jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) `4 |2 R/ I2 \. _  S/ P" S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; E# n) f$ V* L" q# l+ |" V: @+ `
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) Y( t  m* U. c$ F9 t. lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ u/ n& D* G0 Dbut why jesus need to do this?/ ?& m8 F* K6 C( a. ?
punsihment for what???
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& d1 ?7 {) Y3 B0 d5 k" h* rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# x# m1 w8 m8 c" n* t5 Mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 G, N6 U; \  a8 B$ \+ I
what will u do???
- o7 h% b, z1 ^" W: S5 v& Tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- i" T+ o! T4 ~4 b
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 X: g* G4 I; q8 s; o% H4 U

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ O+ }) d% q1 S2 E6 D7 Q( O, T4 X4 }
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) B4 w+ I. X7 V" ~) A& G; S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' W- J3 O% n% U; y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& Z4 f8 r; m$ s1 y- Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ J/ @% ]* Y+ kbut why jesus need to do this?9 w: T  e% _9 P! ?' E
punsihment for what???
* }5 M/ E- i) O! I1 w$ mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" j; Z$ ?( Q6 \' E. Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 q  q4 R1 @3 c" o8 e) e3 S. l
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 }" G  {' b* q! Q" r+ _7 `what will u do???
. U# \* n0 X# z" j$ bjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 h4 E6 Z: T( R+ P7 m) ]3 I% U

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9 |! c7 n. X: p7 n% Z% asorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ F2 K1 d8 k1 L6 Z6 o6 F
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& W. H' J5 n4 Z4 S( L好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! T8 {+ u$ T# i  ]
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days& g, S9 ?* u) S9 C
honestly, if there is jesus8 k( J8 @- o: ~
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 B. l4 m( f$ A( G' X% I- t; f0 k0 awe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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( {: g6 O7 y3 F- X1 f; d好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ O% _, N; K" G- _* q0 W4 hjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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0 j" F$ F: |3 e' F9 x2 z2 ?now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, r4 }$ J& N( o$ t- l9 z' A
bro singgeihot and rest365days
! z6 R; N! O4 J4 _honestly, if there is jesus% P* [. `/ G/ s
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& g$ V3 k6 i" C; A/ p
we can't blow him :cool:

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5 N3 P% [2 T1 v( hunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics. \, u* b$ R" F6 e- o' }
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) s" A6 B  l5 l3 u* H8 w
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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