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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 m9 D4 ]2 z" C, ^6 p( G0 OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ k6 T6 `- ]  [( M4 Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  b3 ~, q! J  G4 a& U
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/ o7 x) v2 }7 V7 XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" N: _: ]+ S+ Y$ N( \. |

) w/ a2 z/ i# e6 G1 u* ]軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) `$ n# a9 h2 m3 O5 ?

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2 x( N0 m$ j, P2 D( F& {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 L. b0 @( t. m4 Z0 r8 a9 _1 t3 h

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: h, R* U! W! Z7 BIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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6 k+ i' _$ Y4 K. ], dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( L* ^+ j; r& o3 a6 X4 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( X6 y- Z( p# ~3 \/ K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ k% q0 [( v( M# e  f' V+ r

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% k+ `/ a/ M' |; u2 S5 a/ V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

/ s9 @' H* L" S  Z" C% ?yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......