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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" v: {4 W; h$ G. A% e  ^6 U9 i

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 v) B' V' K& n% x; u( C% F- C1 Ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 H. \1 y9 d8 @* B3 f) M

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  I% F; A$ W( A% R( U' W0 Z" M智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( T8 a7 ~' q# c, w

9 D' U2 C; J/ @9 [) @( t. a軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) g) z: s/ ^; F2 s0 M9 |
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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: ~5 K/ \  d& |3 Y5 }打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 w7 o2 K% A# V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 ~8 J: r$ t/ D' Y& n3 ^
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3 V: s, ^& f( T. p# f$ @9 c/ K5 UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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/ H! @$ C, }% P5 K: r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) j6 m% X& E7 Y: c, v4 s: ]

1 q+ W! h* p" g. V9 D' m9 Gyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......