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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 [8 U/ V/ T8 g6 a" ^
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! ^% N# o  V7 a( WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' V1 G2 W: G, h! R1 [* x9 o! `& Q
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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, T; D+ @4 j$ Q: c  ~# h其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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" C- I  ^3 g  J/ g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 F4 j- @% p3 N4 I2 ~* Z  c# M智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! {8 F6 S! U3 z( p/ m6 n- U* n

' E! K2 T% e8 W# m  R1 R) n/ ?軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 }+ Y' q8 n' K; Z9 U& ^! N

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) o, C8 r: ]1 j1 x, t7 p1 I+ w打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! ~9 g' K- M; A: ]/ B. X
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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9 V3 p/ z2 K& G, @6 HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 y1 D( n6 F5 Y& P; E. r7 o( E; MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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, E1 \5 i/ q& a& W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# b. y8 o7 k0 L. x' G6 U
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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