jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:% l. L2 S: _! V+ l' Z" s* g3 ~
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架2 N$ [$ l0 N9 R; W  Q
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  I, W+ n5 X' G+ ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& L9 i% s& |' M& Ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 o6 w, Y" F' D, p% p' xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment7 n7 [0 g* x# S6 p) @* s
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, H, F7 P  r& C- d0 r4 Fbut why jesus need to do this?
: r  N2 m+ A, q/ ~9 |punsihment for what???% f: D7 R7 N- Y2 D& @
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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" }7 {9 R. M" R0 O咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; w: Q! x$ r7 s& ]1 O2 K
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排, M( l( Q! ?( q/ Y, D$ A1 x2 F

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# X5 [, P6 ]) g: ^0 {( L
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ s" y' Y/ a* v0 n# wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 g2 |: d$ H5 {% P3 g8 ~3 y' t  z) hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment( h: k# P  @( z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 r$ V, e( _# n. Y, ?+ r, F7 `
but why jesus need to do this?
9 S! ]# F+ i7 G2 e3 U0 rpunsihment for what???
: ~0 W# c; |0 afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ |# L5 L: t* K! u# jwhat will u do???: L2 P5 U# |0 d4 c
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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) l7 M5 a/ i* N# X" J- F) h好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; Y0 ?) o; {4 ^( P. M

5 [. D+ n; }5 E* R議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 r0 L7 @  ]8 m7 W  B
honestly, if there is jesus
2 A3 _5 b( T+ G& g% bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 @3 T- e! A3 x$ Swe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:" h, W+ t# ~6 m# J( M3 K  ]
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$ q( J* I5 w( Eyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( z& M  y$ M0 }* h6 T# B8 I7 Y) q
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
8 Z7 V# ?7 a9 Z; A. zso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....../ Y7 L; W5 ?( j! U3 X, `% O
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:& @# m  E/ l" M$ }8 l' c, O7 K
bro singgeihot and rest365days
* s1 p/ U. ?" C5 Zhonestly, if there is jesus
. F6 U8 z9 v' {he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. b7 R& a8 ?$ u, z9 V: Mwe can't blow him :cool:

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1 l$ _7 T5 J6 t$ K- Ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics1 n6 f7 m" c7 N5 r1 l
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: