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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( @7 a0 x. w* D4 ^

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* G4 d7 \1 C' E1 L2 W- C

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' d  s3 n$ J6 L( }! _: a9 Q' B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: W: F5 d0 W0 P& A
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( }$ g/ U$ `, o9 M# o6 ?! e! `8 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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1 W6 b5 W/ F9 O1 T8 b0 W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ ]. O" s* N9 \
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 H, g# q" v7 C* n; C4 [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 }, q0 U" r* @  e7 n2 N
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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1 V8 X) N3 t: N/ m他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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* X, z$ H$ c$ F- n3 X6 {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 C3 M- N1 S* C. i5 \
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7 U  \4 o9 n* X7 KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ S, x- s- i; s! k0 H1 e) H

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

- z& m3 B8 k) ^- ~1 H; xyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 O- S- I% G7 r# ~4 g! c* U# ]

; Y, `1 n- ^* r2 k( nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......