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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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$ R; E2 d; T( Y) q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 _, z. w9 i* t

5 Z( {9 y' a2 G5 b  Vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( N  u' v# ~  N  b2 a* tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" w  |: I! x6 Q% f' c. n& I5 k% W

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, B2 j) j, J! O' v% |) n" tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 `8 l* M, I& \9 H智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% z, e- _& r4 x
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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/ r4 _  K; [3 C, f9 H+ A打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, h; D7 ^7 b' Q; D2 L9 IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 x+ n% Q. b; l* I& u
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  D% V) h( O& k7 Y+ FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 E$ V& s- O: v
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' o5 ?3 a5 l$ [$ MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 A( c4 E" }2 U; W
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2 O/ Q# v* z5 k% {! `% x他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

5 h: ~  S6 H' E. M1 |% r. nyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 @1 f) d4 b, Z( ?

, ]  Q9 z9 {  s4 r4 t! e3 R0 @5 Yyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......