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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  P$ r! p$ o. ^9 u7 _8 j- Q

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

  \; [' i8 `9 F9 hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 b8 ~- J, g: n6 N$ G7 \+ p& w0 l! C
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' N2 F, k  B9 mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ D: H, ~* }8 _

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 m% _6 m5 G, g$ L, Z
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! D! i( }; l9 e1 g2 U5 X, S1 r$ ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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) x/ r* B# ]7 y1 e+ R  A- \. I' o$ U其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; B5 D5 D0 Z; g9 q8 Asee #22 Thus
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0 j% \( v# H. ^+ d0 z: l, x! y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# r+ E9 U; _' l5 S/ N  z: E6 x6 p) o: j) z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 c% q  P7 O! I9 o4 x5 d

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他比孔明更偉大

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9 @6 M$ N6 U) yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! @5 K, h5 @: Q  VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ u1 J, z1 Z' V" Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( H7 X0 Q# }6 D$ b, }( s& l

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ O( f. h$ M# ^4 P3 p2 b

% P# R3 l0 Q5 T* w' Myes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......