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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ }2 B* e+ f& j0 l8 B( e) a1 M

, A5 n' P! b7 l# Z* Z! d% C; g8 Vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ a" C/ [) b8 Z
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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; U0 ?, q* t. D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! X' e3 {3 `% S- o

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see #22 Thus) s- J# r+ K. G7 k9 B  y

! N; Q; `4 m: o. M! b+ o6 x% k3 p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: `$ A6 |$ N% ^% ]5 q6 d8 m8 X9 T& ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: z) W3 h/ q: q2 \8 rIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 V. `; F1 Z& n% y! @
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他比孔明更偉大

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$ o0 F% K3 ^* A5 @5 w& s, H( `4 L2 ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 [) d6 l! E6 u( W1 ^1 Q$ [! _0 c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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