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作者: justtocc 時間: 2005-5-24 03:14 AM 標題: [5/29吹水加分題] 您最初係點樣搵工? 有無受氣?

請問初初點樣搵工?中5後o既你去左讀/返工?有無受氣?
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第1份工係乜?小弟中五完左一年仲未有野做and讀~唔想咁7 G5 J1 e8 q% p2 g- S9 F
要技能就要錢~但要返工先有錢~咁點算?ive/大專出到黎都要從頭做起(低人工)
讀萬卷書不如行萬里路~呢句正確嗎?直接吸收經驗or讀書好?(邊樣化算d?also有僱主請你係一個問題~想吸收經驗都要睇你學歷...唉~)
d報紙10個有9個都話要1年經驗或以上~如果你毫無果樣野經驗都有照去in嗎?$ b* E1 D& Q9 B2 f
有無人中5完左就搵到份稱心o既工?

有咩返工受氣好委屈可以係呢度講下嗎?
let未返過工o既大家知多些出面打工世界係點~包括我..thank you~3 k* W5 V- R4 x- D4 p! o

最嚴重問題:3 L% P* w' j. Y: i
點為之出人頭地o既工?唔過1m都好難做成世份工~是嘛?我想知美國18歲後打份工最低都有幾錢? 香港6千都係小~有d家庭3千幾照養家~好淒慘~8千1個人~想有家庭至少1m2.......是嗎?
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積極回覆主題之會員, 每人可加 5~30分, 視回覆質素而定
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作者: vivienna 時間: 2005-5-24 03:51 AM

Originally posted by justtocc at 2005-5-24 03:14 AM:
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around US$10/hr* p0 M# R( w( H, {: c

if hong kong governement were taken over by labour party, i can tell you it would be a completely different story.
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working for people means one thing, and only one thing ------ WORKING FOR PEOPLE. if you dedicate to work more than anything else, you will only regret one day because companies only talk about money and performance, when your performance doesnt match with money or vice versa, you will be dumped. some might disagree what i say, but you will never understand this concept until this day comes to you.

owning a company is like playing chess, working for a company is like being played as chess. you can go well all the way until one day you make a little wrong move, then you will be stuck there ever after. if you have the right money and right mind, go ahead and be the chess player! the experience gained from starting a business will be a lot more fascinating than solely working, however this experience might either cost you a fortune or give you a fortune. moral of the story is: learn the rules first (i.e work) and then play the game right2 O; g. S' s' d" h+ B/ T

i am also a fresh grad, i have worked for at least 3 different companies over the last 14 months, i kept on changing jobs because i am very picky about stuff, and that includes jobs. i am a GREAT example of failure, so dont learn from me. the worst thing about working is OT. seriously i dont mind working overtime, but i dont like it when the company takes it for granted.4 b. U: Z# n% T( r. W H
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i hv been unemployed for 2 months...hv been writing CVs and attending interviews recently....gone hopeless. well, life is miserable, only you can make it not.

作者: vivienna 時間: 2005-5-24 03:58 AM

Originally posted by justtocc at 2005-5-24 03:14 AM: i0 W9 x) [& M
點樣搵工?

真係無人答到你。。。而家黎講﹐真係等運到架咋。。。一個RECRUITMENT DAY入面請20人﹐跟住300個人黎INTERVIEW。。。就算你好叻﹐D公司都唔會知道啦﹐跟本就無心機INTERVIEW你既/ u' ]* A0 N/ c: H+ @& ~
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唔係講笑﹐上次會展個招聘EXPO﹐我真係排左3粒鐘﹐好多OL﹐我當係去睇女架咋

作者: spector.R 時間: 2005-5-24 03:58 AM

你有冇一個目標將來想做d 咩工?

我中5 repeat 左一年考到10分之後就去左讀IVE.+ I" k; ~- {9 g- l8 a
讀IVE 係唔錯既選擇, 因為佢教到你既技能係最實際, 讀完之後有返一技之長, 搵工都易d ,冇錢讀可以問政府借~+ k8 m# I( b3 g) t/ B1 t
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讀到咁上下通常都會有機會去一d 相關既公司實習, 到時除左可以得到工作經驗, 最緊要就係要落力d 做,打好關係, 比人一個好印象. 畢左業間公司請返你既機會都大d~
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出黎做野預左要受氣, 但只要你有料, 對人對事既態度好, 去到邊都唔洗怕~~~~

作者: justtocc 時間: 2005-5-24 04:00 AM

Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-5-24 03:51 AM:1 d6 G& J; X7 q+ {) T
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around US$10/hr
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if hong kong g...

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唔識英文...大概講乜?

作者: justtocc 時間: 2005-5-24 04:01 AM

Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-5-24 03:58 AM:
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真係無人答到你。。。而家黎講﹐真...

嗯....講運~我無運行~% {8 p' I, A& ]" M6 w0 p
但經理易唔易做? 有人識嗎?

作者: justtocc 時間: 2005-5-24 04:04 AM

Originally posted by spector.R at 2005-5-24 03:58 AM:
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哦~原來ive讀讀下會比你去真正公司實習?你是酒店業嗎?

作者: vivienna 時間: 2005-5-24 04:05 AM

Originally posted by justtocc at 2005-5-24 04:00 AM:8 V. A" A$ H" V

+ J* N; A+ S' P唔識英文...大概講乜?

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慘﹐你連許留山都唔做得﹐我上個月去許留山﹐個阿嬸同個鬼佬傾倒雞啄都唔斷呀

作者: vivienna 時間: 2005-5-24 04:07 AM

Originally posted by justtocc at 2005-5-24 04:01 AM:
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你究竟知唔知咩叫經理﹖, [0 w1 t ~7 M2 _( J- C
間單黎講﹐差唔多好似酒樓部長啦。

作者: spector.R 時間: 2005-5-24 04:16 AM

你一做就想做經理?? 除左自己開間鋪頭....3 l( c: h& s5 U5 h) o- \+ t" ^/ A
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我係讀多媒體動畫個類.... 香港呢d工已經接近飽和...
其他科我唔知, 但我呢科想去真正公司實習唔係全部學生都有機會, 都要睇你成績.

作者: vivienna 時間: 2005-5-24 04:33 AM

Originally posted by spector.R at 2005-5-24 04:16 AM:! I; @- w! D( o- i
你一做就想做經理?? 除左自己開間鋪...

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marketing firm都有你尼D人架。。。而家好多廣告都用得著架。。。之不過好少請實習﹐但如果你係SHOW到你有創作天份既話﹐有時都有機會架

作者: spector.R 時間: 2005-5-24 05:05 AM

ya, 而家都積極儲緊porfolio ^^
做呢d 工.. 興趣就完全滿足哂la, 但就成日開OT, 開到而家呢個時候都仲做緊公司野...做得快既就做多d都係一樣~

睡眠時間負債嚴重...

作者: robertchai 時間: 2005-5-24 05:25 AM

講真,學歷冇用!

你最好做d同年紀既人冇既野,至於係咩,要自己想的...6 P! z/ w! u! e6 \

我本身家底都好差,以前屋企申請綜緩過日子的
讀完F5果年都唔知自己做咩,於是叫做自修一年再報會考,兩年一樣分,其實仲有d side時間...
果年我去過好多地方打工,因為屋企真係冇錢,一份工比人炒左又一份...搬貨補習班咩都做,雖然份份都做唔長,不過可能因為我人緣好,認識左好多猛人,包括一d國內既大廠家,大地主(呢d人又認識中央軍委,市長...總之好多猛人)然後我本身又幾鍾意創作,去左讀沙田ive讀廣告設計(果年幸好收個分幾低下,早一年我都入唔到),都未讀完已經有大廠家請我兼職廣告設計,然後我本身識幾種語言,無意中有家國內娛樂雜誌社想搵d會日文既人做採訪,人搭人介紹之下就搵到我

結論,其實一技之長同人面都好重要3 b4 b2 g2 T" L3 Q( w7 G
仲有,果d咩證書都係冇用既,真正既勁人唔會睇證書,而係即場同你傾計,感覺你係咪佢想要既人1 v) J1 }8 h9 V& G1 a1 @, v9 x+ c
最後一點,待人以誠!有好多衣著平凡滿口鄉音既呀叔呀嬸,可能係國內d咩咩大公司既老闆來的,而你就可能係佢想要既人...

作者: spector.R 時間: 2005-5-24 05:34 AM

Originally posted by robertchai at 2005-5-24 05:25 AM:
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你最好做d同年紀既...

