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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 Y9 x2 F7 q4 q" s- N' j
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& ]0 S" e" K6 N# F% G# Z  L7 s7 {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 [% m% [6 w$ a# o0 [5 w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ Y& I0 ?/ Y0 e1 e" v
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  V0 u4 F/ z2 ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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$ h8 q( Z1 N* g6 [/ {* _( e& N3 w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維( \& R& B$ V! N" G6 J7 C6 _: D

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) `. m" e* B# L打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; Z" w' g( ?3 R' R. r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" n4 `2 X. d/ x4 O9 u
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* [7 w4 G; V7 U4 J# z5 G  E
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( K0 A) y) O; y1 p) u- K

6 v. \: f' F- Xyes, that's the point.

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