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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ ^. R- Q' w: f
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 N  K# U% B: K- j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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. I0 \6 v4 _/ E5 @" a- GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 J, Y. r9 y; ^% n
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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; r1 ~" i9 N( E! H0 @' v1 }9 u9 ]智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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5 }% N# m$ N& s; N' ?, P" m0 r6 D軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& H7 ?2 E) E3 T# V5 `
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ ?0 Z- p( R" ?
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* Y8 }( [6 `  C5 w2 gIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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, j4 t  e. M3 EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; [, E! v: B4 O7 f

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 T2 J0 N1 @' ]2 ^7 P6 h
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yes, that's the point.

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