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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:1 R3 T/ `" a! l  i6 O' ]6 h
姜維真係咁勁?
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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:0 x' a# G9 b; k' w, B# C% e
司馬懿

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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  n" n0 [1 ]4 T% H* t. D4 M姜維

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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:. ^( d) X5 `* b2 O1 X% m" ?

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智慧高之餘﹐又打得6 c5 F* X) b0 J% Z; T7 d
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think  O) X; l! O, t0 q  o" `
第一五分，第五一分
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鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10: |- K5 F4 m6 P7 N9 U) X6 @
姜維：2+1+1+5=9/ Q- l6 e# Q  B9 H" k" s- u! I
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. [9 b1 g% G4 q

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ A8 \# x& B2 }3 U
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6 H1 X$ u. e' F: J8 BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: F% v% T  d, D# dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" y# D4 w' W0 ^* }" P% c/ S

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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