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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  k$ S) t$ d4 A: y- @6 [5 O/ u1 h9 R% B

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  [# Y6 P$ b+ H/ Q0 r+ `5 S1 @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 Z" X  r; X4 _, E8 ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 X* D+ o. y- k5 W9 X, z* b
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, a6 y; z0 h/ y, f
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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, i% [' }3 E# [* y5 P6 m2 V6 ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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) I2 w( d5 u+ p1 E3 A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ u* O  n8 U5 k0 ~

1 `+ v2 L! t( N8 Y軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 t8 c# u4 p) q# P7 y& E
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# k: D  G# z5 Z! X5 d  y4 LIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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+ \' w+ u$ F1 GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( W& Z/ }$ s/ J! v

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) r9 F6 x( x( G- \& g% r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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6 E' u1 b2 s) @8 a5 s# c. S陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......