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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: P  _  k" W& _/ y( q" n& v4 F

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

: `, g5 I, n: p0 h$ U7 c5 Ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 y, X7 {; D7 G$ ]; p. R
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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  |: n/ H( u. u4 P( M7 f/ l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 ?; D6 Y- t$ B& l* c2 E7 Q' R; Q
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ H+ n; g: g: G, [5 _# j3 A# o& f2 X

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" G8 j- Z( o' f7 q8 a9 SIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) V2 D2 K! @6 m. ?& q1 U
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他比孔明更偉大

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$ R% u, R- `; F4 d& r1 gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

4 d1 F$ G! s! n- Q9 s& Cyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! z, b3 [& A4 K( J# b( h( |
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......