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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! C0 @9 {9 Y9 r  D$ C2 U

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% w3 F  \6 ?5 y$ G4 [7 o# U& Z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 l- {! \' X& U+ v' r8 \0 b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 Q. z* F0 B: ~  A$ x3 D+ Q

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 j/ Q1 D3 R, `) ^

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. t$ r7 R" G+ C: ^: n) n智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* J- U. \4 w; t# S7 N# p! y
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 |/ E* w- ~: k, c4 o打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( T' }3 j+ d; L0 S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& R6 [4 O  H$ v6 {7 M1 r6 L5 cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) ?# b4 g) h7 S0 l; Y! k

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) e( A5 J6 L+ @5 e5 [" OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) X1 G/ k* s2 U( O" d- ]" c3 d. H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 S! F% |- _  a
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......