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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ g4 M- u8 b( i; o' p
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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( m# B' R5 w% i: I3 b+ n2 l5 nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 N1 z2 q7 g' Y8 {6 M4 A7 |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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" L$ s' I9 Z  e9 D+ i5 }% w* s% k# [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?$ }$ {, {8 J) |! v
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 U$ m7 x+ R) i- n. e

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why?
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$ j2 E: g+ j1 T( \+ }# a7 a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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4 {5 K+ C$ P: J& ]( J0 q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  l* O* y# I6 G+ {0 f
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 {% a) Y; k$ l

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 o4 g, ?  J/ m( x( }8 n$ D( `In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 c) e% b! M$ d: T: K
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* I* _0 c2 a  rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% P, y, P3 J/ [" L

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2 U. a" F2 {/ M+ ^& U; R$ L% FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" S8 m4 ?: l$ h! p他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 Y- J8 U. ]3 }* `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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( i- E5 p2 h" h& Iyes, that's the point.

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" \. V* `/ a4 h+ F8 ?陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......