jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:! J# r; H- m4 B2 `1 \
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架& }) Q" g1 U5 t6 s. w* `
...

( ^, Q5 o+ b5 M& Q: e
* _. B, b% e' b0 H0 y& b) jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 z$ J, y6 ]4 S8 Y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 n6 v/ d( A# c  k; n% x! Xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment% F, V$ ^  G6 N, d% Z: t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , u9 G9 @$ X/ l
but why jesus need to do this?  Y4 M9 N: S1 @8 ~; f! f: o
punsihment for what???  c- \6 `2 c* q" s
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 z3 i: i8 n( d7 ]" u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& B: Z9 J. \: n' V* D! R* K; ~
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% |# T% Q% v# i/ S2 E# l: W' Hwhat will u do???
' j7 r- I* f+ A& j: k/ G" E9 [just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:# d- ^* o+ G; r* e' ]! O
* S1 `; B9 w5 x5 ^, A- d
" H7 P& g5 o, v
yes, what did u think is what i...

1 ^. r0 |: e6 n* a- Y: g$ d' [; s9 }' j, A5 A* a
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
8 W8 N" z. F+ t1 T- o) B- |1 Y& N' F
但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排$ @$ i) G. _) V9 X* M  ~
# g& x, Q% w7 z% ~
咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" D. ~' ~# H/ h) ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' v1 U0 |" k" {+ Tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 r. b5 v+ ~/ rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 N& G. i7 p% W" P: a( vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- e) }9 t/ A( \6 r" abut why jesus need to do this?; q- y1 n) ^+ C* @* d
punsihment for what???. g7 ^% u0 p. Z6 k$ x7 n6 Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% v) Y! R% W) c$ n! K) |% Stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' o3 _0 b2 @) n* b. h& U
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 G3 K- c8 t* n, L6 ^
what will u do???
$ Z  R% a2 p# w1 [4 ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 p7 R' a- [1 x4 Y

7 D8 I, p* v' K. d/ L8 r% k2 _. e6 K
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
5 N. Z" [3 N" s
( c9 g( k0 B, y; H
2 H. d* x6 ?' v2 wbro, did u know that there is a...

. e5 Q, O& I4 B) L* E2 H6 S
- l2 R9 B4 ]# H; I4 Z: ~; x' O' @: `$ }! J5 R. C& J  Y3 C
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ n/ {8 b7 e  W

- l# @5 O3 H0 D  J$ A8 N議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ [  O: w' G7 x) [6 i
honestly, if there is jesus
4 H* y3 v% l9 b9 H- Vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* `6 `' G2 l2 v# R1 Z1 w- [" X. [
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:9 p# c+ v, V* I2 a: c
! u0 D" B7 c, ^$ g
9 k' O7 w. `; e( u+ F
$ b; t3 T5 Y& c; ?, F
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

& |3 j8 p; w( J! ?- n6 h$ R8 N  o3 }

& Q1 x# C& s, x8 ^- y; q8 K- Hyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# i* d2 v( Y9 p! s4 Q5 l/ H
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 S1 W# o) F: P& `+ mso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......, A/ u* V  S  n1 G
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( D# O: i! e' f/ j/ m) d' h" ]; h
bro singgeihot and rest365days
- A- x" }, f/ T1 n7 J  i4 ?2 uhonestly, if there is jesus3 w$ L* d$ p: y1 l3 _! M
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 m9 y7 K( b8 c% c) j0 N  n
we can't blow him :cool:

& c: I. N' i( m, g
/ w2 Q6 ]8 ?3 L9 @6 X: z
understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
% J/ R# f  _/ z! Dotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" ]9 x& M' X; {
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

$ h4 P3 R3 m- K& Z' t! g. T6 {% C# X
9 s- g0 g- z' Rhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: