jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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9 P9 W- E' n6 r( Z# V4 k3 X5 Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ B8 g* a+ e0 G2 i$ j2 s, w0 Z0 l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! O* Z9 P) E9 h* M, Jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
- [/ H. P+ L& y0 a4 C" @" c! [many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 o/ M' p$ N$ sbut why jesus need to do this?
& b( G9 O, c6 t1 w# }  K! u. hpunsihment for what???5 i& [6 i( M* A2 d9 \, U: V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ l/ E5 J: g: {8 {- ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' n3 K3 S2 [1 Q- Z" j2 |; [! X4 v$ obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
9 v1 t+ \# T' |: awhat will u do???
* ]! k- y* n! X& }) s) i/ S, mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:) e6 v# b/ d4 L# t# y3 D- t( _3 N
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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9 ~' g: q& j! A3 b8 Q1 |* h7 }" P咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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/ m& x& l* z9 @) E* S& p+ D  S8 `但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排* \1 {& l7 h6 y& G7 V
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 ]8 y; ^2 C  z, B$ p3 y' m6 L
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' D- j8 a3 @; h4 ~/ ~& a/ H
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 v5 q1 ?. v1 T& j" S+ y
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ h- p) A, T2 ~% j
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 k* y0 t5 K8 ]$ }( }% g4 Z$ M
but why jesus need to do this?! }" F) R8 L1 j9 `5 j3 |; U' w
punsihment for what???
& ^: h4 h: j! G# Ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 m# @8 L& k' l% c5 s8 \5 Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 @4 w: h# Q' W) J$ N) v! Fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : P1 b; U: l; z) g4 f- A& I
what will u do???" I( G* p4 ]' n+ v" g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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) H6 Y$ s) @( q! j# ?& c; |( N9 rsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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' v, W# T- _8 Bbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 - |  y8 P$ @  ^* o* @# u

4 r* e3 R3 \' I* D% I6 n8 T1 n議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days5 f/ s- M5 H& c0 X- X
honestly, if there is jesus
3 |2 F5 W, s2 i/ l8 z0 uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. Q+ f& m+ e- P( e" Z, P
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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6 f2 A* N3 O! jyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
9 M9 ]# ?2 |( K6 e4 mjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ {. K! G! P' o  R  C. }+ o
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
* w. z6 G1 N6 i* z% Unow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( W& e% n) Y5 R
bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 ~9 X7 K+ B2 H1 {3 Ghonestly, if there is jesus& c% }/ J7 f, d+ p5 t( L# d: J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 J6 Y; A# h! l
we can't blow him :cool:

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8 t1 R2 ^8 L$ _1 ^: Lunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics, |' M' O4 V4 I" n0 t! K+ v
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
$ B$ w1 K9 T: L8 O( M* y! u. C自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: