e# E0 A
but why jesus need to do this?
: t! a, U. v0 W& d$ Y! v2 e( ^8 dpunsihment for what???4 _7 L6 v, s; `! \" M
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 \+ u- F/ \; |/ ^" C2 F/ Z  [! b
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 f: o6 g! T$ h; \
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, x/ G% v/ |  h* swhat will u do???" P3 [& [( M9 ^  ]! _
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 m- i: t4 e+ B! M2 j

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5 L2 {# @, b  b9 H3 j0 {bro, did u know that there is a...

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% O: v$ k$ R/ `4 t  B0 V" J0 u7 D好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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3 [" ^  I6 y% d4 B+ p議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 u! O5 G$ A+ b/ jhonestly, if there is jesus: |9 P8 c# F8 i( w# S, T  _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ J  r& @8 A& e- x
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, v- ?' M' V) T1 E

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* _- g! ~0 O; V: @4 z% k: |好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 O, ?, T3 X; Q) x
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
4 k7 \2 I% F, Y0 ~6 Aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 M7 F: O% K4 s$ [" l4 Anow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( G9 `  @2 J$ p. |' d4 u
bro singgeihot and rest365days  j7 p! a+ A; J' F3 u
honestly, if there is jesus% D  W- a6 u7 [7 f6 [, ~+ M
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- N2 t0 A$ j+ Z5 ?we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics& v# h6 R+ I, `% R0 N" X( ~
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
8 i: x4 R9 u% c0 T; u3 j4 ~4 q自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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2 Q1 H9 q+ Q0 O0 ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: