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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:8 ~3 V- x9 }+ r1 y9 z
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
; A& O' d7 N8 W$ S: a( @又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢- O+ {' K# }; l. j7 F3 p
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
" s% ?/ W# N1 Z呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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6 m! x' k! B8 }& R& TNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge...." F* k/ Y, p7 R8 j; h

7 T# B- m4 L) S! g' D$ A  g* Bstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
/ f% X% q8 h1 F7 q1 Q4 gcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!1 v! f+ v: K6 [# R- Q& J6 D$ {
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人: ~3 f1 u! g+ J
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,( Y& u- g; {, p# E5 Q4 p  p8 j' X
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
9 C# F% {, a: b1 y/ b3 Y在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...4 z3 G8 `; w  q4 y* D
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:* J" T9 W( Y! m
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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" E5 F( G% n' {% P7 gJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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/ E+ V9 p; M' ]/ P% K4 z. Q5 x; jI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.4 A$ F6 h: R+ {: C3 }( v0 R

5 a0 L' B, U) ~/ q* [) ^  oLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo* r' u2 c5 ?  z. f' l* A4 [5 t

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+ ?' e% J; F  K1 E: f+ e$ f[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:% z: P. H$ g/ f$ g; _
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
* t1 Y6 Y& }. ], KYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
4 W* h& w6 o5 P1 @$ |# lbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......# U/ ~) W; H  @% h+ ?3 J
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it's starting because we have sins......
1 @- @! [$ o& ]$ D* p6 ~. osatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
: o' L6 B0 Y: Bour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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( L$ k- g9 i, f2 w$ W用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
; K+ k( C6 `% r& E# y; T這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全3 Z  A4 Q8 U5 \0 a
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,& L  b' r5 }, m0 M* X: _# {
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~! x% H6 R* ]/ [2 K% q

; K3 V5 T6 u& j* D/ {4 p4 F9 p* K* D導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,& L) |* x# q! d# z0 C& H, A* S0 I
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,, S; ]" j# c  }& `. Z
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法' A, S9 {, R/ Y" ?# H: |
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...9 ~  ?6 L8 S: l8 {) p5 X
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具  f1 \5 ]. D' I- S- T% z4 b3 o
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
1 o4 o5 H- C! B( \6 Z) P信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干5 Q# X; G5 W+ z
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以下是其他人的見解,4 w- {/ V6 a' d) R; o8 N0 W' b
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤1 V& ]! O1 p8 ~5 }
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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5 d8 X/ \- r2 s4 n- ?不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!8 v# J- ~5 \+ H) ?6 q
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:( z  V; L, I2 D, A
.............信耶穌... ...
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  G) r! T+ O- V% P3 P( U8 jActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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/ `6 H7 X3 q' G' bYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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