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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 e6 b3 Q+ g" d) T& I

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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' e2 X8 P# F  r) {9 `, sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! l+ g4 R7 }/ wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  j: m0 E# J% h' l; ^

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. Z6 D* K. z6 y" X7 m4 V* JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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  `1 f; v# o' t& }why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?* N4 x) r" }- B; \% ?

' v  K( I8 [4 Y" R+ ^4 ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; b! b5 G. v( _6 a" Y7 [; n% z% P* G軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; h: O9 M  u+ m

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! _8 U, U. o/ ]) v! c4 O8 K& I$ q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  H8 Y' z5 e% P" S$ `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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. h% J  y8 h: Q1 Z  C; E1 ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' u4 E4 n8 n% M7 k3 b, BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' K, b% u% u0 {6 J. R

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$ C9 a1 b" _' o! C1 |& a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ F0 F& O/ B/ G% W$ e8 o4 ]
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yes, that's the point.

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