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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- t4 l$ i' h0 ~6 _0 L: R+ V
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( E9 k4 [% O4 @

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  e* m" y# y+ [0 c/ ?  ]# V) r, C; ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 S" a' w3 ^: B7 ]. G$ h

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- J! I3 ~& k$ ]3 n1 _1 X. e+ B  ~

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7 d% Z4 A0 x! c6 QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" q4 Z( v, A3 J5 u9 B. g

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$ R9 r+ b2 T9 A; y, @其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus9 i' z- u  i0 L& g, m  i5 _: Q6 I
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  s) z3 F& _' \1 b8 d
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! T: T4 O9 q% ^3 b* p* i$ ?, c) [
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.9 a6 h: S5 d" M  g- Z

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  u- }' B# C6 a8 r
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 L$ t2 M% }# ^
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 T: y7 J; b$ H6 C1 |

  [6 v; E, \5 ^+ t8 n/ Gyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......