jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* j" g. {& t- ~% b: ?( i8 E+ j
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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' \0 G4 J3 l- g8 l4 [+ G, xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 E' D( _0 E3 f0 l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 ]6 v4 f2 C+ K6 b
why this happen? just simple........punishment
5 M* B" u3 _8 I7 L- p( `8 Kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. Y& B8 Y) o/ x3 g( Gbut why jesus need to do this?
: W  u( F. H3 [- i; \" bpunsihment for what???: D# g; K) Z1 F+ V5 b6 ]3 n
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* M7 H) ?* r4 btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ w5 x1 r# m( p# G; Q& t+ N3 ^. Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 u, v( Y) P, v6 y7 C
what will u do???4 H1 C% F, M8 m. q  p/ U$ s. Z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; O6 e2 M0 B0 I$ N; v

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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* K! e" v+ ?" p  L7 D咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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7 R# E8 l3 M% R1 g# u! Z; f% y) B但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排; T  H9 h" z* M+ y$ g2 H

4 Q. G) E  Q7 P. r6 F; a" |咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 U1 l9 j1 S- M9 X& r7 Cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' D* \; u. Z! p6 o' j( C" P
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 @' Z* @5 w$ A5 R
why this happen? just simple........punishment
1 @) V, V0 X, I' u8 Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. @( j+ o/ j7 w; K1 j# x4 Z5 Rbut why jesus need to do this?
! l& e7 L( g" opunsihment for what???
' t+ R. y$ o  Afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* U, }. ~& T5 K0 n* K5 o
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 |5 w7 ?0 M3 z/ n5 E$ `5 A% }but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! h" \4 o8 d6 [what will u do???
0 ]+ o9 v4 E3 Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 O* H: _" x( \, |% `1 W9 m) [

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7 _6 c, B5 L4 W- g. [sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 r+ n% }1 c/ i6 x1 Z$ v1 Q
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, g) q& ^: i; h. }  }好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 & X) h. c9 R, O3 X

; R5 j. ^" b2 @- _( H8 }議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 k0 a/ e/ b: }) q4 Hhonestly, if there is jesus
/ Y( }* k* d& the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( ^- i  I1 C+ A" t$ {
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
9 B, `, i3 [( s1 E2 @just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 l7 ~+ K6 V/ i
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
7 D# c; }. |+ ?0 F3 C' x# rnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 u( ^) K  Z+ s6 v
bro singgeihot and rest365days6 k- E5 s7 z; ~1 [  o# ]. D* V
honestly, if there is jesus
8 f6 a; _: v4 c. s5 Hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  m  c1 y! X1 w, ]2 @, Y
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# }( ~% I1 L; Q自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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1 X; w" O, U& l8 @haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: