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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; v$ W* |- X$ h9 x9 T
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; b! f: Y! }4 ~+ O1 Z0 i

5 f, p7 L* |) l1 C1 Y! A2 m" `but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% z: j$ m: p+ Z5 u0 g6 v3 y; t* y. w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 j$ Q( a9 i$ a( Q0 y& v

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 X( v# _2 E+ g" i7 ^其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- n! ^6 |$ `' v6 u$ f
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1 t) ?$ f3 S2 W& R7 Y0 {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus, U$ T, G" F. \2 G2 b( O. W

$ x9 l" n& X7 J. ?2 B+ ~智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, D* @, k5 v% O. q$ r. Q

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.# ]/ i8 M: r4 H+ f

% B0 m! f8 D  b$ K# }打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 o; _4 W/ Y9 x. s4 f! N7 R2 sIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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# I- U* T. o0 u4 c' Q他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( ~( V! q+ `8 n0 _- nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" G$ Z8 T: U7 M' ]3 r1 Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& A$ A/ u3 M, S: N
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2 u+ d6 J# z4 ^* i, X2 R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( F( Y- a# e9 ?8 L

; ~! r: g. N" W2 {: Y0 d* Iyes, that's the point.

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3 N* P4 L4 T& a! y+ t  _陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......