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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( _8 [5 l! U7 S3 [

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 Z1 E4 K5 n2 J2 [; Y; B- Fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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6 |+ w1 O) h0 U+ k3 V: {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus( _' E) e1 T+ \. [
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  a* d! i4 o, ?* P" YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ L( P* ^7 H9 T( x' C
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 n9 F! c! r0 E6 }! C

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# q9 r4 e; x1 O' R! nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; Z5 S/ w& Q+ E0 ~& m0 l

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 _* V  e* w2 J6 g. W8 i1 Q( u) X0 I
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......