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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ M5 i. n; i, @3 O( ~6 D
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 F! O1 I0 A( Z# E

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: l2 H+ Y7 _* ]0 j3 uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 w) @3 {0 l+ I8 |. y9 O4 y# v
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- n+ M8 n3 G% ^, f& q& u. D

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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: A0 r/ o  n  O/ q: B; Y( g打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." a& {3 f- N4 s3 P, h) r
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% u; \, ]- w: o) \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! s) K, `1 Q+ G
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: q1 _* x+ N% i6 }' D

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% G' L- @8 ?& \! x7 U他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* S8 a4 m9 [7 X5 i8 P, H

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......