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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& f1 o7 e) r/ U2 j

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! \$ E1 Y- S$ ~  O2 w- o

8 n/ V+ n# `: D- w( p% D/ Hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 Q# e& j; Q5 Z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" b1 K1 u+ Q  f9 ~. C+ Q
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% _( Z" E( d  d1 K: @. _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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; i0 ~& ]* j; O1 K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. k( K+ w, j9 t

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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! }- H$ {6 j. |8 }- Q- `智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6 e, M$ N0 R1 p( V2 _/ ^

0 ]& d+ Q+ f! j! ~7 m) T$ T軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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5 K0 |  f/ P3 u  e政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 M! Z* Z" l4 m# B

1 J' R; d1 b: L0 K# d打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ J1 ^# ?  O& S, X: ?
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 Y& J5 p( O: b2 D0 u
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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4 b% x; g2 O) E) y6 S& H5 H" b( h6 N他比孔明更偉大

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+ C% |2 N9 q2 S; ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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8 a, ?6 Z, S! \6 c. kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ Y4 S$ v% @& s9 K: E, _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 u7 n5 W. ^- Y* V  W  @

2 [. y5 \4 _) X- P- Q6 g) }6 Hyes, that's the point.

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( i- [5 L" i7 y) o; o陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......