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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 w7 q8 [2 r0 R/ z, E& P3 {0 K

# ^: W7 E& l" h4 ^* J/ T3 kbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: a0 I, _2 |0 l6 ^% Z1 q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 K7 k# q3 n; K5 v$ R9 B+ Z. ~
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8 Y" H9 k* U" D  V. ]0 }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?/ _4 O. A  E4 R* U8 e: ~  M
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus2 V9 l$ C; a* }: D; i$ Q1 w
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ E5 o8 p% A$ x& F
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 s, W$ r: P' X
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 Q  h( R2 i4 u! j0 S# m; K, m
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' ?& B) u& R0 i& ~$ c- bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 P  M' k3 B* C1 [5 Y4 I他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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