jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- t& k- R) S* X* \$ V; ~
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架, x0 H( Z4 E% s' S" Y+ X, q( A& _7 \7 e% G
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 E  j5 ~1 @4 M+ Pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% ^+ B4 \' G/ d4 B4 R: Qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
* N, A  d* h/ i9 _. s  Y4 K5 Mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, F) F0 p* d7 p/ k) W9 ~: Nbut why jesus need to do this?
: F$ z0 r* y) ~punsihment for what???- i3 m, g8 y( ?
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* ]$ S; S/ y9 m' N- m$ k
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 E( p; S  ?- y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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" @+ Q! P; n% |) T! A" F* ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉) k( n1 g# S) V% y$ E$ v0 o
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" y/ z' p8 \' ]7 ~; b

: b' H* b' M& E2 d' |* d2 E咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* Z$ \  w( U  U' L# V5 ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- m9 v& B7 u# ~4 R+ z+ w/ ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( q9 `( w( i2 N9 p
why this happen? just simple........punishment
% R" u" [, M- x! Kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# ~" S2 G" `, l# n' _but why jesus need to do this?
5 A6 e  A% e% n& ipunsihment for what???# |0 y" o; r3 L) n- U  Q$ l2 m1 x
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& W+ f6 F  I7 }  ~8 K& I. u5 d
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& l" o1 f9 Y' M. T. c, Y; R! Mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " S; W) K6 t; v- [
what will u do???# @5 s& @5 `9 S, c& u) F3 m, J
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ f7 l! H) i% r" R- d6 x8 J* c( r

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; H7 q: a; o0 g! ?6 @& z; P5 e& G好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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# ~  w, W% I) Y) S% J議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days7 ~1 T( q% y9 t6 P8 r
honestly, if there is jesus5 {' ~& s( b% n0 c) \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- M. g1 U) Q( e; B" Owe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' D' V" O" L4 H( m2 \( g  `) a% R( w
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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8 H9 L- D! @) ?9 l/ ^$ v6 _now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
; _7 `" T3 E' fbro singgeihot and rest365days
4 v# {4 |8 v) w3 _# c1 H" ^! R* lhonestly, if there is jesus) O+ W6 u2 K$ F" v( `; J1 G: m. O2 C
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 u8 q' ]/ b9 V3 y
we can't blow him :cool:

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9 n4 I* K9 |0 L5 iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
0 w* j/ F2 D' D# R% B/ `! o/ iotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:& k( ^7 V: W' ^6 l7 l  }7 P
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( I* V& l+ D1 U5 ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: