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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! T& }; u2 p% HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ G' k- {# k5 J
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 O8 J6 q5 z2 m) T
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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( e* \& A( F# ?9 o3 b7 _7 y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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0 {% W+ B; ^2 ]1 n! D軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" \, \) m4 q6 j

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ T3 X) ?5 {+ Q  V0 V( u
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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5 X: L8 A$ T+ U7 a" P+ i# s他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 R0 H) c! f, w' [' o
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. ]5 t' t* i! p5 d. k2 ^

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( w4 w% k6 E" Z. h2 yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......