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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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" x% h; T( t% f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* F" F" O# l2 b+ B6 X& \

$ ?; D2 G7 F# y" N! Sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ T& M" l. @% i  S# s- q# @; \, IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 F7 D4 J/ _/ a1 v9 ], B
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4 ~9 |9 @: H1 x+ B2 D' R" G3 xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" T5 T" M0 U" U1 K# l2 {3 P

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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! I( Z# c9 t. H$ @5 Q0 A打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 @/ ^  M" Z& i' _, w% g, h! h
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. B- w' N# v9 j" ], Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; m8 h! K/ @7 \* a! O
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

' C/ L) ^* R. eyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 S- c1 ]: @( |3 m3 Y0 K" H

( s2 \7 o- Y8 v) J) hyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......