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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:8 z4 t( m- f9 K
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到( Z, [7 q2 y" c3 m# r
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!  f4 L4 p' U  N/ \$ I' d

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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....* v# h" u8 k- Y+ u+ P' m- i
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!5 l6 m) \8 [3 b1 E" H! ?% S
我只不過微小的基督徒...................' j, N( @4 ?$ W. O8 w/ ~) I6 P
真的!!這不是反話
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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" p. N  I2 {: Y" @' s在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:: I  ?8 D9 z( V; D) X& A% z  k
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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+ g9 s/ r. @1 S# DLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo6 i0 X# g/ q8 {

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
$ ]7 q' A5 ]* l; HYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....2 n; |* ~# p  U
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......$ f% F6 p! \: y3 n  D+ x( O
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 }7 C: Y/ C4 x如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
2 e; B. v; H1 e2 |. Y而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~  o) e0 ?; p3 X" Z

! f& y+ p* |3 T9 z7 I) f9 U導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
8 F% ^3 U" m/ p- [好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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& j* O/ M9 F- c! u一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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6 r' a. c: G7 \) n$ ?吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
2 r) L7 C, K8 f信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............% t1 m/ k, J0 @2 A3 h' z
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!7 I: u$ t- _& d* U: u! z

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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:  r: j% P( Z! v. Z1 i
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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7 X5 x- B3 s% MYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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