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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% t  ~: {' H& y* a" k; X0 M

9 c" W, C4 p9 @6 Z( j/ |1 Nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 p2 S5 f# i8 F' ^0 ~8 @, K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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" ?( n8 [9 F, [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 ]0 d6 ~" g( t2 {8 a" w
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- ?8 X3 k3 A) Q. I  k2 q; p1 ^
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  z& Y9 H5 g2 j* w3 t5 X* V

; D" i- m7 q' s8 w# A7 p' n) H打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ s0 U! L- A4 {4 `; z5 l
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. B& m2 Z7 l& \; I5 l5 c

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- |. H$ L! s: LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% L! _/ {) ~, ]! r
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! Q- B# T3 q- ?& c2 O+ F9 Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- F; J/ F, Y- G* V1 o
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......