singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".3 @. s4 ^" C/ r2 \

4 F4 T# V1 u- p% J& s8 n  x相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%; R- p6 E* K% b, _1 i  k! T# `/ Y1 f
會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:1 B  D* G7 G+ t, `- \
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+ A8 z7 c: o! ~haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me6 K' K. J: |! t- i( E* P4 ^
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 4 z# J) R' g" c  J4 e
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:& A- e5 W- X4 E1 w  L
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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:3 }2 _. h/ g1 O9 ~& z. O. S
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.- B! |: \! N$ s. A: e3 z' o
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢" q2 `" F' ~- Y- P/ \' e

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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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7 z" l: B# z$ K5 {; A, H1 m1 thaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)2 {" Q) F4 w, Q# r+ ^4 M, N
pls enjoy
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO ' u; E) G+ [' {( p! `
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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