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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% ^, U. }0 p/ W0 o! V8 \' n3 x( H

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ ]* H2 u6 u" R9 a# ~& P
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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% E" @& ~0 t# S' c' W5 p4 s  `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 I* |1 p5 X9 l* d1 S3 o

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! S. M4 r4 X; ?7 N$ J3 m+ ?

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; F, a8 t3 I: S8 ]$ ]% tsee #22 Thus
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+ h4 R' q$ B+ k* u# n" [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( ~$ ~% `1 F7 \2 F( z8 K4 p
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 N# T; v" G' o- T* ?9 I$ {2 d4 J
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& t% D- i$ s" P6 x: S1 k* N/ P) X
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 T, S" d: \1 X3 E/ ~7 \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! W3 ^% e9 R+ }; v% l

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7 s+ g2 }! w* LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 K4 M: ~0 }7 Q

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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