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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ n  C0 v& O8 _
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! w3 u6 V5 d3 T& a  s& }

# p3 E% m3 d- X/ h3 l( m7 M& z" Q9 obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: X: x& b8 W* E3 P

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* Z7 [. ^9 j( C# P
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) E6 S  g) F+ M$ C軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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) H2 l& ?) d) y1 i( {- M# {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( a2 {8 U  V6 N- x
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ B: I8 R9 X6 ?' [0 g9 S8 J  z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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( B& ~; V9 V3 C* J他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 C7 h; S, y( @

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& D) t, I3 p' _% B6 \# [
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yes, that's the point.

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. N. E* C; M2 f6 Q0 ^陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......