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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. o! C3 |/ I3 w  R
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& Y' G! R+ o0 l& t% v% s) z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 d0 x  V! Z  l6 R( d% ]5 e1 T

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# Y  c8 U$ S5 U

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1 t& i6 |3 U+ J( }+ o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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( U9 U6 |+ V& l- v打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# c0 S5 |) P" p8 p/ [- M: |. i
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' S5 D. t+ Q1 E7 c/ D4 m+ l* {4 B6 R8 }
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 ~/ c' U! @9 e! q3 U) @

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8 r1 J' D: E) l; MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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* z2 s% U: |- l% Z# a& Q$ u他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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