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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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# u: G3 j$ e7 M" r+ F' L$ y9 z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  ~) j# [+ d, G+ Q, S
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 o, K* _9 v9 Y/ M( f

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" o( o) p1 Z  h& P& d; f8 E3 r

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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& `3 Q: _2 ?) I. Y2 x其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ f. Q; e& B" k0 m: y, F3 k

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6 G: v. E2 b9 j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 g9 y# v) Y: Z: x! f
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 p3 h6 l) h( P# f; q( x5 l
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 P; \- P1 W) d: s

/ @& U) N8 J: K6 R政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.2 \' W7 b! L! G" S$ [2 m" S- \

7 m* B5 y& X, Q2 x/ k% f6 x  {* {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." {3 f8 y5 }3 n, [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 m0 ]4 j1 F" X1 H9 Q& iIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 _0 v& E+ j* ^+ [+ z' b+ m8 s8 D( MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; w; E7 D0 u" A$ l3 D  u他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, n4 @3 \3 |- O/ E" n) O
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( B+ s" B9 c! e# X( W

. g2 \; T3 x! e# V) j& ^yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......