jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:, h! D. A. I( _! N
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架" \7 B% H/ E6 h# `0 S' O( ~1 M
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* C0 \$ N2 I2 C  M2 I% ^1 U' ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" n: J6 L! L! q  ^4 }' |" Jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, P. m6 h, \2 |
why this happen? just simple........punishment; }* D$ z( ]6 C
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 m" U& F! ]! w0 ~
but why jesus need to do this?+ a1 E; Y" l2 r2 r- H' \& X
punsihment for what???; h4 f0 B7 M. K( l2 l5 o3 }* H( q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 W$ c5 c- `! E# G
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 [2 N; H2 J* p# H$ N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, w9 K& w6 y7 b& W. Z$ E! Gwhat will u do???% u, o2 u/ d3 _2 S% M
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 f. W+ V. I" T) Q* H

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉( t  }3 {% x0 e4 l  I8 k
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
- r! M/ S4 l- h) T0 ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* U- F  t+ _7 \* r. ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; h; S: `/ ~" \8 {  Pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment& p, e% Z$ S( I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 v4 \) O8 }6 dbut why jesus need to do this?
1 E: g" r" Y( Fpunsihment for what???
' v- A) i6 j6 k& r* m# E  t+ i7 Lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ S/ N6 v$ J3 S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 p* b2 c$ E$ E* r: p$ _0 A9 Qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , O. x# s4 k2 G$ Z9 E- d8 Y, Q
what will u do???
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. {: }/ M4 {, l# usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! J/ I# R3 L9 s& U/ }$ w- d% j5 X
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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4 C  Q, g1 O2 R1 U* J. m$ M好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ' W/ Y2 W8 |0 M2 d% h
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days& z) G6 `# M% x4 M
honestly, if there is jesus
5 X; _8 k' I* d  M& ]he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 `* v3 L5 F0 g. d" Y
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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6 a+ P1 [" {2 n5 B1 \yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( u0 o( n4 |# {" V
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 Z4 `" g8 o% M6 r. ^$ Oso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......6 e5 H& V, N+ z$ z; z
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 |' T- M0 I; A$ F& j( ]6 @+ P
bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 S1 y2 _, k3 _! d- z$ S- h# hhonestly, if there is jesus
7 P& l- |/ h% q+ i( }he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- R% L* z; [+ [- R. _we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
& ~& `  j9 o1 I. H. U9 V自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: