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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 L0 O( T9 ^0 E: B: Q. G( P; v2 J

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" \% L$ c& F( B0 u智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& S5 L, ]8 {! E' f

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% r0 }6 W3 s) \: ^6 J
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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2 N% [- l; D  a* ~! ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! L& s5 ?& B: ]2 V- G

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2 q6 o! w- o8 t其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! \$ U( T7 T* ~# e* v; p
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. a, J  p* l+ f" ~
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  W4 q, w+ k9 N. {
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 x' q6 r9 o% h' ~! M- [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 q5 h4 Y0 m% z) F0 P7 Y1 \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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8 G" e# Y' }- e他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) o1 O8 j9 |8 l) h1 q0 ]. i

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他比孔明更偉大

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$ ?( z' ?# r+ [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( [) c: j" r# }2 k" X他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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