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係la, 如果第時唔係想做醫生, 考個博士學位返黎都冇用~ 有實戰經驗最重要~ - K, z4 c1 o2 A; q/ q; q

d 公司唔理你有幾多學歷, 總之見你係佢想要既人, 見你係做得野既就會請你 ~

作者: super168 時間: 2005-5-24 11:27 AM

家陣年青人出來做野,淨係要人工高,幾千蚊人工唔做,要人比萬七人工,又唔知自己乜野技能都冇,要d老闆點比,有d以為讀過下書就巴巴閉,讀到大學有春用,又唔識做野,比人炒就話老闆衰,倒不如好似以前做學徒,學番一技之長,起碼有門手藝旁身,好過乜野技能都冇,有料冇話冇人請

作者: rest365days 時間: 2005-5-24 03:03 PM

學歷唔代表一切, 但係學歷通常都可以幫助你行第一步. 話學歷無用就嘥氣啦, 好簡單兩個問題:
1)兩個人其他條件都差不多, 分別係一個讀多D書, 你係老細你揀邊個?
2)對於一批剛剛畢業, 未有工作經驗嘅人, 最快了解佢個人能力嘅途徑係mud? 咪睇CV, 睇吓讀書讀成點囉.  工作經驗, 態度等等當然重要啦, 但係呢D野要時間去觀察, 咁老闆憑mud野俾機會佢, 俾時間佢發揮?! S) F3 }5 E8 `) h

老實D, 直接D講, 讀書方面係唔係行人止步, 你自己最清楚.  如果仲可以讀, 你俾個理由自己點解唔讀? 屋企等錢用?0 f2 Z; R" w) C. N) a" _* z/ J
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如果讀書方面行唔通, 就快快趣趣搵野做囉.  其實做邊行唔係咁難諗, 你個性係外向, 定係內向其實好明顯.  有邊種特別技能一早就知啦.  繪畫, 音樂, 定係電腦…又唔係要發掘超能力, 呢D興趣唔洗做test都知啦.  打開份報紙, 除非你想做一般文職 (即係份份個名同內容都差不多), 否則好容易可以剔除大部分唔鍾意, 或者條件唔啱嘅工.  縮緊範圍之後再同身邊嘅人研究吓啦.  可能某D你有興趣嘅job身邊有人做緊, 可以俾意見你.3 }9 |# i- S0 {8 q
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另外, 人際網絡都好緊要.  好時都會靠介紹, 效果係會好好多.  所以如果有聚會都PO吓頭, 同身邊嘅人保持聯絡啦. (做朋友啫, 唔係叫你做PR)

至於待遇, 哈哈, 你當呢兩年係投資啦.  唔好計較咁多啦.  受氣? 呢樣係完全視乎你遇到mud野人喎…

其實你關心嘅問題, 大部分你都可以自己諗到答案.  只要你嘗試從多個角度睇, 例如當自己係老細, 又當自己係第三者睇, 你(或者老細)會點揀人?  你覺得無經驗嘅人犯錯機會係唔係大D?  係唔係要多D耐性去教?  佢地嘅工作值得幾大嘅回報?…你諗到嘅.

作者: badboy119 時間: 2005-5-24 04:02 PM

US$10/hr ?where do u live ar??$ N# i w' i: K; @& {5 p
18 yrs old, that's only high school education, no way u can earn US$10 an hour

作者: Rika 時間: 2005-5-24 06:36 PM

Originally posted by robertchai at 2005-5-24 05:25 AM:
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你最好做d同年紀既人冇既野,至於係咩,要自己想的...: t/ G0 J8 L/ q8 z

4 K, {2 \# r8 l9 v( O我本身家底都好差,以前屋企申請綜緩過日子的2 Q' W$ ~/ J5 t5 J5 l* U
讀完F5果年都唔知自己做咩,於是叫做自修一年再報會考,兩年一樣分,其實仲有d side時間...: m2 ?9 g, Z8 [( ^
果年我去過好多地方打工,因為屋企真係冇錢,一份工比人炒左又一份...搬貨補習班咩都做,雖然份份都做唔長,不過可能因為我人緣好,認識左好多猛人,包括一d國內既大廠家,大地主(呢d人又認識中央軍委,市長...總之好多猛人)然後我本身又幾鍾意創作,去左讀沙田ive讀廣告設計(果年幸好收個分幾低下,早一年我都入唔到),都未讀完已經有大廠家請我兼職廣告設計,然後我本身識幾種語言,無意中有家國內娛樂雜誌社想搵d會日文既人做採訪,人搭人介紹之下就搵到我6 t2 B" l: ?: h/ B# a( ?/ Q( P

: W$ k& q& \6 r2 V+ M% J1 G結論,其實一技之長同人面都好重要/ t7 C- n) w8 | Z+ h4 U7 t
仲有,果d咩證書都係冇用既,真正既勁人唔會睇證書,而係即場同你傾計,感覺你係咪佢想要既人4 M# x+ A0 O2 b" A
最後一點,待人以誠!有好多衣著平凡滿口鄉音既呀叔呀嬸,可能係國內d咩咩大公司既老闆來的,而你就可能係佢想要既人...! M6 x' [; ~' F* o) l. N: T

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Unbelievable~

I have never seen such great stuff~

Sometimes our economy and society have to maintain some of low educated people.
They are important for us.
If everyone is gonna be educated, who is gonna be employed in low income job.
We need them. We need the low educated people. They are supporting our economy
Thank you, Thanks a lot~

作者: 老鬼X 時間: 2005-5-24 09:40 PM

我中五都無呀!嗚..嗚..嗚

作者: yutik 時間: 2005-5-25 02:52 AM

喂, 我中七, but無工作經驗, 放左咁耐假都未有野做!!!

