Originally posted by CHECSS at 2006-1-30 12:38 PM:. J6 O% }2 |$ V5 o) e& }/ G
ME

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
) k' s/ ]  O9 e姜維真係咁勁?
8 F4 I3 q# p: z4 W. ]1 L+ ?) O6 J# g0 M佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

Originally posted by 托迪仔T at 2006-1-30 06:01 PM:
+ Z- S, [& M9 s羊祜

Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:( S' R6 W# d8 t# Z
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姜維

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:) T8 Y( u9 ~; k: O1 O# R% L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:) D* m1 ?. R' R4 T3 a

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9 p& X' H  Y3 ?1 f3 b( ?智慧高之餘﹐又打得1 N5 E, q! K& {, g/ N( y2 s

( g/ s8 }' F$ ~: q9 J- ^9 h7 I智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:1 c8 P* c; _9 r4 {) S

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
8 O* b* L/ C( |6 R" b/ X1 CJust I think
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=152 ^9 P: R% ]) e# ~( C, }3 r3 A, l
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=163 `% x4 d( M+ J# W4 f( z1 E
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
6 |9 Y" \7 m( P. ]7 ~& w% h+ I* l. {姜維：2+1+1+5=9
- R( e/ t+ s9 N! g4 O# q陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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/ n% X/ S' d; m) ?- Rbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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/ N2 B# a) c, W2 {/ b# U: `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ ~4 H* R( L! m, ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( l( ^3 j# u1 k0 J* h$ a! X2 JIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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  Z& _; y9 ~9 X% N3 d他比孔明更偉大

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! d( ]! M) R4 Y8 F4 G1 o

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 22:20:& F! h# w: q1 }& w9 b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:29:
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, m9 p6 D7 K$ N9 B, M. z5 eMany '3 countries' peoples 不得善終 too

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006/1/30 21:32:
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:( u- \* Q0 }! Q9 _1 p
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.......... \, o* a8 j/ D2 }
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
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Originally posted by benny0105 at 2006-1-31 01:46 AM:
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其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫...9 g3 |2 c1 a% p& V8 z) {  e
好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:# D' o4 r3 S$ e( V7 N5 x
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........9 ?9 x: L* I- P0 E
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
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係咪如此?

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 02:01 AM:
* L3 g7 U! [$ ~4 ~呢個網係講有關三國正史~
3 @5 G1 M/ c( M! s* R1 j: w. n9 F不過我諗好多人都有睇過~
4 q" R, p* N3 {7 r7 P- m4 qhttp://k-fung.net/han/real.htm

Originally posted by step025 at 2006-1-31 07:13:7 k: @- D. r+ L# K4 b
你睇演義定火鳳? 你又點知佢地打得?% E( S2 A4 n! N1 `
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Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 12:56 PM:" T* P, _2 J, r; e1 C4 B+ r9 t
P.S 曹魏後期頂住蜀漢姜維主要係teamw...

Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 12:58:8 W# g! l  h7 D, M! N% {

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Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 01:02 PM:  R; \2 z  p$ B( k- F5 O
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- I- r! d' @8 S打機鄧艾都唔錯,但正史中，我認為鄧艾勁d

Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 13:05:
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[ Last edited by abcde1918 on 2006-1-31 at 01:06 PM ]

Originally posted by 奇 at 2006-1-31 02:05:( F- E) |1 X8 d0 v9 H$ g6 `
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歷史中諸葛亮的軍事能力的確沒演義中那麼屈機,但也算不俗,始終對司馬懿也2 d9 w2 R. U1 v# Y0 J9 h8 R' R. K$ ^
沒有佔下風

Originally posted by 下......... at 2006-2-13 05:36 PM:& G8 l2 O; ]; p( j+ |
姜維智力夠高, 諸葛亮又將兵法傳左比佢,最勁當然係姜維啦!