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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 S4 j& U9 |# U8 q# I4 Y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- G/ D5 Y# W6 C8 w7 P& dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ a, {5 y; J( w8 v# w) e
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 W& o( B9 v6 `0 w. k' x/ v% `

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see #22 Thus$ ]/ d% I4 C2 B- ~

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 H" V7 o" ]* \& [6 Y
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ |: T) {  r5 p; L4 b
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( @1 K. _' {, ~) ~% c
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 w5 q! z8 g( p( _
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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( z( ?( N1 h( e+ s( n% x( _) Q3 ?他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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/ v. `7 X8 M3 `2 H6 Q; SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 V. z' U  l7 v3 z
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: D! _: C% K& Z. V: V) F
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4 i" r; s1 T( g% r& \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......