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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& W+ e4 i3 k* y- X8 O
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 y' t* c4 O1 zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% ~* v  x( F# R+ w& O5 ?

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 _/ [0 T7 `9 _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! ?6 O4 ]5 _1 y% A' O" t# \6 ?  e
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  q1 {2 a) [! I' ?see #22 Thus( H! j: i* |: t% e
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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, {9 h/ b6 `( q+ c3 p: W* G軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維: `. z; m: V8 F( `+ P
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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# s+ Z8 J0 M+ L9 u, X打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 j! g2 @6 Q8 p8 j
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ F' ]- \* u/ ~; g4 ?3 G. D7 dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ w- S: W( X# B, o6 \
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6 r, f/ y" j4 [$ K, y5 ]; w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: R( K4 w% _, m4 y- ?5 Q& ^: N
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......