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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 ^+ e5 p9 g; v, t

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! s/ O4 z. l- q9 g# v8 S$ s' ^3 e
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  G+ V/ P& n! u" x9 o* E- SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# A! X! j2 M, D) b. r/ {& P1 o
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 L5 \1 h6 [8 U* g2 c1 @
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9 r5 F& {: {6 F0 U- F; U, o% p* n  N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" y4 r2 P+ I9 e& @  E+ K8 R
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% ~5 f% h3 S; K9 C5 D! x2 R0 j4 F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. s* w1 d* B/ q; _  X7 j6 o# `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' b5 B/ l  v  W' U# ?; j

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 d- i, G% k7 ]0 M

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& _( r1 P4 o" O6 p
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  R% C; Q3 J0 G  B, a2 v& u

) o1 y1 |; y9 D* }yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......