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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 t2 a2 b3 _1 e& i6 N' h

, q5 X& x) u; H4 R4 ~/ Z) X8 Qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, d$ [& I; l" V8 y& a$ b9 hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 g" U6 D0 H; c, A

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( R1 V8 b8 ]9 u  y0 w
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9 `8 q8 A8 N7 @% y4 M* hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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- k; Q, n  R1 ~  ], g* m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: H$ d8 P% E6 g6 C9 z2 h! Y
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ d" H% ~  _% y7 H1 FIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 X; W+ @# y4 p& b" [  s& f6 P
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 r4 ?( L  T" M/ S4 }  ^
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. c( N! l# e* J+ K* gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: j) A: I' `  z) b他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 G; J$ F" M* `  b. ?- p5 }1 M1 U
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% ?- I3 y/ w0 f

$ \+ u3 N+ z2 Q/ V+ x- T+ wyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......