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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 B1 h! e! q/ A2 R0 P. f
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# v" g9 \$ _0 O; l1 ^  \" i- O

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. a- a2 D% p% s) J! p. t

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 k. p' e# P4 h$ X
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why?
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8 @+ q$ |9 ?. h' m: U其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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2 k; E1 `2 N0 A' |- F$ m; P* a8 b智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 H2 V; q/ {/ |  t$ u

# ?+ R5 l; L3 R6 D' F( z/ S1 q1 h$ S軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& u2 x9 M7 {* w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 s5 i! m# i  j5 A- I

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% ^5 V" J) u* a  mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 d& O6 |1 e' h9 y( f* w
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......