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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 i! A8 Q1 {* ]# ~
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& X+ U3 N! c2 O! M( y4 E8 {- C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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6 O- z' Y9 L- n其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& o+ w( i& \, ysee #22 Thus& F6 X8 Y& a5 h' ^

$ J5 T8 t& F4 k+ A$ p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' [# u/ q- [' W) r; w5 T/ U

+ I# l% ]; i; t, U軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.+ {2 J) F6 ~- [: M5 x# f
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 h' {! c, a" t; @" y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# y9 t  b+ G4 OIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" }- I  _6 t9 u5 o$ n7 L/ c8 Q$ L

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: b8 L8 B$ ?  H. p6 W" o5 o: J2 h
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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