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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, O+ T0 ]9 l$ V( R# f
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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; w" R, P) p9 u. M5 c  LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 H& q1 A9 w4 ^0 b+ S

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 O. D; w: |+ k5 |" T

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5 E- {% F3 ~" n, MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! V5 m* O* z! i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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6 H9 B( E: g3 b' x6 d4 n/ p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ k6 {3 S) F: Y" j4 p
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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6 I! [3 w/ D! R  u4 I0 U2 `政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 k6 |$ I* U+ K  L: h7 ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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$ _" X3 H- b) Z/ U) [他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ _" i4 U! S* F0 F$ o3 ]他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 e3 V; i/ n! |1 q- W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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