jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:' C) H% x% G! k. I! m( P- t9 B
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 p  B/ l( A: N* ^" t/ ecomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ o: v4 n/ A8 F& L: i
why this happen? just simple........punishment% Q# h- \) f! ]- D- }9 N- j' Y7 p2 c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' x, k6 r, U* D; v/ d
but why jesus need to do this?
4 }0 D  Y2 Z* O7 ^  x$ ?) ~punsihment for what???
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# a8 V2 F7 E" B' Z; ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 w7 N5 \) A7 ]: s( w7 Y5 p3 y, Fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' g0 u" {0 Z8 r5 g. w, }- k- awhat will u do???" n7 x2 Z$ I  N* }% q- t
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉: \; ?. b; S: a2 H& n# R

) c- L+ x$ m3 l6 z8 E4 T( w但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 X- r! z8 a4 j) Q
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 y! j2 e. \  _$ j1 D/ s
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: \; d: d! E' d( r; u; p  u! p
why this happen? just simple........punishment
" E: n# {- W" b2 b- x6 i( Rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 O+ [  X) I( k
but why jesus need to do this?* C6 p4 W/ Q9 j
punsihment for what???
- ]7 o( }3 D$ v& q) T0 m5 [5 x* u' Xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 |% w. d7 e; p% `1 Htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" J6 r( o8 N/ k3 w% q1 E; [; n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* E* o0 u7 u, e% |what will u do???) W+ \9 a, T8 O+ C7 q% }
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 x( ]2 d; n) y- ^; V8 ^

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# J8 z- B( V: M+ j2 Psorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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8 z2 \8 F/ Z- R' ]4 _2 ]- ]% _  Ibro, did u know that there is a...

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6 S" n5 k4 g% z! Y' L. l* W好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀   {4 ?( J$ S4 I
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
+ ?! M* N- E3 H6 B2 K9 V9 _honestly, if there is jesus
9 F. {5 z5 Z  p% Q) nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 D( K3 y/ u+ g5 A% n' `5 @we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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2 d% z* D% G- `( `yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life/ Q$ H2 X; G  d# d: f0 C3 Y8 F6 ?
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 n/ N& }% J3 B( a
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
, q/ C% E$ d( H( w4 vnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus! T) f; {" J, N, w# s2 L! \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ Y1 r5 [+ p) [3 l9 z$ wwe can't blow him :cool:

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8 h5 [9 `% D: \& R7 Sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
  j% i" I. {# M, T6 f# xotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:& @, V, r1 `4 V2 r& |3 u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: