jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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( ?' n8 W8 }/ v# Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 f: F, e/ q2 K5 e& s
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# b5 |9 ]6 A% K
why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 z2 A, k2 A. w9 zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 ?/ j$ v1 |- y- }$ ?& q% Sbut why jesus need to do this?
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- u: ?6 s5 o( Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ t, g  m3 c* A
what will u do???/ n$ @7 e$ v+ q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& \0 j/ O' q  n9 s  O7 |

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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# h8 u3 \$ I6 H" M. A( h6 C6 L咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉5 d3 @4 h) D/ y3 r- @# v+ J1 G
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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# g; i. I7 H# r! F. P, K咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% s; ]! `- H4 s; A7 e: j/ a/ Z
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 [- I- P& M% H2 \/ s! M
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& p$ i0 o+ T- O) e  K; w6 X
why this happen? just simple........punishment. B; U* ~7 |6 {0 i
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % G, x9 _2 Z2 z% G* h# M3 y
but why jesus need to do this?
% b3 d0 s$ Y, Y) epunsihment for what???
* f8 q& `) }* z5 I# l- e" Qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 ?0 E8 A4 w- i8 N, q5 etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# i# p* c% B  {3 {& J! w
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 d! E# K5 _0 V' e. t! l$ R! pwhat will u do???
0 w' i6 O. n  n0 Y. W8 Yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 D# j) H  j2 _4 S: q

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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# ]! H9 {" J) B% \% d6 f7 W2 V) \bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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4 B8 {, A7 G5 \議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
% P$ v/ A6 c8 w' }% D: k5 Ehonestly, if there is jesus; `7 U  Y3 |9 z" C, U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 O2 t0 x9 w. T2 j2 j# ]
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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: I  x) Z7 S0 \; Eyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life- m) \$ J: @/ l+ Z, y( u1 p4 @
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 E2 `7 d$ S- f; f! E0 M) f% S: h
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......; f5 I, K; p0 K* h: [' j7 s
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
% e$ Y. d* E, o" r9 \: Ibro singgeihot and rest365days7 j) w) }# e9 J, l# b2 R" |
honestly, if there is jesus/ |6 Y3 m3 M+ y( u! b5 k1 D8 n0 }
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" r- G1 W% Z1 A! ~: P: x
we can't blow him :cool:

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8 w+ \) d2 j% Q( ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics. ^9 D. K% W+ |6 r
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 f9 J- w. m  g1 m7 J
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( D% W* f4 D/ |; g! Fhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: