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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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: [) M* q9 n$ K1 v2 Y  E( v% }# L5 C% {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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$ F% |% @# o  U. QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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; L* {- ^/ b1 @其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 \  E8 C- z0 m# \$ ]( k
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- r9 Y/ \. Q) }& h5 y$ l; V5 j

3 A7 P' ?5 @" p- ^軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 G0 U$ I+ w9 B% h( j2 b- O/ v
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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6 u8 i! i7 T4 N! D( b6 H0 g  f7 k他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- I! w7 {* A/ d+ B  K  {
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: |' M7 Z: Q: l' j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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- B5 }5 V0 S$ \) E5 z; m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. K- v/ Y) x. k+ Z% \2 D8 b- K
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......