jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:0 b& D5 p& }# C
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  e# _* j$ Z/ b- _5 s: F# M
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. ^$ b3 ~7 l  U' b3 s9 Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
* J1 I9 o5 S- u) K; @, X" x" Xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( b. V$ C& j* I8 {: E! R' b7 R; Hbut why jesus need to do this?/ u/ ~, a0 Q5 S/ O4 Q
punsihment for what???( v& X, J9 I/ u( w' Z! n( r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" s/ u! D2 A" R# j0 c$ h* Dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& S: I# B3 }# X) a& F* v* p6 a$ Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * x+ M8 c! ]; I( m
what will u do???, |+ \- r  v4 x. ]; [3 q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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& X9 t& U: U1 X2 d$ d# B) `但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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% W7 }7 ]$ D$ p4 ]7 z* ?$ L咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 S; B3 ^8 B( I- R+ J5 Y0 B2 q
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) @* N! k1 K  p* y5 l) q% m
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 u" F; Q7 U- Zwhy this happen? just simple........punishment' }+ |3 D% [- {& W3 w9 |. Q: U
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' x! [& m% _3 @9 ]/ r) f
but why jesus need to do this?, T' i  ~' J1 ]2 j, V
punsihment for what???
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8 M" ?8 O/ K8 W7 D. ]5 {try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% B3 g+ F1 Z* M) k% \0 Z& O, Z1 S4 T
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 [- w( c4 G2 w7 P4 `6 Ewhat will u do???# M+ r' {9 p; m$ l& Y' ?
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , _* C" `# v, V2 O3 v, f

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( C# s3 w! s. M2 rsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 ^8 n' f! h& l9 r; O- ~3 c
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
& P& K; y$ v  G) |honestly, if there is jesus" M' W4 ~/ w* Z- l$ L/ B% F& W% }# q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 h  [; a- I  Ywe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  \! c0 Z3 z- q
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/ g; ~1 l' s4 X) vyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life  A& \3 j0 d; k+ n5 a8 P! P3 r3 [
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics& {  L/ u- {2 s3 a. r# p* y; Q
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
' r! N% M/ _6 o自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: