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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ L) p# K( Q1 E  S, P1 v

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5 I( |$ S, H/ k. {6 T6 R: t, k- M) o智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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% f- U8 {% O0 B* E% o5 m! Qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 `2 W+ q, M2 E+ c" C+ N0 Q8 Q) u

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: B/ U: Q' O3 I4 @$ b' |% W; a5 F6 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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4 G7 n; S; P! C0 p& S3 i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* K& {9 J$ V7 O% }
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 e" m# ?& p" N. Nsee #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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0 w  f# {" `9 k4 K' N4 u3 Z. }政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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5 t8 [1 ?5 T2 p# T打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- E+ R( l' I  J; x5 X/ m/ N  ?; l3 y0 sIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ i& W* s, K/ d8 Q( E; C6 H
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4 M+ S' ?" ?+ {! }# ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ n6 t3 a- u* s
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 O9 \7 c: Y$ q) d2 ~+ d/ f7 W/ K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

3 `  f( O7 j1 r. N$ j+ y7 z/ Byes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 Y2 S9 C# ~$ x/ a1 c  [
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yes, that's the point.

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