Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
& V' d6 Q0 P1 g我係一個連自己都吳信的人
4 E* |. E% p* }. i又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
# ^) B, ~( ^  c) l道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!/ b6 D$ c) D, {6 u7 Z  l$ \
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....( X% c( x) p& o4 @* X" B
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....' _) |2 }" s9 `( x5 L9 a( V5 {
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
. H# \" v# G1 F% o  j$ S我只不過微小的基督徒.................... K4 @9 }  l, ]3 J% E
真的!!這不是反話  N( P( a5 G  P/ L2 L# C3 {
因為我是情感比理性強的人7 G& G) U. r2 d8 e& q6 w8 q! D+ K
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
' z& g* O. ?) P以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,! f2 r( F$ h+ n  \- D
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...* g: j9 l# |  m9 f
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?7 v. u1 o4 v, o. A5 Y

; ^: P  R$ B( B" {' v; |2 ]Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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& w$ @& T4 y" u& B' g! ?6 zI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread." }& }4 v8 b5 B
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:3 X0 S* }; }. K( ~( i% t  [) N' Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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! \3 j+ t3 Y) n4 Y/ ]/ b- B1 C"不信也沒損失"
# j9 c4 z) Z$ eYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
- B/ I5 f1 y+ X( }' [' Vbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
- _6 C1 ?: j7 _7 @satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
% \- {! w; \1 n- p% Q6 g2 `% vour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,6 @' E2 \$ o4 n
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
' _: O) M1 b" e  a如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
3 ?0 |! V  z$ Y; b! H而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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( G* ]  W! B) X導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 i5 F$ e6 C! C2 @& N
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,$ z- `$ I! N" m' X

9 A, ~% U/ ~( Y# s6 U8 ~$ G一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
* D4 H% B6 S; Q" Q+ k. Y# u; V2 V改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法. m9 v3 P- L  B
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
7 m, p- O8 q0 F# L" T0 S+ ]信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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. i! S1 g8 V! ^以下是其他人的見解,
5 ~0 D( x! I  J看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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5 n+ S9 P+ d0 D2 Z8 v0 m6 o不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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  d/ u5 ]6 [+ q$ g4 o- x我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!8 H- c; h( d+ `5 h3 v
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
6 N2 x9 D  H! O- `1 K- s3 H.............信耶穌... ...

$ v) K  A# s7 q& k! dRegarding the resurrection....
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; ?! o6 _  Q, k1 }6 A0 s' J  iActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.