jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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* u+ f& L8 f( k  Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# b1 f' D: o4 _4 Kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! K+ z0 j# r8 S* ^1 o0 a" o8 M: W
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ ?' z7 L: ~5 B3 j: s& N; C
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & [: I* }# ~+ a! i0 P0 @
but why jesus need to do this?. |2 _9 d( p# I" t' G3 W- |+ ]" g
punsihment for what???
2 p5 B5 v( Y. D7 U' v4 efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ I. |- k' J. j$ b/ J2 _: m( D
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' _1 j* K( o2 Y( L7 O0 \* q$ J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:. d# u, m5 f! S) b- t
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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) Q' \' O  P, W9 i1 v但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( ^  U8 r) S; P  g7 V
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; g9 g4 _! @. Z7 ^, h$ w! e% A/ \
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% }5 r- P( n: }9 R+ G6 |! ~comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 b# T# g: }  X% K  T2 Q( ^% nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
% E' E" _# I$ O. Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ z0 ?. h1 B' Jbut why jesus need to do this?  u6 d  @  I; i( v
punsihment for what???8 o. K% \7 t# s+ U$ M4 t+ F% u0 P
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 E4 \8 H% K4 c1 U8 Wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ G. V! `5 w5 o" G" A& }4 h; T; ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 k; X6 h) T( e' R! P( t3 xwhat will u do???
* l: m  |( p3 D) q" o2 g6 Pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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! d4 Q; x+ q6 c8 t) _3 obro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days1 F3 i# ]) r8 m
honestly, if there is jesus
% }1 K1 N& t: ~9 nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ T6 W3 o' u: o4 C- ]
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# A* @3 ^1 x# ^3 ]

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1 B3 B6 R7 k/ j, J  e+ ?好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 k4 Q+ z. K- l6 @2 J2 l, g( E
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 Q6 A8 q, b( R2 Y- R
bro singgeihot and rest365days$ F2 p, ~! l  X; o
honestly, if there is jesus$ p* H) T0 @! J+ Z/ r. h) G* ~
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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6 E# n% r- c. F5 I9 E* Kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
, [3 L0 Y  R; f6 g% _自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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1 T, c3 `- S8 Uhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: