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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' {# ?, A; i2 A! J; O4 t

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, U. S  n$ R* z7 t' F2 d

, J6 z3 q9 ~! ?" U' d1 u2 @but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 i- @' }, Z' [1 w( @& K2 ]

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, S2 \# l6 u8 d, B! j$ ^; V( J
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, D6 \- ^( z# y% U; O& L1 F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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% {& A- x3 G' R4 H! {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." g! e+ {8 Y+ H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" a2 O/ @0 D( l/ b: wIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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2 i+ {. F. i: a( f( i1 EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 e; B  [( l- H2 n/ `( }. Z

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( L# _/ s' V/ K; T5 z5 zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......