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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& e  u: Q7 S+ t/ j& X9 M4 ~

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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* x# m7 R7 o; p5 K* IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 i  L7 t# a" q+ o4 w, i
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 S/ d6 R# C, Z# g3 k* E* k
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; f/ b' O! ~- A+ K7 A% ?. T5 m0 Q+ YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 y7 l: {8 g% F
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 T3 g+ n! ]  w5 |
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ S8 {* e* F" _8 ]

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* Z9 |  V# c4 N" a' a  n) X- w8 |! K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 k) |' R; Q9 k$ }# G

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他比孔明更偉大

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! `4 ]7 U2 b$ c- t5 p' n6 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  L/ L* O, z/ X6 U/ i! K, D4 [
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+ u  E  q5 m  }. _! V# bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 ]' t" z' @- Z. S
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ P7 t' }" r7 |3 U. y- ]
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......