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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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. _7 p% E' P# d" v" S2 A' J4 X, {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* v# z8 n; i2 w1 z* c
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 O" z: c9 h, @: O' O8 J2 R- \$ YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 U* `; ?6 t! g/ j+ j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus- D( t* G3 h) I2 H' J

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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9 I8 p1 r# o# |0 {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 Q) o$ `5 {4 i4 t1 ^! {In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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7 F/ o# \% w8 HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' T" \# T; D6 q! N3 l" CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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- q8 N% g9 _$ U1 t3 c$ h3 V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ h& [: h  ^. {
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yes, that's the point.

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2 ^" `7 O2 \5 s! [陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......