michelle_tom

Originally posted by arthur8088 at 2008-4-9 12:49 PM:


totally agree with you...Arsena...

今場可以見到senderos真係廢到...
F9射埋佢都未轉到身...
A25錯失良機都係事實....

但我地既不滿係..
無數次既誤判十二碼.
我明白球證難做....
但係多次已經害死阿仙奴啦bo...
唔係講今場, 係league同uefa...上回合果球Kuyt點都係啦...仲有對Birmingham都係...
次次都因為十二碼飲恨...點gur呀...
仲有Liv今場都唔見得踢得好呀..
唔係問題球penalty...佢地一定出線?

T14H

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-4-9 12:22 PM:


喂, 好心你地唔好個賽果一唔合自...

輸第2球有咩好賴?
實力問題
但係第3球唔同,完全係球證問題

michelle_tom

阿仙奴無錢係一般香港人既想法, 不如check下近幾季,   <--- 呢個你可能都講得arm既
起新球場影響之下, 每季買人仍然出到幾多錢再講...

球証錯隊隊波都受過, 要講既曼聯都一堆12碼無吹到, 季初利記對車仔都有誤判
球証誤判只能怪運氣, 硬要將阿仙奴出局賴晒球証似乎有欠公道...   <--- 咁係季尾每一場都咁重要既賽事都出現誤判唔通就唔係一個致敗原因? 真係check下啦...好多次啦...士氣都冇晒啦...

不如睇番阿仙奴近期既from line, 由fa cup出局開始計,
12場錄得 2勝7和3負既劣跡, 得14球但失18球,
當中只有3場可以保持清白之身, 對手其中有2次係同樣無from既ac米蘭...  <--- 佢地近況係差, 防守有問題又係一件事...但球證係咁判十二碼俾對方...自己就次次都冇公平判決...點踢呀...

[ Last edited by michelle_tom on 2008-4-9 at 01:02 PM ]

amigofans

Originally posted by michelle_tom at 2008-4-9 01:00 PM:
阿仙奴無錢係一般香港人既想法, 不如c...

我係覺得出局唔係完全因為欠運, 反而同佢地近態唔好有更大關係..

至於講到運, 上次作客保頓果d, 點計?

LIUSHEK

雖然唔係阿仙奴既球迷, 但係對於尋晚場比賽都覺得可惜!!
阿仙奴追平既一球, 即使唔係佢地既球迷, 都值得起立鼓掌!!
雖然阿仙奴下半季既水準真係下降左, 但係佢地既鬥志真係值得欣賞, 好多場比賽都係落後之下窮追猛打!
今季雖然四大皆空, 但係只要保持呢份鬥志, 下季一定可以捲土重來!
禾確特呢場既入球顯示左佢速度同體能上既能力, 希望雲加好好調教之下, 將來成為英格蘭既希望之星啦!

HansChan

我覺得有啲人講嘢真好低能!
有啲本末倒置!
乜嘢要怪就怪自己主場唔贏,又自己後防唔做好啲之類......
乜都係自己隊有問題??佢哋冇盡力去入波??!!!冇盡力去贏?
比賽呀大佬!
兩隊實力相若,你話要做好啲就做好啲咩!
你話要做官呀,點解自己唔年年考第一甘呀?!你話考第一就第一呀?!你當其他人死o架?
阿仙奴係絕對輸得唔抵係事實一個,首次回合都係因為球證誤判而出局係事實!
如果照嗰啲廢話甘講,吓吓自己做到"無械可擊"就唔會輸....甘就唔會有球證因素哩個問題!!
比賽,我唔否認運氣, 球証判決係比賽既一環!
阿仙奴輸係輸得可惜!
但唔係可以話自己做好啲就唔駛而家頼球証...
倒返轉睇,球證冇誤判,阿仙奴係唔係出咗線吖?!
我唔可以話一定,但以自己眼睇到既賽事可以話係"好大可能好大把握!"
而家就係"正正因為球證既不知所謂,而直接令阿仙奴出局",我估哩句話係冇可能唔成立!
自己打好啲唔好俾人入波之類既說話,講嗰個都超低能!!
我想問有乜球隊係會唔輸波同失球??!!!
"如果自己做好啲就唔駛輸"既說法,講嗰個都白癡!
"如果自己做好啲輸咗都冇說話講,問心冇愧"既說法都還可以話係安慰說話!

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arthur8088

Originally posted by michelle_tom at 2008-4-9 12:56:


今場可以見到senderos真係廢到...... 但係多次已經害死阿仙奴啦bo...

For me, they are not the main reasons to make Arsenal in such a disaster...it's the dressing room atomosphere and Wenger himself..

In last league match, after Bendtner scored, no one went up to give him some applaud or encouragement...Only Walcott did it...it's quite obvious that everyone was still angry with his contribution to Liverpool in 1st leg of CL quarter final...With such a poor team spirit, how could they able to achieve trophy together...

Thus, Wenger has to take up this responsibility...He should have spent some time with players to solve problems between everyone....and more important is not showing to everyone on tv~~it's dressing room problem...should only be kept within dressing room...

the worst is he has chosen Gallas as Gunners' captain
how does he dare to select a newbie in his team to be the captain~!!?? and he's from same city's rival team~~~It has almost be proven that is not qualify to be captain...in this situation, he should be the first one to congratuate Bendtner..that's what a Captain should be...in fact, he didnt stand out to defend his fellow teamates~~

However, what he did is just sat on the pitch roaring and in tears (after VS Birminham) and saying all his good friends are chelsea players before a vital match before VS Liverpool!!  it's team spirit killing speech~!!! seriously~~
Have you ever seen Tony Adams, Dennis Bergkamp and Henry do similar things??

Of course, just like A Migofans says, their recent condition is another factor...everyone was nearly exhausted on the pitch~~Cech has lost that kind of energy that handle both offense and defense well~~and Wenger didnt trust his bench players...I cant remember when was last time G19 playing for Gunners...and Suddenly he was required to step onto the pitch in such critical conidition...Failure is probably the result that Gunners could expect for in CL...

You can see the difference between Fergie and Arsense this time...Sir Alex trust Darren Fletcher and JS Park in some vital match~~like vs Arsenal in FA Cup and 1st leg CL match VS Roma...

so i would say it's kind of wenger's problem this time~~

amigofans

Originally posted by HansChan at 2008-4-9 03:40 PM:
我覺得有啲人講嘢真好低能!
有啲本末...

本末倒置咩? 咁你話我知點解阿仙奴要追番和?
試諗下如果上週係主場贏緊2比1或者1比0, 尋晚輸緊3比2, 洗唔洗出局?
仲洗唔洗成隊谷晒上去輸多球?

個問題係因為自己主場得唔到甜頭, 作客果時唔可以輸,
正因為咁影響到個打法, 一定要狂攻求作客入球, 戰術上已經輸晒..

我再重申, 我都覺得佢地欠運, 但出局要完全賴晒係球証問題, 似乎講唔通,
打12場波贏得果2場, 真係一d啟示都無? 唔通之前12場都欠運?

輸波賴球証, 同賴條柱同門楣, 賴舊草頭賴天氣一樣on居...

就如巴塞若果聯賽最終第2都無, 最好拆左果幾條門柱去燒,
因為上星期, 果幾條柱直接影響佢地和波....

amigofans

Originally posted by arthur8088 at 2008-4-9 04:08 PM:


For me, they are not the main r...

嘩, 真係無留意呢d位wor, 團結同紀律絕對係行先...
呢班友仔都係要教下架啦...

HansChan

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-4-9 05:25 PM:


本末倒置咩? 咁你話我知點解阿仙奴要追番和?

咪就係講哩樣嘢!
乜嘢叫點解"被"追返和??
比賽係兩隊响度打,唔係你入人就就人入黎!
有乜理由叫點解?!
入人波或被入係兩隊波比賽既事!! 係兩隊主角既自我因素!哩個因素可以係實力或運氣!
至於球證判錯就唔可以談得上係應唔應該!基本上係一定"唔應該"!!(唔好咬文著字,我意思係沉晚甘既錯!)
一隊波後防犯錯,係與人冇由,但球證判錯就絕對係外在因素!!
所以去問"點解要被追和"同問"點解要輸"或你阿媽問"點解你係都唔考第一"係冇分別!
你讀完書識晒都好,但傻傻哋自己答錯題,同個阿sir改錯你份卷俾錯你分而冇得上訴,你話有乜分別??你唔通又可以話"咁你又話我聽點解你係要俾你個阿sir改錯喇?"甘???
再講,俾人"追返"有乜應唔應該??有乜怪唔怪自己?
打十二場波兩分同沉晚甘樣輸係兩件立既事,如果佢哋既劣況令佢哋沉晚打得唔好,所以輸,就講得通!!
但沉晚佢哋打得唔好??
輸响乜先?!唔係賴球證!!!係事實球既出錯而輸!冇得連返之前嗰場唔贏人所以搞著自己黎講!
簡單啲講係,阿仙奴要出要逹到某個條件就ok 喇,in case冇外在因素!而家就係一外在因素所以出唔到線!係事實!唔係賴人定怪自己!!
所以以你既既講法,好多都係事後孔明,同根本冇得"點解"!
而家係明顯不過係"俾人入波,但係基本上係好大機會贏返(出線),不過因為第三者既錯誤或不公平而導致個結果唔係甘!
如果可以你甘問"點解要被追和".....甘好多都可以點解....."點解佢哋啲射門唔射好啲"...."點解佢哋唔一早贏夠三比零"......"點解輸完球十二碼佢哋唔即刻入返一球"....."點解個球證唔幫返阿仙奴"......"點解個球證要判錯"...."點解.............點解......點解............."

"個問題係因為自己主場得唔到甜頭, 作客果時唔可以輸,
正因為咁影響到個打法, 一定要狂攻求作客入球, 戰術上已經輸晒.."
哩樣嘢係你話既!!
有絕對??(冇甜頭就係事實!)
強攻就係戰略失誤?????
沉晚被入第四球,無錯係冇人係後面所以輸....強攻緊!
但冇球十二碼,佢哋輸緊時,係火上加油,最後點??咪就係領隊既換人,追成二比二!!
甘強攻好,強守好乜都好....根本唔係"戰術上輸晒"...係隊波"有需要甘打"!!
影唔影响個打法,你同我都冇資格講!係個領隊話既!

[ Last edited by HansChan on 2008-4-9 at 08:17 PM ]