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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: g* ?5 T# D/ L% t1 y! a+ }

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' T4 a; j+ `. u$ {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮." o2 i* H; W! d

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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+ i9 P# d% k4 H( mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ y8 B2 `' p" X' i9 X! Q: B; c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* ~- h7 K" j6 l" s8 O: j

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; Q( k& ~$ Z1 m9 v; h打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 L/ ~6 g. I) lIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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4 }; b. D2 @; {0 c1 X: G他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# K8 k; n1 v9 J: Y
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# s) p- k9 _, w6 @! J( C* S

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7 z: a- i5 p) e' t2 y% \) c( H- K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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