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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# O- O& _4 ]) _/ {6 o9 T
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 V- q' t6 W1 Z- R! z+ R: ]$ y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, f' e/ V( ]2 d# p" I, z! ~6 oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! m: P1 i+ J; O- k( ^9 Z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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. H$ o: ^$ c& A5 k% `, WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 j# |: w6 Y. i% c5 \- d, }0 Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- R6 w( [# B& J4 j# Z, k! e
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- m, @9 E# M' E: J軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.7 ^& J# V# t3 f5 @

, U+ Q# i' V  ?# P: y" W3 n打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! _' X7 w2 F& g2 ^- k9 H' lIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 |* l* z& l9 T' }6 |7 v

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  z/ f. {: l0 i5 ?# b% {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

9 ]  ]* [$ u2 ?% Tyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" \  W) ^' J% g% d
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......