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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, j  n0 o0 k' v2 N4 X$ u  L
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) q6 V5 u; P1 Y+ T8 b

: X4 i: z. w: a8 L5 \' b* Mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 |0 C$ ?' ^5 k. h; V$ B0 v
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus5 \, E8 [; Q6 G- i1 R

4 x7 a0 R+ O+ F5 Z: ]  f! a+ h智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 ]' R" k: P$ `* X7 e

& h  o. [& v6 Y: S- M  E軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.$ O8 w( D2 @! q. \3 G7 f
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# O1 j; E. E$ ~1 L& \8 }+ w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 r9 v6 K3 R" q+ Z* M1 N& f' O
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 X+ ]5 p( G1 }# ]" `# j% U
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......