jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ a) O' M+ n' E  v7 E, t
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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- n4 r( M) N6 M  J; j& i; Jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 |: V, K3 W1 V
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 B/ n/ V  d# z; y: f! E$ j
why this happen? just simple........punishment
1 X; z% |( B6 amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 t6 @5 Z" v, z$ Jbut why jesus need to do this?
1 N  D6 Q- V: @9 O! H* Vpunsihment for what???
7 P# |" G( H2 s, N; ^  R0 Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ A8 t0 _1 g8 ?" \9 f: F
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ X5 n5 L, u! W3 ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   ~, C/ z3 A' ~, s6 c
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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* F" o) o; D) _9 r但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( f8 u5 n( ^/ d- R/ \0 G
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! o% g. A6 L- }' a4 \7 a/ ?# u
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; ~4 E4 j; c& y) d' T
why this happen? just simple........punishment
/ b" `/ U# S- n+ K+ B1 `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 A8 p8 D1 Y5 }2 K
but why jesus need to do this?
8 c, Y' b8 j* I; zpunsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) t" g' a0 ?% B% c' F) ^  [
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + E! O- G" w# \$ d2 |

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 n; ]( {& O- G  {
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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8 o" }/ l; F3 o& r好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 - M4 L( I' N4 t* ?, a, a
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 X3 E2 q  V9 Ahonestly, if there is jesus
1 U: i" O! G9 F. Z# c4 Q! C6 ^0 Rhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( j! _( x- A" N( J) F
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 z, Z8 v8 u# p1 {$ J# ~2 a, x: gjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 `' ^, K/ A! n$ u+ N* @& j
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 h; q, ?/ V6 t: {0 J9 y6 Inow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: U4 Y5 ?4 S* y2 V1 _! r
bro singgeihot and rest365days6 G& z  z; e2 d# ^+ \6 g5 z
honestly, if there is jesus
/ B+ a5 _- R' ~he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- ?* N  m# n$ k
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; F+ G( {# N& m+ d+ e
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: F) q! m* F/ C: T4 q- e' c
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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6 d5 _# n* w. h5 m- A6 zhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: