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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

7 n- b, P4 P& abut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: P! y6 \) {6 F4 U) }! c! x

9 [5 s( H1 r! q1 T! tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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' F( X! p; m/ L: T6 R6 E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" A0 I1 T; Y) f' @; [: Q

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 D; K: S" V, L' [8 {8 v智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* P. e( v# s" [8 X- V3 _7 j

8 P. u+ @+ O0 ^7 }0 o軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 F! \7 x& G" |( W  U! k

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 X6 Y* p, a% r2 ~! f( |In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' r6 E# `* h) U3 |9 ~9 H0 n
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7 ^" u) r; i4 S  f# P/ x( X2 \他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ L' F7 W0 F3 ]8 e1 m1 m
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! E+ M* a% v9 p! F) M' U& H0 _6 _
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: E7 d! r0 t" |) H9 b
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......