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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ V) B; i. m; p$ i3 z; y: o3 H

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  \8 R5 }4 `  Dbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 p6 M8 V) Y/ p6 {  ]8 l& z# ]% [

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# r( Y4 c' ~; o2 R  J8 e  p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 u$ V  |6 t4 B  y* c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) p2 N2 Q. ^. x1 m

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% G) p# i! X4 v1 F  @/ u" Q
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6 H1 ]# R2 N7 G- ?: m* F' ]* aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 c$ R7 x0 q% C# ?, D

  j* [& c5 `+ u% G0 gyes, that's the point.

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