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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' ^' t3 L* X. D- K3 V# a) L1 A
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 L/ ?4 u/ h; m3 M. K/ i8 Y

0 x$ D5 X$ O4 @* z$ y4 k  \but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 T3 p) O% o  iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ U6 H  B- c* D! o3 ~9 k
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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% ]; I) n! q% y2 @why?
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/ n! \% s* G% i9 t其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus& ~" c1 i; V  e# W
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* ~; q6 o8 B% W

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" h+ D) G. P7 Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: d) P* T+ G/ s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 c4 U5 r/ \  `$ `5 c" [0 v" ~In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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1 Q8 Q) q; r8 O* T6 R/ K* p( G. d% K% b他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  h9 q; R: E. b) ~& I3 C7 A3 a

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, U( H/ |7 T+ ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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1 y) P# P1 x3 O2 fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 u2 Q9 s4 ^; X' f/ t% ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 A9 Q8 y, B& Q& C0 B9 s

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7 I+ B  Q- S' @: u) j; J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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3 ]0 c4 X  e( M& k: K' Pyes, that's the point.

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