jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 p7 g& ~" I4 {3 i/ e- A
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架: @2 b* T) j9 [3 f4 c# u! v7 V
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- O% J& b$ l- E6 R. h' q+ E2 q- Cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 U( [! N0 E5 X6 _comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ d) W0 N: }5 ~why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ Y3 g, z. K2 X* @many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # ]) r, |) l6 k0 r' g0 D
but why jesus need to do this?
1 Q/ c5 H7 C0 v8 ~punsihment for what???, ~, L+ q; Z, L' F
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 g' I. ^! v+ x! x4 g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; M" _- G) M6 Q  |1 w4 o% v' X; Hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   L) m6 i. D- A, c, U
what will u do???
2 H- n2 p1 ?2 Tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:. v+ `0 t' T5 C3 ~2 m) X1 s
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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  ]1 q* `" \3 s9 @但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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0 M, _) P1 I. t. h3 [, v咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
0 \" z2 [% p2 zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' @) E* n) M* t; J
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& m/ M, P: t5 H3 I( F
why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ y! F( Y. A  ]7 Omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 A" q# \! [$ r. h) o9 k6 S) X4 }but why jesus need to do this?8 p4 i/ k: b( `7 e/ _
punsihment for what???& t+ K4 u+ T( b
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) F/ t% H, H2 o
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: }9 c' J1 r" b* zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! \$ W: f9 ?: P& u9 O% U% Q
what will u do???
+ c) l* X( y6 Rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" s; i) b; B7 `; ~6 }6 y, A6 I
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 # d9 |% y2 C0 K2 t9 d% x; `8 N

9 T/ v- Q3 S% W  m+ k' x議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days* k' q! C: D5 i- s- r
honestly, if there is jesus% u0 O$ e) z" l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- |* C; s5 c7 f, U' Q- Z; @
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ c* j, Q" c4 u  _
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# M8 c8 X$ c/ R& s0 b$ I& ^好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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; Y, c% N, \; d2 dyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 I, ]0 x. R* s9 `, D% k* j8 I
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# M' M9 J: r, p) Kso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 d" `3 A. o! |; T2 q
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
0 {- A0 {. w8 @. m  Hbro singgeihot and rest365days
8 N  O3 U* W5 m+ U3 k0 ^, Hhonestly, if there is jesus
1 g* v$ f8 v/ ?# c8 Z/ T: Ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
  d- X4 a' M" w+ J' f3 H/ aotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# ~: Z' h! r* p5 w2 x自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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: {9 j) k% s0 \, `! phaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: