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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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# {* `& i7 v5 ]2 M2 l智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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0 P! w) h0 e0 q" q/ S) vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 V, U9 W. y8 m0 g+ Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 D% m4 h; o  Y& e

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus4 H" r' S) T6 j+ [* B8 O4 G
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* o% i% b% c! ~2 O. ?/ e& W* s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 f) X- D: [3 l( v* h; o# `/ BIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( [" b9 e3 j( p6 ]4 A

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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+ [  U5 h1 m' `8 n* r( IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ U9 b6 {3 e( G. b
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yes, that's the point.

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