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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 F$ E$ U% ]) X2 H# n% f: J
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; I) }, F6 M8 t0 RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( L& n/ \0 w6 E' t
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ G  `  c: F/ Q  |) x9 C! B8 S6 B

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: T: b6 ]+ O( v7 bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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1 e4 U) G6 ^; Q* q6 ^, l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 Q. E$ m+ f3 Q; T, O6 y

" \" M2 G3 Y$ w( b+ }7 z2 \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 B3 x# U% n* m/ Y! Q& o

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 ^7 A) X1 P8 R; @* V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 q5 j6 t1 q8 y; s
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 d% i; D! v% z! O
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  b, K) T" {( l" U4 o" z7 I) o
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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! m' ]+ q9 J) p# w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......