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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- Q' {7 |# {7 a8 P  \* j5 }7 n$ j
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ G7 ^; e2 k' `! {+ e: n

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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* A, W1 \* i* @9 N9 F" Y7 b9 H' y) PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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- @+ c$ U# m4 G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ v) q3 o( |. q
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  M& h0 q1 g- [+ M# x7 C

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 m$ ^4 F- E* [$ V" }" IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ W0 _' Y! C; V) c$ f. w0 M

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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& A! w% E4 t: ^2 v5 ?& W( lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# E7 l9 N! D8 n; U
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9 q0 g. K+ S/ p. I% n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 ~( z' R) K  o4 h% jyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......