jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
2 b: @7 E2 ], E# B仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架, {3 ]7 @: |! J$ f( z
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. Z# d/ \6 B+ c: q; Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% a! z. K1 w) x; F. x2 L9 j1 xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) @7 H4 X7 w/ d" c) w5 z% R
why this happen? just simple........punishment0 h/ {& P  Y; J& C" I" z6 M( Z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 ~6 _! g. x1 j9 v: \* C0 ]9 r. ]: Ibut why jesus need to do this?! g4 ]+ p6 O6 T7 j) Y' e8 y
punsihment for what???5 w7 N2 f. Z. w7 w8 s/ k. u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, i7 A0 m. c1 P# u# }, Ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. `" a$ G9 f9 }) o! L" k& I
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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+ p1 }5 H+ A, V1 Yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉% F3 @' X5 f. [4 B  E+ Z* o

; j! y, n- ], L$ X6 ?4 }& Q但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( s4 k4 a' ?) [- A$ ~6 }% I

3 }/ @8 C2 Q4 p" t; h, \4 z& v咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
6 A) r2 N( y0 _1 R3 z3 A+ Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ A' b7 D* T/ ]: b2 Wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 y7 d- m1 p0 W3 Cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment! u, T! W( I4 {0 M4 x" h( u& u4 j
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; W& m% O5 B( J8 ^
but why jesus need to do this?
/ e9 L7 M) v7 i0 n* j$ `punsihment for what???
& s) D$ @# u$ G7 b( Gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* S0 D/ B, d! e: {* U& A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# ]' Q  b" y* A/ L0 m
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - w) ]: G! z6 o! v5 S/ D. ?
what will u do???
0 f; r* X: _$ i9 \- c2 D; jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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% `5 C4 K  x) S! [0 Z% ebro, did u know that there is a...

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& g5 Z' G+ l5 U& i. r7 W% \) u1 i好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 1 q! U3 D2 t. ~

- ^1 r" q# ^" b8 {# _議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, A# a: q& \& ^honestly, if there is jesus
! [+ o1 S$ t9 i9 Rhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ j- V: e0 S8 d7 C/ {: E- F* `5 Iwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 X9 ~; N8 W# [: a9 c" _

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& t; ~# u9 I, S$ n; h" k
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
: R: j. C& J9 z( Q8 x. t' Q% ~so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
: @/ _$ J9 L& d6 [, }now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( o0 b% M: ^3 Q2 [9 _" t7 j5 D$ n
bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 p" e, |  e6 ?! b3 d8 d% I( j. zhonestly, if there is jesus& }6 U) n/ M1 p: d+ C- h5 P. a: N% S
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 O# Y/ d3 i" b' l0 uwe can't blow him :cool:

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# ~0 f: {8 r$ _6 O4 z; Yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics- |3 n. L2 C" p6 U8 N% a! C  I
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! W6 B6 z+ ?! I: {: G7 X+ I' z. T
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: