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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 g; X) X. U5 i" e
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4 P6 Y1 b/ X/ i( D智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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- D2 Z! D7 ]9 l9 oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! x, K( Y; p- }9 i, q  S
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3 z  a: M. [) x2 v; P2 y& TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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1 v* T/ R* v- G2 m2 Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 T% _4 |, S$ M( }see #22 Thus7 j% v' R  V' G; ^- L. U
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 }  ~# A- h) N  w
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 q- s; i, c- G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 m6 K" m8 k1 g' o
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 v2 T& z# z, q2 J# W9 Z

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他比孔明更偉大

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0 O6 D, t2 c4 U2 X. K& U$ zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ l+ D/ h7 G; s8 i

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9 a# _! W! @" V2 }1 U: s$ _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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+ A' F1 X# ^% W! h' q$ Z, h他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" H! q& L6 u) O

  {8 h5 R$ n+ o, u8 Ryes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......