jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:. y! g) i6 O$ r/ F
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架+ @0 {) B/ x0 b) x! p
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  F, r# u' a. ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" K) F0 \! t4 _1 k, ?& gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
; D5 M; J: f7 D4 Y5 U/ P5 Kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , E/ q+ K  P4 V; u7 F
but why jesus need to do this?, Q+ ?/ h9 x" I
punsihment for what???2 G2 f! S* }8 R  S; V  U& a$ j/ a  y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ s2 Q+ w/ ?+ A. G5 F8 u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ P: B& S) }# Ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 n3 g8 _: y2 l9 x: }: w& q3 q
what will u do???
; `$ w- _- z$ ^& E4 Gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:9 v. D+ W/ ~. U' R9 q
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉7 p2 O7 {  [3 Z! }3 S# S  O4 h8 E

3 t& i; J: w2 U: {" m但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ l1 R5 f2 w! N! x. ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& S# X& B  l" h5 lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 ^, K7 ^6 g" `$ w( ^# ^" b0 s- e
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# N- l6 o: Y4 z& j# Dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % g. {5 c6 P# _* a* u8 u; {
but why jesus need to do this?
. X! j! B0 c4 u6 E6 o; J( o& Wpunsihment for what???8 M5 i1 l# g  p$ s. q0 r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# S" t+ l' h8 Z" r" q: g1 |
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 q4 `! g/ x4 E% ?- q) Y; Lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ P  v( i* K  g* D( Ywhat will u do???6 @. |$ G4 A6 c  g9 \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 C: _4 m/ i& Z$ c+ o$ e- v  p: c' T" R7 t
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$ x) O, x6 n% y# Y# A  r" _好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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+ T: X7 m( b$ a5 q' z7 v& R議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 X6 a& Q: B% i1 x) ^
honestly, if there is jesus
( W, S- N' R3 ]he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 \+ Y9 S' g# J% s- f8 `we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:5 ?3 w' _" O. f. L- c) O6 W

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" m9 m" G, F4 H6 D: [yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; e$ ]8 i0 L( |4 W8 ^! x3 y) ~- tjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it0 Z3 B3 O* P& S3 s- B. A2 S( h- s. U
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......' _& c7 y0 q* Z% r& g
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% N: Q8 t* C! ?: ]2 R
bro singgeihot and rest365days, q, i3 X1 V0 Z" m
honestly, if there is jesus
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+ [! {& ]/ k1 T: Qwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics& j; `1 S/ H2 K8 d6 x" Q
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
% k/ ?0 C' ?( n' n$ F; j自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: