brightlee

I am not trying to argue.....

but when that's only just Kobe in Lakers now, Lakers is in deep troubles. Kobe should have a chance to prove himself....
Odom was the all-star in last year, normally when you get 2 all-star players in a team, they are hardly to get this record nowadays.....

em... ... what do u think?!

shaqkobe

Originally posted by 甘國武 at 2005-3-8 10:55 PM:
問題是kobe和O'neal跟本不可能再通誠合作，這不只是kobe的責任，O'neal也有份的！無論kobe或O'neal，當時也表明了"有你無我"的立場，如果說kobe自我漲澎，那O'neal也是為個人而放棄球隊，彼此之間沒有 ...

我不認為O'NEAL是為個人而放棄球隊，而是他被球隊放棄了，不過不再談二者關係了。甘兄你已經多次偷換左題目啦。
我既論點係:KOBE自我澎漲在於以自己利益高於球隊利益已經千真萬確地證實了佢澎漲的地步。就以馬龍為例，為何當時KOBE對馬龍表示傷愈歸隊一事如比反感，這事對湖人百利而無一害，可是他卻為了令隊中無一個老資格、認可的球員在隊而反對馬龍歸隊，完全係佢個人利益既選擇。只需百多萬的馬龍是何等的值租？馬龍歸隊係絕對能令球隊更加完整。

[ Last edited by shaqkobe on 2005-3-9 at 04:35 PM ]

甘國武

我欣嘗拍賓不爭世務，一世當老二的無私精神
但唔代表為自己前途作抗爭是錯誤
OK二人當時互不相容，現在K留O走
你就說K不對，那是否代表要K向O低頭認錯就可以？
我的問題是：你地一直假定K再臣服於O就沒事
這思想非常唔公平，為甚麼一定要K犧牲？
為團結，也可以是O臣服於K的！
一味用"公共利益"否定K，而忘了O的責任
是完成傾向一邊的想法，不公平也不合理
再說，把"公共利益"無限放大，"個小利益"無限縮小
這和20年前的共產黨，有屁唔同？！

shaqkobe

Originally posted by 甘國武 at 2005-3-9 05:38 PM:
我欣嘗拍賓不爭世務，一世當老二的無私精神
但唔代表為自己前途作抗爭是錯誤
OK二人當時互不相容，現在K留O走
你就說K不對，那是否代表要K向O低頭認錯就可以？
我的問題是：你地一直假定K再臣服於O就沒事
這 ...

我再一次重申無話過O'neal無責任！但係依家只不過係講梗lakers依家既問題，根本唔需要拉到已離隊既O'neal身上。球隊係個人定係一個團隊？相信大家心中已有答案。為了個人而放棄了球隊利益咪就係kobe自我澎漲既表現囉，已經係千真萬確既事實，你拉去共產主義度做咩呢？lakers係一隊職業球隊，kobe只不過係一個職員，當然係應該為老闆工作，以公司利益為先。再者就算佢有自由為自己作打算，不過既然破壞了球隊利益，咪就係佢自我澎漲左囉。"我地講梗既就係呢點，係kobe有無自我澎漲而唔係kobe有無責任，定係責任係O'neal度定積遜定畢斯定曲克……"

甘國武

除了OK事件，甚麼令你認為kobe自我澎漲？

herothree

what's wrong with being No.2???
as some of you guys mentioned
pipen did it
so what???
so what if u become No.1 of a team???
u still have to try to be No.1 in the league

if kobe doens't have problem
why would EVERYONE leave???
EVERYONE???
c'mon...

kobe scored 41 tonight...but guess what...lakers lost
if he likes to be best
then just go play street by himself
(i swear he can't beat the and1 street pro)

i'm not a kobe fan
only becoz he couldn't shut his month
he raped then raped
then blame others
saying others have a crazy sex life too
shaq probably does...but...but...how come no one take shaq 2 court???

i personally think that jackson shouldn't/wouldn't go back
for...what's the pt
he already got everything
rings/$$$...etc
if he wants to prove that he's the best coach
go coach the raptors/bobcats/hawks or....New Orleans (haha)
(think guys, did jackson acheive w/o a SUPA star???...umm...jordan...shaq...kobe...)
going back to lakers just show that he can school/screw kobe anytime he wants
not a proof of being the best coach or anything

also
screw T-Mac
leaving the raps...not wanting to be a No.2
(the way that he left was nasty, if u guys wanna know, i'll start a post of that, but dont' really wanna be reminded)
i have to admit if he didn't leave that day
he wouldn't be this fav. this fast (but he'll still be good, and fav. just little bit later...)
but he might have just gave up a champion ring
i really hope that he doesn't get one EVER
(sorri to t-mac fans...i just dont' like 2 5's)

shaqkobe

Originally posted by 甘國武 at 2005-3-9 06:11 PM:
除了OK事件，甚麼令你認為kobe自我澎漲？

我講過好多次啦，馬龍事件便是。

甘國武

馬龍事件我不太清楚，但不是因為女人嗎？.....

shaqkobe

Originally posted by 甘國武 at 2005-3-9 06:32 PM:
馬龍事件我不太清楚，但不是因為女人嗎？.....

這只不過是kobe一人之詞。
仲有佢話馬龍攪佢老婆係kobe發表左唔想馬龍回隊言論後，受到各界責罵kobe時他對不想馬龍回隊的解釋。

甘國武

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