作者: vivienna 時間: 2005-5-25 03:15 AM

Originally posted by yutik at 2005-5-25 02:52 AM:# r ]+ r& l4 q. @$ ]7 F. J
喂, 我中七, but無工作經驗, 放左咁耐假都未有野做!!!

你有無真係出去見工先﹖我就o係3個星期入面見左4份。。。份份都無回音。。。尼個香港慢慢令我感覺到好灰。
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不過我自己知衰﹐次次見都見得好差﹐我INTERVIEW幾差下架﹐但之前個個老細都話我做得野﹐所以而家真係有少少等運到。講真如果個INTERVIEWER同你唔夾﹐話知你係神仙都好難會請你﹐唔知點解而家個個INTERVIEWER都係女人黎既﹐個個樣都好八婆。如果D INTERVIEWER同你好岩KEY你就發達喇﹐大家講野岩聽﹐起碼少左D隔膜先呀麻。+ t k+ g! q1 r4 V8 A/ \/ }
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各位人兄努力呀

作者: justtocc 時間: 2005-5-25 04:23 AM

Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-5-25 03:15 AM:
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你有無真係出去見工先﹖我就o係3個...

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你個人頭像係乜誰?覺得有d奇怪~因為見訓係浴缸就多~係上面練腳力少見~@@係咪洗手盤來嫁~圓形又唔大又唔細如果係浴缸~太大如果係洗手盤
嗯~睇黎得出結論係in果part係重點~咁內向o既我咪成世唔駛做?
and如果最想就係做面包學徒做住先~都算係一門手藝~~有人有相關資料嗎?thx

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作者: vivienna 時間: 2005-5-25 04:32 AM

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作者: vivienna 時間: 2005-5-25 04:35 AM

Originally posted by justtocc at 2005-5-25 04:23 AM:) l6 y4 w$ [- ~( ?6 [

2 {. M" Z; S0 f/ k( }2 f嗯~睇黎得出結論係in果part係重點~咁內向o既我咪成世唔駛做?
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INTERVIEW真係最重要﹐係我既致命傷。
我諗你可以去果D職業訓練局﹐或者睇下報紙﹐有時D人會請學徒架。

作者: FIRE GUNZ 時間: 2005-5-25 11:24 AM

咁我咪仲死得人多....雖然話做過2年侍應....不過依家要轉行都唔知搵咩做好~
自己既興趣又末知(最好當然係唔洗做啦....不過冇可能).....我或者會做住保安....! e/ o% B- l! b( R5 `
行頭都幾多下....諗得過....不過係超悶...但戀好過冇野做啦~
唔記得講添....我依家讀到中三ja...你地覺得我仲可以搵d咩野黎做呢????3 Z9 f& U9 |3 Y, \
我『唔係高又唔係大隻，係人緣都ｏｋ好既～至小都唔會點得罪人』
咁多位大哥你地認為呢？

作者: saki 時間: 2005-5-26 05:22 PM

I did some kinds of job in summer.....(Mac, sales, interviewer,tutor,clerk, clinic...), i6 L' r ~* a. E, A
I am lucky that I can get the jon easily than my friend.....

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It is so important in the interview process... (it just have 10-30 mins to show what you got)
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I cried when I did the clinic job(part-time) in last summer.

I'm responsible for the medicine(I didn't hv any experience on this 行 before) So, the head nurse gave me some information about the medicine. I have to remember all of the medicine name... / V) {  K* u  s3 ]$ A7 Z7 }3 P! @
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ai ~~~ when I work in there (the 1st day) ...The head nurse started to push me already .... do all the things as soon as possible, non-stop ..(bec so many paients come to see doctor..30 or above paients in a hour..)5 p9 Y+ r  h3 E' \1 a0 Q3 i( G" s! X
If you are slow down, she will shout "do quickly !" Unluckily, I was trainied by her.. she stand on my left.... and call me to do this or that (she said"everthing I just say 1 time, remember it and don't get any mistakes.).....nothing can satisifed for her.
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My colleges said she always like that if she is mad about what you did..Sometime, she will shout to me or other colleges, we all afraid of her... But, she won't come back in Sunday...So, I always choose to work in Sunday....

