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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, v$ d. q/ n& d& Q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ Z, w( \& r. x" q4 H9 q2 L: W

+ U  o1 y) T( T3 @6 e8 [/ m& Qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* d( @1 K* \" F( l$ b* |5 O

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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" h0 s: Z( Q& |. FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" v  {  P1 [; j7 @- R! J! A

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus, I( K; F9 u8 X% v0 i: V( e2 I

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) T8 K  c4 A  W- N6 j5 ?

: u) F* J  h' M- z- Z8 ~# [* E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( x6 b6 J, O/ ?( y/ i
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 c* c% Y& h# c, U3 G; u
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ a& B6 z3 M% h3 j6 a3 O

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 z- t; k6 Y) m; @5 ~% h

: {5 B: {' Q5 D8 L2 s. N6 Xyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......