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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:) c- X  p( \6 n' s* T; k
我係一個連自己都吳信的人' ]* l' \. f- g. [( N7 x
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢+ Y2 q2 G% S. ^$ ?" l
道理我知道好多只係做吳到$ V, J0 E0 C4 F, G- g  F0 X9 M' o
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!6 V. C( ^* i0 w$ k5 ?  W6 M  q

( I  q9 `: _0 a/ sNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies..... x7 |  i, q8 G
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....' R8 Z& U( w& h! z6 e

% b% ~8 T. {. ^) Bstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
1 z0 e/ K% j- A" `$ J1 T4 Ccheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!6 V+ E5 w& c) {% j& C' n
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
6 i0 I( f* e" _8 E; |; v% s& J* E以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
: m! n0 O1 M& j& P& r% G在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
/ v1 a) N; Y& K6 M2 z+ m建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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. q4 B+ |1 m: g! s+ M" a0 VWhat a statement we have here?
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9 J# F# \/ K* F7 tJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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- ^7 c; d$ k+ V- f2 \% a; v' s( EI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.+ N7 [/ ?. I3 ~) A

( a/ ~9 F4 W$ {" ULooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo/ j9 E/ t  q& V; i2 Z

6 ?9 ^+ o! q1 s5 E:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:+ r# X, T* f! T0 q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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% M/ G) u* e( Y# D9 m3 F) m# K"不信也沒損失"3 R: d. ]6 ]( m8 z' }1 a9 D! [
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....6 A6 @  u+ q4 v5 n! X
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
% x- s% ]* w# k. k: \# C2 Lsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
* D/ c8 }5 W8 L2 A6 r& uour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
/ C9 A( ?% J  ~# I只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,0 s! `- @3 R  `0 E
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,# z6 b( g! o3 l) q( g2 {, \
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 X; P  b5 V& V+ }如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
! p+ o# T9 O# p6 z8 z而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~  m; z, Y2 @6 P, N/ a7 S; u  T

/ n. p& V- w' \2 n! Q: B; g導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
4 r; V& e2 k; k! I6 ]5 X4 i1 Y# p( ~( `好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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; Q! [1 z' [5 l4 k* \一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,+ Z# L0 c) U" ~3 t3 }
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
' y: _$ b; k4 c2 V1 T9 `. n9 p美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...4 I- O; P% n. N" Z. ]
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具4 r0 u7 s8 {4 O. k% Z
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
+ Q* T& n# @0 {! _7 q% U信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干- y. e, {: e. G. }& }* s, T6 a) o

5 U% D3 G! v0 A. f( H7 S以下是其他人的見解,
0 f3 A5 w+ \" h2 i3 b: x, T看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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4 g# O! Q7 A: ^- |[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!. x; m3 M9 z8 D. m5 P& L4 D

5 u+ W! {& i7 T9 ~, u2 \不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!. U" j2 W( F2 i& s3 P

6 u5 L/ r, z! B9 ]; u- |: F; `5 i- n我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, M$ g* u( {- G4 i+ g
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
; j2 N* ]+ G5 B9 J# k& v7 b8 o8 q.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....( ]5 l0 ?+ c  R3 L  d* ~1 r) p3 K
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....: J  j! v5 x2 @2 \% I
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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