Unluckily, one day when I am doing my work, she came back. She began to shout "Did you know how to do it...See, all of your teenagers are not useful... can't do a good thing, I don't know how your family teach you....(start to said some foul language to my parent)."
I keep to work and my tear can't stop...I don't know what's wrong with me.... I want to quit at that time.... (she is "chi seen"

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Later, I tell the doctor that I will quit. ha ha ~~ He said" Don't quit, pls. there are so many nurses quit already... I know you are good.. and my mother (the head nurse) is wrong. I don't like her how to treat you guys too.. I know all of your girl (nurses) are useful.....)- s$ M& M, A9 L A |' }3 H0 L
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Then, I stay and do 2 more months then I quit too....

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wow~~~ when I quit. I feel very very happy... just like the freedom back !!!

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P.S. : the head nurse is the doctor mother.... the doctor is nice..the doctor will play with us. But his mother just know how to shout to others only.....

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When I leave, the head nurse want me to intriduce some girls to work in there..bec me and an other nurse quit at the same time.../ M) |0 a5 K3 R; I* n) Z
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it is the worst work experience that I have on working...
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[ Last edited by saki on 2005-5-26 at 05:50 PM ]

作者: advvda 時間: 2005-5-26 07:39 PM

yup.it's always true that earning money is so hard and painful sometimes if it is a part time job.

but my friends upstair,when the senior staff blame on you or do whatever to hurt you,think about why u do the job for.

In the case of my part time job in restaurant,i always think like"I work for you and get money and go"thats it.5pound/hr is a lot of $$ for me.if u purpose of doing a job is to gain experience,think about what u get instead of what the staff say.it works.gookluck!

ps:女仔係俾人錫咖，如果真係做得太傷心就唔好做拉

作者: easonwing 時間: 2005-5-26 10:07 PM

我而家月入一萬二....但係都唔夠洗

作者: justtocc 時間: 2005-5-27 12:09 AM

Originally posted by easonwing at 2005-5-26 10:07 PM:
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咩工? 介紹我ok? 1m2 我夠

作者: 畢球人 時間: 2005-5-27 04:26 PM

我第一次是Form 7老師介紹的，一份文員~
那個老板是我老師的朋友，做chemical的~# I3 s$ [; }4 y) [
雖然是介紹，但都要interview兩次，因為我老師介紹了幾個人比佢，而對方只請一個人。2 s0 w7 d. K* `3 t6 e9 ]+ y
我第一次interview時真的不太好，好多問題都不懂答，但我想因為我chem的成績都ok，吾多吾少對佢公司的chemical都有點認識，所以有機會second interview。) ?+ E' b) h$ `# P+ o# n
最後都請了我，而份工都不辛苦，不過就悶了點，因為我同事們都頗大年紀，大家的話題不太多。# [# m! E7 x2 |% x
後來做了幾個月就離職了~

作者: justtocc 時間: 2005-5-28 01:48 AM

@@無受氣巳經好好~but要對電腦嗎~

作者: Peter1987 時間: 2005-5-28 02:19 AM

第一次係中4 做kfc搵下$$..3 P$ C1 E: D7 }9 D. C
點知頭幾日 d 9哩比哂d野我做..7 v0 {5 w5 a, w2 P0 }
勁q慘..
跟住同d人熟左之後都冇麥野..仲玩番d 9哩..

作者: easonwing 時間: 2005-5-29 10:22 PM

Originally posted by easonwing at 2005-5-26 10:07 PM:" l% c% b% Y7 i, f
我而家月入一萬二....但係都唔夠洗

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機電工程處癈人一個...

作者: i4826c 時間: 2005-6-13 10:38 PM

我記得我既第一份工係起一間車廠度做文員 (Hints: 老細姓胡),4 j& |, {5 j, y+ P" T* B6 Q5 y
但係呢個係一個 Bad Memory,7 {+ X3 g* ~" Y3 v+ o/ G+ F
當時我係跟個老闆娘,
不過佢好無耐性.0 a& `( o% T- T; a1 M3 g
我做錯少少野佢已經鬧到我狗血淋頭 (雖然已經預左),
有時唔係我錯都照鬧.% [; w1 h: u. ^1 } \1 j" ]% r* b
向佢討教,
佢就淨係識講:"呢D野要你自己去諗"./ `; e* G" P; K7 s. ?) K
有時同佢講講左野,! y- y5 O5 ~' S9 l
就無啦啦搬返我D過失來鬧我.& K- e# C n% { W
最慘人工得四千大元一個月,
仲要朝九晚七返六日.
最後我做左一個星期就辭職啦 (其實佢都好想炒我)......

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