jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ @: Q% h; L8 b* g
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架4 k2 U/ w0 o1 J% M6 ?5 T
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3 Z% B7 P" m* Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 j" c! o: g1 W. V0 ^+ g  F" x9 m- G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( c8 O7 C* {% Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment' J% o; h* _. m
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 Y# t* v( t5 C9 I! Jbut why jesus need to do this?
5 c" q% g( l( @6 Upunsihment for what???
0 k. l" F  D. P. B7 f$ cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* n  F) A9 V& P  U% Ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 m% v6 \4 \. R# p  `' R" Ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / H* p4 m% j+ e" }! I9 z' s
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:, b' e7 G9 e3 C- ]3 T; L# I
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* g$ }0 V2 \# zyes, what did u think is what i...

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( o# c! t: P/ E. m# A( n( s咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; F& O8 l; P9 P8 d4 n: A/ O
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; o* q1 Y4 b( ?9 k, ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- A: H9 o5 @# T5 }# e( |3 N& `
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" y! U- s% d7 [" ?  {
why this happen? just simple........punishment" v7 d, I% q9 }' k" A2 {. p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 E" v0 |" W- b2 O& ?
but why jesus need to do this?  M. f2 q6 E* o9 S( Z$ B
punsihment for what???. M9 `- J' D9 u$ N
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 T; q# s. n! u. P! }$ M1 h2 D
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) ?" L' I! Y. Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ q# G8 F4 t2 R7 fwhat will u do???
1 q4 }; T7 n0 q0 Z2 Z- |just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, # m6 a. r' v  g2 F$ b1 {

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& N) c8 P- O% t/ y. T" Asorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) m8 O1 H& w. X

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' A( `  q) z4 w' A8 l: z: B$ n, p! @bro, did u know that there is a...

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' t2 F5 U2 K8 T6 P1 U好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
* o& l( X( I9 O: A, U3 a3 lhonestly, if there is jesus
. o$ a7 j2 i! Y4 t; `: {5 q! {he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# v; {- d6 k" j7 ~
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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  Q6 C* T" Q* w& ]yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life% @: l; N; Q) b8 V# E- C
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
1 F0 k& l* J9 V9 `2 dbro singgeihot and rest365days
3 G* B! Z' ~: X( t0 k8 @, [honestly, if there is jesus
/ ~/ s, k  O0 che really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" E( q' i. H) t$ ?we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
; j- k, A7 s7 w8 C" ?, Eotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
4 ~' r; I( M! B" Z, g7 A自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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; j9 w/ p5 B7 F% x+ V5 fhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: