jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
6 J. k- Z9 a# o" ^  \; w仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架3 S/ `3 x" J/ ^5 v, I( Z$ ]
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ {! K8 x- M# H6 a
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 i, g3 v2 y; [# }why this happen? just simple........punishment, `9 G, @. v3 N4 ~6 n: ?
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( G% t# U) u; L
but why jesus need to do this?# m: d  R% O' J7 M# u9 n
punsihment for what???
0 |5 A. j% ^4 v7 {( ^! J1 Yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 x* x6 O  E9 b' K: xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" H0 X- \. x: j0 J( V6 V2 ]3 tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # s7 ]9 ~+ z6 \' C: G( c0 [
what will u do???
: U0 C) o$ h5 G* D  i- Ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 e' P7 @, p9 Z2 c/ x& L9 y
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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# B4 E# k' b# u咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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- S; [# T! k. c5 y1 h3 W6 ]6 q咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ [# Z3 L% ^0 D8 c0 ^
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% G# c5 U* E  W8 W+ T
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- f9 |3 E6 {) r
why this happen? just simple........punishment, \; `9 F4 z) `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 w& }) ^" K' p: ?$ a( h' ?8 Y
but why jesus need to do this?
( o2 {5 C6 B. o. t4 B! C3 V- Ipunsihment for what???
, \- J4 A! I8 U7 K& F# B' b7 w/ w, C! ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 \- e/ G6 I+ e( Q4 J  a1 Ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% Q, h, f  H& m9 s3 Z* a
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % V$ U! {  k: ]; K$ J! \3 I9 v2 T
what will u do???2 k5 \9 K$ H3 {- b, s/ Q' p
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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/ ?) L7 z) ^7 S/ nsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) ^. |5 v- x4 f" ^% X

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8 L: n: {3 M9 K- T4 B* {bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 }8 s2 J$ a8 g& ~: P! R. I, u

1 [' b# t3 P1 g議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 p4 W) c( F% j/ mhonestly, if there is jesus0 d/ q) z- T% s$ Z, A
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 W- h- ^7 W1 p% q' A$ e% I
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 `1 e2 |/ O/ @+ K! U- T/ W
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3 Q! w# G" ^+ O# F  i* a2 M" tyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ _3 V  O8 o2 Ejust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 Z" ^& ?6 x/ h$ e+ [so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......- x0 ~3 h3 B0 ?8 D+ S( \
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! L0 b/ h; A$ E& Fbro singgeihot and rest365days9 b+ n# u% j# o1 M( O3 h7 A
honestly, if there is jesus. n$ e& \+ o) j1 Q4 j+ U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. ^. w! f( V0 b. W6 Q
we can't blow him :cool:

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) P% x8 w* M- [; x9 Punderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
4 h3 ~( w! H/ A2 z% Totherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:$ |5 ~3 @0 a9 {2 ?9 `: }" {* T
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: