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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- e* d, z4 g) h: F% ?! S# d, L
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 u3 O/ D& F3 v' gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 `, E& r; x1 a( G% L
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  [0 O6 I- M% \% f& ^+ q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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3 J0 d: j/ \; t0 l' u- ?. k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# b0 J7 A0 @1 U  _

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. `9 B7 R8 u) ^* k" vIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' l, |9 G" }3 @( _

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+ J* o. U8 J$ H& iAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! o" Y; I4 g- Z5 o

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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9 P' o" g$ r+ ^8 y' r* m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

4 l) O/ T: f" ]- dyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  O3 X: |, c, P# h/ D1 Y  b' q

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......