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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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; v- H9 j8 w  X! cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 m. ?, p+ x7 {; ?, y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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) z3 a, P. h6 n* _% aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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) c2 a2 k( f/ Y& @4 [# B2 h其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! W0 f! V) {8 ~9 r7 A& l# ]
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 v* s* i  r& t, S6 S

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 F3 Z" {6 u6 y: j
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" ^9 e! `7 g, O. z4 ?$ [

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' b0 Q7 d8 ?) ^1 ?3 r/ G9 F
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5 t  C* C6 ^& }  |1 dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# Q$ M7 S( A4 {7 ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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( J6 D, q: J8 g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 L7 t7 ]# Q0 y! d! ^3 J

' a3 ^$ |) @1 v& m9 byes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......