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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- Z* G5 \& W! @8 @" t

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( K; G1 K1 t( v) G" f. i/ ?, D

  `+ ]% U7 J9 q0 Abut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 q2 j' d; j' ?# l5 P- r( @# ^# OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( S6 u+ E. A% Z1 x/ C& {/ Y
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ |! f! }/ _7 @2 u
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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2 b8 j  w' h$ }: {$ g- }* ]' i0 a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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2 [8 o; u, p; A8 e& j5 Isee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* _& |# s4 R- J, s
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 ?" V7 ^5 b" `* i, \8 U0 \

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 W: f( u- \8 K! O3 HIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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/ W! C+ {' o8 h- z6 y) UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: a( p- q8 h3 r5 B* Z- d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  _! k: q/ D8 h$ Q# S: b
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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