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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" m9 Z! t9 ^* E/ X0 L" Y: G
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 c/ N1 D$ X  T
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 I/ P% s# }6 e- vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 J" B8 A* [& q, }- @  g
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:5 n3 l: Y. J  n( ^) h2 F
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% r  [' F/ W* [5 K% |; D7 PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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9 E, g; G* h( L& m$ @+ d: x$ d0 \其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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4 x* E( M0 v5 D1 a: P( m: }2 e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 W- L; ]" x  [( l打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 u# N3 M2 w9 x& M& F; A

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; u6 U. e5 D7 K% L: m1 U3 `: p- LIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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$ M  ?7 W+ |+ V- t! l2 ~" @/ t% \7 @他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# Q/ t6 b/ d. G& }" K

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他比孔明更偉大

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. P, q0 \% u8 Q6 L; XAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% k  z: k8 t6 s+ I8 ^

# r9 H0 [( s& Q6 H* I9 hyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......