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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 C. I& f1 }# ]: ?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 B; M0 Y/ n( L* s( v  G" B
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 Z; N  `0 O( _. K2 ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮." Y/ U( ?& Y$ m+ d5 ?! R

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* x( u  b% h$ a! M

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why?5 G3 S: d( h" u) J1 g5 Y' J5 W7 z

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) H# q- T, l+ t  t+ F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, k+ {) Y/ I' q0 x- f# u$ n* L8 V& xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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" ]! {) {, Z1 OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; x5 |# ~; S: i) T: }

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0 x- H  ^" S. u& H5 nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' T) U/ L8 z. p$ O# T) n

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: _1 {( f) @: M' t4 h  c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 g1 C7 n& W+ }& r0 Q5 D  x

7 h2 r* h! M$ H# P0 D, I+ jyes, that's the point.

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