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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 d8 T; P8 v7 S% R2 P

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( U' L5 S0 ~% x6 l; P; aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 K1 L- Z" a( c5 X5 K( z7 g5 _
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7 H# x- k$ W2 @5 S5 I其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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1 u$ r2 w; |6 b' Z' o" L3 J1 B智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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0 ?& Q, Y( X4 u8 r4 ]( `) P' z1 S3 A軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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+ _' ^3 E) m4 Q3 v政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 f' e) T8 J1 j, S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 m5 J1 c6 L: T* J3 _In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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+ I3 e% `4 W5 o" n6 O* hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 {( \! H1 b6 n# c, C

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# @2 u1 {* r! cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. L; m1 E0 b- _& K0 P3 R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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% C$ n7 H) @4 T& a1 o他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......