jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
$ s' F& s4 s# m, m, O0 m$ u仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架5 e4 F; }; |2 W2 d4 O! e
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* e3 ~- S, |4 L/ }  Z/ Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" X0 m- {3 A5 y+ I$ P) \4 a
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( q' s$ z9 y: q% K9 W
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 A: N" A  H, b0 M2 w# s; c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( b" O8 }+ }8 B5 {! |% C$ d
but why jesus need to do this?
$ U2 Q# m& r5 E5 H# qpunsihment for what???
( w& x7 L" D% {9 kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- \6 i+ s+ t* D3 f2 {( E3 Qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% I0 W4 a5 i' V( f: Z2 zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' s' `3 d1 y9 v' ^what will u do???
3 P" T* _' w3 h3 K; n* Ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 t5 {" U9 ^' H3 q
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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  l9 y) V& r/ M* c咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉% D/ A6 V. C, y0 A* R% e; B
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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% e2 k& X4 [$ T) t% T9 G8 ~咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 h' \9 j- O  N: h! Pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) O1 t/ W, J( N+ z/ Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ l4 b+ Q# L/ x- V) d2 [. D; l) C
why this happen? just simple........punishment
* y2 g2 s4 n1 ^  z% l: }! N: }: X% jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) P4 f3 d% Z3 u! @+ _3 y
but why jesus need to do this?2 Z( C% o2 }" S4 l
punsihment for what???
* l& D1 I6 O8 w. h0 bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: T! N/ a' k6 N# O6 P; w5 C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: c) p$ X  d) c
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # y6 \5 ~' m3 M8 O  G8 T7 Z2 u
what will u do???. E3 ~5 x7 c3 P* ?1 J
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 g6 w$ a1 Y0 u2 ~7 [3 I# T

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 u# o, Y: L. u, W' r8 a

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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6 T, z# @  j5 s4 \好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / J% H0 ]) P- o$ _$ J1 |6 q

; W% E0 ~5 M$ c4 O8 M! |8 d議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days! C, F. D& k6 w) M
honestly, if there is jesus! j: Y, H+ P5 O# \' J  P, I
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( r1 H5 u- x, |( ]7 {1 t, {( ?( [: ~
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:7 L( I9 T  C0 S) b3 R# p5 L
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- \! J% R. Z; M% X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
7 w" ~" d. u9 Ljust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; ^) x% s  k4 P- N/ A" G* T$ {so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 |: K9 J0 _" ^( b) X: x* Hnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, x/ m+ @+ h" Q( Q. ]5 P' c
bro singgeihot and rest365days. c/ V! ~, R+ q
honestly, if there is jesus
# a8 o; D: |6 che really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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3 @6 L  U3 {1 }$ e3 ^" O7 Vunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics# u3 i5 I8 X/ h# q# m
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# m7 A* R9 n/ G: ]% H) r2 \自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. Y$ c, X# v' z% Ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: