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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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$ O, @! [' |! A; z6 m/ z) J智慧高之餘﹐又打得3 \* ~, t+ O/ K5 e! k% p, S# M/ w

% Q6 Z4 A  U# x: N$ M5 f4 o智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:7 ^6 M# }% v  w* U0 h+ {6 T, ]: c

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) V9 q/ H, c# ]3 |6 HAgree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, F7 e0 Q* y9 p3 j: Q

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7 M# \* H8 D9 }/ t- I# @政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維4 C, R+ ?- q: h- u
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
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4 q/ \- J, X; |& lThus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
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第一五分，第五一分
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& y1 r8 ~8 q9 b" e- f諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15- B( \, |; \; Z- q% ]
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: Q+ l) K- o8 L; ~) p

& a8 A' H  W; d" x; Y' T  B0 T軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維7 T% J4 X+ ^8 c" h5 ]; y

, ~* \; d7 R. X$ I打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮# f9 Y* s: ~4 U. P- K8 Z/ f

5 V% N+ b) K& Q* B9 X0 L4 WThus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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$ [0 g0 I: Z5 \  p3 K5 Lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 ]9 M" D; J& _. A4 C9 u) B
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; |& i1 _6 S2 t* L, e
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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3 r- y+ S/ Z, b8 ^& E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! V' L/ c( L5 D- t/ H

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ P2 s. z8 a$ |! d& o) s% k* @4 y

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" M$ b$ h; u2 K8 `/ b* |  _. N5 r& M他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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: ^4 A+ U7 }$ E- U他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

1 P) w8 Z! [( P0 S( W7 Hyes, that's the point.