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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 w9 u  o/ x% b  @% E+ o) }) M1 E

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 x, E4 x& q. l, Ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" Y3 X  R: i1 x8 UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" f, x& k1 ^2 M5 F+ a9 q

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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+ L" ]( C4 v7 ]7 z$ S( o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- Z7 U. d: p+ M1 Y

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus; ?4 e8 Z1 R: v8 E, N
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ N) ?6 K) G- z6 }0 s9 Z5 K
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維3 p) ?2 M8 [1 Y0 D6 z6 _) i

2 ?8 S. {7 Z: l4 G" K0 v; ]政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.! K  a  \) {2 M7 i; E

4 Q5 g6 E/ G. {4 ^; K6 ?( h3 I打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 p$ a, w/ ~4 b# f, GIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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7 s( N( e' N- \( ~他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! [- h0 F( |  e, x$ g! K& ?4 E7 `# `- Y

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他比孔明更偉大

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3 E' V4 o0 Y. ?# T4 o0 V0 q: e9 j' uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 f$ z: ?9 k, l/ V6 M
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. M$ h# \! k) J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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8 W7 W3 O6 J8 d' u5 [. U( D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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% }1 Z* i- U- R) ryes, that's the point.

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2 a  t) b  J& }/ R2 n( V陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......