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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ f; R6 j5 r7 S
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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$ B' f" [! v6 L/ p. xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 B, j5 W5 v- H) C1 i  z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  u% Y! h- t. o6 c. mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. v8 M3 K7 g( @) l: b4 q( L  M
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see #22 Thus
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 _2 Y7 Z* S1 m  N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% }: [' ~& `% ]1 f: J6 |) kIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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; n+ B3 p1 {# UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 s3 N0 T. _# Z) Z/ |& E- |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ m& \  S! A4 N) r, i

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......