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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& P, b! d0 i  a" I

' x1 S4 d$ J# U+ A/ {but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" y& k3 z9 }4 y' o+ W! Q, b4 c/ w- K
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3 ^5 t. X* t+ n/ e! O; @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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. w6 `1 p1 |2 R/ z* }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- c8 P& C, X# ^! ^  Z: y1 K) W, k
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% E4 q, U6 @: F# X# `8 U

# o) J. w: R# L; B- m打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." ]3 O3 U( L* j
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 V6 Y- B+ `6 E$ qIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% H% Y; u9 m( j
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. d" F7 K/ L( y* e  M他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# }/ a, d$ A9 U# n9 A% I8 H

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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8 K# Y5 X6 D$ j  E3 Byes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......