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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" m! O: C. O4 ?2 u$ U; d8 }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 O4 _. f) j7 j
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ j: L. z# U" g' S0 m5 c9 _* z7 T: ~

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) P  q2 F8 `8 w( g2 E0 A$ G$ XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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: Y! N) }8 Q3 V  E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; E1 l4 r/ v  a: H# g1 M
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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) W. D, L" s. K1 K2 y) r- k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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3 }3 ]8 k/ B6 `! W" r軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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: \0 ^6 z. G) {' v+ N* I7 x9 O3 Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- E+ p) t( l5 e! M8 c' B' V

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151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; a: I. }7 L; I$ D
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& s# t& s) D. d$ i4 i

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151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  G# r: J  b; P; u+ C" Y+ n% {8 k' ]7 TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" ~/ u: g/ z" k, U; }1 I- @. Y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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! T4 a2 {6 R+ R3 j2 u& o; z5 ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......