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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 V  y3 Q: D, ?. o' l3 W4 P
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 E/ P& P" b, F. E( L/ x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ i1 ]! Z" Y9 ]4 T
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, n8 F. {% W* aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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. I0 o1 d. d  D2 m/ R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  r+ F7 b7 c, }, k) E$ F& U, _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 t, ^8 ?8 z8 L6 ?' N
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.3 T8 n* {) s  M
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: W. R& G& I6 J- p3 I$ l/ {% G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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$ {9 k* u8 K+ B/ o# H% B+ F$ ]5 bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 q/ C& y9 C& K8 F- s0 ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* e% z0 Q1 L/ G. f6 }8 }, F' W

9 ~  r& v& D% \4 H1 D- V/ f8 Dyes, that's the point.

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7 V, z: j0 K5 G( u5 r6 W陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......