Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
' {+ L7 g7 ~. M. e我係一個連自己都吳信的人2 T+ S4 v+ V& e1 G  |
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
; u. m* J1 b. y( _( P8 }+ P7 C道理我知道好多只係做吳到( e$ P$ _/ r# k6 ]/ p
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!2 ?2 w* x/ h) D
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....  C/ F7 k, @, c/ b! ~- l2 j
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!# P0 b+ L# R8 C: Z5 e8 |
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
( L, F- K( H5 Q+ I真的!!這不是反話
$ ]# x. j+ ^* d因為我是情感比理性強的人
: V2 s' v( o% I所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
! T, T1 l+ O# N+ g0 P以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
3 M  r5 G6 M& {0 H在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...$ @) D9 M, [' K# d$ z5 X
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:9 e" @* f" f) n# H- s2 h: d" ^
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?7 W* t2 Q/ K0 F+ ]

$ n7 d+ A& _) d- TJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ' }! ^9 H9 S9 {* E
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
, o1 c2 A5 L8 g& a9 V建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
# u6 O' C! j4 N, MYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
' r* }% I7 q7 ubut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......  i* }; h* m) f) U7 l5 \
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it's starting because we have sins......' l* d! y3 o4 x5 z9 B# O% A5 ~$ S0 H
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 5 v( o# d- l5 w# ?5 b4 t+ ^& c  y# J
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
- D7 }6 B3 H3 {這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
/ g+ X3 M9 _5 e' A如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
( _; H: e! L; F而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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$ |' Y1 e( H( }3 {導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
; a9 _6 w! H0 I# f. a( a) G; `好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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# h6 x' g3 Y, s3 {一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
! `, V; `0 R- G. _) R, e4 D+ {改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法: Q2 f& b& R+ H+ f6 C" M3 t- _+ i
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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/ i/ t. h, p" s宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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' V7 L( K+ u/ [, O5 e3 p6 C吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
' J5 g) \' Q+ U$ I' k信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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8 f9 ]+ g+ o3 ]6 Y" o+ m以下是其他人的見解,% @; p8 f; T; s% Z
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............) F7 c: s% M7 F/ H; a- H' p3 e
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!' n& W2 h. \, c
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, O; y$ Y* \% |5 l

1 A' d2 y6 O+ V4 j5 g( w, `同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
' S/ ?) u+ B; F0 ^.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....5 \2 X9 p( M; b) j( R  f2 a6 m
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 d$ B8 I6 W  k9 u
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.