jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- A7 {  `! J3 w# |5 Q# `
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架, G0 y5 j9 D( M8 o+ _
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 U" M: K' x2 c& rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. y# m) d: ?7 J7 |why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 K, H8 M' e+ F. i$ b: ~% Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 P$ |  v4 s) F; E  @
but why jesus need to do this?
% ^' ^! x4 v1 T/ H  w+ Gpunsihment for what???
8 i/ b) a: |, ~- Z# D& S- Y+ zfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) z; J; X; z3 j3 K' g  G( _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 L# _. V2 J5 @6 k$ v& n/ J4 R, Ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 i( N& E3 o, w* P
what will u do???
/ K5 s/ i9 i; k6 Fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:' U% ?4 M. d/ }: _- N1 J" q

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8 Z! J  w" |' ^% j& Uyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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3 |# _# I$ o0 Q1 P1 C# s% q但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排4 g: z# M8 I, Q% y

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
/ }* E$ s( j) o) b2 Z9 @bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" v3 `; Q7 k% i% ]' {! @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 @8 S6 ~9 V6 S1 J2 f/ E
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# j- i6 r! _6 lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " `8 [, P% ~, r: ]" f; D6 ?+ K
but why jesus need to do this?
$ J8 n& _7 u) n7 e. n% i9 Kpunsihment for what???
; N$ }8 S# l3 O$ j' ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( A6 _! l5 @' j# q& C: t
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
* ~! X# Y, r- L  j. ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 d8 O5 g/ J. M0 V' rwhat will u do???
( `/ C& G7 k* Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 h, F8 c) H( C6 s5 f9 d% _

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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. j: _  a' S# K1 f# \* U: N2 [好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . t  ?2 F0 d. s9 Y; v- z2 T
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 K/ {4 p; V8 m7 D# A: Whonestly, if there is jesus
/ Q  ~8 N- h. q! v$ k7 p4 Jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) N9 K6 E/ Y3 Wwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ m8 d* [' M( }7 Z

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: U$ P2 o) s! J( h好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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- u8 W1 W, V4 ^6 L! |yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- D- Y& W- o3 k5 L) b" @' O7 Jjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
4 m' f2 |& w) `% _2 I9 Uso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
: X5 G: _. J; Wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ V' L/ P+ R% K/ t- U8 U4 M( F% c5 R; _! Ibro singgeihot and rest365days
# ^- E$ O5 p5 [$ }2 k. Z5 [- z) lhonestly, if there is jesus0 M3 V0 H5 b& d& v# l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 ~: \8 ~# q; o; R4 x1 c/ l
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
* I# `7 N# P- Yotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
! ?9 D2 B2 L3 {7 j6 p# s% A, _自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: