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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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  X( p& F$ D: F# Qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 v# i: U6 I6 G+ D6 k7 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& r. H  {6 J' E, o$ B, r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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  c$ b1 u/ [- k# ?! K. M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* d) y. x( e, w. @! {: l: Y

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% @' X  U& ~8 j$ U$ W8 X, c) Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 `6 f- j/ ]7 \. ]3 e8 d" ~6 T. ~' h, c/ o

5 e5 x/ L! Z" S7 S7 b% K8 j; T' k  r+ U智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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0 Z* {% B2 B: V* {軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( R' O! L5 J& S6 E7 w7 q% E5 ]7 F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( H) M( k) ^1 M' H9 R2 b' E' j
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 I2 M6 |5 ?6 O; F8 V8 O

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1 q" j2 Y5 m& R. w( `) xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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. t; a' v0 Z2 I: ]% U) z( {. H4 X他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 B0 V# F$ S1 a% A- K

& D' ^5 b/ I, }- H6 `1 T# y% J1 ]yes, that's the point.

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