jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) S* l8 d) Y) y/ b( h
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  X) y& W$ d, [2 B3 _4 k9 Q
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' `8 e3 `1 m& Tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( h1 _7 m! I% s: u, ^3 J5 D4 scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# v: h. a& c2 U, ~6 {
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 a. a  `) i' q8 [- s. J; x+ i
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 w) ^; S# r2 m
but why jesus need to do this?
4 e0 G# w/ D$ tpunsihment for what???* J) k, Q- W+ K2 |0 X/ B; s" X0 y' k
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 ^" q; ]+ Z: v# F: Mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 T8 Y" m# ^6 R3 _7 ]but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
; L9 l& f2 s; p; ?7 W1 d, D* [what will u do???
! f  S8 S% z! H) ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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3 U$ ?2 `0 U0 ]' x$ H6 \咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉8 p& U! S& w, P
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 H7 g, I% a0 c
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" F3 t- o+ |$ k$ F
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! w& H+ J4 t9 D2 x: ?comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& {3 l8 k3 N3 q' P
why this happen? just simple........punishment: D6 H+ y' I/ V4 e/ x3 S4 N1 A  h/ B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( B( t0 \: ?5 u- }  U* t# \but why jesus need to do this?  S( J, {! D* V2 [( B4 e! p8 g
punsihment for what???
7 l, f2 F0 T$ h6 m4 C- q& kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 {# U  h  p" Y: Vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 x1 S1 ]" N% kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
) [0 l8 b  _0 {5 fwhat will u do???
  D% P+ r+ q7 p  D: Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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2 ^3 z9 C- R* _. T- w" z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days) b( w! H; x! J  T: c1 j
honestly, if there is jesus
$ D' ]4 F- B0 `he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" A' L7 q8 `9 C: c* Jwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life3 c% a1 P/ `+ V1 z: B* ?/ Y
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 z: j8 ]8 V, I" R1 ?; C& I
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
/ `& t( i+ W0 X( D4 C: `now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 T# h$ r) E8 R* z0 D3 H
bro singgeihot and rest365days6 a0 U" y7 M! U" ]4 I# b! P2 h
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
9 v! p2 Z2 f0 ?; Q- ^( A/ K* k自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: