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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ j) f2 n( }% T4 M
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 k; F& b4 O$ F* D: V) f
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 L, A' |. Q' E( Z! Z0 `- KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% N! M5 @( l  b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; {" W: O$ I4 k3 H7 \# b
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7 M; I' ?& |; \7 d  KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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3 w' k) a6 |* [! C; l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 z  Z0 H: t; H* E( W2 m
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus( z' E) i  i1 Q$ G2 t0 e2 l9 c
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 h$ u. q2 d2 q) h& c
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; H4 B( L9 Q" o

. \( M( [* T' K, \; n5 a政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.! i0 }1 C, y+ Z) y: w2 ]+ O( x
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., H% ^, n0 s) I1 T) W5 }

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- ^' J: ~  i; z% W! p, ^0 rIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; _+ i7 @3 [3 n" d/ F
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# d$ }. m: f! c. c5 Q' {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" N- V6 Y! z5 k, @* n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 r1 x' G' C3 d2 i) ~1 g& ]& g

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9 |- I& Q4 j  e3 B+ l; M: {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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* f# [* H2 ^# d- [) h$ |) Iyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......