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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 Y( D2 X9 W' F3 b8 n) |8 r2 R

; @) \  d1 p! Y: f2 P1 w; ^but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) V! g/ }% x0 |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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. k" w6 O% m9 J6 t) W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  E1 a8 v" u6 H. @) N8 k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 ~0 j9 n% q$ P" B3 ], [see #22 Thus
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. t& V5 T+ ~# Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 p- |1 J* O/ Z& K9 t+ l7 c- _; x- R

! Y$ e) p: Y" u+ x" z/ i, d軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 y4 S( \% W3 R' F

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: S5 C, |5 W% \. T- `In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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  [5 p5 ^$ N0 H6 y" m他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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8 U$ w5 ~: Y% C8 w6 v, }* \/ qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- q6 U6 M: a4 i$ ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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- l0 U: A/ p. V2 o" Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 z8 l' a8 L0 S8 k5 }  n! T
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: H. e5 }& E8 {6 Q6 j$ D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

; j: l, o1 O5 d& S) F1 zyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' R2 ^* d( ]. D, A5 B

4 m: E9 v1 {. syes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......