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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* u5 S* |& \4 _% R

% C1 X  |, _0 k; [  p. nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) B! N2 [' v9 M% y1 x" o! Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* ?( V0 m6 S6 S* |

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( A$ u( Q: _% uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 q; D* @2 ~5 U" h3 p! g; N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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* ^+ Y; [+ i. I& @( B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus7 U+ G% x" p" r. D* M/ R- Z

1 ~/ c: f0 y5 ?4 r- J智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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# [. }7 y0 L% \: a- z6 w軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維: C8 D" B9 n0 J  d0 f5 K  }5 n
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 e4 X9 U) d3 P* `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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: F$ w4 U6 p$ N* B他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, U9 m0 l* I3 U5 q

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ H  e9 h/ j% I" [' N
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! Q$ X- y" d+ Z+ K3 hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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! p( e% K) x- h% b* {! O; i5 d$ W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; ]: g* r, H% n! G( P) u
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. q9 K) _0 ^& z2 [; I. f( f他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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; G: w, c' ~& S9 ]yes, that's the point.

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7 t; L; c3 K$ Z0 V! ?- W陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......