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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ o$ Z, B* [+ W" ?; M
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, e0 x! S. j. @: |
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! R; W  S8 u  ~% i2 mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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$ f7 ^% X& p) z; C8 V2 N  L: |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus
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& Z( N6 f# I- `( v% i5 t7 |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ H( t8 {) N6 `! p
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 A) R7 y: ~# m

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 }- K# m8 ?* a, V

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& n$ n1 L2 V8 Q& A( M
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% a( f6 F2 A1 h- U

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他比孔明更偉大

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3 `- O/ R/ t0 H$ PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......