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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ |9 v8 U: g# _! ~: w  I

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0 Y9 J# X. W, e& }& v智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:45 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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& F! q4 m# d- @2 Y# |2 s- Z! t! ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus2 ]' g" _5 z( l8 `6 {8 X  Y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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+ a/ @2 u/ y! A. {& B, A打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 Y7 @  f7 C7 N: p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, ?. g  h: X" O5 P2 a7 ^  j% u+ hIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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5 X6 a( X* n4 d% s他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! U% b' \' }2 m" X

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) V$ D  g( Y' f  h/ OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. n1 Z% P4 P9 S; s  ~9 V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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, _& D" d  i# x6 x' g, Y1 j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& W; b4 @2 ?6 c% Q: I7 U

7 K. h: g. r" `* I2 g/ hyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......