jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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# ^* ~# S' S$ b- R, b$ @bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 T0 }! d) q) }7 D7 i; l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. N7 T: m2 q1 D  h$ E$ [why this happen? just simple........punishment
  X6 V) g& O2 H. E# W) I) v) zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 y/ @/ B) [: n; {- z% Pbut why jesus need to do this?
) \, z, Z. g# z9 D5 v, ?punsihment for what???
5 s. V% `5 w5 a! Q9 E% m, u4 m' mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( L+ t0 {$ z3 Z! C' {: j2 d, a
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 M( R& v, E  }/ V+ D1 W, }( Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: h) M# g3 S7 q/ Lwhat will u do???# F* Q4 E5 H/ B2 O
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:! m6 A  y! N1 {" R: Z
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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2 ^/ X* E! s: P& S, B6 l6 G5 d$ U+ `) _但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 I" k* r$ ~4 X' A5 |! R

. P7 s- |6 Y0 r" H6 X; B咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 a' |1 N; U; obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ C# _# e9 F  H# {  }  Dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 I) |( f$ z! ~; k/ c
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ l( `7 \  h+ z% N
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ t6 S, j+ u. j5 I) Y. u  B7 s$ bbut why jesus need to do this?
4 S% V. I8 o7 l. S/ Z- v- e- g+ p2 U3 Npunsihment for what???
* T6 {, a5 j; N1 nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. ~$ E, [% d! s. Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 s0 g  [" _! Pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 g  s$ d" s3 O* p7 X2 q& P) E
what will u do???
3 h, }5 K$ ~( B' I4 S" K/ S. W! Ljust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 `/ [9 D5 I- w

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& b4 I1 s4 q/ c" s7 wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" w8 X+ `  w+ w5 t, E

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ) O7 O) p% Q  Q: X6 C

1 A8 j# F2 C+ Y3 x議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 t0 Z, C6 y: Phonestly, if there is jesus1 l% A1 u3 D# `5 r7 m0 t
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! y$ t4 I3 C' H* b; Z/ z: H( e" W4 F! ~we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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* A! u0 J! I/ N. w. V4 q- h+ y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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* M( P9 n3 m1 ]$ ~yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
* K- J- b5 u3 T5 K/ w2 ]just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% b. e3 W& B$ n( p
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......* k- A  [' a7 y5 g
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  `  I6 G2 T" ~* r) f1 k0 Y
bro singgeihot and rest365days
( Y7 b1 o* u) L' x9 @  V0 Z$ O& Vhonestly, if there is jesus7 z, G3 a( I4 J& Y( f: r5 f, u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 R: ~5 A$ M* R- R8 }# K5 ]we can't blow him :cool:

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; s$ l0 ?! N# P, O4 f! A) S) a. [" Munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
0 p  ]) w/ }% b  o4 c5 qotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
6 T( y' Y+ W, h% u" `自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. \+ f& o5 U; ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: