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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  L, d$ _8 k- b7 R3 g

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 s0 B* \5 {) QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, S% m5 A' X5 n" P4 c! |) K$ w* d

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$ E4 k( X* g6 ~$ E- xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  }: H& D; F% X/ n- `* ~
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 J/ b  u' S2 ~, c1 s: U7 L: x
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 k) z) {$ N# U9 _/ n打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. L2 e& P6 d) ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 L1 I) T) x! w* S9 r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 k8 l6 f. E4 B% ~( ?- l8 X

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他比孔明更偉大

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# D* j, K8 s$ t9 H2 IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 l2 c$ X8 D2 O* o: A1 LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 U6 h, E7 v2 O9 p2 K

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$ F  T$ x8 m! `# M* J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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; Q! x3 X; k, b& Qyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......