jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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! U! }4 m  f  g+ D( Tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" M7 G: F$ b9 U# T+ |0 Vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, c4 ]* c$ w* C8 Q. q2 k' O
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& e7 j2 M8 U$ a5 f9 hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& B- ~3 ]. D5 m7 c6 `% f& d  S0 {but why jesus need to do this?& l* X' h2 t' C6 |& c7 f/ `
punsihment for what???- C2 {8 V6 K6 w8 E/ t
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 @- @- C8 B  {# o# d6 u2 j8 A( Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% U; A" l( D* lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉" d! t! }7 B# @% m" U  u

1 m0 B% ]: t5 a- T; z0 P: ?但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* x$ R, h7 U0 O! _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 J. E3 E; h. T: i1 @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ ?. ?9 F) W, u' H/ q! E8 p1 Dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment5 D7 D* D' x6 U, B0 Z- K7 G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, s! `; A$ X% Z* |; f0 M4 z1 Ebut why jesus need to do this?
. b" o; a  ~9 a' E" Cpunsihment for what???
8 R! _0 S1 M, u' rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 o7 d# M# ^" F; K' d' V' g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# X1 L; O2 i6 E9 r
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' S/ j% f' ?6 Q1 f, r% L8 V, ^what will u do???
) D* r( f, g* u( D0 kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : }6 ]1 a# O8 J" u
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 |/ H( x" u* e8 y  vhonestly, if there is jesus
1 ?9 m3 \8 J* Z- b& q  khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" r: K( X: n5 O7 O1 uwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
* r9 H* O2 C! cjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' ^+ \/ `+ l! S* ?, p1 `& e3 a! J# ]% O$ ~
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
" }# b0 C8 |  Q: W- Y7 |now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! I6 o3 H# s; \2 n. Zbro singgeihot and rest365days' v$ f  [( ^! W- f
honestly, if there is jesus
% f7 S) z, O4 \8 v0 ~9 P7 Lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# V: Y; D5 b: _# W, F3 [7 m; Awe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; f5 p% X( i% ~
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! K+ |* v; T$ e7 q# T
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: