jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
3 y2 l& r8 P+ X# }2 o8 t仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架6 S& k5 k6 g. G8 V, f( `
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 x5 N+ s& O6 p) b- d* e0 S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 @% o/ ?1 r) i( pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
7 S/ T% |. j. mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" K2 [3 y0 i9 e( c0 T8 B4 fbut why jesus need to do this?
3 G0 S5 S/ g# e8 Y" m; r; P# Ypunsihment for what???
$ n1 b- v# n  ]for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 K; D% h2 l0 G" m: _/ a( Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& S: \# v% X, ~; ?) W( z& P- f
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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, Z2 A& @. ^2 m  mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:! D  Q2 X& M/ i( M% Q2 x, l
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" v6 x5 w3 {0 w  X" y+ x
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" S$ z& k7 S- S/ Zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% {" Y( }; q' H' A9 Gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 L) t" `1 s. y1 Vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
: ]( W, z) f% \  {9 c! Y& fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 R7 {. y$ P: y  v) P! K, `5 m7 Ibut why jesus need to do this?
) i# V+ }) p( Npunsihment for what???
& Y) V. ?8 x; }+ |; q% Ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- p* H9 f8 e6 q, r' a5 n9 R7 }
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 |: v4 }" F2 U
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 c% H" K3 k/ Q" i9 A5 ^
what will u do???- u" V- E7 W, c( k4 R; F2 ?2 y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , Y9 Z0 Z$ k5 b0 U

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: ^0 L; v: Z( g* n* ^! o. Q

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days* f8 N$ f0 h5 S% w' Z; S  ~
honestly, if there is jesus
: G/ W0 F# {* Y6 U6 t( Bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 H. a5 i: {0 ?4 y- S8 ~9 Hwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
) N& |& P& W- B- o& S& m* ijust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# f/ x5 a4 v# e8 q4 \so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
% e+ @0 \$ }) W) _% ^4 Enow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:' r; q- o8 h! Z+ G, {; U
bro singgeihot and rest365days. w* \. U6 K3 q& x
honestly, if there is jesus
$ c% V( f8 Y* C9 c# g2 Q2 rhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 n3 F' V0 D' Pwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
. ~3 |8 w: B3 N% \/ J9 p2 Wotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: T+ n+ q# c8 Y! {: w, ]' }
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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! y: h, ]+ u: x# X' c* Ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: