jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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, p" P, a: w+ t& \) qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ ^2 x. M1 E9 ?# t2 |
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ c8 t3 |/ o( }3 ]; w+ j( @# @2 l
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! Y, J# c( E  j& N; }+ U- V5 Qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 R. k0 h% O0 f& y2 M: Abut why jesus need to do this?
% s$ F* n( r# v" q4 Y& N. B; Epunsihment for what???
0 r6 y  G( {( p" {% d& nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; O: z( e9 Q' F" ]6 q% G
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 @6 V! i1 w6 B0 ^) A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' w; U3 x$ |: Q  `* y
what will u do???/ [+ t7 c9 n; i7 m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉0 K4 a2 f4 b" f0 C
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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# |! z1 x2 E; D; f1 I+ }咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' W% T! a# [6 D3 @2 U
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, e" V) Z9 m5 P3 c; ]comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) D8 m/ r+ s1 d, @: O! Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
. E5 `6 a8 }! u$ B; S6 H3 hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- z" a9 Y% }5 s: s; B( Pbut why jesus need to do this?
( M' J# g7 ^& x- r% q, Epunsihment for what???& J4 }: m* a! _$ R# p( z; k' N
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 O' e9 j7 a' a- \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 q1 L) O( P. g4 u" d# b5 ^* S7 N6 ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) k; W1 N. o! h4 v; g
what will u do???
( o3 [3 X0 S: i- \$ l# bjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 5 _* a1 C' O' T/ b; f6 H

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: X$ \6 O! O9 s4 v$ d% _+ Gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# x2 x  D6 P7 Z+ {8 u
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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( p0 \; \9 ]. z" }# C好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: L9 k6 e- X3 D3 V- D3 }honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:! g+ c/ |/ A/ ~2 z

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
! e! Y9 Z  G/ ~9 Zjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
" h9 T/ O+ I+ e5 C* O+ }! Jso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 I5 C1 m# w* ^7 ?3 U, mnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% {+ H5 [. D! e  t2 R
bro singgeihot and rest365days; g7 m1 A$ A  ]: F3 Y$ K$ {
honestly, if there is jesus
( B7 t; l0 U2 s4 Y) phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus1 `( u, D6 A8 \, o( [( a' _& X
we can't blow him :cool:

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) n2 b6 `. u" r. P! F) ~9 w: r2 Eunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 K9 x: @6 T) k, V% \" e' e
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:0 ]5 j5 x6 x! q6 k
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: