bwk0317

Originally posted by My heart will g at 2005-10-17 08:07 AM:
4 f+ j; |+ A2 Y4 w7 zu guys really funny....if there is ...

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You are funny too!2 Q3 r3 f% y+ w% r) M! X: i6 D! \& X
im name is 'Chan Wing Yan', you can call me 'Ah Yan',for non-Chinese speaking people, they can call me 'Yan', nothing wrong with that.$ F/ A4 C* [. Z* e

% U  g0 y  L# P! Q. S2 {+ wJapanese people for instance, 小森美樹, people call her  美樹...美樹.... feel so good, they dont use English name such as John, Peter etc because they're proud with their national identity.
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# d6 U& V) R0 CHK Chinese with English name are strange inside many foreigners eyes who never been to HK, mostly base on the British colonial background, that local Chinese have to please British by not accepting their Chinese identity...and British promote English is the most important language in HK to persuade Chinese residents... anyway its a historical topic.

草上飛

喂大佬啊 鍾意用o米用 唔鍾意o米唔好用. a) m" {8 m( e" D) e& b7 h0 ^: y
你叫人拒咩用英文名o者 ; L% G& {; m8 w8 E) V2 F
仲有 以用英文名為榮係果d 唔用個腦去諗野既 臺灣人，大陸人
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我問你普遍鬼佬識唔識 中文? , \9 ^& r7 D# {/ J7 X( v) X6 A
咁點解我地就要用英文同佢溝通 & E, |* @" ?! `6 n5 i
當你需要就去用7 [  K7 M: A% ?
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that"s why we use english( T' |' {. i2 A
and we type english

My heart will g

Originally posted by bwk0317 at 2005-10-17 03:14 PM:
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You are funny too!
* c( K; b0 z6 [4 gim name is ...

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You have misunderstood what i just said~# E, u: O* _8 \- w- S, `
i meant like u just met someone and you just introduced urself, Hi my name is Chan Wing yan~
- n7 I& b# h& S) Ithen usually, as the hk culture I know, that person will call ur chan wing yan for at least few days to becoming freindly enough to call ar yan~
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# K# q& F6 j* c! n: _- \But if you introduce in english, HI my name is Chan wing yan, english name call erik,then that person can call u erik instead of Erik Chan or Chan wing yan~

adamas

仁兄講到拒用又係革命性左D
$ D1 s0 G. R9 r/ f$ J; B之但係咁多港人都改個英文名又的確係好古怪
, }' v) `1 R( l1 F/ a# _: \香港人自己用開唔覺
' Q  W, h8 r5 a( {+ f8 c但外國人眼中覺得好奇怪% Q. Y* w, u( u2 c2 t2 q+ h, g
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同外國人講英文係必須2 U# X& X: B+ v4 X7 ]# ]
英文係國際語言
1 f1 a0 C8 v9 g. o$ s" D+ }既然香港教育有英文教外國無中文教
% h  q, Q0 d& s: e. m- ^! ^咁我地講英文就佢地好合情理) r9 n8 w4 y* k& ^8 J0 f2 W
但有無必要係佢地面前改埋自己個名做一個外國人既名字呢8 V5 U% u' J2 u+ p9 n/ m6 H) N, s2 F
呢個就從語言問題去到一個身份問題, \9 {( p* q( b0 u, a( W3 l
唔係話我將民族尊嚴放到一個稱呼上係過份嚴重, b: o; j" G8 k& O4 l( b1 G8 b
事實上一個民族既人大部份走去改多個外邦既名: T7 y2 A, X& h- }: Z( @
你試下站係外國人既立場就會覺得我地都唔知搞乜7 _: }1 V* p- A% J! ~
佢地唔出聲問係出於禮貌或慣左
) n# ~7 p2 Q5 s- U% ^' U一D直腸直肚既外國朋友佢絕對會問我做乜會騎騎里里有個外國名字
2 m- ?0 F& l: ~3 @- `- ]8 Q" P, s好話唔好聽連自己個名都西化0 G& E: {" z! S! u% E1 x
人地點會重視尊重你呢個民族(可能聽落太誇張, 但不無道理)6 {& M6 T2 o2 e

0 i- x5 l5 F% y$ S& k6 z/ r  W再重覆如果改個英文名係為左方便同外國人溝通(雖然我唔覺得有幾方便)
8 ]$ ?7 c8 v8 ^, e咁成堆大半世都唔會接觸半個外國人既中國人為乜又以英文名相稱
9 w, d  g5 E' X8 `呢點真係問題癥結

丹山

Originally posted by adamas at 2005-10-18 09:12 AM:
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之但係咁...

