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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. z6 F4 @% d3 Q1 \3 k- v1 K

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& o( W& @( Y; Z& u, G. t9 O4 [
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 I& X3 o$ {2 D6 C# @% @* ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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. i" G* ?7 ^- S% {1 r/ vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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. f6 S' p' b2 L# @* {' J) [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% U1 u* o, K$ _+ g$ r) e6 Q/ b: R( }

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus- G, v, J6 c' V# a/ @
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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' \- v: B* X8 u5 s打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 C! O1 R: P7 ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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, Q1 O+ [& u" D) z# R% _. g6 [" w4 ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# e$ g. e' d' X3 j0 H

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 U* \) R  `, e: i3 W- B8 y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 Q8 u4 S' h. f
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7 p8 ^9 V* L1 z$ S0 S他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......