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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 c6 ^& A% L9 k4 \
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) c$ N" L1 l9 Q, B9 G% n- I
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 g) M* L! R( R  oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: @! W  K) f2 |( H0 V, A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 N9 d4 H3 s6 u$ _: C. M9 _" A

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0 \& Z( o3 j' x' _/ E0 q6 lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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) A( n: J* B1 k7 F0 L. E2 }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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; z$ m: Y& x# g) V' \其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus9 ~  L% `! J4 ^) n  U" H- [# p
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ h. Y3 g& Y/ y6 g( Q

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9 n0 p$ V: R! n* |2 Z1 u+ m1 X. O1 F打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 S8 `6 p. l# Q2 L& B  AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" Z) }" p$ R! z1 m, N$ q7 C* J
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% E7 w5 C9 s2 Y7 g7 \4 G8 i3 PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ w4 F; u4 a+ a  y) _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& b4 w" c) _+ H! N; s6 s
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

8 b/ f  V' e1 A* ?yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 t4 l3 s: Y6 j

4 H% K8 P, n+ Ayes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......