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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. G2 @7 S3 P- H6 T+ r

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: E/ S  d2 I1 v) w) @1 m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! Q; U1 @2 E2 d  i

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; F9 h- F- C# \) Q* hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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, J' ^' H0 R# L2 msee #22 Thus
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: w6 H; S$ Y( S% H5 o* A+ e智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 @1 U; z6 M) j$ O' f
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ V0 x' P# w9 i

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* z$ X; R& R+ ~. g9 \6 F% {* a! fIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 `# f" m9 l2 Q. \

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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$ G1 r1 E) P2 D$ F" @: }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; [. N5 E  E& Y/ x. n! \$ C
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......