jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:! C/ \: [$ u2 T3 p: z2 O
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架' Y2 |/ ?8 u) ^4 }, |! G
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 Q! y$ h! h8 \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. }% J) h8 s1 K1 A) x0 j
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( r5 J+ t+ J5 u; ]) K- cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 c) o! U- j! e* ]2 z/ A+ zbut why jesus need to do this?+ Z1 x7 w: G+ k
punsihment for what???
2 J0 R# w# D+ B6 ?- K- t' w* Dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; R/ ^3 w8 _; H. X" Q; e) x  T
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# i7 @/ e# [, b6 v3 rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 @% g6 O% T+ o9 X4 ^2 u, Y) b; X
what will u do???2 h; W9 `" w1 A9 |0 @  F
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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1 J8 D; Q) }: P/ x2 G( T. w咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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6 \; j6 d( ^$ E: K: }1 c但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 x4 `: ?7 b) y/ e+ u- Z+ O
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 p7 k0 s0 N) Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 @# d/ J8 X) V* G) m
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 D- c4 r$ Q8 q) a  i0 z" X. s
why this happen? just simple........punishment9 L  B, D, V1 S0 R; ~4 O3 P: D2 ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) j! C# T5 H7 L; o( I9 [2 o
but why jesus need to do this?
) a1 t: H- Z) B5 B, I( \1 G3 @punsihment for what???
6 ?$ t6 O, L! D9 D8 O& Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 Z2 T0 s$ U* p8 J7 r# p: [8 \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" z% Z  ^2 m$ f1 ]! f; g' s4 Rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 E. Y4 `4 E$ t9 g! n& M
what will u do???+ o3 o% t+ s0 I4 c6 ]
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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$ N1 o( t5 R) `. i0 H! V: O8 `4 s; V+ Rsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / \4 [' q$ Q% b" p

" W1 R4 K! a8 U, Y% z7 a& [" o議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( E1 }. @0 V1 S7 ~
honestly, if there is jesus
' t) L: w- I" L8 `$ o' g+ V9 p: `he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' c* X" N7 o4 d  O% Zwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
' w4 f: Q& n: ijust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ `$ J, F" V; @. G, Uso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......2 b$ c0 k8 o! r* t
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 O# D- R9 T! k' X2 D/ B
bro singgeihot and rest365days
  U! d# F& R: g9 u. Ohonestly, if there is jesus
6 B9 V  s- w! d( E! q( K" dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 w+ f$ y; I$ ^$ O: n! m# Y) r/ ^3 n% qwe can't blow him :cool:

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* K" |, q- p6 A1 s3 E4 y4 Iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
* j% {5 @. x: N8 iotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:0 c1 C1 c: W& r( f1 r8 N! |! A1 x
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: