jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:" B# |/ N% `8 w6 ]( z% G
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架" S9 L1 g. W" c) c" ]
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 C  O! x+ {$ N' j: @. c; R, G& bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 v+ Z. S" ~  i* }8 ?( n, }
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 t  u7 w% v3 w& `0 W1 emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) D5 h$ i* \$ s3 f. S
but why jesus need to do this?" l2 t9 i7 K0 ?6 m) F
punsihment for what???
) r+ g' k+ ?4 a! Hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. K2 e" W, G2 @" o  m1 `$ K0 f
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 a' j( n; g2 t' |2 obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
# [, F. ]$ v- f- ?* @; Zwhat will u do???, I8 ~5 S$ P' F, \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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) Z" C+ {: B7 syes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 R" K. C/ {. i3 Y  }( k
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" Z, }5 F" Q3 q+ ^! O$ e* V( V$ j

" X" O" G5 v$ M3 s) T$ \4 U; W咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ H& b5 Z3 H4 I9 bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% P. d3 ^+ J& _& jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 P2 j" z0 D+ fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment, c; l2 D$ b; {* X9 }
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 L! f. C: M' i' Q4 f3 R
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( m9 k0 x7 u# v1 S, m
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 J" [4 T1 @3 a2 a5 h! Vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 }5 t: D: p+ f; m
what will u do???3 J9 F' z4 }0 Q" m* G9 X
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " N2 @! K% T+ @, ~8 W' E

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& u" d- e% k+ i$ L8 o

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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5 I2 G3 o, t( {( d) A4 W6 D好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 5 ]! ?6 w: M5 o6 A) m3 }
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 F7 ]4 A' h3 l. r: ~: g3 Jhonestly, if there is jesus6 f- i) R4 s$ k# R. t2 A
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 b/ `! k7 W) _, M$ g& ?we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:: D: X' m. c4 J4 ^0 B" C. s' ?

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life" G3 s; O/ i) R6 [8 v% J( u
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
7 z5 I1 m3 W% }: n9 F  x" a  w3 T- Zso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 U+ L* ~% `5 |$ c: E0 Cnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:! a" i; }6 f& _. x4 K/ A( o
bro singgeihot and rest365days. A2 z# n( B: J
honestly, if there is jesus
. l, d3 n# s, k: E; W. Ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ v- x( }/ @7 }, U
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
* C0 p3 A/ u# `6 L8 |' notherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
  G; Q9 ~' q/ F7 D8 L: L自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: