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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 A/ G% m) ^9 F: F
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

  v4 D3 {% f$ v3 |but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. F  t! g. m0 ]! J. a5 f. iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  M9 l' R7 d( `) D% C

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 e) f1 v' Q( x- K+ L
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?6 W& Q* S! g% o. M+ y

6 f, h3 ~. T! _* G; V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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7 ~9 ]5 ?4 S) R8 `% g' e+ v; |. E8 F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 k2 W$ n) |$ F0 }5 U  Bsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ [; C4 M8 w" L8 Q4 C& Q$ _" ^
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維3 f5 w0 Z+ N$ C2 ^. u8 d
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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2 Q5 l& `' `. D) G1 G. D3 @5 l7 V# |打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ [3 a: N9 ]2 O; Z5 f9 |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ f& z. b3 A: P
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; v* u6 h/ c( N; B
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. X7 ~, l/ U, w& s! m+ x+ f- N5 f7 ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 f: _! y* L' {# |3 @. RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ f# \, B' Q7 B

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; A% m& n( {( ^: y+ m! ?1 c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......