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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( ~7 ^& [1 x6 w4 }, q1 A$ obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- K' }2 I' \! l4 W' o' ]
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% R" D4 g0 P# ~) z* N5 b2 ~+ P, l
why this happen? just simple........punishment
. X5 ^+ H6 z4 F$ ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 m8 u) U# x- P$ _but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( p6 [" ~4 Q# v' `. S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; C" G4 W) ^4 w: v: N6 Y* `
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * d( C2 w7 \! [& ~7 l. Z* n0 r
what will u do???0 ]- G+ o3 ]1 \+ V$ \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 H$ n4 {- {! T4 [: g+ ]! y

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ L' g$ R: X& gbro singgeihot and rest365days! r5 r7 K/ X: L
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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$ s' d# ~" q( Nunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:3 q" J* j* u* P; M5 w8 \
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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2 ~% E) D  m& Mthat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..9 ]0 @5 o: x' [+ T6 r
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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" W/ H9 E, z9 L. GFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?9 C8 `4 p% u0 A! K( R
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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- i2 v  L# m' q. B8 V& q. t$ _sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
2 Z: f; ~9 t1 ~' O% f6 X8 Kpls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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5 l" J" j1 [0 j7 m- y; S% P7 t+ YGod arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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7 s& m+ V" y1 r% p6 z, Y+ p' swhat???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:' W3 {0 G9 r0 ]9 |& G* u) }
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.5 ~+ x, l# a" u( e0 |$ C$ b
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方./ u6 l' |0 w  j/ i2 P

3 [3 u& ]5 |' S+ k, y相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.