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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& I7 g7 E% i$ Z8 ?7 f

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; X9 F; a5 [+ `& l( N6 aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 x7 V1 P  r0 g7 N9 I0 X1 n
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, u4 S! ?3 r1 V3 S0 A/ Q
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7 J# b0 ?3 f/ t! Q6 |7 ?- P+ e0 RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ Q9 ~6 {/ X. p
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; L6 K& L+ {8 psee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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  R% J$ J* j4 r" J- t軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.3 x% l' C# s1 Y' t0 T4 a5 f
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' U! ]! g& d$ u+ l3 I! L/ g+ P
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; ~4 }! q6 K/ Y6 H( q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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9 K: `* }! L1 w/ x1 h  O/ }他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( U4 q. y% v" k- \( V; J+ I# {" z
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3 d- k$ x0 k- i6 S! P( {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# l& I/ i5 R7 B他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* ^8 c7 w2 F) }! Q9 R5 R

" u+ i3 Q/ B7 _( zyes, that's the point.

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