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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 ^" z9 v4 T$ \) N

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 `" F0 s9 x/ J$ j" K% e
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& ^4 `2 k4 E3 {+ LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' l" F) {( M+ X9 {3 I6 T# [# S
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1 T1 h+ Z! c2 |; w6 H' _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( a/ m; c: V/ L0 u* B+ t
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ c+ a- ^. }1 J

6 {* c* R5 m; x  A5 N軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  w' Z6 K1 W/ f: J+ p% ]
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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! C4 G4 Q; u+ ~9 Q* c  Z& X打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- v) Q; n4 b- S6 k% mIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" p% B" u9 ]. v) ~! L) s2 P* OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 S. |( [& u* |3 J; V2 u
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9 b: a- g0 O# K; ]他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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