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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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- F) ~( s, A6 ^! `: X+ jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 D2 L* T; |6 e  W+ I! Z0 F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# G7 R& ]% T" k7 m- c( P
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 ~' B$ H2 Q5 V* {) o8 _0 G. }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 ~7 S+ H( a, |- T3 E9 ?
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維: D" _% ]& E3 N8 C
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* W7 S" u  A' D# X/ jIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 `( `4 G/ P& D
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) u/ F2 m( }0 r: o: QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, X) N9 v0 F4 K/ A8 Q) ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......