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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# i, C; M- F. ]; E6 T

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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/ b$ O3 @+ ?/ T. i" ?9 C$ @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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% ]" q& U& E5 o/ o/ Kwhy?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  Z9 D+ ]( ]6 ]3 ^) E) @& r6 o智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. d4 P! _! i  m# ?9 i
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 r6 J/ O" G9 [( w

1 {5 N- p$ I: h- b- W政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 A8 N8 \. t6 Z; {& x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& K; Y" b( P' z( J3 z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( M1 [+ ^$ s/ ^. r. |6 v5 uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 r5 b+ ?2 o* Z' k* N; r' F+ n8 X7 w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# j" y7 {2 y3 O他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 Q3 y2 n9 B& \- g

) x% F8 r. c' U9 _3 Qyes, that's the point.

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