jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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6 Z# H8 Y9 i) k" `9 \; ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' T' n( e) z# ^7 Dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ c% y- P# c# a+ K+ j( p% Pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment; i$ }- j7 M0 [# u, u
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - i2 ^' e7 d7 Z, E
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* y3 a! C6 Q/ a9 V) `try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 `; r+ z, ^7 D1 ^1 a/ Z" ?but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 x; }1 T' T8 v5 T/ ?4 ~what will u do???
) Q7 I' s* g, y5 Z' w# {/ xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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5 K. [/ `$ X0 p8 I: N; ~5 yyes, what did u think is what i...

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8 ]; _4 d- W2 }7 V4 W咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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: l! r$ F5 F& x# D: R) j2 H但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" {1 x; T4 ]/ a9 {) x  Z

3 X4 p/ `( s' a咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
7 b" k4 {( e, ~/ \! Qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 i$ d6 E) I" W5 Q  E
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' c  G; Z9 |; @( d) q! G' ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment4 `, t2 G! t$ {$ H6 \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* w4 T5 i: I# o9 \4 P: F% @$ D6 {( vbut why jesus need to do this?
8 F5 P/ P8 X: G. Vpunsihment for what???' e+ V( _+ J0 }# N0 u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! H' w8 }5 L, [1 V2 U4 O* o. Ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 P* ~2 K' e" J3 s+ W' m9 Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 r; f5 |9 A7 G/ r4 s" W4 Q7 hwhat will u do???& B5 ~, P+ u' H& h9 T0 m2 n( B; z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, * }  P8 x8 g% C* u

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& P' e6 w, x3 @sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  `1 A2 ~6 N7 n8 ]" y' h9 `

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8 C/ P+ Y8 F* P) b( Q- ~bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days& t, E5 J4 V; |8 Z- s  B: I6 h
honestly, if there is jesus
; R, G3 ]/ Y; A: zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; C- `$ h- I+ k( T+ F
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 g( o0 w8 G& w) k8 y% y& Q1 x% G
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& ~0 j( K: q3 k- c: ^
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 Q! \! L# e4 ^: J1 Y# b
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 H) s% U6 F5 j! }1 @; z
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! _; x; s9 H% I/ `8 h" vbro singgeihot and rest365days% t9 b- p0 P4 P' H: t2 \& |9 V
honestly, if there is jesus
5 R; b( F9 u. [  m; _9 ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ }* \. U0 r% t( S& l
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 {0 R$ m0 i. H& R: Votherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! c7 |2 ~8 m/ F# w8 `
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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% J. b$ e$ X. q3 D$ y0 vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: