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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( o; A0 T: Q1 U* U- D; X
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8 B: n7 q3 V% g智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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" ~0 t- ?& v" r: n5 _' X- O- Vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 x% Q8 W, ~, M# _! i9 tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 y& I! v8 [& p) D

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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" y( D: r+ t7 P; WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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8 h& a9 x/ P% W- I5 u! t" _why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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, k/ n7 s' n" Z# f軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 P* ]9 A9 r$ v5 |! G
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.! U9 ^4 ]3 ]( @8 ?
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 ~0 c3 w! b( ]# p' {6 O! ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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, N- z3 \. X; m( y4 V# f/ l7 T5 VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( [8 e) z/ t* a& G

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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  L2 d9 P2 ]! P7 O3 `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 ]& r! Y9 Y( l2 ~$ S
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" |: i- }- K! ~/ w) |' k2 }! p他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; k4 M) H/ }, ^/ G

% D4 S# @; L5 a2 i. U2 F( o% ]yes, that's the point.

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