Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
2 t" R' \0 O9 J- t, J道理我知道好多只係做吳到7 \$ M- u; B2 x+ O  ?
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!* g6 p3 {7 Z$ F7 c% F# Z
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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5 x' y8 a  x4 istruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....+ H' v$ A; Y7 y0 v' H2 J: S
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
- z* p' K. R& X, I- H我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
: l# |; b1 \  h+ w  e以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,: h+ G3 `, X  @4 q
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
2 }& R: \- n0 b( z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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* H! E( t  Z; iJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ! A& _$ I4 x- ]' ?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
( n8 v. [1 v+ P4 ~6 q9 k建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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- Q8 v4 s8 H( k) H2 j6 J% m"不信也沒損失"7 }0 {4 V8 B. I/ ?. [/ G* W7 [
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
; [! @4 e! @0 m7 x* [but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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  |. `. l+ f1 Oit's starting because we have sins......# M6 e" j' l" J5 i: c1 c; z
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
2 q( c' b, \+ g' Nour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
( P4 O0 b1 q3 q! D" n這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
0 {5 ?4 l8 i8 F6 G) {如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,0 S+ T2 L( q9 X/ a
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~5 w1 B# C: h/ j6 m4 Z8 C

8 {+ S3 ~( I3 \) k) G, B導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
2 ^5 z! o' V" \' w好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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4 m0 h: _" E- k- Z4 W( W2 o2 a" F; X. T一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
. P6 R1 [/ L# `  s* u. j改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
6 y4 j1 j2 I! A! |# q4 [: I# i: P美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,' B4 ?, |& N( _! n" q
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干6 M  S" z6 [+ q- k: k  P( F2 Y
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以下是其他人的見解," {9 f# @- J% f% [
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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4 f/ o) y# M: ]& k6 e1 p不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!( U# D! v; u$ Z2 Z+ G" K  x  q. e0 r7 m

  C3 t4 N2 y) y! d我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!1 P2 p: b: C9 [+ b/ t: g: A$ V' a
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
! G0 |8 W, l% X( M.............信耶穌... ...

# Q. v2 E6 b) D, J0 R# \Regarding the resurrection..... y8 E- h" h% x% {" C: W8 s* v
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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! c" |3 S0 {8 P6 W1 ~  GYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.