Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
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呢D就係做人的悲哀

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+ F' u5 j" ?" \) Y( LNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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% ~) B. }" X9 g8 ustruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....% ^8 B1 @: p5 C
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!; A7 O  S' P; P. M" D5 Y2 F( K
我只不過微小的基督徒...................: u2 A9 B/ r- l% ~( }3 @  c
真的!!這不是反話+ o) [8 T6 `2 j
因為我是情感比理性強的人3 m: Y: l6 b6 |: {9 x1 s0 r
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,' R1 C4 N, h  i- K  r0 R0 g6 o9 Y
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,; h: X  `5 m2 j) ^; N, o# _
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...+ f. i6 A! U' {0 G3 u
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:! I0 E& d, ^, o+ T' F2 w# z6 X
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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5 j# `9 D, F3 C) L+ TWhat a statement we have here?7 C8 _7 z' D9 C4 J

; E- |# B. m. _: ]- AJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo5 w8 i; w. P& I. u3 {5 K$ |) \

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:1 o9 Y  p  A- d6 k! u4 ?
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"; I# G& t- `: b/ V! \
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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+ e$ \5 h$ K# o/ s$ B% g) J. Iit's starting because we have sins......
5 `* L# a' f, [0 Qsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ) @2 }3 p' s3 V: |" F
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求". p9 _0 x! f8 }2 a" g
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
& U# f& I: w1 z& ~6 u用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
, m. {5 G% h! Q1 [這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
: ^& B6 g$ ]8 v0 {9 D# E如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
# x4 A  P- Y& u2 E而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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! u  X# q7 _; F5 i, Z導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 b/ z. D9 V, T9 L
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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# x0 c+ ?. ?# J3 t/ j. Y. r6 j吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,+ B6 O1 r$ C3 o1 N9 @
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干3 O: b2 f9 e3 m# m! M

$ A: P. ?  N: h6 K2 y4 s: J以下是其他人的見解,& l# F3 M% O/ F$ |" V* P! l) F; ?
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤6 e( s7 r8 @2 i. O3 {5 U9 V' W
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............0 b* O2 B' [. Y! v! B( i
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!* D4 o2 m7 F3 o
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!- Y. D" c3 O9 q
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!5 V* S+ y4 t9 k) `

0 d1 c' O* O9 E, O) S同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
, o! l$ D3 j. c  z9 C.............信耶穌... ...

  F) e( Y+ Z* Z3 b3 ^( r9 x4 URegarding the resurrection....# L; c% o* i# o! v' E
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....+ Y$ u  i& L% i

& h9 j7 a& f. H6 p! BYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.