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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# u$ ?% }9 X6 v/ J6 c# Q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 _0 U( q- m$ h( s7 _4 |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ l& E( k2 v! S! \9 N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' c5 [% D' }% E0 `1 A5 v, X5 sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( _! a8 o6 [( b$ B1 _
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why?
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+ {% ~: ?- x0 \$ T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' T) C3 ^7 C/ ~% A1 l. A- v. B
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 w0 P0 ~. _& x& H
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  V. E; P% p3 _0 ?5 G; Y% E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# Z6 b1 }5 ?5 K/ O
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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5 x) y% R) h  p0 ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. n" i. K1 J. w+ S6 L
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ Q: B# f  N# T$ e2 j: y$ i( r

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3 w1 X" j$ a! Y* z, b& j) [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% m( g5 X% I" {7 Y6 V3 V

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......