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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; h9 k0 Z, e, ~) x' }6 y3 B
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 |. C8 R% ^# Q, Q
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus" H! P; q  r' |" t

2 {$ L- g, X. Y( s" w* s, f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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3 X0 I3 F. M( u8 V; b8 I$ G1 Y1 W3 K軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 l2 n! M- Y4 d6 y/ i+ O
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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3 ~: Q3 l/ I% o( F6 m' k+ d$ F# e( y打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 t  ^# ~2 {* u1 q( DIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! @( J9 c0 K1 ^8 Y# P4 @
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 m; ?2 k# x0 l7 {. y

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......