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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 {# O" O: ^3 |

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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( n4 p5 |$ E) V$ s4 Vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 m' j) e2 n$ a% A& T( o7 C8 kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( k% |+ b' ]5 B# h0 @

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( n0 G0 u* {) jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# n( S9 ^$ z( ^% H. f) ^6 i* [
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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6 ]* l9 [' t" s& K$ v  f打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! ^/ M* e) [: p, h# A% }4 H+ N  m

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  c( p, }% S9 M9 NIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) I8 [- j. X2 P
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! D, Q" ]7 k3 F2 y2 I3 k6 I( @
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......