jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
8 i5 J3 I! t! ]仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ p9 g, ?) t1 A1 e9 S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ @- Y" t0 Q0 j- ~9 Y. A/ n+ ]3 k
why this happen? just simple........punishment! E! c4 Y$ Q9 A& c- ~) e
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " \0 J* h6 v2 e& U; M: Q( @
but why jesus need to do this?- `' G& `' m" y3 O4 O6 F
punsihment for what???$ \) C* w0 X1 [/ B/ V" P( E4 o* T
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 f  y) o1 \5 _1 N$ Y( e2 h; N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???
8 W1 k0 s4 E9 R! i4 M$ ojust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 E* B. T9 i# |# U8 o/ r. v! j

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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- a  k$ ?5 b% p/ x. {咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排2 {; C9 J1 W: A' J3 F& v
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
7 o$ n! K/ @: E. K$ \, `bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 h# _8 m+ \) g; \/ E: m+ k# X
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 m0 m7 j" Y+ b, t, G) cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
: g' q6 f" \6 p2 r# Hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) K( Z2 N5 @! E% t8 p! m) zbut why jesus need to do this?6 n. N$ v' Z. b' J4 y
punsihment for what???
* ^2 }! l; J, e% k3 E6 w9 efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. F6 H+ O% i. T' v6 Qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: V8 p8 H5 ?. ^5 [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 [+ O. b& L# \" ]) {& y! W
what will u do???
% W  B6 a. ?$ G3 x! e' tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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7 f4 k% G' o( r$ D6 ^sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 8 ~# n! Q  u- B
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days$ `4 ]! ^( ]9 g6 z9 Q
honestly, if there is jesus
8 d  Z' {7 q9 U7 d8 k4 S2 lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 ]5 r, g6 g7 ~0 g6 [  n7 ?
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life/ z0 P: c5 K; R; g' G% I- t
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; z' S7 R5 c7 B! |8 I0 d
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......! K) e8 U) I% K: T5 ]5 E
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
) \/ a! h* ^$ `bro singgeihot and rest365days% D# F$ z0 F3 u3 o7 g3 n
honestly, if there is jesus, h, m% ?) `7 ^+ K
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ {) @2 e9 n1 H/ C. w
we can't blow him :cool:

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( L& V& b8 G; {) b# g8 P* e9 ^understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics/ ^7 b- U. A" c7 _- |! z: s! r
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( J5 _$ _3 n; C* A' U
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: