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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. X0 Z. v0 f: A/ x

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- \, _/ q& G( j. A+ P# j

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% P2 S# u3 `! C0 ^8 p
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" d0 `' u4 n& L! [. i1 F+ Z' f8 [

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8 E; J2 @) F8 ]) H! c0 V7 e+ o6 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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; }2 w' T, o* n其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. F6 c1 o- A6 n* ~* L" ~# k% I

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ g; u+ J, k$ H- k, m

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; J, F, w- s/ ^; i% q9 k: T/ n3 Z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- ]. ^% Y- C: J3 j/ ~

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! A( B2 x% `6 \$ M2 w

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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" `0 I) N$ a; C: i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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