jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:0 z7 J* }! O& n
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架8 o& s4 P+ ?, }! U' i7 b
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- e( y! F+ }- _! r5 ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 J6 X- a4 u* [4 b7 Lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 W1 Q& S3 Q% v+ m) |9 n
why this happen? just simple........punishment! s: G+ L; `: N: h& z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( J- Y8 L$ T( \
but why jesus need to do this?6 ?: @: L* C( o0 y1 U
punsihment for what???& ]- K' e( n, D( u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& f$ K; U* C" Q( d+ [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 F! m. i3 ~! U% \1 V
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; y: o/ T& S, q
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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4 S5 r* T5 n. d1 u" e' ]& r但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) R! j1 k1 P. j9 S
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& [# ^# h1 h4 }1 S$ x% n0 j: C$ kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 s$ {7 j8 E3 m! s; T
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( o/ |* \! c+ J
why this happen? just simple........punishment! f) J7 p6 p- J6 e2 J1 P
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ Q: l" ]9 R+ b1 O  @9 hbut why jesus need to do this?
, W0 J5 W; k* N" N* {7 e% m) Dpunsihment for what???
$ b+ Q  l7 ?' w, Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ T# M5 a8 ^2 f7 E2 Ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: L$ H6 O8 T$ }5 S( S* B& j* ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ {+ Z8 i' A+ m& S: Bwhat will u do???  N2 R# A, m  q3 H
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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# d) L/ M+ `' q; S6 r; Z$ P& d好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " P+ g; {8 r) v7 n
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ N6 \8 f% R. T6 e
honestly, if there is jesus
0 a; h. c$ _. e7 P0 _  G4 G  Q- Ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:! q  o4 o# E( d/ u
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 v- z0 R7 J" w0 N) y1 z6 qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it  C* w, Z  H- s7 Z# c7 T' ^0 e0 t; u+ ~
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
  j) W- m4 w# j% Xnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
6 A. m2 @3 G, H& Z- l2 O6 Dbro singgeihot and rest365days1 P9 W- e; c8 c+ \8 x. ^$ ]1 p
honestly, if there is jesus. T! }; p+ j* S" I0 p. r3 k2 z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& u7 V5 u$ Z% y6 N3 @$ K& @
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 v  B5 t: ^& O9 S1 T% h' ~
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# N# j8 X1 @, x自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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* h' u# l. t. t& j6 @2 T9 _haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: