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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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3 c1 T; z9 Y  \1 e智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ ]$ T% {' B7 I9 P  Q2 ?
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 [8 S( o* h* C+ {/ @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ I, J  X' y4 q% o: I" z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- i; n& A! P, B5 [

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9 n! ^& j7 H5 x- D4 l2 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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4 e; [! o! \- @; \$ ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* K& q, H  p* m0 ~( s8 G8 `4 w
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. g' h3 o6 |; G# j% M7 ^) D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 i: j) `- R% \1 }! jsee #22 Thus+ b: k4 D0 o4 W6 k

" l( J) t/ i, ]) e: t( s- W智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, |7 p5 q( d, c) q$ I8 E" b

4 m2 M: F' e. k# c: R0 S: t2 ~1 c5 g$ D軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 `8 r# ~1 A8 p5 Y8 W6 K7 m
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details., Q" ~8 G: E1 f; u1 K* b" }
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) T" x3 |( ]! ]' dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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7 K2 W6 A% o4 u+ C# x* LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( R# f% h# i0 I# ]! D. ~

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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) K" _! |5 M2 A8 @3 ~& x0 Q. Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, n, y5 a$ c8 Q: r3 U
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" v& T1 b- z5 _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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/ e. X, [2 R. w$ q2 L. Myes, that's the point.

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