jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:4 T* ?; j1 A  |' j3 R$ [# f2 m
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架4 ~5 @% @. \+ Y0 w3 T
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3 S7 c* b( l/ v4 D, V- Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 F* z% I: L$ h8 R
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  V9 w% R8 F/ j3 f( lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! f8 d1 [; Q( k5 Hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ z/ t9 o2 y7 `# A3 y  G1 dbut why jesus need to do this?
/ t0 W* e" S$ _( x9 q8 opunsihment for what???
5 b$ b0 [0 B- F% s# ~1 `for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# G% v# g5 `# P5 J. \' L4 ^9 vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 \* d6 Z" U; D- }- v
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 ?) F0 t( \- g; t9 F: y0 ^
what will u do???
% F2 x% w6 i0 t. _& J5 }. Yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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) W2 p- p# |. ^7 G. P+ lyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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8 ^8 o& q/ J( q3 `! R/ J: @1 d但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排$ x4 [* l; e& W5 P  u: l

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 b$ N# ~  F: r" X0 S: V5 E$ q' pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 J8 H" X9 T% V2 m' ?+ O6 O. @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: B. k% P7 J/ S3 O* c3 X
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' m( \, N( q( _many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 P/ N/ C1 O8 A# o8 G
but why jesus need to do this?% i  k2 A8 H4 P- h1 h% z5 D2 Z
punsihment for what???9 L0 O! ], x. z, g" u/ I
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 Y% b. i1 _4 Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! h& B# g# `. ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ W; O! s7 m  a0 _, O6 N
what will u do???
' @+ E9 ]. B0 K# kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 T/ q3 y% o$ J) k8 t

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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, F! d8 f9 ~5 O  x) k好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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; [, @) |6 c  J, |: v; Q議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- u/ A, p; E( s# l4 V( S2 k6 |
honestly, if there is jesus
6 f7 K  D- h1 q! C- j6 vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% d" F( _; r4 b2 p& `# Pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# \- ^; T9 k  ~% y7 r2 x$ c

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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5 U# j$ X2 V8 D: w4 x1 Kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
3 K0 s' U1 f$ p& v( j% b, {$ w. Ejust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ N  i  t  K* _0 H& N5 Iso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
+ y' h1 b( u) H9 r6 p! \now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 n8 r$ N) Z6 V
bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 Z" t2 y* f! r' C! W( qhonestly, if there is jesus) U6 P3 Q4 _# ]8 k' C8 r
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 q+ n0 m; H: g6 C
we can't blow him :cool:

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/ {3 [1 n5 L4 ?' g1 y) Vunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
- Q$ v; |9 E- B8 Z2 uotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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# T" N  t! \* i! y% n8 F) Fhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: