jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
$ L( Y5 u. \# {7 q7 L  B8 K0 o3 }仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架2 v3 g& T8 r% R
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 A4 T6 U8 g. ^6 mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( i# V9 ?: d  @3 a& E' Ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment  F8 t) k0 Q7 v; U9 h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! Q  Q: K) m# z2 {but why jesus need to do this?
) [3 P; f+ t( a* D" D/ I, d% |, Wpunsihment for what???
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# @8 I5 A! [+ R) utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 D2 f5 N  o0 n/ S- @. |0 Obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 H5 ?% X) n6 N
what will u do???
! r$ i% H$ v8 C4 n: ~8 U6 C: Jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- J0 A" ^" O8 `" m
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% @  l  `- e: N: G% b7 T. |* n咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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) D4 ^" g, P% W+ P( B5 {但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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5 G. Z4 s  L6 T* _, [4 Q8 {咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( Q6 N) R5 q$ S, X" ]$ V- ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 G  C  i  A/ B7 z; W
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) g3 P0 s; X3 h8 W
why this happen? just simple........punishment) |% h! ^  {. B/ \% K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ S+ |; R# @$ p9 r# _/ w3 vbut why jesus need to do this?0 s. Y4 ]' q! o3 [" q$ m
punsihment for what???
! M/ q7 `* a. f! ?, n( S$ J, ]9 jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. n6 L. l, {9 j0 j' g5 Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. J9 ]; p) ~" k& k/ nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 n* ]( A: H4 ~3 m! ~) w
what will u do???3 v% l6 p- d- U* A3 A7 j% W/ Q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 W2 q# J! c1 i" \/ {/ N. L" W

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' l/ a/ h/ J" f5 r) [, u' P4 B/ t
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$ g, c7 a  M3 x3 V* p/ M- nbro, did u know that there is a...

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# e0 u2 E! G/ l7 g" N好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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7 m$ c, g' |: e8 H1 N6 N, X/ @議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, D; |0 E/ ~# Y( V  Ghonestly, if there is jesus0 o" N/ L1 a! J, Q* f: m7 ?
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" g7 u( N! R( {4 @8 T
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# _$ E/ b* b0 W4 t8 z7 m$ N
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it* N, {5 ^$ Z0 O# C
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......# N% ?6 b" Q; G$ b- K$ H; F
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
- T: z, b# A% T1 qbro singgeihot and rest365days
. W( b$ \0 O, @$ ihonestly, if there is jesus2 ]& T% k* M; |5 s) c
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% F8 N0 q) S8 q4 I2 L" P
we can't blow him :cool:

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' T4 o' F9 t. [: ^0 O! sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
0 k/ |6 d$ C7 O' @otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:. O0 y! T! }$ F. U% D: L% ]: |
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: