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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 {; e" @& q+ i, N7 D8 z

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: {; z2 p9 B! @9 [  v& F

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: a' V  b, e: tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; v- S6 B* f! z/ `( s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! H: Z- K; P$ `4 u6 m/ e7 J0 m* x

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- p7 H5 I" A, U* ?. MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ _1 t. j- ?6 q3 l/ n

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why?
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( [9 x* |8 E: E' L2 R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 [- G- a. j- M1 u

) |' M0 N9 n2 T政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 w; m) L$ \) H( A( o
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; V' A+ T7 _; hIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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5 G# Z0 W( s7 t1 P) JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 W6 P+ H1 i5 K3 o5 `
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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  X* `9 v5 t  L$ j" ]$ @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& N6 b( N+ V8 V0 V: Y- P

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8 C$ j4 l: n- U, S/ |  d8 `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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7 ]: r2 n. [3 p- m7 |( Iyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......