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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 x5 c" Y% L; S8 b% h6 ?0 C

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ T6 Q# v8 E1 W
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 V% k' m; m$ |5 k% ?9 f# r6 PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# t( o2 ^* w- d5 B
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus: `0 N' `' Z/ g+ f& F; r
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; \( S" \1 ?. ^4 u5 {3 T' P/ S& p
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維( c' N5 C& P6 x* R  X' D, [

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* [' I: F4 ^3 v1 QIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 U6 L$ O8 P/ w* W6 EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 \/ T, T) I( |& T/ r! L

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6 V5 V0 n# e/ h( G8 X他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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