jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:6 U' q3 K$ \" c/ N8 y' _$ o
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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% I- F" s7 c& p. a+ kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 m$ Y/ m1 l7 W, zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 A5 m$ e9 Q5 {, \+ X, \, u
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: V2 ?# I1 H5 zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  A9 U1 P/ V6 \: Fbut why jesus need to do this?: r/ ^& e: C+ i
punsihment for what???4 P8 g" @  z  Z) r/ y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 {4 P" W- F3 ^2 R2 K* V  ^
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' L$ r. [, ~) }but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # q/ u3 L, J3 ^, ]6 |( D
what will u do???
0 G$ X; z4 @' C% ]1 E( |just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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6 S  `9 A* ~5 N4 f2 R+ ^' b5 oyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; x4 v9 W" x" |+ `. A
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% m5 E3 P- B1 U6 n  Z) W) ?3 J
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ Q* s4 J7 ^9 q: y8 {3 _
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ R4 \1 g% Q0 z: T( q; _1 E- ]6 Vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 ]  B1 M5 K. d0 _, w# z7 m5 K1 a
why this happen? just simple........punishment( v! Y3 q7 p% @1 ^( g7 E" Z0 r
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / V& K% [" p0 @
but why jesus need to do this?# P$ q& ^, _' g9 O, l
punsihment for what???
5 I7 |  L$ t! D3 l1 g- Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* {' R5 e, L4 o1 J6 g; jtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 Q2 W% O6 P- R' M* @* O9 zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
- Z6 I( M) F- b- G; Z: n5 Awhat will u do???
$ F% |. _3 C. _9 W! W8 ljust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ' @0 d/ U' u! H

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: p  T2 `9 C, }sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 L6 f* @; o) N* Y, x9 I& E; C

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) m/ s# T& V" {$ R6 n好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " _# E" O. U" S2 U8 c! r1 u$ b( j

* Y" o1 B" _$ |- Q0 W2 w& \議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days% S4 d: z. G3 K9 G" m6 z
honestly, if there is jesus/ ~" G0 s& z! q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% b/ t4 N( T' L& G3 jwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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% j7 ~9 u; U1 \- o& V3 lyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& V7 _7 Q0 I# F, F: o) C5 ]
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
7 {" k6 ~" _7 T# I' E( n' F$ p" p+ eso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......7 j6 o- u+ h: ]( O7 @
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:/ E* b: R$ L) {6 \" m* M
bro singgeihot and rest365days: o4 c; ?  `( x: R4 n6 F9 ?
honestly, if there is jesus' {3 ]7 _+ ~  v$ Y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 \( s& `2 B8 D; s: P. I) Jwe can't blow him :cool:

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% C6 X1 p& |( p7 \. ^, l6 Munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
9 X0 ]* }  {+ R5 [! U& ]otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
/ l7 r4 V' v2 [* V" Q& h自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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" C& q7 F$ p5 E7 ], H/ Ehaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: