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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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* n5 h: a6 D4 t* b0 n: Obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. C6 V5 P% L7 gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 j  j- w3 \" U3 `8 J" K8 W5 O

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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3 A: @% [) u5 E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 X( q) s' N5 g
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus( J: e4 V8 q1 f5 Y5 f* h* Y

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# ^7 i+ A, b" V2 V: U0 b1 m4 Z1 |軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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0 P/ ?$ c! M# A  N4 Y. f打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 h4 y% j4 f* [7 u8 `$ G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 E7 `) _/ E* J% a4 T5 y
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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0 l  I: S' ~! Y8 QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......