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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 s$ X! O# d7 ~0 _# G. V1 S/ r2 w

6 ^; Y" h* v- Y$ C# `  f  g, T7 [but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 d5 ~; q" I' r! R& ?- gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 M2 w+ N8 v( l# m) S& ?& {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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& V- T- H$ `5 T* s/ r3 wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& V, Z' A6 v: G3 I

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 p. G! M& f' I% ?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 H9 g7 Y. ?3 ?4 }9 y" M* m
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% s% P  f1 S- J% k% ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' E) {8 v* G* D$ l
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 G6 d5 H8 h% R( A$ Q" y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 }$ z* z; |1 R
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......