jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* }5 C; Y. T6 Y* z( j% b
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架- r& Q9 Q1 V5 I3 g0 |/ }) s2 G
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9 ]8 V" P% i8 ]$ L8 k; Hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# [9 F7 Z# _" S2 h/ {- m0 Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* w# H# s' k, l! e4 Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment+ r# h" a( c# b4 h% q5 m
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( r6 l" x/ }7 d$ M# M% A) wbut why jesus need to do this?) t% S' A7 x1 m: w
punsihment for what???3 x, V1 S( D0 K0 A
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 H# O# d9 ?) l! `try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 D/ P- h. X" H( Obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 j+ K7 E5 `0 S! s7 T
what will u do???
+ O6 h# L( \# Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 N; I$ o* f2 P: x* Q2 @% e' D+ z
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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( |/ t% ~, W" \  `  ^- U但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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4 R, L1 r  E; r$ r2 P5 ]% ?! Q咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
0 @: X$ I8 s- y8 H2 |bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& ~0 m6 G9 f9 p& ?3 m, t$ O
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) k$ m9 I& N3 k0 ]* T0 o& @0 h# Dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
% N2 `9 d0 R% W) y+ ~7 U$ R0 fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# h* @" i' |+ Q$ q. E7 A: ybut why jesus need to do this?6 I! Q, V0 C/ o9 l+ {+ o1 I
punsihment for what???
  K& q, m) k  B  _6 d0 cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! p, s2 R7 z+ S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' m1 a$ ~1 S0 U6 o  ]& F1 a
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ z% U" {( b- L, o
what will u do???3 l& v6 s/ x4 _* {! O
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / m% ^; U) I5 ]$ Q8 H6 y1 f

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! l) Y3 G. E9 \
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- i, C1 T7 \/ p- _& p8 @1 I; pbro, did u know that there is a...

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; {: z  l0 i& I. Q; S% q好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- m! H, x: {( l! d2 }/ s
honestly, if there is jesus
% h( j* l) R: {& P( L5 @9 c2 I6 Phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 h! [/ m" }' K: }7 h% W3 F& x( l
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 }4 t, }, {: V

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- k4 {- s& l- ~6 a+ w& U8 T好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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' {8 y- W4 p: |) x+ n8 p) d/ i* @/ Dyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
' D: U9 E& M/ h/ E) V) @; i. C2 zjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
* Z4 F0 j" d* L$ O: K+ ~so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
  B2 V, \# v5 Pnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  m9 \: D4 z7 Z! U/ V7 @( L
bro singgeihot and rest365days$ n3 s) J  A  P" o4 ~* |0 V
honestly, if there is jesus/ a+ d4 R$ J$ y- Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  f; i( e, _: y) i+ d* Awe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 l0 x# U4 q1 h9 F, h8 i# Jotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:8 P3 |6 k1 j% k0 T$ q
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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: V. P% |( o' I3 }. ahaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: