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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 c0 d$ a0 a& c- _6 F* bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 t2 M) ]9 r( ?" U/ n6 N, U& `% ]1 G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 x- ^% r+ n/ X
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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9 ?8 @5 C6 c: u其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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3 G. Q& C6 B: Vwhy?
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) G# N% @" `7 O其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus2 m$ `3 X3 X9 v* S! ?. c
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 @* ~- W2 C5 `! N2 Q' i

$ y  f) W' J! ~8 b- X' |2 z; G軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" ]4 S$ |8 N/ j! o( a
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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; T4 H* U; F4 y- V- U3 R打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 y. y* N+ o5 b% z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ B, d" G: z. z6 V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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6 x& n+ u: m4 y他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! Y9 e3 Y' D( y0 U7 q. i/ q* r. n
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6 {2 H2 z( W' t& oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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) t9 y" h2 j3 W$ [- y: Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, k3 L2 y, i1 p' n/ i3 W
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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& x; {, Y" B  ]" a4 b& V8 V$ c陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......