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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:1 J. i2 d" G4 k' Q! y" R9 A; c$ a6 \9 e
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 r! \4 w2 R. g0 ?
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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+ U0 n+ c6 ?  G/ X! XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: g8 s7 @5 i+ t% `, I# L. F$ b/ R
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% w! W6 E% X$ j4 k1 n

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! N  o4 V. M8 J/ MIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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# V# S: ]; v% N1 [- ?- UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  P* r8 f# H2 y- G7 w# `

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7 J. x2 `- l$ a6 ~$ p. s8 q0 {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 A+ h6 [" i. [  q4 S3 c2 l: `. ~
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......