singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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% g2 @' F4 i* s* J4 Z" A% ?+ D) HThis is a good po ...

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" h2 ]6 V- O5 `1 Y# K; y多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".  A. q+ i) S9 A) h" k  ^8 O8 g
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".) M8 S3 c% p2 [  A4 h1 a- k
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:, ~+ I* S$ R) a! `" Q' C  m0 E
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psycho is hard~.~
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. h3 P" ?6 a& Kgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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! H4 V: x, o5 z0 N; g0 Khahhaa, 不用客氣( [. B1 x2 Z9 Z& G: T

8 s4 {. j/ I" I我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 6 E$ z7 g3 I7 d' m* d) ~
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀$ Y5 ^! w3 h  x* Y2 L

7 \! q. J; M4 _8 n' y哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:8 Z' A$ b$ Q/ N" j
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.1 W6 \. ^# g7 E. y
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:" N/ Y9 L/ ^- C* a: s( b% ~3 _
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psycho is h ...

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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:, E( Z5 b! I' Q5 b; z; v
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.& v8 @, v/ L- C' p
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢3 R$ x; D$ C% W9 Y

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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持6 b' l8 ~8 k. f/ `% w4 C

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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; ~5 ]3 Z3 I8 j: U; c8 ]) mhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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  ?' U; Q9 ~8 c/ E0 [& u/ jhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO - Q% x' {+ T% C0 Y
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
# d, G; X- P, Wbesides, crap! interest to ask u
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