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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( j$ k& D8 S5 M( c) `. Z
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8 U* V# a: w, A7 m0 U智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: F5 ~! Z/ z; Y' P# L( |

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6 J' L' z# U1 D: cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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4 G. }  ?. K4 j. a2 h" `0 V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 i2 j0 Z; N4 n( x& I0 d軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 l; `  K  ^7 p7 P: xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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- F# T/ C/ `$ g他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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7 \/ E$ `8 n- V. X5 c$ {0 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 g0 W. }7 g) N/ O9 L* d* m2 E
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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