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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, L" n8 Q* O; D
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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( v1 c' ]& E# o+ Wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 q8 H9 @9 e# G# |/ RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 m$ |, {+ e; Y: X

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 o( r5 E/ b& t. g+ T$ y4 pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ h2 J) }' |! L% U; N2 h4 f$ w
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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., R) y& v) |0 t  q! P2 Z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 x8 |# m7 \: D& {( d. KIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 `; j5 S# E6 h3 `. q

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 [1 o; a. b, ~& C/ N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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+ C- w+ T4 S7 A* v& ]1 ?yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......