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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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7 A2 I3 u4 j, E* f, x8 [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! r0 g1 _& f5 {0 F' |4 K

) r3 F8 A# n! wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( E% P6 N+ M+ P

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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) o$ [6 S6 e( D; P* l  VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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* z' }7 P6 @- J0 @其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 F% j* ~. H/ Z! I# @4 S- ksee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* l9 @: w2 c5 ~, z/ ]3 r& v$ g- D
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ n; V! h# ?6 m0 @

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 f0 o8 ]* d' [6 H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& F$ R( Q: P' ~; t% M2 q3 \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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8 i3 _+ u3 o+ z7 ]+ y; O% I他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" p* Y$ G" k9 n. s6 A

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 k. x: [3 s  |- u4 \

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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+ H' @; A! w7 L) Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

$ b5 g9 Q) c& u  `+ R" Qyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 i) a* B- Z& k/ e7 _

9 @/ ~# ?0 ]; a% c: ?yes, that's the point.

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6 d8 n: V2 r7 ^3 P! @陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......