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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 T. n& L9 t9 Y! Z1 c% d# X

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  ]4 n& T; q% [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 _" |; b& e( C$ J& H
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  L9 R+ R. u) h- V4 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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( s, F$ K! s4 v. ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 l; f! \* s- L( n9 H$ g/ r) o
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% e5 e6 M  e. ?2 B) }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->8 w+ g& K, k; K! |& j5 Z
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 ?% z7 h3 I7 C0 a/ r4 |9 ~

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' d$ W7 d" i0 V2 X. j
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* P, l8 q3 k6 Q6 A. X
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 N! C+ v) C. e
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6 |5 F! n0 N" F0 L* Z" S# B* {1 u2 |+ TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......