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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 J- E1 r7 p; n
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 _/ g7 P, `! }2 J& k1 E4 i
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  Q% v  g1 }. F3 |3 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! A: }1 p, ~  @6 Q+ [/ c5 v8 E1 u& P

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: C7 Z% p" n: S% SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 p- _2 l: b; e1 V% Z+ @! w9 K

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! @; y7 j- M0 R; `0 _* y4 e
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# s5 i2 i" ~* i

7 ~: E- u: z/ g! z$ X政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; }5 B5 q( G% A% \8 b
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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% M" g$ f" I/ F5 EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 G  W: m8 o6 X4 O- z9 ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: H# [8 B6 a2 [4 J7 W
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' R: `5 \& ]8 m( ]2 U3 b) J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) [6 @" X. g8 o% J- b

6 Y: ]9 b5 W1 l9 ?2 _! Kyes, that's the point.

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