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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ ~1 _2 C) {2 [$ C( S; P* C$ U

, O; [) {) z; H, Y2 W* f/ N  ?but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) c2 C% \& x! o4 x* D1 k. S/ ~$ y

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# r8 f+ [& p" ]: x& MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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8 H+ D" m: s  G/ G. _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( p. I" K1 i' y! e# m( S; I
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ |7 Y8 O+ E) _$ p
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 o  O& p: B- ?7 j打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: N1 c. n+ Z4 J4 z  O" UIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( Z4 E1 ^" h0 c4 {9 x
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  P3 k; @. p" B7 K$ J2 D2 I; Z. hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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0 Z2 V* ~/ w/ q! \- X他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) x8 \3 |5 j! }- K
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 i! C" ]* x0 D* F4 N+ G  e
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yes, that's the point.

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