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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; z% Z1 E8 H: v( O+ p. O+ w
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% g# e6 o2 \' T) i2 @) K
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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2 a" S% R8 G7 Y! S/ S' ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 V7 u- y. b# j1 F& T4 h% e/ L) T

6 Z2 }+ n* P0 N+ ~8 A  Z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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, u: n% E7 W% x2 r/ k; j' h4 k& S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! j  f! f! w5 H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 E4 L1 v0 C% y  `In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 B  [# Y3 w+ H
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他比孔明更偉大

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& l8 s, m: c  {# F6 B0 I" U$ ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 W9 |5 P  b  g2 }4 K' k

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6 q/ e/ M. {+ G6 X: j, oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 e: ]) Y  @, |( W& q# R0 Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 j3 k" J0 c, M/ B
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yes, that's the point.

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