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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 }4 ^9 r6 V8 L: Y0 j- e! a
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  d2 @) m% ^/ p" H$ w  Z1 `3 F

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$ N& s. K+ D) U6 w+ HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 ?* \. D' z' S* M0 s' h( L4 Y

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% X" ]4 J/ U+ j# w% aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 h5 x' \- L) {  t% p. I1 R

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; |9 ]( U; C5 a3 N打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 r* ~" V: s( m' S5 E7 i
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% ^  {/ J. B6 u" B# L0 K9 A
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" t+ J0 z! K8 GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, z1 B' i. d5 k5 q* P

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