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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* b9 K4 D- x( `; f

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ \  G3 u) j& ~( a8 j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 O$ I8 {) o1 o0 h" mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& l  [  B( L9 R

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus' \, v% F3 ]' a  I2 x0 W

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 `0 d+ \7 P7 J/ G

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; a0 f  z1 B( f: S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% n; f! d9 g. V) e) i; J" E9 }In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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' {$ Z3 [3 i9 G# d2 ?他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 ^9 A" |7 Z! o8 _+ T
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- O$ g' V, P+ C/ z% J  V# q

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......