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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ @, K) n, m- L+ m! B7 u
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 _" Q: w4 k7 a; t$ _9 cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 h+ S3 d2 ]( X+ t

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. \6 X. `. J1 x# ?5 a! j; NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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  {6 }# Q& e( q: d' mwhy?
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! V; L6 G6 S% [  f: f* v! D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" I! j9 r% Z/ ]

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% X2 t8 s% |  h" n

# b. }$ f. j6 U) b. v; H打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" N+ D, s! {& V6 \& C
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: B. A% {+ X8 f
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 H) ~% `) s1 u5 H* h- t6 V* y/ M) k

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! D) e7 X7 ], L+ y6 [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 _3 i" B' H: j" [8 z$ d# F4 o
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6 i( b' Z! a% R: k) W9 ~# j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 d- }+ _5 T7 l: p; |" j4 W* M5 ^

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