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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 j. ~! R3 M- R* C3 l7 G

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 W! o2 c- i3 A' o" I1 c" s& |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& y9 M3 u. e4 Q, l: F: J% U2 P7 ]2 g

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* z7 k2 r5 v" l3 Z) Z$ q+ h$ nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: R; @# t$ h/ U9 v. K/ K+ z& T, Z

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: t5 x( K5 a1 y$ x# h/ {( X其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 C9 s' i/ q3 i" T) ^$ _2 n# }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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" J5 G' {' W5 y! t& `5 i; B軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 h! r+ T+ r% ]
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: G8 j1 P2 d/ ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ n9 ~6 I! s/ J  d! l

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& t2 j- W7 \+ o* }( `( NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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( k: T0 |+ G4 i8 j. myes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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