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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 C0 \0 P2 i* B  i. v

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' I1 c4 V7 a2 D" qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' a5 n) O" S" C3 S% H' ^8 s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: Q( Z! W3 d# m) t4 U
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- ]6 b1 b3 v% i# I; G! l" L

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus; v# B* V6 h# h4 V
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; N+ b+ W! @9 u0 b& t
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 i* B+ n$ \( G

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ p1 z- w4 H/ M9 g0 @0 v" JIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 s# t( p1 u+ z& |( E
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他比孔明更偉大

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" e8 ^" L7 {' T4 GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 n1 v6 G/ W7 v5 M

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......