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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 o9 i. D" p1 C: A' [. @

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& W8 ]( q. u8 k& {- bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' b+ V% h- f- S8 j2 R

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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/ t) T, U  B5 WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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8 F- A+ K. h9 s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, D- \+ Z5 z3 K) L

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) a3 W; o2 h7 B7 |0 o1 J其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus' }1 d$ V, p( l- J( `

/ `+ H! y5 O+ R- ^智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. H/ X) ?$ E4 q. G3 D% K
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 @0 b# u6 a* |6 W+ t' Q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 D0 i& b0 v9 T8 O5 W

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. z: z9 t7 N0 c7 N4 N/ cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

6 K1 `9 y  F% |( x" dyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. H$ i# |* h/ q; h( y

3 k+ W8 V3 P2 u$ c8 Nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......