jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 Z- p4 H! z) G* }# o; v! }+ H仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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, A& \2 F5 a9 Z: c8 Z8 i4 u5 P& dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 Z) b$ z, y. i, k! S: Q6 `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* K/ I4 S  A6 E# F1 Q
why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ [2 f* U) _( t* S* T3 \many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" g) D( H( M7 p) m+ m5 Qbut why jesus need to do this?
0 g. e& Q! |, v2 ^" t3 spunsihment for what???& T! x# U# P3 H5 }+ ~
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% `# [( J! X5 I0 ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ r6 }1 Q+ D& O# U/ t9 X% z! C6 sbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 f5 M# N. Z! @( L1 E
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉" c- Z/ E; Z! h
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) X" V5 D( y# w1 k3 @9 H6 e" b

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
7 c% \/ E8 ]  `; ]! ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. O) }) P1 j2 g, r% ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 |3 g9 S- K7 R9 h, e% dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment! X+ G/ s: l5 y9 v. ?
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- k9 U% l; r) J: X- S% V5 b5 S+ p( rbut why jesus need to do this?
' D4 t# s- z# t1 B- kpunsihment for what???- N! h; k$ @1 I
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 X+ y8 B6 }5 X" \1 B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" U/ i" c5 p2 [! }% x+ f# ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 f) A1 R& ?# Y% k0 N
what will u do???
# D/ D- ~8 j. d, I4 g7 Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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5 m( [/ N/ [9 b* ksorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 g& X" S) W8 }, |( }

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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; ~/ ^; n( N" v. W7 m% U議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" R) R% Y3 `, A6 R2 p6 F9 }1 {honestly, if there is jesus9 ^9 Z4 B- ^+ W2 ?# v" M+ k
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( d4 K1 v- `3 j! ?% W" ]' N
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* l1 v' q  V2 D0 g& g

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& ^! n: h/ a' m" U, C
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: V& X# f+ ^5 R
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
; y- t2 s$ }/ d' N/ J" }1 @now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ g5 {% F: K: x& t0 }
bro singgeihot and rest365days
" ?9 Z; H1 N0 }1 b* i8 thonestly, if there is jesus% f) l* O1 L" N2 \' n$ d+ \" }) e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 N* q4 i: z0 t8 z; ~/ u: Owe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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em.. i think it's good to back to topics& f8 Y4 C3 y4 a. Q
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ ?* N; b+ E2 X% E
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: