jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 W0 z: C  _/ _% U+ h  a' j! _comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 Y' F$ R  w% _- Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
( E; {, X* x, umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 h6 ^/ ], B0 b9 I! p6 cbut why jesus need to do this?6 R9 w% C4 I6 \% V
punsihment for what???+ P0 X7 d2 b0 {& P  a* V: s3 ^7 F
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* b6 _/ [4 A  @- M$ o/ \$ dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: s+ U2 h+ v# F  D* Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( l6 X  J, x3 x( \  G: _  g
what will u do???1 @2 i' X; f. N9 D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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! M1 h9 Q" ^& l9 lyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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% r4 k4 ]! O" ~; h8 D3 d# ?' Z4 N但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排9 P) _/ o% U# C# A( U& _, F- s

* Q, Y) o8 h, F. G* q+ g咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 _3 j6 |; }4 H2 J
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 S# D! C# c. X& [' a4 D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- a, K  n2 v2 J& h/ Wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment7 F, `) ^) q' z2 t5 p. g" E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + G2 n7 z! q! f. F) a) p7 q
but why jesus need to do this?
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/ D8 ~  e! p( j$ p9 Pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' c$ Z! F1 p! V2 t# z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& ]) n7 T& F% q* r9 ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " m0 u  G8 C! f" H3 ~
what will u do???
7 `3 O/ Q1 E7 p* K7 N  |. _just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, . l4 u! s2 K, P6 q8 O" l

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2 E/ s* |: [& x) T0 v% [. D( G- Vsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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- N! A- `' G8 b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 - |9 \7 {) z( |8 U0 {' A: e
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ A$ Q; j2 d; l2 Q% d; A+ Z# Nhonestly, if there is jesus) Z4 ?( T& N: ^  K( |. o! s1 [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! o# x2 R0 ~7 N' P( l! f  ?we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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4 E# M  m6 K) `3 F8 gyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 F( |4 N; j' U, f8 O2 C
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( x7 k; c! F! t, E
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
, C/ c7 i& ?: R: qnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 G: j$ K$ e& n7 Z# H: I; `
bro singgeihot and rest365days$ v/ j* K( C" q+ F5 c
honestly, if there is jesus
5 b6 P+ C/ b7 ]% D6 ?he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. S* E8 Q& d2 v8 X" Z# {" Qwe can't blow him :cool:

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2 ~; Q. ~' H6 F3 y7 l$ Aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 Z& I7 L! U# I* ^/ j- K* o: ]otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! I$ c% O* \' C6 q
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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& n3 i: G: {7 ?! X$ _& n; S; P1 R, N- k' mhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: