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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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1 m5 H; a! ?5 ^) t/ _智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 A5 q0 J) g; Q  n
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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# f& ?* ?) T$ Y, M+ a: ]& c/ m3 K$ CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 d2 a0 O) T# c/ j5 F

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6 E+ I% o4 q, Z3 @其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus. @6 M& h( ^& j) }' [: N% F

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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* M) O7 h6 G2 ]7 X5 Q, S# f( e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 c5 G9 ^8 [1 \3 ]8 z* X+ c% P( U0 l

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( D) l% y" i/ I) {9 ?+ k8 {In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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* K0 ~# b9 G0 k, F, ]( H/ ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 l. \9 V' M  t9 N( A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:1 H4 v# h6 N: ~+ u3 V
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8 B8 V0 f/ @7 [5 K* B6 L他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......