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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 r2 k+ ]) X7 P6 U9 I# D  u4 C& I

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 v0 x8 R! D- O9 U
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 A! l8 Y2 [5 d; A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: n$ b( o& J" \6 V$ d% B" g0 i+ ]
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 t: I7 ^' M! D, L$ L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 \, n+ J, n  Q5 K  p

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" }1 R" r$ L5 L' h( LIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 A& e8 d1 ?( C+ h( k' v( UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  W8 H! [0 c( x) s: A
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: t, P) M4 j7 q1 R2 |7 _

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3 B+ h0 v' [0 g陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......