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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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# T1 t6 ^/ z9 h4 |2 r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 ^+ d. y5 |* T1 bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ f) y7 `  C0 X& J9 _
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6 d5 m6 a* I! }) j3 Q6 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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+ ?8 ]' r- x$ ?/ N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus5 d+ }) R3 e/ N) M0 H- X

" d; [  Q. a3 V9 ?6 S* n  }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, N1 U$ b7 B( d3 l& B
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 r& Y( \$ k" f! y
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( f6 s* J; W" Q( [2 i

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, f$ r" R. s' l% ~4 _In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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* \8 v4 B( g( A7 r& \9 e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:" \* I& i* z8 h, S2 G, J
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$ b4 r( c5 {4 ^8 N- n' Z5 g6 r8 I. n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

4 ~. p6 `9 I, byes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......