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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  |/ R9 H/ C# p4 M' M

) v  Z6 Y( k% j* g( ?- w% A! u- z( ?but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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& d$ e% }( o, q. A! g3 ~0 E+ eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 e) {3 ]" o2 ^/ }
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus8 m  P( N9 W: U4 @$ u& Y( X8 j
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! W3 W9 H. }( m9 ~

" C; u8 R- _  Q5 M軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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" `7 Z; i3 ^/ c) M" h打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 Q  }4 N, X' t( y. b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ \2 I0 _! \9 T
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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8 n* Q$ @. N* F  u4 fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 _; E5 v4 O4 q' J6 L9 \
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  z) P% N( h" @4 ]9 i; lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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5 U- K4 u: H* J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 Z3 x; l2 p6 M7 I( I/ M- r5 _

5 r5 S4 W! R3 z9 f. p9 uyes, that's the point.

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