Originally posted by CHECSS at 2006-1-30 12:38 PM:0 v$ n& R5 t0 z) v( E9 K
ME
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:# q4 I, `$ C/ Y/ M) u
姜維真係咁勁?; v1 y- p+ _+ ^" q1 W4 U" v
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........
Originally posted by 托迪仔T at 2006-1-30 06:01 PM:
羊祜
Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:- e; N) B+ R( [% ]' r
yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:4 e. _( L% e) }- i3 E' e0 r/ Q0 H
司馬懿
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:5 N3 P: t# i/ F7 K
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唔計司馬懿呢?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:4 l6 C2 m+ F2 g0 z/ R: ?9 i
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姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:$ @) k+ _, L5 i2 Q1 o
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why?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:3 ^5 O$ t5 H6 Z. G% p: Z. d B
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:
but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:3 r/ |/ p3 w- c+ a
Just I think3 E: Q% S. p C2 h3 W: P: f2 l
第一五分,第五一分& g) Q8 e& |. z
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諸葛亮:5+5+4+1=15
司馬懿:4+4+5+3=169 U+ r: e2 S+ ], m
鄧艾:1+2+3+4=10( x. c2 g( ?% v/ I( c/ E2 P' g
姜維:2+1+1+5=9& ?: H% ~: @8 Z" y. g
陸遜:3+3+2+2=10
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 Q. I' b% i# D+ @9 |9 a- B3 P/ z
but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 c) x! z B1 n6 e3 B
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 o: j+ V [/ l& |2 U
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him. 姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of 諸葛亮.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree. Both of them were extremely loyalty. However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation. He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 22:20:% Z, m7 r B. ~6 R8 l! h
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:29:
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Many '3 countries' peoples 不得善終 too
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006/1/30 21:32:
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:! @5 [5 b# o0 U: y7 L2 W& W
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........- b8 {5 j+ X" Z" |8 i# A0 @% F4 @
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
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係咪如此?
Originally posted by benny0105 at 2006-1-31 01:46 AM:
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其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫...) e2 b" ]% g" B2 \' D9 T# }
好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:# i2 v; o; {* f: X
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........3 q9 f7 E$ E3 i' ]$ a$ i. b: T2 f" R
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
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係咪如此?
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 02:01 AM:; S2 i$ G( ]/ o$ a- g. H# i
呢個網係講有關三國正史~* M2 j1 [4 o5 x; b( J
不過我諗好多人都有睇過~
http://k-fung.net/han/real.htm
Originally posted by step025 at 2006-1-31 07:13:
你睇演義定火鳳? 你又點知佢地打得?: o! L2 o3 B' E' K( z7 b
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Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 12:56 PM:
P.S 曹魏後期頂住蜀漢姜維主要係teamw...
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 12:58:
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我打機,姜維係最勁
Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 01:02 PM:
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打機鄧艾都唔錯,但正史中,我認為鄧艾勁d
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 13:05:
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點解咁講, M* }: \; p) ^7 w
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[ Last edited by abcde1918 on 2006-1-31 at 01:06 PM ]
Originally posted by 奇 at 2006-1-31 02:05:
歷史中諸葛亮的軍事能力的確沒演義中那麼屈機,但也算不俗,始終對司馬懿也6 E3 Z E) ~; D9 S, ?; N
沒有佔下風
Originally posted by 下......... at 2006-2-13 05:36 PM:
姜維智力夠高, 諸葛亮又將兵法傳左比佢,最勁當然係姜維啦!
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