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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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$ U. O8 t, Y9 ]: v1 [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

5 o+ n1 o: w6 k/ K" |but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; T9 b- R. i& }; [6 ]3 J* q2 e

( N8 U8 ]- h0 |* ?but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) b. g- I# p; G. q4 ~# ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! |$ i, @! K2 x+ A7 H9 b; I% g6 fwhy?/ D9 X) G  F  q3 g3 N

1 K: J$ o5 T  D& t$ a& F$ K' V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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/ D6 N+ T) d$ m4 A; fwhy?: x2 I; K6 r5 `5 {! R  I

/ r, N9 g0 M  `+ ]9 V( [/ x其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 P& i  r3 E) D" Z% p' U( ?see #22 Thus
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( r$ k1 V" [$ ?3 t' c智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ Z, c: p! y. D. Q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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# |* Z' |: Z" L% E: W9 `- O6 k打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 G, \; k9 N# b+ M0 {5 ]; MIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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" p9 t6 E5 o0 n( [1 @) f他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* |8 ]  M- S+ O5 X& s6 m
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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$ o7 L0 y' o. v' `. ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( @, v2 W# x9 A2 k# H( u5 I* |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......