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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; {& U/ A) C& |# y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 w7 r5 `' Y) N% |/ ?/ [3 ~  @, O* e
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! L6 j. J7 t- x, i  e
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5 u9 ~% A7 X$ c0 _: q# XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus) t1 Y8 S1 J' W& N* o) [
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; L% g) l- y, n# b  ~  o: j2 A
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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( _2 o' m" P  C! P8 p政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ D( b0 J9 t: q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ X" V. r; x7 |0 _) V) ~
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" e. T; K/ z+ s: I

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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, L& b0 M+ a. X$ K2 F! W# q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:1 n- j, Z2 z- X% ~1 t
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! }2 T8 p; @- q! g& ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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7 _& p8 V+ J, R3 q* J: J- a; Cyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......