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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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. x: v) f) A" k* W2 [! h智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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0 k* I  e( n$ c3 @: Tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  X8 ^' {! {! FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 J" k9 R( F  z, R; I

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+ C4 A* r0 X8 t5 D9 \- MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 w9 v; j8 m& @- J其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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/ k1 g! d: _; I. @% m$ \2 ^其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus, u5 ]: @( d7 T) n0 b
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 @- z, g" S4 y0 ~; m
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 q/ r* c9 `* d2 }
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  j$ I9 U8 V& j

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他比孔明更偉大

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1 @/ W# ?. T$ u4 {+ s# }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 m! {2 ^. k. u0 N

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3 B3 p. ?- p: ]* Q& E( ?+ U( ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% Q1 P- w/ t& u% v3 f他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 W2 I" Q' U7 i0 h

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% m, [; _% E$ q4 ]& w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 o) J8 |6 Z7 q

1 `% D% j$ e( d+ r% A1 myes, that's the point.

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