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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 u/ W' w  ]: u, ]* t& X! V" s
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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" K* \/ H3 ~6 p5 p; U, v; t2 {& Nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" n& b; S& ?1 o* q$ U! K% s1 hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% a' |1 f6 a0 y& ?8 M; T
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 P  v; B! M% d2 A' ?/ n& G軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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6 @) c( ~) G* I打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# _+ s! E; t3 [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ h: `& {6 N& T+ S. ]In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# W/ H/ B5 @& D+ P. s/ j' y
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( [- {; L& I; [, SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 `5 ~& s  m* P' e+ ]  K

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6 T+ o; `/ C- D$ D8 E1 E, i$ l8 S$ H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......