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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! Z8 o3 M/ _: o$ i. k

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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0 O0 ]/ T; p- W+ T) |+ Ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# T& J2 o* k; s" \" O# G  [  c* j+ sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 J$ l5 Z, n1 B) }# n

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/ O* e& z; d1 i0 L) d( UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 q% P! W! m% e$ [) x

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why?/ X+ ^& I  i% d/ G7 E) u5 A

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see #22 Thus. N5 }* D/ A! w9 S1 [, X
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& S3 W$ H8 R! P% ~. K9 W2 ?

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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' t8 F) N; i& w/ x0 u1 ~! p打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. s5 [2 q1 c& o$ A5 }8 s' pIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% Q3 I7 n; ~' z" R6 T4 B8 Z" L
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! D4 N) m; V5 TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; ?& r4 z! U2 b; x4 @6 `/ ~
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5 Z: z  p4 a" @. h3 J5 @( ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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