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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 N: ~0 \5 c9 M+ _: [% ]' n+ j
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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2 Q& M( O% j5 X+ Sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ l5 l: g7 F. {7 \) x
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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4 @& D/ G& Z& x2 {/ }# z4 q. m% h其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus6 X+ F) [; j8 O

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.! T5 D" r) V- o% c5 b. z% H
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 n. w* ~8 i( a3 ^% E& ^6 ?+ eIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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0 x3 a! H8 Q( g, R/ w+ P- qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" \# |2 P: k  i* E1 R4 m% X" S. ?

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" |6 O1 H0 `7 ^" ~4 X) P( d1 w. {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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6 ^. t5 G8 r% w0 U) t' T$ c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ Q) D, k0 m; m: Y

0 X/ A" C! Q& Y: f  oyes, that's the point.

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