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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ N" B0 o2 U$ R9 B
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 @3 |# t" ^9 M9 wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; @2 B2 Y+ u) f/ s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' A: b6 a: w4 Q. ]) A+ y- g# QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 s: V, {5 P( N) q

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7 o  ]; l5 E( k0 j& Q' V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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) i- E& d( k8 \6 D( _! J4 n智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; w/ @' \5 p3 l) _: J+ ~

  B- r! g. O$ @! R" U3 p( W軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.$ D7 C' r3 X/ z% }. n# ]

& s; c9 N5 a4 n; p打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ p* d! J8 m) C' |: `2 G- r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 q" m0 z6 S, o. I3 w+ B
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' S. @. |, p7 E- wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 j9 Z) r$ K% G+ F# L$ j( i* p他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......