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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 F9 x' L! E% p' j7 ]! l

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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# ?0 W, G, a: [but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ N8 \$ a; y- C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  H" q1 ?9 a/ b$ N8 B+ A& p+ k

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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4 `; }. b) ~& {9 ]6 D* g0 i2 M智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 n9 H, J& i- U7 Z( O! Q0 V

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 X3 h( O. w9 q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& |' v8 q$ S5 x* Y: z0 Z# a7 o
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- y3 \; |" e: N, JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 e: v" Q( U" i* B$ K; N
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 F+ W' F1 \3 l: o3 Z$ r( ]8 ^! _: E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ ~- G7 i5 _0 b2 v
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& l. m, h! x8 x/ s他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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