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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& ?0 ^- U; y$ i. o

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( r7 m2 N; f2 K/ Q' W+ y) _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ |( g( L6 C3 \( p" I% Q* ~, t- H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' Z7 D# J& c- u& K- p8 C0 |

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5 o% z8 j2 w# H/ K% O7 }+ T! jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" A( ]) p6 u, S. q8 F$ e4 O
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why?
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( u; j6 N/ i/ y3 ]" |1 g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 b, u8 E' J; u. J8 b
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% |5 w4 K) q  E) y% b9 d

# L) ?# M0 ]3 Q& N5 t打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." O! r# a1 y' X
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ j& j5 r9 Q" j+ @( F4 I! |& wIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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' t2 n1 F( }, w2 z+ A* X, m5 J5 M' wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 F6 o6 G6 Y8 U2 iAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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2 q) e5 B; @: p6 ]' X0 }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......