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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& E& F1 l% ~# i

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: w0 c. A; D. ?! c

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# `! _4 D. B) q  ?; d" ~! WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 o% v4 I7 Q) x1 z9 ^  Z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 A8 y8 w2 u( j* L2 I5 ~/ s
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 @3 h; D3 X; A; C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, [9 w$ S" y  x- s5 I0 IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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+ a/ V' m- I4 {' c9 sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 Q# r+ ^7 L* J) ~

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:" d$ J4 G, @. O$ v8 D2 ~% @

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 c  a8 f5 a7 dyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......