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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
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佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:6 k7 V9 F; H$ T1 }8 O5 s' n
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+ f9 p- v) l2 oyes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:) }: c0 d9 t, b
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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: A" n$ G" P. M/ H5 O+ E. F智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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, l' i0 h: _9 `: I8 R# Fbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維
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' q$ L; y- U$ S) ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think
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1 d7 |- w# D; v+ A. z. F; h4 j2 r司馬懿：4+4+5+3=163 y( D3 P# L" `; S$ S
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10. F! W* y5 G: {9 l0 z, o! y
姜維：2+1+1+5=99 C1 l% B# }; T; x  n% o2 K
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:1 B2 K( ?- v$ i$ o
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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6 `1 f3 I4 i9 {6 C; YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; d1 q3 O6 O' z. L9 l% k
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 o  m/ t  g1 t3 Z

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) R3 N+ @! C4 Q9 m3 hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" a0 D% R! Y! ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機