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Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:  x: d1 E" M9 Z& W* |% P; S6 N0 ?

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This is a good po ...

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' d9 {  f3 @0 L- s, s多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".6 d3 q6 ~$ R- s4 Y% P) P- B' ~
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".) v6 X+ A  w; x: A2 ]1 C
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
3 M- d9 X. s9 J# i! M. F- n* Z會考就係最好的例子.$ N5 }$ Z, f7 h% T- H
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
: t8 @. `+ Z& H; }5 _: S3 dhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me& r; d, B4 ^+ a# Y* h  C3 c( k. R
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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' p  o* Y1 a. F3 [# c5 j+ }, `good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:6 l! K: M7 c+ R$ Y- v0 i! t

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# r2 p0 L4 H- i$ k5 N' P, z多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣9 D( n5 y' f+ _' p- N
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 % t7 G( \- G# c6 O$ H' k
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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8 O% c/ |5 s9 N4 ^$ e. O哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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7 P; v; l) o4 W0 m- T: W7 H+ {haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:: L' S  W. N: d+ r

, _% K8 J1 O# G, L' c哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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! c1 c; E3 ~8 Y哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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9 U* X; h* g9 P/ f+ Y' y  b& h哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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2 k& w. p" ~* X3 B$ D5 h8 {同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦; J$ y$ e6 Q; S0 c0 U& Q

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:) W& F: s' }: F6 Y
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0 j# J7 W1 N; P5 Y0 Khaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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2 m- v& S: e9 x0 f$ b  ahaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)% a5 i5 S0 _; s' j1 W. w' @5 x
pls enjoy
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la# s0 C( w$ w" V0 x& R" Z
besides, crap! interest to ask u% e$ e7 |" E: W  y' J* T/ o
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!