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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 B; M( R) O9 }+ P3 z# M! W5 D

  M% [; e9 r; u2 n  E# g& Vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% o3 i' Q* u7 T& i5 t, G" {% ]+ j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  `- R$ s! S& P& W
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+ K  Z9 f  T0 V% m* cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 O0 @$ _* b1 ~8 X$ e4 D. o: s

* ~. L; N) V: v( X! H0 g軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; n; }6 O% {+ Q) w% i/ r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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7 D# A; e# ]( x9 z+ H$ D$ @, u他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; U2 X: n9 _9 p3 N
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& W8 k, R1 K6 m; ], }
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% f4 M% u6 {6 F
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/ Z! S7 Y4 D$ o' q* C% U. s他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ F) k9 F1 ?) w' Q9 E8 N) q
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yes, that's the point.

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