jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
3 ~. v' C2 T' R/ m/ [仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架1 G" K3 G6 h% M. `$ X" r
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& M3 Q! K7 G- U# E4 v
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; x7 ]3 U; ~: M$ j; ?7 q& E% [
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, t2 D- x4 E3 E; {3 e# m1 G, i( Fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % Y) _  h) s" j/ T2 l# I* u" l
but why jesus need to do this?
3 S- H: }% D# Q3 d+ K# jpunsihment for what???
+ X6 M9 Q1 V1 h4 ?1 ~1 p  H' s/ ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 T5 k, `& C; H) m; I6 N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 @, L) f" U* d" l! t2 cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- k/ ?- t- `# v1 d" F

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排' _" Z- X" E: a

# b5 S! h) `0 ?; L* a咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* Z' l2 n& t5 {! J* m
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% N' D( J/ ?3 s( {0 e8 r9 Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 }* W2 {; \7 \9 w" G- y0 Gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
1 {$ ^0 T5 ?# f1 L; n  N8 Emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( c0 h! Z7 X' ?! _' d9 h
but why jesus need to do this?" V8 m( X) X$ e  x% Y1 X( p
punsihment for what???1 P2 c" w) `4 o$ ?  N3 F8 A2 G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 i! Z6 K2 q2 a" \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; D0 U: `; s9 |/ q) H; L  zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" B. z% `- F! u# hwhat will u do???: m3 X3 v1 |+ u: z" K2 C8 P
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 V) [0 A6 ]  I! P6 J

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: M  ?7 z/ r/ \& [6 jsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 f% j" e) E5 h* _9 \# shonestly, if there is jesus! c; p& d0 A( t6 g& ]
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( ^4 c1 {% `) v4 ~* l/ f- }
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life$ J' T% w/ y2 e( G
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 k! B0 }: {" C% Eso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......! ]* K/ P8 E2 O5 K: ?# \" _. y
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 u, |5 i6 ]& Q+ F4 a2 v
bro singgeihot and rest365days
# u1 ^4 k5 R9 p; L1 F* Qhonestly, if there is jesus0 Z9 B4 y/ ]6 k! d0 }$ O7 [  \! b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( I# u' N$ P9 Ewe can't blow him :cool:

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7 f9 G9 B& D0 D9 T- l) V. E  runderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics/ z/ [' g' i% k7 K7 q8 Y2 J
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
$ s1 N; D% e' ?/ P1 x" O自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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- E, m  `7 L" M: chaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: