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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 q0 {* }1 U0 s" j" V) Y3 w- R
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 u2 J) N# U9 O4 ^2 d) @, t# g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 z& X, X+ z0 f. `; t
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) o* E& n' ]' {( G0 `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; z0 a7 L3 m4 ~9 I2 E# K1 Q
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  {1 Z* j4 G$ T# D4 mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ j. q& L' `% z* dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 M) x3 |% a+ a- C/ T" C$ bwhat will u do???# }9 S. ^7 Y& x+ V: q( z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ! \, r4 G3 z# M! m$ a

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& c1 o' F, l4 z1 rsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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( q. g7 x+ ]4 L- T2 A( Yhonestly, if there is jesus/ W) [3 J* ]7 N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ ], w$ @; V& f; D# Z
we can't blow him :cool:

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1 C* ^$ T0 q. C- \2 e/ aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:8 `' H, [! [2 Y
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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( I; B- Y& J4 K7 Jthat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..+ v/ t. c4 W3 j5 g
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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5 C( ?6 w* }7 a( A" m8 C- {; CFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
; G8 [9 U- X# n( R" \3 E1 v. F; e% ]如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:- f3 o4 R9 |% C# y% V& X

  J/ R* I. I1 m5 c+ [* [6 i: csing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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4 r( l1 x& a$ J; {+ |! q! N* \% voh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎4 B" a! M. x8 B5 q+ J' G: s
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:8 @; p$ K4 I4 a4 }# J4 K6 P$ N8 h! {- b
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:5 M% \. Y1 g& v3 `5 B& b6 X- b
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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1 p2 V9 e) _2 T& `+ U- w停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.! F6 }' J% V5 x+ y5 ]
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.