Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:+ e0 D8 C z5 O9 {6 T7 f
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩9 C8 z& G! J, K5 |9 z
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:8 e. H1 l9 B: q2 o0 @" a; ]9 J& g$ d
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一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:+ B1 j' F% y0 J6 {
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:% b* A: R0 ?& E0 c$ c
佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:. x/ z: m K) \! M0 l! x' V
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:6 d9 J V+ M! F2 L& k4 a
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非常同意" F. n% a. ~9 K. `; @
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:' z5 ?& U/ |- A" y8 Q6 p' Q/ J
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:
孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層! j: D* \2 ?3 ]! R
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:0 X5 Z8 V/ _. \! y
這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題) Q" z% Q$ u3 `2 ~4 D$ h$ b/ j
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:7 L" t& }! F# C- t5 o3 E, K
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:
做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:# O% {# h+ j$ u6 ?. u' G
我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:
那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:* ~2 X, T5 r7 F/ G2 ~
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真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:; F/ r6 M( f# V$ D, C
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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