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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! D' c- D& b2 d# D: }/ k" h; T
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* i# y/ X' {. `

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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7 q; U3 F  h% ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' @) q3 S  h8 {( t7 O/ a4 m

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 @0 t* s/ Q+ _

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% u. g1 a% |) f3 P' V" `
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." S' h1 ]9 ]1 {, y% q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! W) [, @$ F& I1 lIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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  [5 Z' a* b# q- @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( ^7 a8 i! T6 m

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+ i$ G/ }, a/ P+ V* sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' t& e# \0 b3 k3 y4 x' s* ^
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 y! b) q- s3 h% Y4 v

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