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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# c% @! I1 j3 ?9 R

+ t" ^1 t* x8 W" }4 k" [8 {but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 u9 {+ o  K  E( }+ I% _/ p# G
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0 U1 ]# }, M. }4 o0 V! t5 cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! I4 K- t* u# l( `! S+ l1 X3 w1 [& ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus: ^( @8 _( Q, |% D+ E. U
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  {8 B# |6 B2 v/ ^
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# i1 ~' ~! @! W. gIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, i  P2 Z, K' P* [+ A! ~; p
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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7 @+ ^; ^$ z" OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: a# }( R7 T6 C) p2 g+ x% x他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* T- f; f8 ~1 C% e, k7 ]

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: s; y) Q0 `, v& H& r" N2 T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......