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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 y& n  c, N6 m( D, e' u* e# ?

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 H5 Y: x) P. ]" R5 K7 m
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 W9 l  d. d0 f7 j  S2 d/ Q% J( yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 J# S3 M' i7 Q/ T! V

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5 P1 h9 h& w& H9 B0 d8 q( L7 v& b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# I4 s/ @3 K' b+ |5 Ysee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 h5 z' A4 w2 x4 {0 t+ j: G
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 X* y/ X2 z& h9 G& ^7 j3 r
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. v) E1 S4 j$ l& s# d/ r- x
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ g+ ]# ^& E# K+ V, Z. A
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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