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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:1 i. N; ~8 B1 z6 w/ J
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. T: v  C$ x) e8 Z9 p$ Q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) h) L1 J) A+ m/ i2 v; q; s, x

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9 y  T0 i5 m( ^) b  O# ^6 I7 }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 i5 E6 W  Q# ]$ c' m  |9 H
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see #22 Thus! E& v5 t/ P3 P: z3 \/ ?2 P

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 W+ {; v. {0 [0 h% O8 J! N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 y7 g! P# s: Z5 |8 c; g6 t2 s% ~- MIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 c2 m8 h! l1 w) I& H
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他比孔明更偉大

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+ {4 x4 m/ ]4 E4 F1 ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! C7 c8 T+ ?# J

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1 s. S4 P# L" U" a7 ]7 Y2 n$ B他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......