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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" N6 d  _9 Z. h/ ?7 y5 o+ Q* _, @; P

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8 j1 F" U$ {, f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( j: H  a' F/ y- o4 k1 {
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  j$ L6 {, b" s6 S; F" RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ b# v0 s) ~" U8 x$ f# H0 u1 r, o
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:5 P1 X3 ?0 c) Z( ]
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3 g3 S  {. s7 |$ k% A4 z: D7 BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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9 {; w7 h! @, l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! n1 I! d, F' c9 A7 ^

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus: t# S$ Y+ K/ W7 g1 ~; c4 c

! R. a2 K: K" ^6 C9 `( Z% @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ Z% B2 c+ l# `0 X$ U6 g
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 F" ^, I2 B) B! n( q$ ]( e
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ ^8 h0 [# V! W

, `' i+ ^/ x: p打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." n. G* Z( R3 w% |4 n6 N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- P  l* D- [4 u2 g6 o4 GIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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$ l" _1 O) N( |) b% V" @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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. v- G# m9 {/ TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' z$ K0 n9 T* s3 A5 ~# q
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......