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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 r2 y5 I1 q( T2 T: X) ?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 z5 T; w# U2 TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 S# I. \4 r' \. k& i9 Y8 e1 N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ U) D. V' E8 T' v5 z
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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4 V$ c9 `; j9 e4 y- k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 P0 m( H) b2 ]9 A/ N* I

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 h+ M7 [2 b. i$ y2 `

. d# [- I2 P! l0 p  x# Y# X打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- d# _, Q2 n' {% _/ u& S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 x4 b$ o' C. H' @3 Y' Y4 eIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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8 i3 E: ^4 q. ^5 z/ r他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ [# F; V3 `, l1 `4 w
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$ u6 o3 i* @* A) b+ k6 EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* X7 X; m: v6 D" ?  G/ f) g3 U

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, s* T2 J' O, t' _. j. }8 [2 r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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+ T7 s4 I6 R8 P- C( L5 Wyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......