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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 F% M0 v7 m. l0 Z9 m+ {
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 N& c1 v3 @* r5 y; d# t; z* s7 ^

! L7 ~+ i; F) [; E2 ?but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 b3 r2 ^0 }2 N+ C! o' [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ U. Q" i! x0 c) H3 y  j4 Q8 F* h

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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! Q6 ^7 k. F: O& @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  g% I$ L6 s9 A0 D

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see #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 _1 l5 G5 g' H# ~* h+ M
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) Z; b% u& M9 g9 U! Y5 ~: P

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4 d! b  T9 I1 p5 n# b2 x& M! EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( ~# l, q  w+ U

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 V; v% B( [7 O% W
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% Z- c  P1 R% B$ \

4 l! i4 w/ E) V5 u& iyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......