jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:8 F$ W* F' ?! ~/ P" C2 @  b+ G0 e
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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+ W& [1 p% A) P. M8 Q; \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, [, b  p6 z, C" E1 M0 B
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ ?; u# s. f" B5 ?
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# W3 S1 q4 }! L% T% emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( T3 w( ^$ M' f' l7 v& Z+ D" Zbut why jesus need to do this?
6 p- d5 G* y! ?. fpunsihment for what???
( n% ~% e' i, n. v0 U3 c! ]# Mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, w$ F' E' V7 A$ ]8 i: F' G5 ^
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???+ z( T% J5 Q' c' J' E3 J( x' h/ E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 e2 e' K1 Y# K+ D; Q9 p: n

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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1 ]7 b$ U. }. l( y3 F2 m咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉, r; Z8 O6 @% p; b" d/ E
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排: [; ~; E; e0 V/ s' U
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! p0 o1 q( r# o8 U$ U1 D% S2 s
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ y8 [) ?3 T4 O9 Kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- E5 e# X. l$ \
why this happen? just simple........punishment  L) l- D# u& V3 Y1 b8 I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( u* e; @0 o" H9 L
but why jesus need to do this?
& \' w, |, E) n- @  a3 N8 Lpunsihment for what???( k% x3 u6 x2 F% r2 {6 s
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 T/ i( I% {' x* Q8 w1 `try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' L' H. O1 M) @7 a/ ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( r' f, {9 g' c3 o
what will u do???
9 I1 f: A. T0 ]8 @! I9 Ljust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 9 }+ q9 F2 o- _7 W; p  V

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 r  G* J4 y8 _, e' G

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4 _" b8 s  }) z" r( [bro, did u know that there is a...

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3 ~: K9 k* K8 v! N) [. n% p好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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5 T. b5 W0 ~/ M5 L議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
* T5 ^2 C1 c" n# y* `honestly, if there is jesus
  [1 Q9 k. \5 i$ xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 }1 |: L. W( k4 C- M6 O

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life$ x. R7 W: g5 Q3 F3 x
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; Q; ^8 f" Z, S$ X/ e- m1 t. u
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......4 I5 d, J" U: l. t  R$ s) K3 c+ ?% X
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:+ u6 e1 h2 Y' ~+ e
bro singgeihot and rest365days' c! Y$ v5 @9 b0 ^2 z1 C7 J) ]
honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics! q  w; ^4 Q/ w' v6 G8 s
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
' |/ c) s4 g# g& M' ?自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 y1 M0 V0 W2 A9 uhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: