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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮." \" r& B* H7 n( ]
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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$ S6 P0 W: Q5 A: k! U% YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) y0 `1 R8 D+ E7 u- u6 \# T
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 E9 e- Q2 r) b; b
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 m8 w& [" p3 b8 A8 C
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) C$ U! D4 g5 [. _- Y
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) V1 F6 l1 z0 Q  w* N9 wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' \6 C# @) ?3 F9 D8 {! r" l, l

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9 s; j; D% i1 X$ Q2 d* ]% H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; i, B! X/ g0 m1 r; }$ q  C

) l; O5 X' X+ A0 @yes, that's the point.

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