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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# s! R7 r3 O" u. Z) C' W
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- w& C! u1 N% o- E* z2 W
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., x. G  ~! Q9 \- K# \; D# S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ b+ p/ A# B6 Q4 o, t

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9 }% e' x' j( C) |: h$ _! X) ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 M2 p6 ]1 `; A" j
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why?
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0 p; t0 a3 x# A: Q0 J0 O0 {4 {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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, D( z# R. ]/ @6 ^- }) i$ E軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; q  n3 z4 i. O- \" ]2 X
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.& B! h- `$ z4 @! f! h' h* ^7 x
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* ?: W0 d* h' [1 B- DIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 s9 u  K3 m4 y9 X, {, E4 e

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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% X: G4 c# |, T5 F2 c4 d8 q$ z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......