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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" q, ^6 h1 G# f8 v0 n
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 Z8 t+ L. c5 e) ^: L/ Z9 {9 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& O; T1 m! o5 D& d

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 D+ q7 a* X( R* D2 j) m4 g
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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$ B- V5 x1 T# Z1 j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.& \& C- e9 n: d3 a+ c& C

0 i* r7 m& F( w3 g3 E7 W) J打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* I5 B8 G5 }: O' N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 a" v' |- I5 H2 _. i
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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- F* e$ ~( L- C% LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( m% q, ^/ B  k" X' C, o" LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: Z& g# @5 I2 l; @

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......