jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:3 Z* I  `" e! g# M5 M. d
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架) Z% x5 M& d* A2 f9 K
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 Y" D% k) Y  A( \
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, o# X( L6 m1 q& l6 r9 I) ^: D8 T
why this happen? just simple........punishment: ^) J" [! H( h5 h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , r9 v9 k1 P1 o1 g4 t5 a: t
but why jesus need to do this?
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! y) w8 f( A$ h, D0 L: S& Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ F# f# X8 ~: c( h3 U6 ]. |/ e' n
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 o' r8 p+ z. j5 ?1 s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , j! q4 y0 P9 x3 V
what will u do???) [! u5 l9 {6 {7 D% u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ Q( w7 Z2 x) r) B8 `% a' S2 b
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! p+ \6 |( i, H5 P) [' d, j3 Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% ^4 |. s5 o1 Z/ [
why this happen? just simple........punishment9 X+ s7 s5 }( C& ~, F" m8 p/ I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 L; N# ?* s2 A3 pbut why jesus need to do this?; B9 Z' Q- e8 J7 G
punsihment for what???
4 @* R" s& N4 wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 e' y& l! I: J# f
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. G& M# O4 b9 M7 B5 d
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 m% M8 W) q9 x. `* w3 \
what will u do???9 s# `# r) ^; ~
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  J1 g8 Z& ~) ~1 b( t$ w" O8 nbro, did u know that there is a...

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; C, v* V) g- Q( Z6 n# `. `2 P$ D好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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: P0 z6 A$ O* t, q. d3 P議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 Q# i' q% Q, Y
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, I# X" s3 x4 \* s% x+ d: ]8 s
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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; d3 {; J  t' ^! m5 C1 f5 Xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
6 [  e6 ?$ S0 B4 h  g8 fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it  K4 _! O2 @  H6 q* `
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
; `. ~8 b6 X6 f! v: I3 Vnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  E- \$ m9 D. Q+ U& L* f! p2 Xbro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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( u4 |7 }1 B: zunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:# x* u3 j( U. }' c. x/ z2 r" A
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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8 S; g3 [' @: p( ^haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: