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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 d% F; a! b' Q- \5 I# M
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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+ V% }* \" ^- k2 e$ m% SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 y4 T. ?( e/ Y# L, t2 j& m5 a: @

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! e3 e6 p- [2 e& r+ oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ P7 G& m3 {9 o: U2 {& s3 U; c

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. t) r# V3 v# q1 V3 I' k0 B3 yIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 R/ \# h0 k% S
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: y7 d: t) M9 O5 U, L% @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 `0 q7 p" j6 l$ b9 r

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' v3 }9 x/ P5 K  ^" O" j0 o: M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 }. m8 G+ @2 J. H" e
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......