jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:% A3 r( J0 g5 X+ j. h
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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& |+ v$ X( ?, Y, C) q  `- ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- z& |$ {' ^, \9 \8 p4 F
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ D3 B- A- N& k, F% X
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: @3 v. ?3 o" {  D+ t# ~2 bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / d" n2 ]9 w1 H# A4 Q
but why jesus need to do this?9 d/ ~4 m2 Y+ I7 X- {- A
punsihment for what???$ c6 b1 [  x- [# _, N4 P
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 z2 d& ~9 F' Z+ t/ U4 [' N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! ~8 V0 O$ h/ o% d4 ^' ]% q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 A4 }  M! [: r/ N. T. z
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 R  F" J3 B  J8 @: h2 U* l
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 R: W; j1 n0 Y# P: Y2 Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 p* \9 K, D% f) O! z
why this happen? just simple........punishment: @9 a1 s  F$ l; |5 j/ M7 A& _& {* G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 Z$ g1 r4 t& T9 `3 [# Ebut why jesus need to do this?
% R" N1 F3 P" s& r# {; C7 Q- Mpunsihment for what???
/ X: F( v3 b, Y% N$ [0 efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  h+ n8 g9 }0 c/ ~, ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! B* @* @) \  a% r1 S/ cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 ]& ^, r) G" u3 Q
what will u do???+ ^( w" n( n: z; L/ \8 Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, ?& }. n" ~: i

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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9 S4 |$ G/ Y( _  I議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 Z# W) _. P& R' |1 h& D
honestly, if there is jesus( P* z1 b0 w8 G
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life+ r  N2 t6 `* u; ^, l* T( s
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
$ o. D% u8 o; C3 [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 J* `1 j) H3 F3 h6 S5 ]we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( q6 l, K4 C6 T* I
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: