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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. X2 D5 w7 P9 K7 T% E$ U# k

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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, i. Q0 h, I" r% k- h( e1 J, _+ g. b) Mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 r1 y! h6 V. E. S) T- E0 i2 E

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7 L( G$ l4 |9 m& C& h0 \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# f4 M. \8 V9 i4 l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 O% f. P7 U1 m' p. l

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why?
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see #22 Thus
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5 X% G! |. K) A# ^5 {$ M5 X智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 _3 ^& ]. R% r
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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6 [0 U4 R  i+ Q, Q- A政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& Z) u$ }, D$ ^7 _9 z* n4 CIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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7 z9 @: @0 k, HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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# D4 F+ E3 n: y, K) ?# l1 |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ h3 @7 o( A; k) @6 f他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: X- d: ]8 z, R0 l5 w

5 U/ O. F" b5 pyes, that's the point.

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