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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:/ a6 J' `: f5 g7 T8 v
姜維真係咁勁?" t( ?# o7 b; J- D$ D
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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3 d) q. z- s8 x! y4 {實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:* W; U- `$ D. Q7 N

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:) X" e7 [. s+ m6 z( S
司馬懿

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:3 J7 U: B( \2 x# Q, r) S" M- h
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姜維

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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得/ u5 \" V6 }) E& C: v

8 }9 e4 q3 b/ \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維! X6 K) {! _1 n! f
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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第一五分，第五一分
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
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鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 V+ l# J: o  f  w: }& h( G" o
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 ?- R% I; w  f1 k. q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; z. Z- h. L1 f5 h

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機