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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- e9 F2 |0 D/ r9 s5 Q

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, z3 U# P- O, `( B$ ]+ k! e3 Z' a- k

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$ E, S  Z, ?" E, @4 _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 B! F  M& @& a& {8 y0 T7 s
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* m8 g  G( S6 @4 P# r& Y9 QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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1 M$ S1 g# o9 W  T3 E# H. {) t其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 q/ x! \0 ]) A2 ?5 C! T) R
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.* P2 ^2 `/ Z% ?

$ d) k! S' P, C7 a打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- W# ~% G" {7 n/ SIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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2 Y  D* M$ t. f$ w0 e他比孔明更偉大

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% e  U" z$ w2 ]( J1 i0 G4 GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 j, I: K( F- C9 L! Q

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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5 m5 ~+ C6 ]0 [0 R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( m5 Z+ Z7 ?) q. S

6 o" R. Y. Q7 L4 p3 D8 ryes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......