jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
0 q) n4 E4 o; _! N) a仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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& a: h/ @3 o9 |) |3 bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 x, E3 n1 n& M7 C% v
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! U2 X. D! h# ?$ W% m
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: `  }, D  D" e+ N' \- C$ Y( ~# Mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  e, Z/ G" n6 W1 Y" i7 Fbut why jesus need to do this?
* O, z3 j4 Q& W( O+ Lpunsihment for what???
( L: ]' `4 `4 }$ ^" ?* Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# W5 c# Z" Z2 E, d: K  utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' p) s( h& D8 x& g: xbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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$ p5 d- @2 L) F7 }" T1 c+ ^just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:. e( g1 U  Y. ]5 D" w6 J
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉7 W: \- r% [. L

9 R" @" u+ z( U, P' ?但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 l- I% b6 \; K1 w7 ?0 B  `
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 C$ X  U% q% Y5 K3 Y6 C8 g, tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* s5 _! n. d7 H, M. pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 o( ~1 p+ d6 ]: vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , N0 }" E; n8 D) ~  k' S! `/ a
but why jesus need to do this?  d2 w9 @1 b: g5 b* m& X
punsihment for what???
8 d7 t4 ]. P. j% ?( Lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 ^0 t) w" h: \( K5 h6 K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; k( m  n9 `! h# O& q/ C- }
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 w3 X6 N! |8 s$ O' {what will u do???  j4 s: V1 E0 E- Z, J
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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- w/ j- k7 H- ?# psorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ b# r0 n4 Q* f: b
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 4 Q6 Q1 G9 f2 N: m. |! k

% {1 j9 G% v: g8 E" H0 v( ]議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  `4 F0 C0 n+ J/ h9 e$ R
honestly, if there is jesus
8 Y+ N6 B3 g3 t: {- f% [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ @& `( H# v  ~7 }- h* u1 w. Y2 V* ]
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, g9 E1 Q# o$ J# p' K
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
) j8 W9 ~# i; j0 y7 [just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
, B% _, O0 s( f9 J) G( {5 h+ pso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......5 S  |) m* @9 @: o
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  {( A# F/ C; d7 C$ f
bro singgeihot and rest365days( u/ J, ^, [" B0 O
honestly, if there is jesus* U) A$ _" k+ k6 o1 ^( e; m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* Q6 @1 I. Z9 ?0 x' Jwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
; ^3 E  [+ D- Iotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
1 ?4 m. g: O1 w自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: