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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) ]2 `  \: M" T" x5 Z

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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* J" E( _4 O; [# ?: A4 h4 r% nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 s- l& A6 Z+ f/ Y
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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4 A7 O' a+ H; Fsee #22 Thus. y" H( T; m* ?8 Q: G& n

5 r- G$ s, o" p8 `/ m+ a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ }4 j0 {. Q9 U. L+ b; b9 O8 f. m

7 C7 l/ c2 Z4 M/ i5 R: P軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  G0 q4 x" j3 J+ p, h4 ]

, t  d7 q+ |, Q; [4 Y  \打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 Q$ I6 O( Z+ `# zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. S8 ?, H1 W" R* K" J/ h

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他比孔明更偉大

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6 `( }  X9 d: q, W* {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 ^  ~) ^9 b$ V. b, i! f1 m

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: J2 Y$ f- m1 y6 B( y+ NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:" z. s; |, ^  u" W7 p
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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4 _7 v7 d% [% c3 W5 [0 gyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......