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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:1 R( U* w/ r- I; E8 I

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 [2 r( M0 a5 u% }2 fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 u! H. P# R! j& b* S: aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 x4 W2 E2 i, V/ j

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 L0 X& f; D. O5 B0 N/ \, ~* Q
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5 L' S4 l4 ?" l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 n0 Y1 a3 u) d4 }see #22 Thus
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3 g& Z. w3 i( f0 N5 H4 ], O* l; H智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: e8 S# |( a7 Z* u

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' b7 U8 ?4 [; a2 v* c& J0 V! T+ E$ ?
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. f. L# S! g: H( D! z/ G4 M' Z# r2 W* dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ O' J' [- C- R1 N9 }
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 S+ d- L1 u9 B0 L0 X2 y
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yes, that's the point.

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