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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 O2 X$ z/ d  ]# B+ t2 K
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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! l- d/ f; @5 I6 T) EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! s+ ?8 G+ k- j& U4 d" F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' N6 h1 Y, C" T+ Y
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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( Y9 O( h* \% e. e% R- z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 k% o/ p. R* ^! r$ `+ l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! w; v% @9 U8 o+ u6 C. [
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ t, {8 {; L9 f9 M& S6 D9 U

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' R% s- B( E# t1 K& ~* t他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' ~$ r8 s  W; m$ s$ _

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......