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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:% o% _- \, a! s% j# f9 r
姜維真係咁勁?" i. I) o* T  E7 q5 S, y
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:* a/ T2 l  F, T, q" y, G6 Q

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6 F: h. Y0 l7 E, Q1 C但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:6 n! ~) }0 Y) f+ l& u7 z
司馬懿

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:* G) V7 z8 x8 w

. d, ~" D, ?. Z姜維

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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, r# a3 p% B  ^- @5 T( W智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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. r6 G$ r  o8 @+ a" T( Tbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維* o9 s3 p. H2 u  L1 M9 y' _% s
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維  n0 s( O6 S6 M. I1 i# t

( B" \; d! O# y7 g打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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第一五分，第五一分, N# ^* s- s$ Q+ T' D5 j6 ]

9 }$ X) A/ t8 F諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=154 L" j: X% q9 u- A" x: J
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9* Q$ n: @; }/ H& X# e" r
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% u! B- g7 N# e) R4 O
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 W- c. ^8 A8 A) f7 S- z& L

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- D. J9 K- d% {, ?, I
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; P# z8 E; P7 H) r. B) X7 g0 p! {
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6 j7 B7 p9 l8 u/ _" C: GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 I- }) r: h7 \3 e7 r1 L0 T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機