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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* _3 k0 y  o8 N2 l  b: c* a

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- c3 F3 k7 V8 U, ^2 G
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, z0 o3 Q: A7 \  o/ x5 `, sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: Y3 V8 A4 P4 f* C3 c7 f4 |

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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1 X) Z9 ^" w# l; N' v; y; z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  D9 X3 H+ O6 p8 G( l. ?. _

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus7 }6 \4 w% A' n: Q" X

$ g) T8 U7 V; Z! O& w1 w. _智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- v% `! h/ H0 @6 W; V
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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5 Y5 t+ ]  q6 C# C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, M9 q) ^* O& q6 ~3 f2 C5 c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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" `6 J4 v6 c6 O- q他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ d7 n7 u4 n, ?
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 m2 p2 [# v$ ]3 o" m$ A. b* ^8 P8 N5 j
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' X6 z0 K" P$ _0 c# k( K! y. Eyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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7 ]; i2 Z' P1 o/ l+ }1 Pyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......