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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ x, ?! D( b- |5 \' ~- |4 N
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; J  J# V8 D- W" B6 s. K# ^- Q

, Y9 T& }9 l7 T  j) x' Tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; f* a  j  v( F6 oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. f3 {% x, d. l( ~( E+ ]4 M. ?5 B" q
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus- R: D! o4 M0 ?# W) E
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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9 |# `  t, v9 h. I- f政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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4 X, t4 h2 d( ]8 @9 j/ d; F7 {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; v2 J) U( e- K  L) d% j, c
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- ^& `, ]9 O7 x5 r, Z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. e, ~: k- P: i3 h+ S

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 K5 m8 h! L$ t& E2 @; _- F. b
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 E# s9 k& Z$ _7 g

  f  S$ T; F* P4 A0 z$ fyes, that's the point.

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% p3 `- `3 d/ d) J( M4 H5 D% U陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......