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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( v: n6 ~1 B/ @$ [! v' [
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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# X: R! R/ W9 q0 V9 Y: W! obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 f8 }: t4 x; i8 n) G4 k
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ B( R: c2 U$ m; d5 U( Y* M' \+ ]

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' l% C% m& l" {! c* {9 [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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+ V3 W; ?: M4 U3 y8 U5 i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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$ q6 U1 z2 h8 q* m1 dsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; P  C0 G( q" h# j  {5 g

: K( o* K9 {+ F$ Q: L! C" ^8 S' T軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 n, n  `3 D! n; J" M
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 H, N  k0 d. D) |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" V1 {6 z; ?! ~6 ]7 j2 s3 f; g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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: I6 C# X2 W9 W) G2 n, V/ r9 AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 F* @5 v) q0 L; U( U% A5 d

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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* G" K: v/ f! j& X5 {7 G* i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ ^4 G$ U# S" c. ?- g+ l+ F; S

" x6 b! D* o$ _yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......