singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:% M9 N/ o. u8 k
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".; {  a5 X6 ?. F1 l8 b$ X" X0 d
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%4 g" \9 P0 A6 K2 O( ?$ H
會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:- `/ x/ ]: |( b! I4 V5 Q% t
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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um...
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* x6 e: A2 X0 m# q$ g/ ~4 G) k" ?haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
4 L% H; S$ ^5 a9 j2 yi'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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6 q0 h  S8 _$ @7 pgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:# d1 G" N6 ^) g/ [: m8 z
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
8 C8 v8 J/ Y8 O8 j, e) A以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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) C$ ~; O* G3 }) S哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力." x0 P7 L4 ?- s' z3 A4 G# Z" V
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:1 C4 a: j8 U( a

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um...
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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" W4 W6 i, n0 M& @/ \* J哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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) M7 R8 L' O, g9 T$ E7 E哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦$ y; W8 i1 b: D/ o

5 }9 D1 s& l2 V2 G1 e你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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[ Last edited by crap on 2005-4-27 at 02:39 AM ]

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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" W2 H; r8 A1 C; `! ?haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally). m& X/ [1 q! p! j
pls enjoy# m0 p- m$ ~9 m  A9 e; p# n( }" g
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO & z5 ?! ~7 W0 p4 v5 o# s8 b8 M
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la+ I4 Y1 W( k) O/ E& ^* I3 l+ K& Z& g
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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