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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% K! X7 F4 H9 [; c7 f

! v( Q# v, g. }. |/ Tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- j  G( Q3 x' p8 C1 \, m# xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* h5 _  {% X, @5 i2 ?

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& \8 M  n7 c, |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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8 k- E; I! j& D8 \0 J8 c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus& L, }  g& r+ t2 W

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 I" ~7 @7 K0 B+ h

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' b7 q% c4 _7 i( i7 l* G/ L+ P; r1 T
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! s: x' ]7 Y( k3 [' [+ a. o( Z  X4 M) D

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他比孔明更偉大

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: V, q5 y3 i4 S+ n, s  [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, Q. i. b8 F" O0 }
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! o- w8 h# Y6 g
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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