jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:% M# ]( O5 w( h& z9 f6 c
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架/ [3 q# s% D) L! o* {$ p
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 A- a( p* P' R  U8 r8 rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ X5 B( o5 P9 d. l1 k2 v0 B
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, r+ t* j0 W" i( d0 v, P) O+ hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; Q% V/ J0 @/ y% L) Dbut why jesus need to do this?
. j. b% m, b/ `7 [' Dpunsihment for what???
' X5 C$ d2 U9 N% D9 y  |/ cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 W$ c$ E2 q! D0 B: @, Mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ J" ^3 O5 z3 s7 J; zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
# [; i* M* A7 @what will u do???8 R& Q' L0 n4 z& s& \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" s% ~- X/ E! N8 ?7 t% W
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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9 ^, D  @, i8 l/ q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 e4 O4 S0 C4 L$ L" r

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
- b  s, d  E5 \+ [# Mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 B) F! H+ a& l9 u! z  Y5 vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: r6 ?1 Q2 q2 J# F9 r
why this happen? just simple........punishment* M/ i& _9 P  s7 g4 j0 c# R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" h1 B" Q3 n) b) Abut why jesus need to do this?
9 Z% ^7 o* {2 ^& H6 C' Zpunsihment for what???9 Z) Y" @% ]# G1 a/ X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' [0 [% ]: h- _; c! r* Y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( k% G/ h& I( Y& z. ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 Q. X" A% R+ G$ ^6 U/ g; z4 ~what will u do???
2 ]- j3 g) t+ b7 P: b2 Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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$ D: u) L8 q$ z' m! sbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " F5 D: N, }& X' @9 \7 l% d% g
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 T9 g& [5 r$ ?; f$ [; Whonestly, if there is jesus1 I" J8 f' _/ y. R4 G+ x7 ?
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' c: H4 L( V8 ]9 D/ f/ p+ iwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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5 @$ e- Q) c8 u$ Y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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2 O/ z" g3 w# K$ kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life) O6 m3 b4 s  x" |( j9 R; S
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it. N9 c; X6 j6 u+ }% S# W( W9 K
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
) O" ~) a" X5 P' t6 f+ N. Nnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 z7 d0 I( N: U5 l/ O+ i) }
bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 t) ~& g8 l6 g  d5 y  fhonestly, if there is jesus
; Z+ m7 H( q0 s# ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 s& O" a' E# kwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; _5 @% Y  W7 h% s3 }( Y
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) S9 D3 G' a4 E0 W3 C" J
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: