jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
0 W/ F1 [% K* T+ p0 R  ?/ A) u仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( o) H3 T" s) D9 j) b1 K4 U* ^
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 C3 j: [" ~* p
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ N1 G; G. Z4 m% E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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punsihment for what???8 B1 h( t, O9 o
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 @# @% b- }- p0 T- u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 g  f+ X& e* B' F' i3 O3 qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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- P" b, k# h. t5 t4 V$ F1 |* g但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排3 I* I* ~/ r9 w7 y* F
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
8 x4 Z3 k' C! E- |4 @; _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ b( I, K/ j) B: x  }+ z+ b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& I% X( k0 g( s% owhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 n2 `* C& l, vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ U! _: z* O: [. s+ Kbut why jesus need to do this?
5 `2 N5 [- i! K7 Apunsihment for what???
; y$ Y1 }6 _- f* kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; J! @) I5 P; }$ I) Ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' I& P5 S& m" B# L" Q, b1 p
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 K4 f6 G, n# [, m) l8 u7 y
what will u do???$ S9 E' J$ _0 k1 a" u/ X
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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1 m1 y: _2 S9 A7 S  r+ ~. zsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: s  j) G# I" t- i% \5 M4 R

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5 \2 ?0 u( n! s, x6 B3 mbro, did u know that there is a...

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% b& K1 m  a$ x好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days$ F/ H$ ?4 j( \0 g
honestly, if there is jesus# N$ j) r( O) d! ?" d( t9 ^& F3 U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 e+ h; X  r3 K; K4 ~1 {
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 D; K! z4 x6 c0 P; j+ _& q
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ F  a% J1 m$ @: cjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
+ d" k7 x: Y. Wso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ }# ?4 Y& X4 C4 y0 l" b0 I
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
& G# ^% Z$ D+ s* E  Qbro singgeihot and rest365days
7 `0 {& J: p- R- T( Dhonestly, if there is jesus
6 i3 H. y2 l# p7 j( N6 Bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ u; i2 H0 u/ p3 P1 ?
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 J( B6 D1 {. z
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! L. w' k5 e: c. |( l5 _7 K- d; y8 k5 m
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: