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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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1 j: M" A6 ]! X: Qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 B/ I5 @' G3 Q6 g
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 e6 i- a3 S+ X/ s6 {) N# v

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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: S1 u$ i2 H) {# Q+ l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:9 N0 g5 n# n  [5 e2 O0 m

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.8 Q. q  ^, V# q9 Q) _/ {* G

9 K: E1 I: R* i8 W1 ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: ]" r- y; i5 Q1 I4 U) C% U" I
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# p. w* E0 g. }5 p9 A2 _6 Z+ \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ P' w# c3 y# Q+ I9 _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......