jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:5 u3 H, J5 w% m, j
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架& {7 M$ N: ?6 |" W) w
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& l, Y  V5 J5 k3 Mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! M8 g, ]1 u3 c2 s0 twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
/ `% {4 @9 j  _/ `4 Wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) R* c& v% l  a4 g/ [' Kbut why jesus need to do this?# g3 L. {/ W7 w
punsihment for what???
! A0 {; H4 o/ K4 M2 wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- s8 F& `0 Y0 z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 i* o# Q! v6 Q4 V: P" a9 dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ u4 t! _' I9 R( \' K$ ~what will u do???) }3 m6 _& Y/ a) d6 D$ o) a
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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1 `+ A7 v% D; w! t+ g咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. S' I4 D2 e; H8 Y" A% _' `) u" y
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( Z& Q. w: Y# N, ^& L
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( p3 \. q$ l& }: d( m. |0 x8 P
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 L/ W/ }6 |3 G( ~comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 Z( V6 n' u& Y! ?) j7 k( l
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ C3 y4 ~8 g# \& G+ _& z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' i1 E( p8 _: J* A: Hbut why jesus need to do this?
" k6 ?5 Q) C5 E6 q2 j& |+ e! |7 H, Jpunsihment for what???
( E& u* n9 a7 T4 C. d) |6 ^for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( m( ]+ m, @/ F5 W3 `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: h4 v! m$ `" ^, wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 J8 @& _# H: t2 B. O
what will u do???5 ^7 j0 r+ C( j9 o9 J
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ {. p" s- T/ S

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' d& \* C4 @+ B$ S4 L5 g+ A+ }
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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5 u0 q7 F: @) X* Q# U5 `好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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# `: Q0 o: n4 O$ D7 U8 O+ W0 ]議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, H& Q7 k/ o! k# ghonestly, if there is jesus; K0 H& }# |9 _/ {. r2 ^9 v9 T) x3 P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% X3 A7 \: R2 E! e1 v2 Ywe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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7 C( C( d6 W9 d' @yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
9 m+ ?7 Y9 V  H, m$ t4 v6 y0 L& l1 xjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# c8 j# l( }6 A0 Pso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
, D/ w" @+ a; ]$ a, ?! B3 wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:" |' Q: i+ |1 P4 f) i
bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 ?2 t+ c1 A8 l* f) w% Shonestly, if there is jesus6 B  k1 _+ x# X
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 y2 X5 B3 a/ g5 p% R7 Dwe can't blow him :cool:

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; x# c( q: U+ L& aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics& g+ F( u- z$ r) r6 J$ D
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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7 a( }* _5 o: j5 |/ c. i. Shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: