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錯誤百出的聖經

錯誤百出的聖經

我在網上宣揚了一下進化論，揭穿了某些神創論者的把戲，很讓
有些人頭疼。有信徒來信指教我：“不管你怎么說，進化論與聖經不
符，所以一定是錯的，因為聖經記錄的是上帝的話，一句頂萬句，句
句是真理。你現在膽敢為進化論辯護，乃是犯了大罪，將來是要下地
獄的，趕快懺悔，皈依我教，或許還有得救的可能。要皈依我教，第
一步就是要讀聖經。聖經的作者有四十幾位，但是實際作者只有一
個，那就是上帝。所以聖經的成書雖然長達一千多年，卻首尾一貫，
前后呼應，沒有一絲一毫的紕漏，這正是上帝存在的最好証明啊。”
說得我砰然心動，趕快借了本聖經來讀。這一讀不得了，人家說沒有
一絲一毫的紕漏，我怎麼盡看到前后不一致、自相矛盾、違反常識的
錯誤呢？屈指一算，有好几十處。定是我弱智，沒能領會上帝他老人
家的意思。我知道網上聖經專家不少，特提出我的疑問請專家們指
正。

１、上帝先造動物還是先造人？是同時造男造女還是先造男后造女？

說法一：〔創１：２３〕“神就造出大魚和水中所滋生各樣有生
命的動物，各從其類﹔又造出各樣飛鳥，各從其類。……是第五
日。”“于是神造出野獸，各從其類﹔牲畜，各從其類﹔地上一切昆
虫，各從其類。”“神就照著自己的形象造人，乃是照著他的形象造
男造女。……是第六日。”

說法二：〔創２：７〕“耶和華神用地上的塵土造人，將生氣吹
在他鼻孔里，
他就成了有靈的活人，名叫亞當。”“耶和華神說：‘那人獨居不
好，我要為他造一個配偶幫助他。’耶和華神用土所造成的野地各樣
走獸，和空中各樣飛鳥，都帶到那人面前看他叫什么。”“耶和華神
就用那人身上所取的肋骨，造成一個女人，領她到那人跟前。”

比較一下，我們會發現，“創世紀”第一章、第二章有關上帝創
造萬物的順序的說法截然不同：

第一章：天地光→空氣水→植物→日月星→動物→人（有男有
女）
第二章：天地→男人→植物→動物→女人

神創論者是試圖用“創世紀”來代替進化論的，但這第一章和第
二章自相矛盾，不知道我們應該相信哪一章？

２、蛇吃土？

〔創３：１４〕“神對蛇說：‘你既作了這事，就必受咒詛，比
一切的牲畜野獸更甚﹔你必用肚子行走，終身吃土。……’”

不必是動物學家，一般的人也知道蛇不吃土，難道上帝的咒詛一
點效用都沒有？

３、蝙蝠是鳥？

〔利１１：１３〕“（上帝對摩西、亞倫說）‘雀鳥中你們當以
為可憎不可吃的，乃是雕、狗頭雕、紅頭雕、鷂鷹、小鷹與其
類﹔……戴任與蝙蝠。”

〔申１４：１１〕“（摩西重復上帝的教導）‘凡潔淨的鳥，你
們都可以吃。不可吃的是雕、狗頭鷹、……戴任與蝙蝠。”

今天恐怕連小學生都知道蝙蝠是哺乳動物而不是鳥，當時的人不
知道不奇怪，但是上帝居然不知道！

４、兔子反芻？

〔利１１：１〕“耶和華對摩西、亞倫說：‘你們曉諭以色列
人，在地上一切走獸中可吃的乃是這些：凡蹄分兩瓣、倒嚼的走獸，
你們都可以吃……兔子，因為倒嚼不分蹄，就與你們不潔淨。豬，因
為蹄分兩瓣，卻不倒嚼，就與你們不潔淨。這些獸的肉，你們不可
吃，死的你們不可摸，都與你們不潔淨。”

莫非當時的兔子乃是反芻（倒嚼）動物，現在進化了？另外，今
天的基督徒還有多少人遵循上帝的教導，不吃兔肉、豬肉，甚至連摸
一下都不可以？

５、昆虫四足？

〔利１１：２０〕“（上帝繼續說）‘凡有翅膀用四足爬行的
物，你們都當以為可憎。只是有翅膀用四足爬行的物中，有足有腿，
在地上蹦跳的，你們還可以吃。其中蝗虫、螞蚱、蟋蟀與其類﹔蚱蜢
與其類﹔這些你們都可以吃。”

不必上什么動物學課，小時候抓過上帝提到的蝗虫、螞蚱、蟋蟀
的人都知道它們是六足，而不是四足。上帝若非未卜先知，何不屈尊
抓一只蝗虫研究一下？

６、一對還是七對？

〔創７：１〕“耶和華對挪亞說：‘……凡潔淨的畜類，你要帶
七公七母﹔不潔淨的畜類，你要帶一公一母﹔空中的飛鳥，也要帶七
公七母，可以留種，活在全地上﹔……”
〔創７：８〕“潔淨的畜類和不潔淨的畜類，飛鳥并地上一切的
昆虫，都是一對一對的，有公有母，到挪亞那里進入方舟，正如神所
吩咐挪亞的。”

上帝明明說潔淨的畜類和飛鳥，要各帶七對，挪亞竟敢偷懶，只
各帶一對，然而卻說“正如神所吩咐挪亞的。”

７、天有柱、地有基？

〔伯：２６：１１〕“天的柱子因他（神）的斥責震動驚奇。”
〔伯：３８：４〕“（上帝對約伯說）我立大地根基的時候，你
在那里呢？你若有聰明只管說吧！你若曉得就說，是誰定地的尺度？
是誰把准繩拉在其上？地的根基安置在何處？地的角石是誰安放
的？”

這一段，令人想起了中國的神話：天圓地方，天是靠四根柱子支
撐著的。原教旨主義者要我們相信聖經上的每一句話，看來連天文
學、地理學都得改寫了。

８、地球是平的？

〔太：４：８〕“魔鬼又帶他（耶穌）上了一座最高的山，將世
上的萬國與萬國的榮華都指給他看”

“萬國”，查英文版，指的是世上所有的王國(all the
kingdoms of the world)
。地球是球形的，不論站在多高的山上，都不可能看遍整個地球，只
有地球是平的才有可能。顯然聖經的作者認為地球是平的，但是遠在
此之前，希臘學者已經知道地球是球形的，并且准確地測出了它的半
徑。

９、上帝就是魔鬼？

〔撒下：２４：１〕“耶和華又向以色列人發怒，就激動大衛，
使他吩咐人去數點以色列人和猶太人。”
〔代上：２１：１〕“撒但起來攻擊以色列人，激動大衛數點他
們。”

根據上下文，這兩段話描述的是同一件事。這激動大衛的究竟是
耶和華還是撒但？或者耶和華就是撒但？

１０、上帝能不能看見？

說法一：可見
〔創３２：３０〕“我面對面見了神，我的性命仍得保全。”
〔出２４：９〕“摩西、亞倫、拿答、亞比盧，并以色列長老中
的七十人，都上了山。他們看見以色列的神，……他們觀看了神，他
們又吃又喝。”
〔出３３：１１〕“耶和華與摩西面對面說話，好象人與朋友說
話一樣。”
〔出３３：２３〕“（上帝對摩西說）然后我要將我的手收回，
你就得見我的背，卻不得見我的面。”
〔摩９：１〕“我看見主站在祭壇旁邊。”

說法二：不可見
〔出３３：２０〕“（耶和華）又說：‘你不能看見我的面，因
為人見我的面不能存活。”
〔約１：１８〕“從來沒有人看見神，只有在父懷里的獨生子將
他表明出來。”
〔提前６：１５〕“到了日期（最后審判），那可稱頌，獨有權
能的萬王之王、萬主之主，就是那獨一不死、住在人不能靠近的光
里，是人未曾看見、也是不能看見的，要將他顯明出來。”
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發表於 2005-6-30 05:34 AM | 只看該作者
don't just read one bible versus and say this and tis la..
if you are really interesting in bible, pls goto study in bible college,
this will kill so many people to have bias beahviours.....

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Response to Q1

1. Comparing the passages on Gen 1:23 and Gen 2:7 and the order of creation.
To avoid further arguments, let me just say the Hebrew word (the original language of the Old  Testament) for ‘day’ has a two-fold meaning. It could mean a 24 hr day (just like ours) or simply a period of time.

The order of the creation is as such:
“Day” 1 in Genesis 1:-3-5 (appearance of light, division of light from darkness and naming of day and night)
“Day” 2 in Gen. 1:6-8 (makinf of expanse, division of lower waters from upper and naming of heaven)
“Day” 3 in Gen 1:9-13 (division of lower waters from dry land, naming of earth and seas, command to produce vegetation, resultant production of vegetation)
“Day” 4 in Gen. 1:14-19 (command that lights appear, stated their purposes, making the sun and moon)
“Day” 5 in Gen. 1:20-23 (command to produce fish and birds, resultant creation and blessing of the same)
“Day” 6 in Gen. 1:24-31(command to produce land animals and the decision to make human being; finally the provision of vegetation as food)
“Day” 7 is the ‘day’ God rested.

I don’t believe the bible is a chronological book in which the events unfolds like a history book. This book is not intended to be read as a novel because there are a lot of repetitions.  The account in Genesis 2:7 is not the exact duplication of the Genesis 1. ]You are right. Man simply means human beings that include male and female (Gen. 1:23). And Gen. 2:7 shows Adam was the first to be made….from 2:8-17 we have the creation of the Garden of Eden…and then Eve was created in 2:21ff. We never have any sayings in Genesis 1 that says God did all the creations in the 6 days in Gen. 1. Even old school scholars from Harvard Divinity school would believe creation is an on going process till today

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Response to Q 2,3, and 4.

Question #2 Regarding the serpent eating dust in Genesis 3: 14-15

The Hebrew word ‘dust’ (abaq, apar in transliteration) is used literally and in similes to express: poverty, smallness and abasement. The culture of the Jewish people in the Old Testament would put ash/dust on the head as a sign of sorrow and sadness. As a matter of fact, Jewish still practice this today in their culture. This word ‘dust’ is not to be taken as real dust.

Question#3 Regarding the bat as a bird in Leviticus 11:13 and Deutornomy 14:11

Here the identification of the species listed may present a problem, but here ‘birds’ means birds of prey or eaters of carrion. In the classification of the Arabs, the bat is classed as a bird. We have to remember the Arabs and Israelites were in the same family originally.

Question#4 Regarding the rabbit chews the cud (反芻) in Leviticus 11:6

Do the rabbit really chew the cud in the scientific sense of having gastronomical system wherein several stomachs are used for processing food? It is believed cows, sheep and goats ‘regurgitated’ their food. That’s the normal meaning of ‘chew the cud’. The Hebrew expression for ‘chew the cud’ is literally ‘raising up what has been swallowed.’ But what does that mean? Surely there is the appearance of a cud-chewing process in the rabbit. In fact, so convincing was this appearance that Carolus Linnaeus, who invented the modern system of biological classification, first classified the coney and the rabbit as ruminants. I believe the claims of the rabbit chewing the cud is based on observation, not on the scientific refinements of classification. It is true that the camel, coney and rabbit go through similar motions as the cows, sheep and goats.

Leviticus is a book of instructions for the Israelites to do sacrifices to God in the Old Testament times. The meaning of the sacrifice is for the people to remember who God is to them (God doesn’t eat the food, nor does he need the food to feed his hunger!). Christians (Protestant and Catholics) don’t have to obey the sacrificial laws because they believe the death and resurrection of Jesus have already substitute the sacrifices.

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Response to Q 5-6

Question #5 Regarding ‘all winged insects that walk on all fours’ in Lev. 11:20

The English translation of the Hebrew word ‘sherets’ (transliteration) is insects. The English word ‘insects’ means ‘swarming things’. They are small creatures that often occur in swarms and move to and form in haphazard fashion. “Sherets’ is a boarder term than the English translation. In Hebrew, “walking on all fours” is the opposite of walking uprightly: the number of legs is irrelevant.

Question #6 Regarding ‘one pair or seven pairs’ in Noah’s luggage in Gen 7:1-9

God’s command: seven pairs of every clean animal (v.2), two of (a pair) every kind of unclean animal (v.2), and seven of every kind of bird (v.3).

In v. 5 we see Noah ‘did all that God commanded him.”

Gen 7:8 says ‘Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of birds and of all creatures’. This simply means the animals are in pairs, not in singles. Even the often mistaken Chinese (Union Version) and English (New international Version) translations get this right. So I don’t understand what the fuzz about 1 pair and 7 pairs.

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Responses to Q7-9

Question #7 & 8 Regarding Pillars of the sky and Flat Earth in Job 26:11, Job 38:4 and Matthew 4:8

Figure of speech is used here in all instances. The bible is composed of different genres (history, prophecies, narrative, laws, poetry, etc.). In both Job and Matthew the author used figurative speech of illustrate his point and did not mean literally the pillars of the sky and all kingdoms of the earth. I suppose we would not read 娛樂news with the same mindset of the editorials, right?

Question #9 on God as Satan in 2 Samuel 24:1 and 1 Chronicles 21:1

2 Sam. 24:1 says “Again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, ‘Go and take a census of Israel and Judah.’ “

1 Chronicles 21:1 says “ Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.”

Both passages are indeed, recording the same incident. What does the word Satan mean?

Literally, the name Satan means ‘the accuser”. This ‘accuser’ is the Satan we know in our modern day portrayal of the ‘devil’ in the book of Job. The Hebrew word of ‘Satan’ in the book of Job is always preceded by the definite article. The meaning of ‘Satan’ is the ‘accuser’ in the book of Job. However, the Hebrew word ‘Satan’ in 2 Samuel and 1 Chronicles is not the same one as in the book of Job. The ‘definite article’ is not used there. I know that sounds confusing but if you can read the Hebrew translation you would know the difference. Our misunderstanding is like a foreigner trying the learn the difference between calling someone 大佬 and calling someone 呀哥 in Cantonese.

Let me just say a few words on the fundamentalist (原教旨主義者). It is true that they hold on to an extreme literal position of the bible. They believe the bible means literally everything (word for word). I want to point out most denominations of the Christian church don’t hold this strict point of view on the bible. In fact the fundamentalist point of view is dying as we speak today.
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wt the ---....my chinese are even better than yours..mate..read it again la...stupid GOOK..
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你應該去聖經班讀下聖經先。你而家好似個小學生睇大學chemistry書一樣，表面睇落去就自己用自己既理論去理解。
如果你係o岩，你可以係聖經班度提出，係o岩既野始終都係o岩。
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Response to Q 10

Question #10 Regarding ‘seeing’ God

According to the bible, God is holy and great so sinful people (like the Israelites) would die if they meet God face to face. But why would God allow people to see him and spare their lives (like Moses)?

The references on not being able to see God are there to illustrate God’s glory, pureness and holiness. This is done to show God is a holy God and he requires his creatures to be holy as well.

On the other hand, the bible also gives us the idea that God loves his people so much that he revealed himself to people directly (Moses, Samuel, David, etc.) and indirectly through nature and experiences (to all mankind throughout time). God’s purpose, according to the bible, is to love us (like how our parents are supposed to love us) , not to keep a distance from us. God has a standard (holiness) but he would shield that from his people (who will die according to God’s standard) so people can come direct to him and thus complete his promise to mankind.
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不過我欣賞你對聖經的興趣!!
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