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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) W7 b+ ]9 j$ e

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; V, l& j- S3 ?- u! {
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* y& \  g" o! B  L% ^1 m

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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: T( p/ C4 v) ?9 z" Qsee #22 Thus
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; X* w; P0 _  ^: r  N智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& O, E& V: h1 r
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% ?1 |+ p* M0 C6 ~# A

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: E0 _5 r4 k, b& j( ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 U) M7 o; t$ f8 X4 PIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ P! K5 l8 v7 @# t
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 ?& I& e2 c0 q4 m7 c+ }  M/ k8 ?3 ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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