jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# m9 R) S8 O7 P4 f+ v8 Q
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 t+ q8 }2 G$ F) h2 k, v+ A2 o4 vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" }: L8 @- z1 _; B5 K9 Q7 d
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# O% x" X- m9 q! x4 }many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& k" c: U. \+ r# ebut why jesus need to do this?
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: i/ M* E0 {8 |& x3 I' Z6 Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# F6 Z9 m/ s9 F, f- [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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( c! p" x, S+ a/ _% z咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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, O( A, p* {8 u* y6 z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) V- ~" ^! {' Q8 M* s: d
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ o. v0 w, l: Q- v  ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 n1 k, l0 V1 R; b8 z" B& B, C  Fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, n/ c( [- E$ p( P- m; M- h  cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment; }) j6 [5 q* Y% i
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; A- E) e' a7 [( J4 Qbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 M$ h8 D# t/ n6 i9 ~; `% [+ e; Qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 F. p& ^- \* L9 @7 r" A. |8 }but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
# {( g) d* L# G7 Uwhat will u do???
' H: y) z9 o  U, s( Fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 f& i* [4 p. p( e+ n* @

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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, D0 |( [# v; {& B2 C% N+ U; Rbro, did u know that there is a...

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, T; W5 f% t3 _4 o( Y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 % [- d! ?7 \9 C+ D: j$ c
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days9 _/ V! H* ?$ s) l
honestly, if there is jesus! R7 n/ l# Y3 Q" |7 O- Y2 y, B+ U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, q; ~% g3 `  F2 r' Q, R! y
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:+ }  _; t  D0 s4 w3 p; W
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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: U7 Y2 Q) F' Y; Z* h( c3 lyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life/ Q. n9 M" Y" u3 ?9 d2 ^" S* t0 }* O
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' D) d, i% Y9 q$ H
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......, _0 \6 N+ K  b8 X8 j
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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8 Z/ }9 ^/ f5 g4 @; S$ runderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
  v+ N6 j" e/ u# Hotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( @9 L5 d1 d. t0 o8 I4 j7 m8 V% @4 N
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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5 v8 I. ?+ V) Ehaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: