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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# z2 E( t  o  a# C0 d' Y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! ?- E( w/ h4 H! `+ r) \3 d/ eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 f2 c3 D- t: C
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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) T" K/ F. O" v. C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* U3 n0 ~" I. W8 c1 L2 y/ {! S
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 }- N) l/ @/ |% |% X/ S

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! g4 A. N& [% h* r4 e' o
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 C4 I" h; q$ M. W/ z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 U- V) R6 w( B7 @8 I
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3 R* E7 ]$ U. y. W" \; F, w% [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! |' {) ~5 @2 d! o9 w% Q
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 \$ y# `: Q7 S# b他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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% T- Y8 I9 M/ o- c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! q& n5 E4 {& `
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......