jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:1 Z9 Y' W' e) H" E9 f/ [" y* D. v
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" S9 |' K+ Q& [+ I8 J
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 \: F; q: j! y1 a
why this happen? just simple........punishment, t; h7 H! {. _" X5 {* N/ ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - V. ~5 i2 ^/ R# v- b4 ]
but why jesus need to do this?
$ L9 L: v7 F# i  fpunsihment for what???4 K5 n  d$ X" V3 _
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' H$ B/ s# H$ w( K6 V3 Atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ d* J; j% m' Y4 ~, _
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - W; y" d1 h; |7 r/ P
what will u do???# S4 k4 |9 O6 o3 x8 `9 m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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) {+ E' u% `% ^4 H5 i3 q9 kyes, what did u think is what i...

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5 o. `1 w# @1 W& U咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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2 j- ?2 z2 r9 l但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排. a  U6 I+ h% x4 s& c

- ]% }2 m9 ~2 T- K# k咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! k6 x3 n$ `8 }) N$ {2 `
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* c6 i4 l4 W+ S' n4 }- Q- |comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ E. ^2 B7 ?) Q7 d
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ O# K8 p, J( U5 V: I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + \% A# Z( e5 s0 _* p( f7 E: P5 L( ~
but why jesus need to do this?
7 f  ~; t3 v9 ~4 U: D3 mpunsihment for what???' U7 W) r% ^2 p: H3 y! f
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% Y# ?7 ~( \) c& B3 Owhat will u do???) o, ]. t9 z# C0 P
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ; M2 \1 s) m1 G2 q- r% }

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3 E& C5 ?2 B3 V1 [  Csorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 }0 S0 S6 p- c好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : D$ s+ j3 R! `( G2 ~! q3 V

( }6 R8 x2 Q! p( ^議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
) o4 J3 p+ o! I  I6 }& N- Q0 qhonestly, if there is jesus! G$ x/ M& {; q. q, \7 Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  C. A' H+ u7 `* l! c/ \4 i4 s/ ewe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& n8 Q8 a, ]+ g$ y
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it! ^2 K- ~, j, h2 a* j& F% ^7 E( {
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
$ ]1 t  P) S: I1 n8 i. Rnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 v" K: R+ \6 G7 a2 f3 G
bro singgeihot and rest365days& F- u" w3 E: B. G# a
honestly, if there is jesus
" m2 e: ~4 z1 q4 fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics" V6 Q1 f. k' o: G
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: