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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:1 Z+ L+ g& ]& M/ O. @  H
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ {9 |6 ?% ]' g) F! g% ~7 R
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 ^* ^- b) O) `7 J: r$ T; s7 W5 R

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4 z/ T. Q. c7 J8 D2 bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  i; H" p1 o' ]8 E2 ]% D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) x8 B/ [! W4 h% i9 [' S" }
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ f/ E# `' A( [0 F: ^9 @

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7 N" ?! B; F; W5 z$ E- o打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 \% G7 g9 m! p& P$ `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ X3 O8 ~, Q7 \" L, L
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 V# L# n( |# }
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他比孔明更偉大

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2 Y" s4 u* k/ |  A+ Z( l7 uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( U8 E3 U* P1 X3 E& v" n8 S
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0 X0 W  i+ k4 j: n0 \) w6 Y) F$ m; dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' S) r; m! B, K) H* C

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1 s2 ]& z* c- t/ d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 g+ x0 Z- r, x, S# Q
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......