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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ l6 T- z. I+ t) P: m$ G
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# b& b) [  n6 H2 u" pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! \; U1 C- N& E& c- ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 \) A1 R: R1 v+ @% f+ u

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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* B" s, o! K$ \0 I4 T/ h- a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 z4 u5 `7 B8 i* j/ x

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus8 U8 Z, `4 T7 b% W, h* ?; g
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->8 a. r. S* R5 N: X
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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) F% K  T9 ^$ t- K; F! M$ F打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: `7 b- v* o& w; l; V9 ]
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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% ~$ X% w8 H/ s. z( nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:1 ^# N: z6 D4 h' Q+ S4 u% C1 l

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6 i  Q* w4 y) T* J7 L! y* T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" o- h% Q4 R; R' E1 d

+ @: t% g5 b! x/ Q; k6 y0 xyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......