jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:8 _/ J, N* f& `. D0 n6 T( J0 v* r
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架; o' G1 E/ Q, |' s$ [
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 D* Z+ i/ L6 @6 ^
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- \. S; m! p! }9 z8 l* s; Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
; B- j1 z% c' q3 D, Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ i/ {2 I, w2 E2 Qbut why jesus need to do this?
7 l  X1 ]6 n; ^) P! Dpunsihment for what???
% S4 H! S) f3 Z  T" Efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 m1 ^7 {6 h) T0 v7 Y" \2 h& Ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* Y3 W6 M( n; ^8 Q# ^/ S7 r% J# Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 y2 x8 D0 k! r  q$ M
what will u do???
) [# O6 o/ f9 P: i$ h  Cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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* Z7 `6 L' y* g+ w: fyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉4 J% |  D# V! @: m! g) l6 ]

9 @/ @$ Q% I% O- d8 o6 _. \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排4 y0 g8 Q& s. w/ z- D
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: F% T2 G( E% Q+ V
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 s9 z3 J6 D, B- M. \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' q* G( X' D4 ]! Cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
* `. X& l3 C( f# Y# _many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 ^3 o4 U7 h/ `+ Z9 t0 A
but why jesus need to do this?
9 _% Y* R1 X8 opunsihment for what???
! X7 G/ W5 [, [0 rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 w9 l$ b2 l0 b7 U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 z3 I7 g3 E: N/ |  S3 B. h' L% I# |
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . b& g; I3 c! o0 q: u: A6 N
what will u do???4 K$ {7 x3 R6 b+ A! j4 W
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 \. d( H3 U* I, G4 A

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& t' W: A6 c+ X% k% n* e

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5 S" p- m! @# E0 @: Kbro, did u know that there is a...

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, \& ~# x: _$ Q% y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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* o1 U- V4 w" K) R) j議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days% C* p) X9 F4 p
honestly, if there is jesus
9 [5 E1 l' q' h) ^2 a- l3 [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- c. A) z% |; S* D) o2 f1 b/ xwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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% h* [: p5 w" @yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
. H% ^% K0 s* y1 Kjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it* b3 x9 I  M& w7 S3 V" h
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......$ C8 D# c0 j4 i/ ^: H
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 F5 G. J3 |1 b
bro singgeihot and rest365days: o. m" Q% d1 T* ?- S
honestly, if there is jesus4 x" s. d$ n5 a8 _3 K$ H3 Q+ N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! N2 V! n0 _% i
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics5 B  H  Q2 ]& r4 A  J" O% Q% G
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: