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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 x* `& ^; `/ T- f) V. s

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: y7 K1 Z: i! i* S3 L; z

8 g& ]6 i* M+ _, \' [7 p/ i8 Abut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( G; F5 c1 }8 }, O2 T1 h) mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( T4 k0 d% ?& {6 t6 ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& i9 g3 @. _$ o* j

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7 C) i& x. L; R( A7 E- sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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6 _! r, t  p# q5 e8 Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  B; O* Q. J/ t; ~/ P
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. m4 F4 c4 s) ]: I- B' Q& S4 K
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$ e0 H# N+ l" z1 WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 G8 f5 y! _) A
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2 m/ e0 w( c3 Y# |2 v2 N7 qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  y; `# M1 V0 p% D
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8 T8 U8 z6 O9 `: w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 U  L  d3 X$ r# [+ \6 o4 h
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yes, that's the point.

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