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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* ]$ O2 _1 O& ]) X5 \" Y% G1 YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& r$ p2 Q7 K# U2 W5 B+ i( V

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! I, @& }$ v% N$ J, w4 d4 N: MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 a, C& m1 ]- P; _" ^

7 B7 p: o2 g7 K& f- y/ ~" D, K7 ]軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% K9 a3 u- m5 O9 i7 I8 \

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( E4 Z5 _+ I5 d; [: h3 |6 ~' L打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." V" Q0 b6 u6 e  L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 `' G4 m; j1 c% ]3 jIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 _" b% k0 y/ P5 r; C0 }8 Q

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& ?5 @. K  D/ m8 qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  x& o9 X% c& [$ YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 s  C0 h- f  ^$ E. m  k* G
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

- I) `! E+ N; G* uyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; ^2 _# R# _% F* A
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......