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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ z# j) L' r* e+ c/ K" @5 z
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 j2 Q+ I( R( f. b' X0 Obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
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, w2 C3 {& T( ^5 ^* e  zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# ~; V6 e! x* F1 G5 [

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
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why?
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2 a/ T8 ~( _4 |+ \其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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7 ~( U5 S5 }+ G& a其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
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6 s) J, L7 o- v9 ]+ K- @2 [6 F6 u智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' L) D4 i5 {' s. |3 q
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軍事才能:諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' i# l* O2 g5 O( o$ R' k  B
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政治才能:<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打:姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
網上身份誰不『機密』?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; W3 Y$ N6 b) u' c  ^. ^8 t
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' G) E" s; o" m' p" k4 I! [In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) u2 x& A5 Y5 a- O/ o
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& J( x% O$ z% y; r* d

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2 T8 p4 ]3 ^! j3 E$ F, QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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yes, that's the point.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
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