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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. K( P/ h, ^) e! N. b' y! s

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! S! _; g- R$ z+ J

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4 \% e$ a( Z/ l; LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 Z- k; O, u2 H- F5 g( b* D( p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" H! b5 p, k, k
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) l  Z1 Y8 B  _0 |" I5 wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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. |* \; n& r/ \  s( T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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* _5 z, u8 j; E. L+ v2 K2 Asee #22 Thus* B5 R* t8 j! U3 ?1 F$ t1 o7 g: j% |) C

6 h! ^) ~) h) m9 G" V+ E7 @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( v$ H! v% |# U, Z1 ~! r. i9 q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 J# D5 [* l+ h- q  n9 r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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: A) H$ U( D$ ?5 GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ [' b" a4 k# h8 b5 e' c

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: s" N% T" L6 ^* eAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ o" i; q' f1 _) G他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 h" ?, y" t2 H3 @

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% ?" J" b  Q7 d8 _; r& k
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......