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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 T; h0 a! z/ @3 k9 U
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; w1 s1 U! y6 t! i
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:45 PM ]
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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; B6 ~' X8 P  F! ]& DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能:諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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5 S/ K. `+ U+ z2 k% h! q. o打:姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
網上身份誰不『機密』?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% a" B+ D) j5 B% RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 X, f' E" s; T, L! Z) p
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# V7 G" `3 }1 `( t- oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
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( B  \  Q4 c8 |  J* X& ?* W他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.
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