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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 Z6 ~9 H- p' D! i4 q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( H8 Y" V) y' H! m- h7 n* j& v
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: i: Z7 l% R6 p
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" a0 p: }  `( A9 i0 vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  N6 _8 ?6 J8 F" a. b8 A軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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+ }: t; p, `2 I打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 @' A8 A  E8 |7 _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% W5 |0 `$ z$ F/ X/ ]2 Y! @
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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* k$ [- A5 E( M2 c% Q" bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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+ M; ?7 T) |$ v6 e* MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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' G% c7 d: G/ E. L3 }# [3 a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 _! ]% Z2 [* Q( R% ~
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% Y' Y# d" L$ N3 P* w$ y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ y+ z/ d6 o7 P: e! I3 Q$ J8 h: u3 I
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......