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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, U0 ]6 P. z# M3 \5 [, c* i
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 f7 t2 v4 ]( z- N! y1 }$ jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 X; b5 }9 b0 _; W- T
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 ^* z0 I; f) c5 z7 K
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ |! J' U2 D. Z" c

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; n7 X5 ~0 R; h3 R1 u

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 p6 C) g1 K& u$ U& K3 H' E

$ n* D' A( \3 m  C- |2 z. ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 V! m# x+ O6 y. ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  d7 {) B! M1 gIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! \% f! `$ D  E! ~8 j) t( J

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 Q7 K5 k- E9 |% q' c
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ h* `' X$ O! F$ E2 ~
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......