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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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3 a% [) E0 x7 I! |6 @3 m& a: c智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 L& c( t) T; C2 D+ @
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 b2 ~4 U: ?4 S  I4 BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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$ @' @" p, I- W  j0 d, h  y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus, P5 c, R- Q1 F6 L. {( o/ O

+ }) g7 F, D& n# Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 S  g* x* v, R; L6 S! \4 q
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, {; c* n3 ^% N: y6 s. }
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ W; W; B8 Z2 O8 w: J! e7 @) J% \

8 f5 A9 f" H8 w! }( F" o打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* M9 R/ Y2 A: b
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 S5 [7 K! k% T7 `! r! a
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4 X+ s% e  b/ J& J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 Z& L) S1 o; Y* i$ C. Wyes, that's the point.

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