jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:. h5 ~. c. Y, C) ]+ V- T
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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& E8 m$ ~6 ^- H5 X$ r" t) r: Qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- L/ ?7 k& H( p" J) w* dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& B& o: h4 B8 P2 I  l9 Awhy this happen? just simple........punishment, C& L7 `% k; `& a; s2 A
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) g& z* \* n/ U0 I: V9 }but why jesus need to do this?
' P$ u$ p/ y$ t7 m& \; z3 G, apunsihment for what???
1 m6 x- h9 n+ s( ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" e5 o+ F5 u7 j+ u! |% Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 ^1 F; Q+ t. i% H, l9 S$ q- \but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! t, F2 X+ O3 j3 p' Lwhat will u do???
8 p- T6 w( k* H0 C% h& @( c, A2 ~3 djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:/ @5 R" b. `+ E/ H! y
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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" a% N& m; {* D# F. F咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 B" |' S% I8 c$ Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 ~4 j. U. J; k. p% X, _" kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  x) z. \1 s( D
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 `' ~/ ~5 d/ F3 ?! Z; u5 D. v
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 ^9 I4 C, g. ?) C1 B7 ], [# ^but why jesus need to do this?
- ?6 @/ b" @% O9 q, ]punsihment for what???
3 E9 x( ?9 f7 L9 ]9 ]% Z2 e, Gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 z& G4 w  v0 q1 k. V" }
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  P4 E& h! J4 ^' L6 Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' z; c8 a& h2 [* ]what will u do???9 U  m% l8 T' f$ K; \* f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( Q- s1 ?2 y( d6 ]

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2 E* C7 H0 |4 F. U0 K7 p2 Lbro, did u know that there is a...

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' o6 g. n& q$ }; p/ x2 i好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 7 C5 Y. w( w4 G  r( g0 ]  n
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
% @1 F; Q* e7 Y1 ihonestly, if there is jesus
$ J9 m) U# h& S, ]9 u8 Yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 G, W. X( i. d8 q- j5 t. A$ a
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:" ~' ?' j& p5 w, L6 S

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 d7 n9 N+ b6 n5 w3 \+ d
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:9 d* d* s6 F; M: J$ a
bro singgeihot and rest365days
! P$ q! \9 ^) z5 ^" P( xhonestly, if there is jesus9 D) l5 ]8 P3 }, @5 p
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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3 y) W4 K5 N3 {5 A9 m2 wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% T/ e4 y7 `. B5 i: g- S
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
( k. p; d1 Q3 @/ D5 e4 T  K自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: