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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. O5 }0 o$ l  \: h

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 \/ n5 t$ L8 ?, C5 wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 k+ f1 l- s4 \; {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. k- S" W8 n( V
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$ M, U( C- B/ _: iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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. W! k4 V/ ?/ x+ k2 C; g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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0 d: \. M5 S' [6 r& B, O) R2 W: Ssee #22 Thus
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1 G! U: K, v  R5 e智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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( m4 h3 E% j( C2 t8 {) p3 H6 E, y( j2 r打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# w" Z2 l9 z. r) b$ @2 _( a- M; a( |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 L% X8 y# K* t* J1 dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# B2 T' p5 e% \. g  ?
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, v' w5 k% W* v/ e" h- e, ~5 XAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: r: ?+ }  V8 Q* l; q/ n7 ~0 Q

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- n) W+ `% Y6 \# CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# T$ f* p% ~) [

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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# ?+ T9 B' b' Y陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......