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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

9 a* s' r: l- ?/ {- ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 [& n$ v6 A$ f# V! _* m; ^% e

! U7 F" [6 w; w1 Sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 E/ g+ x+ ?9 F7 q* [4 xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ m5 Y  n1 T! B1 G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ j7 l9 Y. c. v+ E- t4 j1 B. l% L

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9 i: k% p' |" SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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# o7 s( l( o1 M( n6 L  X其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ m, `3 g( Q+ K& C! H: B

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+ [7 u0 ^$ Z! m* Q; W. j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 w" d9 b! n/ y* M: M9 T) w! {- K軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ x  a0 x$ W% d# l4 d- `

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- E$ i6 X* g$ Q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 C% q) B" D( C) l# L9 {$ P' l! S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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% S  g  d: |2 z2 `8 E. [$ U! @) XAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) j" L% x( T6 j$ V, @4 `, F  G$ o( _
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......