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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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1 a0 a- ]6 y( R( D6 A# R智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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. o$ Z8 q$ j) q5 ~but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 z/ H6 ^+ z4 C' d& d5 q# xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& Y2 r9 h! }; h  ~+ X' t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 @; z  M; n9 aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& d" h) O" i( O
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why?
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. y" e# o6 L! ^' a+ K5 i& l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 ?( H4 s# J4 G
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; f2 }- @1 z3 V4 ^

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 I2 X9 _; t8 W& v. Y0 \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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7 W+ @& i& }1 {8 j$ wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ U) x7 B3 i2 ~# _7 o

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 `9 V8 M* C( Y9 y6 n
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2 W9 z9 ^1 S& r/ M( O6 C" x9 g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' r+ q  t+ _6 _0 y2 t; f# {
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......