jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
# t/ n9 w$ O8 Q' D3 F. X; l仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. l8 _. @9 L' i1 acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. t* r; \# E8 y: d
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 K. ~. Z: f( c% ^, I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 `1 l$ L! y3 X* O* h
but why jesus need to do this?
$ a1 e; g# i  X5 ^% e. \% C5 Mpunsihment for what???
4 @" D' ^& D  cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ t) h2 @( b2 W/ @try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% G, v& k1 o! Y+ F3 T4 rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! D$ }. e6 j# I- v7 b) r2 ]. z) E) @what will u do???
9 [2 }: M0 o  T, o; a8 A9 yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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$ n' G3 S1 }+ l咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉4 {4 W+ x- y0 U
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 i) K+ v# q, f/ I4 [  H

3 `+ t5 l5 L2 S7 Q咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- C) x! [7 G3 ~1 Y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 s1 r3 n- C" m9 Y! H! R$ scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 t, v6 L7 f+ x6 w6 o  j5 f7 ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 t3 x: X0 t; Pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 \1 [5 G! @; ^0 r5 y3 \2 S9 s
but why jesus need to do this?
1 q+ I) o/ h: D3 `0 ?! _& L8 a% [9 Hpunsihment for what???+ I% z- l/ D, @4 _
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! M4 O8 r8 A1 Y6 S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& m- e$ {( h, [$ N4 y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! V" t* N2 P2 Q; L! C6 k
what will u do???$ W) L+ ]# v$ |
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ E( U1 ~# ]1 S) f$ G5 Q* a

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 1 k0 x; X8 D- Y& K! {

- R0 W: w& \! c8 M議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days1 a; y% A' b& D
honestly, if there is jesus
0 t, y5 k! i, g3 j9 A% Zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) p, l  a/ M' `) N& L! Nwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* C  J% Q* i2 b, T. z9 W% b

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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0 j8 i& F8 }' l$ p0 c3 cyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* f9 |: u: e2 \# d: J/ J; E7 P' h
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 a3 k; |% L) }
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
, S9 I( g5 r! I9 |# q" ?now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus: I1 C5 @5 d( S2 S8 Y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) Z3 z# T- h6 s% |6 ~9 s5 Ywe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( E* X! J1 J, E! k; x) E0 o0 {2 H" n# x
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
( H; l! T4 q: V1 f. U& E自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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+ X- b! n0 O# f; Ehaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: