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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ M3 C  O& {8 |. p3 Q# l
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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; t5 v6 c1 F( R" ^but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 R) ~+ O  E0 i! }; `) Z7 ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 `0 [  R! V: [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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& r- y  {" c4 E' d. |- rBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 j+ v: n, C# R" `# p

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 p4 E5 `1 R* C

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ _0 @' F% @# m* n# ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" c. U9 M, Z! H! N; ~; [
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2 h$ m: }& M3 \! G5 G1 fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 `! T1 R4 {0 T1 g6 D3 K; P# {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ ]0 V  M. s& q: G" p0 Q/ T
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......