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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 U+ t1 O- ]' @4 @, X& R

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# K& h8 ?$ N4 J' W8 D4 m
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 }: f0 [" ]6 @. L, s. P8 zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 r+ A# C+ m& Z7 g

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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- c5 l# n( l1 h其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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( f" {0 F% m' F. a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; J+ Y  q6 e. d9 K

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 L8 ~# O+ B5 g+ h6 s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% t4 }  |, T: ]# K: z. |8 ?4 L5 W/ |
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" p' c8 H& ~4 b- p, g
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1 y5 |: c6 p- ^$ o* i4 q+ cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% Z- N0 c. w( ]$ X9 Z8 M

' [, W+ _3 ]( u4 a% Y" A0 byes, that's the point.

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