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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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$ g9 b& r- J8 B- {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  c0 e9 J% E9 u1 M" b% D  u

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* ~0 Z. B* n& ~1 u% M# f4 DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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% p- _: F7 y) J1 ~! r. S3 B) M8 uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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8 I, b9 h5 X% f6 uwhy?
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6 t, J( k; z; W3 P; q" F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) l1 I6 C1 J9 x' u% \: F" B
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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% |) `" x4 ?: B5 f& ^% r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" v9 H( U( s1 s- _1 S3 E% u6 \0 x
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.: Q0 C* F. I# i" ]; s$ i
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 e4 a  c& t7 @+ a* H6 A5 L# Z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 S" _1 a4 i# m. r4 H, _% z. O" j
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( r' [+ S0 K  I; y" `

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他比孔明更偉大

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: W2 B/ I' g$ i9 rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" l) h! C9 I4 j5 |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' v; ^( e7 k6 [6 z, Z" _
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& n, O/ p. c4 V" u他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

8 ?) `1 y1 b' B, ?yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* q- P* e6 O" [- J& O) D

" {0 c; u1 b+ b) [! b! C- oyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......