jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ P9 ]' _5 U" p2 J0 ]4 l8 d9 \! [. X
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ q: l; D# ]! T! f2 Cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
* M# F7 p% f0 E  r' i# z& }8 L4 Pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 x1 x" l, A- S6 j7 e
but why jesus need to do this?+ ?; A. H/ w  B9 i" @9 d1 c5 l& R
punsihment for what???) E$ j5 G/ r  x, b" s; @- ]
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ h* u% ]% l' U" }/ W6 b1 M0 \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 l, s$ F% F. B" B* K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 A0 X  D$ w' ]2 X

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( A8 ~- H3 b; k: i5 s5 gyes, what did u think is what i...

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/ X1 @7 a. C- d2 B  C. ]咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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" [7 |  D) e* `" v1 z; J: G* c5 m% \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 r6 ]. i4 `) A
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 U& q) n8 _/ G' k8 ~) ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ R+ B, K1 ^" ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. R$ h2 w* {* o  r1 w. a' N! v
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& i& }- t- d& b3 j3 `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . r4 J; x9 H8 K: |/ O" Q
but why jesus need to do this?. B/ q& K1 ~$ t9 Q$ n+ G9 Q' j; d
punsihment for what???1 G4 _- s- T" |% b6 h7 @
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& d) @) J2 r; u- O& g1 {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ Q' d4 I* u) Y, z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   p  a9 T: x8 _6 X# }1 S. N6 C
what will u do???' ^! D6 v; s) r( P6 M
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ; F; w: X" v8 s: {6 `. H( S

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; D$ j4 |; c3 ]4 A8 L& ^5 Usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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3 `6 s  P% P0 ?bro, did u know that there is a...

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! Z4 H& `; a: @8 i6 [好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / P% \7 n) P8 b

; Q# r3 y( X' @' V' H. L議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days# P7 v+ i' F( _5 y2 |6 V
honestly, if there is jesus& b( j7 h/ u0 ^& p+ C- n
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 w" `4 `  h& |  y2 @! X" s6 s
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ ?# l0 t/ F4 Z1 j

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6 [, J, }, u2 A1 z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- i. O) e7 x4 P: \just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
% H1 a, z# ^0 f7 s& s! W, b% f! aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......6 h$ V8 P  R) Y, P+ m/ B8 \0 t
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# R  K) Z- d% e' u1 s6 O
bro singgeihot and rest365days
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8 m" [& g9 f6 x) B7 ]7 {% U3 The really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- v- p. ~# x( O1 @3 _6 i
we can't blow him :cool:

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0 t6 M- ^' x: junderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
  t9 m! R/ w/ Yotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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1 M8 @7 m& I, x* {( X9 s1 h7 `haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: