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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 `9 _3 L% Q. c) g; I

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- t' [9 d* u# ^

* s+ w1 u7 h5 Fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  z' H1 ?) Q" e% J, k
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; G' W3 H! |# I" ], LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- E; t- K- g6 W
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; d7 I( O" ?4 W0 j5 M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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4 |9 X4 o8 s' e1 g9 X, G' J/ _智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.( [+ j6 N8 E; r) O

7 R% M/ |6 h1 r- c打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ E3 Z1 l6 Z7 R+ o. ]" b# ?8 H. g

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 e7 ^; [5 e' x- KIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 ~6 ^* ?+ M3 {) H1 R1 V/ ]

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  o) f) H, f* J( OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 _. t$ O$ i# J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( k! l' n& {' T0 }

; z9 Z4 I4 l7 W/ t* dyes, that's the point.

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6 w7 j6 [/ ?0 r0 i' g陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......