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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% |- v9 s% ^9 D1 c) C$ c4 J. K

2 y" e1 i0 {) w1 U6 D( Gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 W9 \1 @2 l  i7 a/ @1 c: O$ LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ Z% G( z7 W' t5 r0 ~

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:5 [1 _+ |: C) O% J

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: q; R7 S. Z4 d  s7 W! ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus$ Y4 j4 R# `' P) I: h9 d6 m

0 \& l2 {( I1 M' D3 k; `# ~智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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: v2 q: w0 \. B軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.- U9 O, x% t% b) ~4 p
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." U6 C( Z5 E# s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 K8 Y3 ]( z8 z+ [In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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; g7 \4 }- l3 y4 |他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: V+ v* ^- u8 M" E
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! s, E. r% d, p( Y9 h
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......