jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
/ Y  e* r- e0 @, u" n2 d仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 }$ J4 Y2 H2 ^# q+ Icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 w" h+ I! X% L! o$ {
why this happen? just simple........punishment: Y1 W) n, G9 X3 A) k0 o" z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 r! b: D8 Q! C" J! O
but why jesus need to do this?
& G5 v( s% P7 q) N2 z$ Apunsihment for what???
% N4 A8 e& r1 p0 E8 rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 l$ z3 X# W( ~4 h
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 Z0 u: s' O! V( k7 t6 @* ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & X7 b! L8 L5 b) @  D) B
what will u do???* C/ b$ g6 Q1 m  P- c. E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; F, A, {/ D4 q2 T; s& t6 S' d  h
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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4 U) F: K, e4 x3 y5 U但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排1 v5 x$ u1 G/ d, y) R/ |  c# W" Z
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# Q( g, N% W& y1 r* H: h5 Rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( v" r. U! _" ?& Jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 l: L. G' Z0 R! K4 Gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment- ~* i- E& M& g
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 m. P& F9 x. [0 }# O" s
but why jesus need to do this?9 I  I# d; |  Q4 x) m
punsihment for what???' c9 @. t" f: U1 k) _4 P, C/ |- Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' m# k2 W2 s0 i$ V3 ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 T) }( p2 O8 `# h
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " ]9 F& g3 w! L- ^
what will u do???! g) S9 N+ a/ f7 s
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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8 g+ k8 Y1 a$ \& Ksorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀   A; ?$ ]7 ~+ A# V
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 q, K9 h9 Q7 Q9 I
honestly, if there is jesus- z, G  |9 i5 g" u. h
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 d5 g+ r% |3 w' q8 d7 P* P. z* Nwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 A. n6 ]. q. F8 F5 J  K- M
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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5 d, L: C9 D$ s6 wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
8 D% ?1 X) a* m. W: e# Z/ Abro singgeihot and rest365days
/ z) @, g: E; E% l2 ^6 [1 h9 [honestly, if there is jesus) x1 o  `  Y3 D
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ u4 h6 M+ }0 nwe can't blow him :cool:

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, L# z' u9 h0 e& ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics$ Q* t! ~% ]( W9 w& c
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
* J+ ?. G* O+ \( g自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: