singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:8 _5 n1 B% r. F( m" E( y. C0 b

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1 g; U# n5 v0 o; T7 lThis is a good po ...

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% {# @4 j" H9 d* {多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".1 t2 |7 B( D6 a8 n; D- |

7 A2 {! n: P8 R6 n例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%/ }, ?/ a- s% T
會考就係最好的例子.+ @2 Q7 T. _+ [! A# i. X& D
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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5 h2 s, Y* `4 d' ~yes, i get yr poi ...

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um...
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# }- N7 }+ |! a7 ]. I* Khaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
5 L5 e' y6 i  @4 m8 h3 t( ri'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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$ w. y+ j6 c, t$ g7 bgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 # ~1 V  F" D: |. V0 W  P
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀0 e9 u0 C* I& e2 Z6 f

" _; I& n! P7 C* q0 k哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:$ D' _& F; s$ z8 }  m$ ]1 r

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; Z1 w& v$ o% L2 k# chahhaa, 不用客氣
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我 ...

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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; H8 t# z% B4 |- ]* |haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:& J. {, n% ]* l7 I" `9 ]5 \
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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( f) K" ~( W) j* h6 U/ x哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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9 ~( q& h7 [* u1 q同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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* R. }: c2 H+ l$ `5 D你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持6 ~2 P7 |7 g. F# {7 T
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:/ q' t) d6 H. v! w# X

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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/ I, g9 U+ {4 U9 G; shaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO # a* j2 h" P# K7 }' n
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
! ~* D. k  q  N; h+ p& o0 nbesides, crap! interest to ask u6 k8 E3 \! t1 a+ O" g* q  D" ^* x* j
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!