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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 V: l( m  G1 ]( S+ H' |2 l7 l: K
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9 a9 S: P# I: {6 i7 P/ J, Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 ]5 |' w% ]2 y$ c6 e, o% G

" V* y7 d) }+ Y- l# @2 l4 I0 Lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! N5 @* E- I" A

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 {( G' g0 U- K, xwhy?
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# {8 r) {/ v9 M* y+ S6 n, h# a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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; W5 D8 l) ~. s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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, a. W% {& c" g6 N; O* O9 B" U: P" V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 {/ u- o* C- s  k

) X/ V7 F* E3 U/ o' N5 l軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) D% J3 Z# w% _% H6 Y

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 O( Z; T% d- n) {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! r1 o  S: |1 o& b3 W
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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  d: |' ]$ S+ p, L- ^! }他比孔明更偉大

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6 J# G! C2 @4 v0 Q, j4 c/ a6 i. \; ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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% P. }( }- O: e9 eAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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! ~; h; I1 \6 d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% K& ?8 B/ o" @2 i( X
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- j8 Q- [: e+ y6 q" t他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, J$ T+ S" ]9 Q* g9 h- o" I8 h

2 |( R7 A( a5 F2 Tyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......