jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  d; G- x5 C1 |# z- G仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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8 ^' x6 j3 @' D1 y0 Zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 G' h5 b& h# y+ E8 }7 Scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: T. y5 z, r; H6 `1 Q8 `why this happen? just simple........punishment5 p0 L; J7 R0 _, E: R: n
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* n% Q% ]! P9 l, Ebut why jesus need to do this?# d" g/ `: I. T
punsihment for what???/ F' M9 F3 W, O& i, f) |1 G8 }
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) P! s" D" {) Q- P
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 A' G$ [5 R% C+ s* ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 _4 F) |( ^6 i/ I3 R0 m  k
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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, u; ?$ q3 u" qyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; x+ D$ |! R1 P- C' ~8 P0 \
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  O; \" O. `. S8 E- Tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# D5 G, E, ?" s, Scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 Z6 n! W# E$ q# \& S
why this happen? just simple........punishment, s' a, p& Z& }) t% l, F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 P5 q. o4 h+ R' N; R
but why jesus need to do this?
' ~3 U# W; Q# ]5 Zpunsihment for what???1 s4 i: Q% b2 P/ p+ Q  H$ t/ A" K
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 f( K5 s( E: @# {! w7 ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- M- X( }3 p* zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, r5 Q1 {# p8 h2 K: s4 Y; awhat will u do???
# x+ C& S9 ^. p  d5 c8 P/ l/ Djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, # M4 C/ Y3 P" p7 A

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! {/ T  J: F" j7 _% G7 i

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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* B7 B. d! e3 b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 5 B! O+ l# J8 C
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ S& N% _& S5 O+ p: K* L
honestly, if there is jesus* _4 w, b, {! \: `5 [9 n/ [% N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus1 ~( Q- ^6 e* _3 |9 j' |  y1 H
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  l3 G6 y- a3 ~8 L
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; y0 g- n7 B5 r/ ?& M/ b' A* c( c* sjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
( i) Y9 Q- d. Q; a! S4 M! oso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......3 Z( z, Z1 A" |0 p1 R1 s
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
* F& E4 I9 T1 f8 ]2 z" Pbro singgeihot and rest365days8 N( v' [: n9 q$ E7 G* @+ Q: e
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ ]* D, t% X! Z" L
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ Z) H" d. J5 q& ?7 L1 L4 khaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: