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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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7 X2 A- \) I& a& z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 f* W4 g; c5 D9 `' D! c; P$ E

" ~8 T  I8 Z/ I5 sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 r  w; j0 C5 T7 g( u2 {
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4 B. Y. m  K0 y- L; {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% o  `% v/ [2 ?) M; F

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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( G. Y( [  Q/ Y0 ~4 T+ V) h* W軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維: ~1 }; d! v5 O: ?- J
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.$ G  \" h& T2 X# A) G+ K, H' c2 K
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& e# v  [' e+ Y1 |$ `, y+ B+ ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) H6 v* ?. }3 V6 y* a
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 z3 D9 K- A( f  K; x* v6 x

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他比孔明更偉大

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- p$ g0 Q' \  f# ]0 sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 R+ X( d1 J, BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 O/ V; p3 J" ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# U  [: h# k/ E% L) I
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......