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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, a- J1 _( u; i: Z) D% ^

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: h3 ?$ Q5 p8 ?7 G) ~
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; C1 ~" z! a( Q0 EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 x! W3 z( t2 V

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- T/ S9 I3 r% E1 t; `2 {4 F! [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 x8 f4 M/ e( V6 Y" [: b: e

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- M) c- k9 r: L" Y2 S1 }In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 l; C+ q, W/ _' u2 ~5 g
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他比孔明更偉大

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6 }0 j/ [  D9 cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ u8 S6 c3 Y' S$ w6 G
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) \# ^$ q) I- tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! P! G0 g$ x: y* v8 Q3 N

+ ~8 ^* ]+ J! f9 Q/ m  Pyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......