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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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% C; _  S. s5 J9 s- {7 |( UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 X, i5 _4 t! j! o4 F7 YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?( V+ p5 c6 {* p  t( y

8 F3 W4 H7 X* r0 B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ i* O$ L' r% s6 l

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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, M( s3 T$ W2 w, Nsee #22 Thus; {" F$ [; c5 f) g
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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) J8 ?$ }! L  @打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ e- F9 h; y% d$ K( [: c0 m+ I0 w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 ^% y, Q9 n. x& BIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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, k6 F7 H5 w% j. W3 p( m/ D他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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- k7 N: O! ]  ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ G2 M3 r6 G; I& G* L

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5 h; {* K- U4 B" l7 O3 ?7 ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 `4 a- g2 }* i4 N( h8 E2 o) @

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/ L2 o% j- ?8 w* x: y' H3 ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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' D2 R: S  d* |0 T+ `: p; l7 vyes, that's the point.

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