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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, g( f1 \. a& N3 Y, q( ]( g) M
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ F) M1 R; Z1 s7 K: W3 ~1 M# [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 p: [0 R( E) v5 J3 C1 _! ^

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2 v$ w& ^$ |4 b- ^! V6 \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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7 V" {9 s' ?5 D& i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus6 g) b9 B1 `  F) y# X# L

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' o  K: T1 o8 ~軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 j7 k  l: N, ^- ~: L
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  _/ \/ u0 a8 D4 V

6 `) i% L9 E0 ~0 L打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 c, e- S8 C0 h& G2 r0 ~7 a/ y
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ b- [; G$ X* J9 E" Y3 a' k0 {. ~( R
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. b. f7 w/ j, _' n, YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. l2 }  O& {9 U' P8 h- H( Z- p
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) `. v1 Z6 M5 c) G. c( ~7 B4 L9 uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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' I  d( L, J4 x# E5 u, _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......