Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
- J: W/ E$ m: I8 c' I我係一個連自己都吳信的人
1 ^" b: z- l( I5 f4 i8 v又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
& L) ^9 H: ]: Q( Z- N8 w道理我知道好多只係做吳到" L; e* l% j' c/ b$ k
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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- R8 G9 |8 x. D# QNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies...." Y2 N2 j) M1 X+ R4 t% N
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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/ \: f% j. S2 }+ \+ B% Ystruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
1 _% c. r( Z/ scheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
' p6 X' `$ h! M7 V. E, s4 J我只不過微小的基督徒...................
1 S  n8 H; w) |# h真的!!這不是反話
# @+ S7 C9 {. I% i( E9 a: q( Q因為我是情感比理性強的人
2 D$ {/ Z" p# D4 u所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
5 w5 K* Z' r, k以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
: Y$ p) v; c5 s/ W& j在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
7 \. Q) u. g* J. z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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7 G, S, x# T; k* \4 fWhat a statement we have here?
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9 _" b2 ]8 @/ _+ }. @# ~2 k6 rJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 6 U9 y$ M0 L- ]

7 v) f" P* M1 t2 XI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.; u# t( ^. _5 V. X8 S5 X1 O
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo+ M" k3 M( L* x+ H; F4 ^
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
! L5 r* W& Q+ D9 @# a3 p建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
3 I1 o4 _5 Q2 K$ v  R6 L5 JYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
4 q$ l8 c) |; r& X2 t! }* w- y+ Dbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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( M, D4 U0 C# n# R; `" Fit's starting because we have sins......% s0 T/ t1 g" k+ ~  i' w
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us # A- d% f0 ]  z  l# P# d! f; y
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
, Q. a1 w: }! |3 [6 A: I如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
. x! W' w& e3 S而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看," r$ C* [! L2 L2 Y0 q
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,* ~# {7 \9 l+ D: _$ {

0 s  @3 b5 D: l* J5 a一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...: y+ N* R1 V* P" Y, e8 g! `
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
3 ?5 j6 q/ x  K+ z$ D信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
0 ?5 C& S8 g+ ~* T* l看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤/ E. }5 B5 ^& K% v' T. d8 y
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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% N! \6 }4 f' C; v6 X信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!( G0 Y! v# N2 n; [
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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0 ^! {8 B! N' J! n. Y' n# n同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
* V% p3 A! i" p6 @8 N% H% N6 F.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.