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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& q" ?( `- W% ~0 E- x

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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% v7 i$ y9 L. R' X' jbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) t  h/ n* r$ g. V( x
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# g% l8 h6 M" z

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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  O0 t, m9 p. iwhy?
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' h& A  F% }2 |9 C: s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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6 t: Y7 b3 x) o9 h其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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' A; v2 x5 e* Y5 k4 _8 f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; i! Q2 Y  P: X) U) p

7 p1 _) k1 r. a% _軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 U, W, z  ?0 H% q& m/ f
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 e2 \) P+ ~# {: N6 s打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 D0 B2 Y/ g$ S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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  L  G/ B0 E1 u% N5 PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ |$ b3 H4 x5 a! T

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7 ~$ R) A# E+ O7 `Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 L. c$ H3 M" _: [$ }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......