jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
$ L2 e# o+ D! T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# X: N- M8 s8 h' k2 {- ~( B
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) J2 a1 I0 M% Y  _2 c4 C; D; s
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# Q4 T) i8 Z3 q8 Wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 @; g* |# ~/ i0 F0 cbut why jesus need to do this?! ]1 a0 d$ p+ M3 a. Z. a# l! B
punsihment for what???
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5 M$ Q  }8 g' p* x) _try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* c- @7 N+ w% Z, X9 _" L
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 K3 w# v5 b5 u' h7 x. J" f
what will u do???0 A& u2 z: u( e0 R: Q3 M
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; ?$ H+ H6 f1 j+ {

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, N( H- {5 p9 \( Gyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ y/ G# Y5 o7 h- e, I

! H) E& S' L. N# Y: P) L但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% V: y9 v/ s$ e8 r

2 B7 t0 P' {9 }, f' r0 v咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
! e" P2 b/ n% [) p( {; V3 Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ A9 m$ x% P! ?9 h  Wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 V5 r* X- u7 \7 f4 ~2 bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment# F/ T0 T  ~- P- S+ s
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! e9 F7 t1 \3 O' Ibut why jesus need to do this?
( B9 B! y6 \( b! ]9 f2 |9 Vpunsihment for what???' m8 U  O* M- a- k
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# _; u- G5 D1 Dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, Z5 S& r5 k5 Z7 X; z, I& s8 M  cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' s( m% D# R9 L2 y8 _) F
what will u do???
3 H" y* l7 c! Djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 K& M/ E/ R* K/ l0 I

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: b& q; x0 L$ Z' d: l9 lsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ i" N5 }9 J( m# k: y
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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' h; _, Y' T6 y5 J  ~好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 2 [, n; x) h' }$ V7 a0 O

8 ]" ~  ^+ ]! k) R8 K! I  }議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 Z$ E* d4 l) X6 Phonestly, if there is jesus
* A. L: N/ v5 ?( x7 Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 k8 \) b1 l# D" H
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ _! M; R2 H# `6 v9 Z
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  w$ u" e3 X" j" k0 ~& q" b$ X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 @$ e- d) b: i  |1 f2 G
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( i) }- Q5 {  `/ Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
; M6 c$ \# l% Cnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
% w# h6 X3 j( |' @0 M/ k. |bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 |+ y" S0 [& D& B" @' {6 Ihonestly, if there is jesus/ w, _  G8 W! N" B6 C+ v$ B) M: g
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- w/ A& w; T- c$ Twe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ H# |  l- o( z0 s" _
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: