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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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, ~$ m+ O9 b/ _8 m1 f1 Nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, r6 {. r. J( a) F: q1 Y

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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. g2 D) j- p$ y9 T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維: Q2 b) U/ a$ k7 K* u% ?
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.- V2 {( t* P2 R3 j
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ S! @' G$ r. |7 x8 v) \, f0 M9 j! t
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* U) C% K5 R/ S. |7 J1 Q

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ ^2 t9 A! b; V7 i# C1 n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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