$ l7 D$ A7 Q' y0 k1 a2 \& u% }# P那 我只能說這是香港的傳統文化
0 Y2 d( K  g, j& V$ j! h/ }不是回歸後十年八年就能改變的9 k! o* u" a- W! ^5 s' A
就像時下年青年沒多少個會說自己是中國人(包括我)
3 ^- s5 t, F1 G/ h6 t他們都喜歡說自己是香港人
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尊嚴同尊重係自己比自己 唔會因為改左個名就失去- M7 m& R; p+ J- J# |
如此想法 我覺得太膚淺
. L2 b1 q( M4 Q1 H2 ]6 X. X仲有 我阿媽係我張身份證上面都加左個 英文名0 N. X8 v! i4 u" W; u, _
相傳係為左方便移民外國之類
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如果想得到別人尊重 我相信中國人還需要經過很多年的教育! P* ]5 y6 B6 ?# `9 c+ ?6 |
這是與國家的民智有很大關係 人民不會去想太多別的
, F3 {6 P' i' C% y& Y- G+ X大眾所作的就盲目跟隨 這是中國人的習性!
# v: y  m" ~# Z7 X/ {/ |9 E尊重問題實質上名字我覺得是有關 但和中國人的習性比起
# L- h0 \( {- [$ y/ B. p4 ^& T1 d" ~我覺得不值一題 要改變的 也不會先由名字改起"

Elsie

I like English names....
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Why can't we have English names?
  ^# k  ~1 I7 H, }) v: YI thought its only another way to call yourself~~~~

bwk0317

Originally posted by adamas at 2005-10-18 09:12 AM:
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之但係咁...

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Totally agree, 身份問題 ma! Good to see many feedbacks here...4 B; R( c1 L# Q* Z
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Elisa, yes you can have your English name, up to you!:cool:
! q1 V+ D" B. a' W+ ?I didnt say we can't use English name, its just a joke in foreigner's eyes je ma.
8 p" l# R: W5 ^& ]% rElisa, are you male or female? Are you Chinese or English?

adamas

丹兄提到既尊重問題我很同意4 H# R. @5 i! G6 D8 \* D
中國人仲有好長既路要走$ M5 {& I( y4 n
外國既成見亦係因素之一
( F8 u7 u- \! x" ?" ^. U7 `名字的確不是很重要一環
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& ?8 y/ D( E# i/ j/ \; R4 N我始終想講既係改英文名呢個潮流我不是太認同4 P2 C, w9 ~5 \# P% N! y# A2 r, z
日常生活中國人對中國人為什麼都要改個英文名相稱呢
4 h2 e8 v. |0 V可以說是喜好問題
' S# o& r0 J/ s; Y+ G4 y唔到旁人干涉
: w3 Q' B! t; }# O% E8 K但呢個喜好絕對係潮流帶動# |5 E: a) ]9 {* ~! X; k
至於點解我唔種意同覺得奇怪我亦唔想再重覆; p, @4 J/ S+ Q7 W8 B9 }- W" x: F

) g( x% ^$ j* j. l3 T- J講左咁多我都想講返句係呢個topic我同樓主既立場同好多人迴異$ O! K5 Z' c8 h/ c: F; E* C
幸好都無引發咩罵戰
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adamas

想補充多點我身處多倫多呢個多元文化城市  X* s. g. N2 Q- h3 w& P1 d$ c
對呢個topic真係感同身受
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% Z7 w  V+ Y6 y就剩係眼見大部份中國人用英文名自我介紹
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我唔係話多數人做既等於對或好(我指既係非英語母語既外國人); V* W! b2 l. e9 p: i- |+ F
就好似我自己唔覺得改英文名是有必要或喜歡呢個做法(在大多數中國人都覺改個英文名係必要既情況之下)
0 q3 s, d% d9 t. n/ l- g" i只係仲未有理由讓我覺得這是有必要的

gwengwan

平常就都是叫自己的中文名啊* m, c2 u7 r$ g- F9 L
沒有英文名耶...