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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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  M) X. o& C4 t6 x( o) u智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 k7 g$ V2 N" ~6 n+ b

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$ q' j+ j) I2 S* Q5 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., |8 C$ n2 B+ b
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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% w5 R+ x  i( o$ {& t% p' v1 IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 j9 p" r; S6 B* V& p& {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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3 F+ s# D9 [- D7 i. |軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# ^* P" \  }5 ?
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 s  x7 ]# f* a0 _" O; x, y4 D

. |. w; G+ s. l5 ]0 b6 ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) @; B( z7 Y  ]4 n( ]1 S7 S3 |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 T5 ~/ y9 Q2 i! c  `In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 V! l* m' A9 A/ [1 U
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! T2 T- X& l4 r5 z" S% c0 a

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) {4 E  d5 K: S) z+ U/ D

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......