jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:, o$ J" E7 n; h4 ?
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架0 ~, m' z3 _0 ?
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 C3 m+ a. g! E
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 v% j5 e, S+ p. Q: F
why this happen? just simple........punishment& S0 L$ ~4 }3 S! F8 r6 h! U; }
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 C5 @  j- T# @# }! fbut why jesus need to do this?
: h5 [8 O0 z+ ^2 _& W: }punsihment for what???
) c# u6 G) i* Lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( k0 ?9 `! r. `try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, y4 A+ q, U9 R2 x" m
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 P: {$ i9 q0 t  I' Qwhat will u do???
$ z" E) W3 J) S" fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:: b& N# _6 J# R
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" W9 o( d( `% d% i* hyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉- o! d% a  N( T* w- G" I2 M) P
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 j9 n  V; B6 N

2 e1 G; \, P- C( ~咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
+ s- A4 z% u4 U2 _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 x. K$ F! ^1 S' Q$ J
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ F9 B$ Q" C3 j% fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
: q: Q8 ?2 q1 \0 c/ t0 amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  S3 x% E6 ^* A# r; `+ H8 s& t3 \* abut why jesus need to do this?
* T  `4 \6 M: O4 I( K. r& bpunsihment for what???
1 `+ D, d4 H6 C) Y6 i' m/ `for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ A1 E9 V$ m4 Z  M- Q7 ^: Y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. ]0 \$ G& N" bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 z$ }1 H. c. g1 ~3 K' ^* I
what will u do???: `( h6 @% F; ]8 h7 A
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 U4 F- v5 I& i1 D* T1 P# E

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- [1 Q! d/ S6 }; K  G
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$ i2 A* w; Z# u  p$ ^bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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: h; l# a3 l7 S6 g: N0 j) Z$ ~議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 j/ [; o- m7 {honestly, if there is jesus
. |3 o( x# o; p7 Zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 @; S) t3 n$ u9 V% u+ \# twe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 F  y( R/ m" f3 ^% y5 h
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
: S% b; p: @6 hjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it4 ~7 t5 |0 S0 D0 O' d& q/ y0 U
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ ~" i. I4 Y, [7 {; X
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:* D- o# t% P( z1 U6 l
bro singgeihot and rest365days
" I+ J7 k2 @# u4 S' zhonestly, if there is jesus
$ K% ~( H0 h, b% t. b3 B; p8 Bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% m. |5 l. D% Q3 t* H9 E
we can't blow him :cool:

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' h9 V2 A8 l! _; E5 d+ \$ q3 A6 D8 cunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics4 g( }3 L: j' }5 r( p
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
4 |% d# Z' V$ ?( O* l, X# ^2 L& Z& d自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: