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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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$ x) X8 f1 Q& ~+ LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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, f; d; L6 R. j% s# }2 i% C+ c+ GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 D9 A, i' d3 C7 |3 u% T' C% M

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see #22 Thus8 A8 u& t" I; W, S* X2 Q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># V+ m- z! P: h% }8 t

* O: x/ ]9 v8 \7 T0 ]軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 O$ S# r  |7 t& K! t
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 s! [  |! P1 ~+ F- {

: B4 e# p! h) G: I9 ?- N4 e% t. ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* x% ^9 i  s( _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 r; L+ z# Q# H% z% A
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; q' e5 k$ R; k" A

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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% E3 U7 B! J, u" {/ X( }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 R. m/ [# y# G) a) S
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......