jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- U. Q0 {0 W7 N) {: D
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- O0 B* \& S6 p2 f
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ ~4 y- m; T' m4 ~0 Q& ^) w+ }3 l2 t
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( T5 m& y+ e# Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& k/ T9 t* ^* zbut why jesus need to do this?  A* t# o. q2 V3 Q) `
punsihment for what???% X2 l& B7 l2 P. b; J/ t4 V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% V7 u: p/ m# t, atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  L% k8 `/ H# X) d  f) G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , q; b, M2 ]0 r+ [, ~
what will u do???
7 s/ S) z- c! F* C6 J! ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
, M4 e3 Y" P; ^0 fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 w7 z. I2 N: i% K
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 g4 ]7 ]0 F; p: f2 B/ G6 K
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 ^; t; {; D$ j2 R; K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 \0 |& y# O) P1 X) h; Sbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 B, ^8 l/ B1 O( }% Jtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ {  P+ ?5 I; B" @8 Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   x! k& K( @4 s7 I: O
what will u do???: R4 H' k! s) F7 {8 J5 s  J+ \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 v  C  s+ K: {; u& d! `

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$ d- y& B$ n* c1 Q9 rsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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) p: p7 W$ D- C. b. vbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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) m% {- k  [2 A% A  f% s- J4 }議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, P; B  U" |, E2 m0 H0 e5 _honestly, if there is jesus
  r+ b( C, O0 T) uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. G5 o0 r7 K9 i( B! h$ ]  o7 w7 ^we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. @7 j( c0 S* i" W3 ^+ z2 ~

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
0 d- ?' ]. N  h1 C& w# ljust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- k" i' u# \6 |8 J; K( b' X8 F
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
  k1 R) `# q5 ?) \now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 ?  m& n' y% `- u$ Z& ~bro singgeihot and rest365days* G4 }, z- T! S6 s" P( m
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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7 X" R8 X7 J5 L. Gunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics4 ]1 n. M7 ~+ Y. K4 f
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: