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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, P0 f. y# |' l9 s

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 N5 i6 ~% A# j" \2 t

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., J+ m8 d* o! p$ w' c+ W7 Y0 }! E
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: f3 ]1 D! f! v: p8 A$ g7 K+ eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 t0 w. j( o+ v* V/ J4 z

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why?1 |: v9 e. k0 _5 N8 N3 X3 s

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2 W4 }+ [. |, X8 V& Qsee #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.7 k( M+ F# F! _4 [7 D0 q
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% W+ T$ o) m4 d. P

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% h9 M4 @9 g' e9 P( uIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 k! I1 R+ ?; U1 y2 S- `  y8 l
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. K) a1 J/ ~' H; P" u

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......