jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
! ]: s2 f' i( H( i5 E! H仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 R; L* D4 v2 N- xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 q% w0 p8 j, T% q8 I
why this happen? just simple........punishment
% ?( h/ T* ~( C! ~- X! i! D: amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ F, `* p' {. ~/ ubut why jesus need to do this?
% I" E0 D1 S) G' N; Opunsihment for what???
2 C9 I: O. t$ P8 L! Efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 }( C0 ~7 f5 l2 d6 D" ], @
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 t* F% [+ S$ K0 |
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 N  g7 W$ w) k9 g
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ ^! g; ?9 Y- A* Y8 d
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: ^$ L4 H0 a& Ryes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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* i, m+ {' ^& ?$ a  T% w) j但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ ?' z2 u$ ?3 m8 Q+ C

- Z0 i2 ]. i/ N# E# @4 k. z咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ T& H: d! m/ r2 u) a* Q
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 a2 E9 K+ v# g% q) D  tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% ?! [0 f3 g, l1 A3 w( n! twhy this happen? just simple........punishment( `8 f( ?* \1 c) n: B/ F* e
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% E0 D0 X" S% c, V" I: Lbut why jesus need to do this?
5 f) G7 W- m. ]- ]4 F+ A5 fpunsihment for what???* V/ A; `- t( y/ ?) F
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ _& f! n$ J" N( X4 p  ]4 h) i, F2 O1 qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 e* U$ Q& u4 m# v( J* }5 E  Vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 m4 `6 a8 }. e, u: E- X" F3 J8 d( hwhat will u do???
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% R2 q& @- S- esorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: L4 R) B* n! d3 }* [
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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; [) Y; D' R8 [4 R7 L好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! ~9 Q$ l, W' O* Q) [- ^8 l) L2 w8 u

5 c- B2 f4 X: z! a' N" u議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 b  @- o! [# p' G# v2 W# k- ~/ jhonestly, if there is jesus1 ~: i& `$ g" z& ?3 n, l) u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; i. _! |( X: @' ?# l$ q
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:( G! h8 ]; @) D: d$ q

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
7 L0 J" o- ?2 a7 Ujust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: w. t/ d. c. ~$ j
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
8 r2 k/ \- f/ Y( j; f6 Dnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, h8 N. J7 r' L; m$ ?
bro singgeihot and rest365days
" [! x# E+ D0 |honestly, if there is jesus
( q8 Q, o7 |# N- D& w7 Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. g" E) t$ l* V0 pwe can't blow him :cool:

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' j$ w- O! y1 t# Bunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( Q/ M4 C3 G7 g% z8 k
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) `2 B& A& W, I# \" z3 s
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: