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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 l  C1 y) k9 ^% ^  \& p
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 \! h; L: I, p" q

: z4 b' I7 e* H% G) g7 x/ rbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% _  ^/ F* g9 G
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0 ?" X7 {! @( L4 h6 \; {; hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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1 |. }8 r  X) x% c7 m* }$ V' C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' |  Q3 y  l0 B

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why?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ \8 K* P* Y( k5 z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" `/ N; U6 D8 hIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 M7 P. f# v' L/ d

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 V% m: k7 n( ]5 b& U1 \

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" n# ]9 W1 \- v( l& J) {) @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  Z# `6 S# n; n6 ~9 U% |# l$ b

. P9 L/ F# j$ Z! f. w$ G1 C9 qyes, that's the point.

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