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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:1 B2 Y+ r: K6 R
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; A2 H. X3 m  M3 p, j9 ~0 f

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0 k2 q+ p4 s, _/ g0 ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& L( c6 d  _; A/ r, T8 F
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2 I' E5 S! _- i; p' xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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+ R4 ?! Y$ ^9 r3 q  w智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 F8 ^& m3 M( I* s: O5 q

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) J) A! L: j/ E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: R, v$ v6 y4 t6 Q) h1 a7 J2 Z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( @) S. c7 o4 _0 J% ]: WIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, V  r' ^& L/ i: q: W. iAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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- {9 Q5 }/ X7 t1 m# i7 P; o他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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/ D7 K8 k! @* E# W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 Q; n. s" q2 e% _

* D& x7 D% A) x2 xyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......