jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
+ }# Y& `* t) G, w1 o# F仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' [# r2 @, e/ U# \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 e; y9 C" @2 awhy this happen? just simple........punishment2 k, a* ]  l7 w" \$ K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 I% w8 M% D3 ~+ R8 J, r
but why jesus need to do this?1 Z/ K- B# b/ g- u: |
punsihment for what???+ u, P1 B' ~0 J7 ]& W+ y+ J6 n4 P  v# }
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 [2 \/ E( }9 X  h! g4 x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  G& [  `6 G5 y; {
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ G# h9 c, e9 _what will u do???
, j4 [& }- B- B& ]  Ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:7 {7 Z. R' d$ \

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2 }8 L* T4 I7 G3 z. \  }yes, what did u think is what i...

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) j8 c, J3 S$ a; M; E咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉2 E2 }1 S. _: `1 ^5 _& Z6 D

4 k1 D; Y6 |* d3 I2 T但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" f2 _' a- w8 w! u# h0 _

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% q0 K0 [1 M" Y- N
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 ]' b9 V' c  M+ jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* G- j- C" ~) ^: Q' n4 G. ~$ G  qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
" R! J! K4 a/ o4 e. K3 Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : L  v" D4 B+ [
but why jesus need to do this?) o' ?* k! C+ {/ ~" r; }* Z
punsihment for what???  x7 Y. l1 N4 I
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   Y2 N  B: z! J' I+ E. c
what will u do???$ b, S: Q- H, i) ?* Y8 D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, & F$ X5 H) b' l# Q% V

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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3 M0 T- c9 K: a' ^! m( k議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 S* \! b* S( \2 |& [* C
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
4 m+ h- p# k; U9 b2 Z) Djust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it  Z& Y# q. `# E. U5 B
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....... k2 w* i9 m: U
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
1 e0 s" X" d2 _- xbro singgeihot and rest365days1 A. B8 ^% F/ J2 R  p
honestly, if there is jesus/ x  @1 U7 k2 Y+ r, o  H1 Z% C
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- m! h7 X- P# p% B$ |we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics$ v. E5 m# v; a- k9 @0 J- k6 o
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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3 }+ {* O0 j) s7 p6 [; vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: