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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& q: L$ M0 `6 Y; c+ dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; C! W# S$ I. r' E- }/ f; Zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 o. R: ]& a9 B- X& i- r9 n+ k
why this happen? just simple........punishment% K& w- o" E) h$ Y  M( x( c4 _: c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. R: T. R/ X: A6 v( s3 s6 x. d* Obut why jesus need to do this?
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6 r. W5 e+ N% \& ~( pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ l& r: D8 R8 \, i) u1 ~
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; K3 Y( ^0 S" p4 g$ n  l) y+ T
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . y6 c1 A! ~! m' ^, U+ E; W9 G
what will u do???
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 l" O& C9 t! v) \8 c% n2 o
bro singgeihot and rest365days
" L8 ^% h+ T. p! d! Fhonestly, if there is jesus5 T: X& t3 W4 S1 Z  P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" }; |3 J) i! L& g0 Kwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
/ h' z. V; a1 N自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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, D9 A" K0 I# v. Q4 w* x# Athat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
9 ^& J+ U6 z: i+ o$ l4 t3 Vstop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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9 y3 t5 ^9 Y8 r5 {6 j3 U$ QFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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0 r4 x+ G" x, G2 X3 C% n  U$ N9 C如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?, W" o7 k4 ]! T0 Q! T% Q6 o
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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5 u* n( _4 J  x  k6 M- X7 rsing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
; Z+ G; C3 X# p3 ?8 ]! @pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:' S9 V' v4 R) v5 ?, e
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.) {- ~( _8 |9 ^8 u! p) {
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.