singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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2 M# o3 @8 ?! j/ x, A7 Q. CThis is a good po ...

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3 G2 a3 P# D: r8 @" M6 i7 [* ^多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".  O. p8 T* d7 `" r
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".; r, r* U# g' i+ T& i8 f

$ v. s/ v# y" w* C8 }( A5 u例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%' d& ~& b9 q( Y' p( i" E( T' g2 K
會考就係最好的例子.
# {9 E4 E6 U% O2 @9 ]就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
+ y$ c2 a- ^7 M- Nhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:9 b' U  m% a3 |+ k6 F6 d

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5 r7 _: V) ^2 G/ n7 \多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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' \  ^4 E7 X1 a- |我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
" P/ {8 B7 v4 u/ ]" h& Q以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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# O% P. Z1 }/ u+ ^8 |& M3 B" \# y哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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# }/ A$ G" r8 K' ^$ ?哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:, g2 [1 K+ W  M+ C9 k0 V
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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:" M  {+ Y3 g- t# `
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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1 q0 ?" m# J) ]5 d: o* o哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦7 ]4 y& h, @' J" g" u" I+ l
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持/ F' j' o# r  q- X" `9 a

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:- k* r! u: y, y, z& ~

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, g( q! Y8 ?/ E( M& R( H2 @, J5 r1 xhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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: o& F! [7 g! K% i, D* Hhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)1 A4 p3 R7 T9 N2 o
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0 I5 m+ }6 V) c5 j# oagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO ; b5 f0 u2 ~# y; A* w7 f
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la% {( e2 W7 ~3 ~
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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