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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 {7 n4 f% q0 K. ]$ Y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

8 b) i" b0 V* t3 obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 U  \% i, V' E6 E5 s# n

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2 U9 o1 w( `2 r1 o2 q7 h$ V- y1 `, QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 T( M" i  F& |% O6 M
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( I3 w2 [$ b9 s; G$ d! e! |; gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! }4 p9 j! t, ]; u! x& a

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why?
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# ]( x+ r. ?" m" `3 \& V4 X其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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4 w7 ^! t) p$ t# n! @- p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ I9 S2 T3 R7 O
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! h4 [2 F' @% J* m/ C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; ~9 ?- j; D" _& ~3 ~+ PIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 U+ m* M3 e6 V6 v3 X% J

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他比孔明更偉大

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. u; Q9 p6 }; o4 a- B5 ^% _( RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% G. p% Y% J# B+ d
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9 K% f4 Z4 C0 V" _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. U. w" j3 X0 ~* `) i0 [4 m0 s( |

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

7 s! L% q5 \. K+ tyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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7 n6 O- Y1 S, O5 myes, that's the point.

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