jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 T5 c  C8 n6 O
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架/ R4 B3 y* ~* ]. O: L( O1 }8 F
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 H/ j0 `9 t5 J, A$ p0 rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* \6 O8 \3 e; M' owhy this happen? just simple........punishment; Y! j4 l: j; R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 s3 K; v0 t; @5 r# f! ]& |. Rbut why jesus need to do this?
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ c4 h$ \; I* j- Q& [! ^
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1 v2 B* b9 @# [' ]$ a2 a咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉" C5 l; ]7 V  n" ]: y* K. L
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 T# r* L- ~9 d" o! }( ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 t* U( R( G- M0 E, v, y7 M
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- t: N- m3 K' d. swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
1 H% S( O' t2 _& o) `, W; Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / x5 ?0 Y' J+ B, i! ~
but why jesus need to do this?
/ O* J9 C- e5 w6 X5 r& kpunsihment for what???
. d$ q7 `: z' D0 F9 pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 ^& o9 u/ }( E- A) j) v) Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, N+ l. \) [" N# f; V- ^# t  k
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / d% U$ j, T9 A8 f" b
what will u do???
- J/ J! U, e  X) Wjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, . m8 i  Z( Z7 W' _/ A

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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" q! Q8 C) d4 J7 @  k. ~* p議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, z# S" t: d/ ]/ A- V: t, j
honestly, if there is jesus
; Z  G/ D( V% b% s; ]2 C! ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 v8 R7 i2 M( j' s9 k
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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3 Z, N. O; @$ c: myes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life" e: t4 ^" Z8 G/ m2 F# l  a4 x
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
( g& V2 g$ R) E$ E7 aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
$ J& f2 v, s; d: P# x5 Y# T; Lnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
5 Q5 P4 r& C5 R% Zbro singgeihot and rest365days
* y, h6 f( Q* v4 D. f  ehonestly, if there is jesus/ l# {! z, A! i2 Q7 @0 G' p- u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- I7 m. M) g* B" r9 b1 u
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; f! g7 B: N% X" I8 T
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! H( R9 H5 [0 q5 D) @
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: