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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  I& L- P, |  w, v

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 \$ i- A" f8 c% `% z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, i) H% [" @) @; ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' Y5 u5 Y$ o7 f0 P7 }7 r

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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+ M; v4 {$ {4 R7 |/ Q' q+ T" e" w6 m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 F' V: M5 Z8 M' }
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: [# S5 J) a9 v9 o. N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus! l8 S, O3 T8 E4 @3 ~* z3 J6 `9 s9 [

9 ~! a( _; P3 M智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 a$ j3 @' l" F7 r

6 }/ I4 y# v! j* G% Y6 Y軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維3 k8 C: o4 O1 l

  D# M3 z* i, {2 k政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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; d3 M4 u7 ]4 w  _  O% V9 F  |% K打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 s* ?5 @- d$ I  g& y
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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7 o3 k6 ^  z8 K: l. m4 pAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* x6 c5 y" ~  F% L7 A

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7 _7 Q; l5 o' \- G, c3 T4 s( c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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