jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
/ |8 Y9 ^- b# O9 z仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 o7 d+ [3 f6 M; o3 ?7 w! F
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ c$ f4 f7 g9 _& \6 X" Y' ~6 M. M6 F7 Xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
# N& W9 |7 B/ h% u2 Y6 Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' M: W3 S7 J! O2 ^5 n) Tbut why jesus need to do this?
/ r7 R- V  F! i; x" upunsihment for what???
" {7 J8 w( f! N# Z( Gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, q6 X! _9 Z3 W0 _1 l- Ltry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# E9 X: d( s6 d, }0 ]6 X: h+ Xbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 E: I- I" u- M) n$ W
what will u do???
4 h, o' {, ?5 n, L2 m- [+ S& jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ G  \. H. s5 M: e7 r9 F

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3 a+ f  \- Y- y- c, g# H2 Q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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+ Z& \$ q- Z; L, a# c' j+ C但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排  i2 G* c% Q9 G3 b* m

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 h9 m3 [, r) b; Y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 A( j3 k+ m/ E: X: Fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 e; E, H5 K9 I8 N1 g6 U% I6 l
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ c. W! e  u* h* S9 G% ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, _- h( H7 s/ J  Obut why jesus need to do this?
" ^* n& k6 ~2 Xpunsihment for what???
2 g; V% U' h. @! j8 G4 L# d& p" Pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! Y$ ?* A* p1 ^+ k: ]try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" I5 }; n; e: d8 X9 y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! M$ Z; w5 _* J* O' u
what will u do???
4 W/ q3 G) c/ l, u5 v% I7 o! F& yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 A. Q: ?% Z; j* {5 X7 u3 D

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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: t9 M! J. w( l好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
& h/ x: k8 i* M5 U8 q0 M- _' fhonestly, if there is jesus
6 I8 ~. r( g4 n$ the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ @2 Y  q( J8 D: ywe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life: {" A& [5 Q, g4 H; a
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
8 }, ?8 G7 Y! e2 L$ u% W9 o6 g- |& Yso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
9 V3 T: V1 k+ i, a% Z8 C+ ]now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( a! }7 w+ f8 b4 ^3 A
bro singgeihot and rest365days% i8 c! A) F- D* x: @
honestly, if there is jesus/ v8 j! x. r' }2 C" M
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; Q6 T3 d! w# h5 ?3 o( z, g
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
: K  f9 u, n0 U7 S8 b' Xotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- S: r, B  j  e% n
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. c2 s* s  n# u- a& S6 ^; Thaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: