jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  m2 d9 q& V+ M. \) O+ S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 p* K7 @0 _6 C/ J7 ]7 @8 G7 Awhy this happen? just simple........punishment) P, v* P8 c' Z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% O! |9 K% \% K/ h/ G# @but why jesus need to do this?0 A2 @- b3 W! }, `- D4 S
punsihment for what???* q/ k+ v9 y9 r5 ~' r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% o) M' L; z* Z  W* ^; a
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" n( w8 o5 u3 b3 N& V2 [& L! Sbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : D/ G3 s4 p5 B+ A& Y# H
what will u do???
) @1 p1 ?9 `( {just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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% I. t2 z: b7 Y0 J但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 x9 \; j& v$ W& ?/ `
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; K: u- R2 E9 @$ K8 |bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 d, ]7 `8 L6 Y- h+ D' }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" m* h' p. I+ F& ?; V% t+ }/ Y, B2 Wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
6 D; k  n& x$ Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + s+ T( p" T: ^- ~3 c
but why jesus need to do this?
; i. Y9 Q& @* r; |punsihment for what???
* ?+ A% A: R( Q0 \9 R) \; Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) A5 I; z/ U3 wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; n& {+ ?& u1 N9 g2 x
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ K. K, x+ a: z- `8 cwhat will u do???9 _0 j: m% Z- T( {$ t2 G
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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8 n7 ^& K- X6 t. e8 [sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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, V6 O5 s2 g/ Y& k6 qbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days# s# }: |$ U6 k7 g3 W" g8 x
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:1 n7 E' n$ _, @! J9 H6 @6 P8 R' O
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it" ^2 r: q' B: n2 V
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
. r9 b* e# n8 q2 Pnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
% p3 p2 s9 Z3 B! x8 W3 _bro singgeihot and rest365days5 C( E" ?+ W4 v& Z- W' g
honestly, if there is jesus( }3 R" m* z% @* X) ~
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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( p) x' }4 u$ }4 u* N' _9 Yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
; D/ J' F, A% M$ q6 p' J, Z9 y1 B8 Iotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:% v8 ]% s1 D1 \. Q3 k3 i
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. }2 U( T. w# ~3 Q, thaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: