singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:9 ]+ d" b3 B: l

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This is a good po ...

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( S- i0 `; r7 C# \多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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5 P3 c% B4 d" u1 J7 x例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%0 ~  M5 `/ ]+ N2 `. `( ?
會考就係最好的例子.& c' i$ u7 b$ |1 f" _! T
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:, z2 G: k9 ^4 M2 a/ ^

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um...
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. K! M) d; p/ x3 r7 ]1 s' v4 xhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me  [2 ^% W# L* X/ ^4 k; X
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:# H6 b4 j8 F1 T( l. q+ [

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% ]$ f% F2 u% r. X3 ?多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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) m7 s+ K; F! r) N2 [. w我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 + p3 `* |$ N; {& n
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀! G0 J) D* S; v9 D5 s  I

3 P+ [- |1 S8 g) M9 q/ d/ K哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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我 ...

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.; c$ ^% @0 E4 A+ J3 d, s9 [  m
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:0 s- ?3 l# ^1 P. P: L$ k+ ?7 y0 j( I
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psycho is h ...

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% P4 b2 Q* O1 g0 T" nhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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7 d4 |& w* Y7 M" I) M哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.0 \! J. l0 t1 b/ X. g
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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. k2 {6 v# x* b' n3 a$ _哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢# Q9 \8 k" `! W2 @& p
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持6 j3 m" H1 @( P% d% L# `; r

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)# |& z& e" l5 Y
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# _. @$ o; O, f8 L1 K0 b; ?( l9 s" G$ Bagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
" o% L* s; Y1 I3 E& Xbesides, crap! interest to ask u4 [/ s( z/ D- F- r
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!