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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& w! M# L  \  h' s
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 i, g, Z  q. {+ q! f$ HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:5 k; N6 k# Y1 Z5 i  Z1 W. p& N

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 J0 Y) S; u0 A. t其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& H+ s3 ~: o2 K1 g

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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2 B3 i$ Y% [1 @( |5 M2 q, U智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' z& ?2 \! h4 ?  d- W; Z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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! h  G7 I+ C1 _5 \+ S) LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ \( D- ]" U- k8 K
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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9 m' I4 M, f& e5 Z) ^$ U  ]他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 g5 @9 _# g' m) x' c/ M

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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$ e% t' J! l9 E- p. myes, that's the point.

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