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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 ]8 J, k4 k, f

$ _+ E; ~$ U5 H, u, n, p- zbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* J- l, M8 w! |+ _3 ~# [5 y! ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* m# w5 [, a) @. x  A; r

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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8 c1 W. l" s" T, D% J其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus3 T( F  z5 k. @# b

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& `  v. c' i6 M& Q# B' [軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, C- S. G5 i0 s3 C5 O, f
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ q6 Y5 E' }+ _7 M& B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  g$ w4 t6 W6 A6 Y( `1 @In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 o% L" c' D$ m3 F

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; `9 G, I; a. J! @他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 Q( i+ M- z! l, _  W; i2 s

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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* `8 p5 C! k! U# d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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0 Z: l" O1 _* Q$ n1 Z1 `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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3 S, V9 _' ?2 ]+ t/ {9 P! Fyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......