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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, e! r/ p1 n8 K' @; w
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 S+ R8 E. A" o. o5 _8 s

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5 C: _; ?' M8 O% R4 xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 h. O0 Y; G; p6 q  H+ nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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& ^& n* D( h7 c7 a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus, Q2 o! x' |+ C4 n5 ?  v

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) }1 R7 \, h4 U. n5 S- M7 _

; ^: `5 n! ~! j+ S- C# I9 y! k打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 B, |9 d$ U/ p; }" C# @
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 }6 m& f  C4 p& d+ {5 b

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他比孔明更偉大

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5 m4 Z# w* G! Y7 [& K" J5 W+ kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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0 v6 e8 B) h( u3 l2 S" F他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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8 M, O% j+ s5 E- A8 L  e7 yyes, that's the point.

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