
Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:
唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:# k! i; c+ V5 {6 Q- m% i9 [
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一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:
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佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:
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非常同意$ ]: Y% ] J! }" l$ W% R" ^" b
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:0 Z+ N9 V0 N& ^1 h. P' m
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:: E/ l; y4 G X" f( k; e; p& g
孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣; G/ s! @5 t* s, R
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭) w* ~0 ?9 n) e0 q
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:' v( n# ?! ~% G+ ]
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:- ^# s" Z/ R9 r. m' T
做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題" {( o# {. J9 T' I q) @
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:' z2 ]6 M7 j7 r1 E# p8 o
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我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:
那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:" \" x; C! L; M# }
真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:; L3 Q7 F& J* @# d: F4 n
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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