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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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; w# R- h* x5 q8 I- H" Ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 B4 l1 e8 m8 m1 A; uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 j! R2 v* q9 O1 o2 i; ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% p# J0 j1 D2 K: I2 _5 A其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- @$ z' T. x* r( y: j% k

8 \. [/ {, N! p軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! z4 [: M1 q/ V5 c' Y/ ]

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0 ]9 s) B% f0 w' S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 o* O  s, P& c: k
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ R. ?; k0 W' r* A
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- l9 z/ p2 X% H3 m1 L% [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

* |/ U, @! p- O2 ~yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 A- a& {/ y8 x; V
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yes, that's the point.

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