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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; F* P& `- X& _- F) r
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
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( p: n  x& V- u& A+ wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 K4 {" S9 _; `) V5 @
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! A  G7 K( d4 K" b- E+ g0 n4 m9 F' I

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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) h5 M, i" I: h# S. `$ T其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; c7 o/ Y9 ~  b' C, z* T

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3 e" L2 j4 g# L0 P* V打:姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
網上身份誰不『機密』?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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9 z* Y/ [+ }9 Y: S% H& z[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 g# s; {* K1 g# X+ o, Z7 a4 m- t( }* ?# [
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 x7 i% L* c! N0 C4 Q

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 J$ z. Q( ?* V4 X0 V# ~, |

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! y* `: @& ~/ cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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% O2 j% a5 C7 J, w# ]% Z他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
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yes, that's the point.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
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