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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 D4 ?# x# A2 n' D
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 \  b: q& a7 y6 }: C' F( vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 Q. z. U) c7 c- _1 Y8 Z. {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 {2 z; Z1 O% N  B9 ~9 a" v" XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; X& |/ O" C. M; k

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 I' ?$ t$ p) r2 v+ c) Z$ Y$ }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." T$ m. X: s' v$ L' ?7 @' k9 z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- l( S0 i: X/ e5 ~/ d0 A0 c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, a: \7 W" M  n* D! {
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5 a) ^& R6 M' Q0 K9 R) s+ W他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 e3 G+ X: {8 P; u* F! e, I) z# f
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: k4 C# w1 f8 _; d/ x. L1 |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 Y, E2 A$ B; r' L" F. O% Y
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......