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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 P, b: ]* S5 e4 F
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 I3 b6 A+ t+ `0 y; I) _0 TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 J  e! R1 c2 N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. V" J6 g3 a* W7 _. A  b
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1 o/ O0 r8 c- D, i$ _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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' e$ x' o3 ?5 M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus  w; u) \1 }. p
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 l/ a: {% M. C7 L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 @: u4 E. M7 mIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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; L5 r5 T& A) A5 k+ m& K! V他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ y2 b! D, }# K" D% d3 L7 m/ h7 a6 Q9 O
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他比孔明更偉大

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1 g! l- t7 \' J: GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, x. _4 q; W# R! y- o; M( _+ VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ h* o4 K$ }4 S* M( n  X5 \

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

: t/ g# a5 ~  dyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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