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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  K$ [. A& B2 ]2 v

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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6 L* f; V& P2 F  c. [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 @- |+ s( r' s2 O+ l+ s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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6 z5 K' V  Z5 u/ \6 K8 a2 lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% g) A3 O3 J, R- p

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2 m, L1 A: P. b9 a: Y" Osee #22 Thus
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( a2 L) |2 o* d" J& D打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." j: K9 G, R, T, E7 Z) J; T( i/ F) l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% V* H: N( h  H% ^* i: ~. ]
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

: E" N/ e* R1 L3 Gyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......