甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:24 AM:! o8 E4 F4 b0 B' P8 C$ n! L
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曹操的祖父是宦官曹騰的養子,對不對？

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yes,but...wht 關係 with 夏候's family？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:26 AM:: W: I8 n' a2 [3 R' X8 p
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8 F( e2 e7 Q6 v& Q3 U2 s曹操祖父本性夏侯，因曹騰收養了他，故改性曹,對不對？

; f# Z5 m0 ~% W! H. ?yes,so 夏侯惇、夏候威等 are 曹操堂兄弟/ e  H( N* B1 U' C) e, u: @
more than half 將軍 is 姓曹&夏候

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:33 AM:
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不是夏侯惇之侄嗎？
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夏侯玄是夏侯尚之子，最後......

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. G3 q+ l9 x% G8 a, lhis eye 中箭,he put it out,& eat it
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甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:39 AM:
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, ?; `- M( e: A5 N夏侯惇也算是魏國的一個名將
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* h3 _! J* z: O/ i曹仁也不錯

, h( H1 }8 }6 i7 N* |  I諸葛's family也強，分散投資

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:44 AM:
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: W6 b: _# f+ F" M& X9 R  ]一代忠將，不向司馬屈服，可敬！

5 [2 D9 ]- s0 ~$ n1 dwhy曹魏無忠臣？ask曹操吧~

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:51 AM:
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' V( m. o$ R6 J: F: T有！陳泰，母丘儉，諸葛誕，許禇，張遼，王經......

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this is 忠將:cool:

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:54 AM:, o3 u& U9 b3 V* H' J1 B5 K8 t

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王經係忠臣8 k( b- J3 P) g, f

" ^' s- k1 T% M: T" n  V程昱，賈詡，高柔......

- W$ l5 s4 Z4 R8 R係咪咁ar？！
; z* c% u' r; q8 N/ |* m兜都唔比兜，好串喎！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:57 AM:
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' V1 U$ h, h/ d( u- C$ ?  r% g8 v事旦，程昱在呂布偷襲時......

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我想說的，是曹操的唯才主義...

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:59 AM:' m6 q# y* `2 |6 `( r
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don't just two words,ok？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 11:01 AM:
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ok
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1 D6 E' L" [' H0 ]& q2 e, k" R. Y陳琳臭罵曹操幾代，仍能不死

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