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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% _5 p9 o/ \% }0 A

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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; o- ~+ T% }3 I* [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 b/ z" S  _, p: ~
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why?
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; A! q. V1 y1 R' p# @. q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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2 a/ f$ ^2 m2 v智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6 c7 y# C% Q4 D. F4 N, F
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# `- `% H3 z: V; Q! o
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% a) e% ~, d4 c

2 j/ C0 z# n- t( r% n  g打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' e  j" ^2 c( t1 G+ @

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, Z2 l$ e" c7 ~* s
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 u' O7 b  ?: x  k. R2 `6 e6 J, S
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8 {2 W6 \7 V# y$ l* AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 m& ^# R! S$ M& O

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6 {; A8 ^5 T* {- K9 T! _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......