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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 I2 U2 s9 t0 F* m, i7 t
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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9 V% c% ?3 ]3 P) j0 s- K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" @3 C3 I) z. I
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5 P- G. ~6 d, g7 k+ k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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& p2 g* g/ S& M$ k! w* X8 v1 D打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% f2 h8 c/ d! x* `
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) |$ n. R- ]& ?. Y( b6 C* ^) QIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 j9 Z4 a1 B/ F: X! Y9 B
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他比孔明更偉大

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' ]% G) g- F$ d1 Y) x: nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* n- b# u0 B. \4 o) i3 o: R0 W

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9 l1 l: |& g) w7 y) f- w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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