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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) q  ~1 E6 V; a. ^
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( `( P+ S7 Z- I( k+ Dbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:5 x  Z0 ~& m2 v! c( ^: _  O
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 m/ H$ v7 j- b
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 i) [4 ?1 E. f3 B: m0 G

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) a  T( S/ H* L- Z  `軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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( O7 w1 w1 F$ a打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 K; K' p+ n$ U! K; c; pIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! R+ W  o- ]6 Q) G, X/ S

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他比孔明更偉大

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( t+ F! i4 o$ \8 Y% V  u7 I" @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 A: N/ B& j" y( v& iAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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0 V4 _$ w9 l# l, I3 j# N' n+ r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% H* Y, k: Q9 T' O

2 \; J0 I0 n0 S$ o  hyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......