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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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" v' S5 D5 R8 X* Q0 f, h; ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 ~' P. [0 J3 }* cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: ?( @$ Q: c2 V  W  l! P+ }, J$ T

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. O% y3 N$ L) i2 ]: W+ c

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* B8 |' j5 s; Y+ @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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* g; A! I! d9 @8 w9 d% e5 q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& u* }" X$ Q9 L# \
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. G; h! s; w: v, _2 l1 w3 o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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! k9 E1 N  T1 X* T智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, i% C. g1 ?- Z2 t
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 Y1 C! P- o; x* W

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 o6 b  w7 C) E8 H' P& D2 a/ r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# V: @5 m0 c  t+ z

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# ~5 |: O. E- \2 ~7 U) X' ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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) t! M. {" C% M* D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 x2 |1 w: n" Y4 {' i& y

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. ^& H: w' x2 ?7 B6 e* {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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* ]( ?  h# J$ P' Dyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......