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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:' [: l' y3 s, M  l# I
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 M. k6 r; _+ R: C; \2 [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# b2 }3 h0 U0 o
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 U% v- S& j3 g, B4 t& y3 |3 L0 ?( V5 P
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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' ]  r, L" C# [. d8 J3 m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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0 x. t- {8 S$ O/ S1 ^8 Z8 t其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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2 w  ~' Y1 v) L+ u/ u  s% M軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 N" D5 S" H- b$ e4 h
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 W0 x* L, E! f) K$ e5 o

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( Z! }5 t; }/ OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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! }, k# _5 G3 n& c8 l5 Q5 K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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