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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ a% V! y! B% k. t  ]
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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) L" _) o8 _# D/ tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., j, {2 E1 _0 P: Y5 y3 U) H
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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& O# v6 T! v2 {6 Z9 M, P5 hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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" O" @7 H1 R. W$ \8 Q; J/ P6 f其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 Q# Z; k& Q8 b9 q% m- k) J8 n0 o7 i
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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  e# ]0 g. c# N6 ^# B打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ u# c5 d* i/ T

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ ?$ _: F$ J5 h3 Z: l% ]; G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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0 ]& n% H( f3 T% FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 ]% h6 f! _9 ]+ Y4 J

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1 P* k" a4 I2 nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# l( P+ {; L; s8 i( f. m- b
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$ w( T3 z& q" A, V  w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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; f6 h8 ~& l" G; Wyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......