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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  ^  `' C. L' S9 l; k% U+ G
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 i9 s: j2 B7 y1 k# t/ DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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* O3 B) l& H& T* C# {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! {7 T2 a0 z1 j- h其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?$ N% I/ h/ O) A& f3 b8 Z( C4 H3 z5 ]
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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- s$ w  c$ j  p/ t7 c! i智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( D. o! g5 a" @2 ?4 i
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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, e  G# W# T) {% w7 N打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., U& P3 j5 r) }* L# {) `
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 f9 n, s' H6 p4 K$ H+ a
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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% y( S6 ~5 s0 E# I1 Z% }$ J9 @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ j2 ^6 i+ E0 ^
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. Z" I3 u/ }- M/ N" d' l! A+ QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 f6 F- \+ Z6 ?9 Y+ o0 b4 F他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- ^; |( U# A5 n
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......