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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:# @( o! u: ]9 ]# M/ W" N
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why?

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:- G# ~/ X& I) G5 k  m3 D
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  y5 R+ T- U) T( {. c/ j% r

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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮( r5 f7 q% ~2 W" w' |5 Z
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Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
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第一五分，第五一分; G- F# J, ]9 R
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=158 |: a; y" ^& `% O- M  t2 q" b) K3 z
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16% O% D# |, e# i' G
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=101 x8 L+ A2 `4 L+ o- W* g! k
姜維：2+1+1+5=9
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 K0 S! a# Z& |' m
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 |- f( _- j% Z2 R$ B1 GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( i- {* H+ N6 q. o; ]0 f/ G. M) ?
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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% u0 x* X' \4 b/ T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

  B5 l3 z/ l# ?- J! ?yes, that's the point.