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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" g+ i" ?% D! ~3 [+ Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' I& j# t( |' W
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' _2 g  w) N6 [% Q, f. G, z
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ u. x% L/ {! o( h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! u/ d$ Q6 E9 F  \. Q
but why jesus need to do this?' V. A* g! e  \9 Q6 ?9 ^. Y
punsihment for what???* {- y8 b# A9 Q! v0 z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ Y# k2 p7 g" |3 S) r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# H8 d1 e; T- K# H3 P% X1 Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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- n, a* W- K  q7 x: |- K& F2 o4 D- ?sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 f: @0 @/ H5 Y) \( X
bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 f* y( @" ?- f+ Vhonestly, if there is jesus
, @; t# S: I: D7 jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% ]9 R1 u2 k; E" X5 S
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:, p. Q) A' j/ |2 x4 g+ T4 D
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..  K& H+ `, i6 _
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:1 n9 d9 G* G- D  d. v# j4 C4 `* F
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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) l! T, L6 N' W7 J如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?0 M) b4 B" U2 M$ o# V) F  k  a
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:9 t3 ^5 |' C2 V2 Z2 H& M" f

! j1 P# h5 b* M$ n+ V; `sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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! s# D! G2 E* B8 V$ `oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
* R7 i- ^' H8 b: f' f- D/ a  upls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:0 ^0 M3 U0 d5 c" f
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
' `) @: y) A3 Y+ ?" L0 [. u如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.2 C% b: Z1 o/ l

7 @2 ^" R0 u, X4 H我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.. P) b4 d  t4 S3 G6 ^  p
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.