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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" F6 _6 i  t( A2 U5 }/ C+ f. S

' t3 P1 W8 }! M! [5 V6 k2 ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' X) m. ?" ]! e# x' [( V- N/ }5 A; cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! L7 \( \3 R  V. T+ t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 A# B8 c; M. u5 Q: mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?  ?2 j" n0 F' r. A  E" p) h

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% @2 I4 G' n' B2 f) y

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% c) A1 N7 L/ S9 k# \5 a
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.8 O- U# T1 u9 k& m

/ E. f% n; b% v) ~& C. m  S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! u0 b& Q& U) qIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 X! ~; d! T& ?4 Q3 K5 }

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, B* U8 Z+ T0 \4 E; v+ I" ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:1 K. P0 J( y- F0 e6 H+ q$ @

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, L: y6 a/ T. g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 R. T+ c( q, R7 I; t0 D. [- e8 b
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yes, that's the point.

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