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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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# J  S. r7 p' h+ {/ e) ]3 u- @8 xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 i  l/ J5 B* a5 u9 s) J
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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; i8 A2 E5 M; h其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ I9 S% G- _5 [
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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$ C4 x+ l  u1 l! e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 C' W5 E  S1 P& l5 w, I
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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0 p  y' J# r) B. Z3 ]3 e他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* ?9 E0 w$ f! q& q+ B+ x7 |

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% [% H; p5 u2 O" e7 M$ p$ f  m. m

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! I' X7 L6 r$ N) j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......