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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ C: l% h5 H0 t. T3 b
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 j" N% t+ F$ n6 s5 O) J$ _but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; s3 \2 [; w; vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 q, s( h  O6 k2 }/ e

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 R5 ]. K- ?! K  c/ T2 N3 X( D1 E8 [

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2 R; t5 F/ C- _! P8 ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" ?7 }0 B4 s. [' Q# Y8 D1 o
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  g; W7 s, v; P1 i8 C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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* E; c5 o; u$ i+ y) y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 Y3 Y1 @" Y! e# i$ {, P

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." k" T8 a5 y5 N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! S  n0 k1 m" kIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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9 h# K% d4 R# f" V他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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% g: u: Z' H4 Q& j0 H( TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 X: K& z- H& P8 n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- S+ D. Z9 Z; d3 S! W. C
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5 I9 v- A4 Q. S3 S他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......