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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. i3 r2 O" u' k! `- M2 l' U; j
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. H% E1 N% K0 a  \0 H; p1 [. b* x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; x' q( r6 c4 Q  R7 ~& W. m$ C9 o
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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1 U5 d+ R! \  Rsee #22 Thus
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# a9 T* o% _4 x/ ]$ y4 ?軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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9 o& [2 K, t1 \& D政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.& W! B# K7 W9 c, @6 Q9 n

! K/ S6 _3 y: u7 |4 w打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 y) o4 ^+ B# I
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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$ Z* n. b5 R4 B9 t3 ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 W3 Q5 @. F7 o0 ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ }  e; C1 Q, F3 {9 ^, \

' Q/ J+ V9 C& k7 {4 E5 iyes, that's the point.

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