jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:8 Q# L# h& }5 N  [8 T0 r' e7 c& g/ ]
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架. Q! X0 X1 o2 o: y% D
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3 L+ q3 E( P* W4 r3 Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 E& U4 z: q. }1 y: T7 T8 C
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 o% Z0 ~! Z( y: }0 B8 K% Y7 ~why this happen? just simple........punishment5 E7 D& H3 g  _6 E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , \) }3 N  {5 C3 r% I; ]0 K, |
but why jesus need to do this?' V: ~1 H4 e) Q# z' ]
punsihment for what???* a7 ]( P3 |" C, {& P
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 [& ]' X. L2 }. J2 r) x' T( r! Rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' M' u$ h; }4 b6 M) g$ N! \. n  ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . n+ [  A# F1 t5 F$ U# g+ x
what will u do???" }1 I3 c6 L( w0 W( @/ Z/ [2 w0 O2 s
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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9 e  e, `+ X7 F3 {) @yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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2 U. s+ J8 O" o- v3 E( D# R但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. S& [& q# I: n# R6 ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' R( [( ^( T" A9 ]comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: G7 `, K) Y# W1 Z( Z$ I, D/ d
why this happen? just simple........punishment; W; O. c5 Y. ^$ r% @
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 N' j9 g! R9 C$ \2 g. r
but why jesus need to do this?  r2 O6 M% ?: p7 A& W
punsihment for what???6 q) i& w, Q7 x! W( h7 {; f
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 ~7 r. F5 o6 M) a$ K. [. g/ C7 V
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" `$ T" K( M8 U- Cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  D0 g' s; u4 Fwhat will u do???0 x6 V; }" j$ V+ q7 M" t2 s
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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0 p8 Z. l( T8 \( O+ H- Z$ [sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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: o+ i3 j; v+ t; C議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" u. ^; k4 A0 T8 R$ p8 o- n- @3 ~honestly, if there is jesus
, ?$ H7 Z. S( [" Whe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
& K' x1 _  n8 f: c* gwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ _( v& A9 N$ z3 }

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9 }( J8 S  Y; ]4 e% m3 D8 q( z9 ~好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
+ C5 [4 U- c8 O0 K4 f6 n7 y+ U" `5 [just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
* ~" R9 m, S$ @: P& z) H# T/ Uso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
+ V2 R! S* n; X. s2 {now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
* }" P$ f3 O6 q' l; ~1 _bro singgeihot and rest365days8 Y; @* b+ V3 L) [) O5 _" k' G
honestly, if there is jesus. l$ x" h* Y6 k* t
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 t1 c7 a/ C5 Q- B
we can't blow him :cool:

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7 ?# `. H8 n- L( p' Nunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 r( \: X2 @+ `
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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# [0 Z0 n7 Q. c; Fhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: