jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
0 z& n5 o' q$ w+ E9 ~& d7 @* R仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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/ b6 w$ @# r2 X( I" q! wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 E$ H$ U2 T8 ?; d1 b; N7 V; N
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& U4 o2 J9 C" Q4 swhy this happen? just simple........punishment+ R, U& h! a- w3 M+ N9 a3 Z* c. `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ j9 j* K& i6 |" b  }9 Y. rbut why jesus need to do this?
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4 |* i! p* X4 W5 w. ~for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ i5 n/ Y  y% @4 A* t) @# Mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! ?5 b4 s0 ^9 k9 Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 J/ e0 [" Y; ?1 B/ K; R: v1 y( N
what will u do???, Y2 S% b( ?8 z0 g( @( a
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" G6 S7 P% V: @3 P6 c
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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/ W- c, s; q# C  P  S8 y: q) z咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉7 {$ m% n+ U5 V; q1 P2 z% W
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排: d/ V1 g, F/ u' m" v+ O1 h/ O

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ c5 q' y  ?9 N. Q1 ?: k3 C# j
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 {1 V" r. W2 t; `: V' {comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: T/ M- G: Y9 u# O& Y, K
why this happen? just simple........punishment
* F1 b6 \+ [2 `8 C3 t/ d+ r& tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & f' e1 p8 I9 z$ h
but why jesus need to do this?1 P# P: b) e/ E' ?  p; \
punsihment for what???6 H$ w, O* X% z1 t2 G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" \+ K% {- A/ Z* v/ W* xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 ^  g2 l0 P- I+ tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% M5 F! A5 p- w& s, Dwhat will u do???* y1 h, d. P2 u9 V9 G1 l
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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/ B0 x( l! e2 W1 z議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 J5 `; n* Q7 l' b0 P/ k
honestly, if there is jesus
5 p5 d/ l) h/ r8 z  h+ Ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. q9 F2 N: ^' j6 u! C
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:! z/ d) R5 E1 S" ^+ \1 B2 F

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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5 [, v$ @! K& f) h% c( B. l* C1 zyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life- W% u% f* v8 f( q
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
0 R+ y8 S/ _, |( A, nso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 f% T8 p  H9 @% b. Y
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ K: q0 d+ R& X# m3 |1 ^bro singgeihot and rest365days# ^$ Z+ g# g, Y% w4 x
honestly, if there is jesus& `; ^2 j) J6 U5 U% v, S5 g
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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* {4 T  i& Z% ~4 v" @haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: