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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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( R; K! V2 X* |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 J2 x  M" v+ J  K. [

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 F3 h6 f" u# H7 o/ o. R

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. m$ F7 c& H5 z9 q; m& y

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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6 n2 d# @7 E) l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 }" d! u/ |! P; t; Ksee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( ~7 W- x, B9 d$ K% b  a; S. uIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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4 l. g8 a9 H% V5 k& T" zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, Y; @: M* r) x5 L9 I( m+ a' ]
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 J5 b' g, }5 n0 D% a0 `- b2 o

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) \; ~; s1 D" |& ~yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 [3 i  `0 G$ l+ n5 S

* ^9 |# D8 ~' Hyes, that's the point.

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