
Originally posted by CHECSS at 2006-1-30 12:38 PM:0 H' K- H9 s4 P* w* P
ME
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
姜維真係咁勁?
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........
Originally posted by 托迪仔T at 2006-1-30 06:01 PM:( n/ W$ M7 n* a+ W. x1 f5 |8 r
羊祜![]()
Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
司馬懿
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:! \8 }# I% z a Q* C7 f% i
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唔計司馬懿呢?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
why?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:( S2 a/ y( ~( e1 K- z5 \' c
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:- y$ W) t2 l1 e' M4 i
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:1 |2 m3 j! x, B) H( K
Just I think
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諸葛亮:5+5+4+1=15
司馬懿:4+4+5+3=16$ l% R7 ~- g: q9 T
鄧艾:1+2+3+4=10
姜維:2+1+1+5=9- A5 t! n: s: E3 S, a1 P; m2 e% E
陸遜:3+3+2+2=10
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) i: K8 N- A2 I+ N8 H' ]
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& [: v5 I2 w b6 H! O
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:9 N+ I0 R, S3 t& z) {5 V. b3 S
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why?
其實他們實力差不多,很難比較![]()
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( E; R4 g; l$ ]4 c7 Z- W$ f$ U
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him. 姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of 諸葛亮.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# G9 Q! D) j F$ ?! Y
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他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55: ]$ I. E; W5 W" ^% a5 t4 d
Agree. Both of them were extremely loyalty. However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation. He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.![]()
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 22:20:
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:29:
Many '3 countries' peoples 不得善終 too![]()
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006/1/30 21:32:! e+ W/ q5 ^+ ?8 G
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
係咪如此?
Originally posted by benny0105 at 2006-1-31 01:46 AM:+ h- F+ {( n2 e
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其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫...1 N5 v5 q- F$ J! F/ C4 K/ c
好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:$ N/ ?2 ]; D$ ]1 n# t, V2 N" {
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........8 _0 ~1 B0 }7 |; C% l' e3 u# C
佢勁係勁在治國能力............$ z( [4 J( G! q& n3 t$ q
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係咪如此?

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 02:01 AM:
呢個網係講有關三國正史~
不過我諗好多人都有睇過~
http://k-fung.net/han/real.htm

Originally posted by step025 at 2006-1-31 07:13:% C' m! p" {, V/ ?" I2 ` l3 p) h. T: m
你睇演義定火鳳? 你又點知佢地打得?. T; o. C/ Q; X( w% H6 O$ d
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Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 12:56 PM:
P.S 曹魏後期頂住蜀漢姜維主要係teamw...
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 12:58:
我打機,姜維係最勁
Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 01:02 PM:
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打機鄧艾都唔錯,但正史中,我認為鄧艾勁d
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 13:05:
點解咁講: P2 a& F& a" }. C) h
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Originally posted by 奇 at 2006-1-31 02:05:. V. g3 _, ^- A4 ~* O
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歷史中諸葛亮的軍事能力的確沒演義中那麼屈機,但也算不俗,始終對司馬懿也
沒有佔下風![]()
Originally posted by 下......... at 2006-2-13 05:36 PM:3 ?( }$ D6 o# d3 ?
姜維智力夠高, 諸葛亮又將兵法傳左比佢,最勁當然係姜維啦!
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