singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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# t+ ~' K* a+ R1 HThis is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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% [( ?1 p- F9 l& p- ]! A% d相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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* m& U# c& m! r0 _3 V! P例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:8 C+ e6 B( {- F5 b
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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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# X5 r" r+ h) Qgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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9 f/ Y; v' i9 S) _1 H# L4 C我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
5 s5 J. R% B& [$ F( K以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:2 {6 p5 p# X2 s$ E6 K
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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我 ...

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) F& W, i$ Q$ d! L/ d哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:2 F; K/ B( s: U

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:: ~7 B# E( ^- T+ I7 c: L
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢3 O/ N- l1 x2 U# L, V: ]: H* f
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦% o/ `; H& u. \7 x/ R% v7 u0 y

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)  g5 N* |0 j9 `. Y8 \
pls enjoy
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la0 o9 W0 {8 ]) C
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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