Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:
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邊會理政事

Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:3 c" A/ |1 Z# j* b
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。

Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。

Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:
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Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:
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% h4 [3 f  [  u7 J* H3 i! Z你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩？我覺得神宗，英宗和哲宗也不是昏君，只可惜局限於黨爭之中，未能大長拳腳。

Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:
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佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...

Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:4 K8 q- p3 v6 T; E1 g3 S/ J

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% N  U8 P1 j# X2 T, v你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩？我覺得神宗，英宗和哲宗也不是昏君，只可惜局限於黨爭之中，未能大長拳腳。

Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:
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北魏孝...

Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:
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北魏孝...

Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:( y9 K" a0 E. a& W
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...

Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:
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孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣1 t. M" _% B/ w
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層0 \+ ]1 K0 A8 g/ r+ a5 F
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層

Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題
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3 s# q, b* S5 E3 U所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~

Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...

Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:  _# @  D& V7 s, Q
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做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
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Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:2 }4 Z# S0 c, G+ u) s$ U/ {
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我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響

Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:
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Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:
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Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:) u$ t' z/ j- I5 ^

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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響

Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:" k& F3 P$ L" l$ K" n. {
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...