Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:% V2 a: [* C/ n: G' j( ^4 X
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩3 Z6 c: p# ^- i6 A: f
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:. a* m% z, Q+ s! \% Y
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:/ V4 u; \8 D9 {" L' \$ i1 O5 c
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一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:! A* x6 t; ^- A: N9 I
你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:
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佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:8 F5 r3 C7 C! R
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北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:
非常同意- \* W2 z( z! [7 N3 W
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:
孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層9 X! d! j" j. c3 y
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:" V; Z7 m& `* M$ T. @
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做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題0 p( m7 B& C4 S3 D2 W* M2 r
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:
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我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:4 F' S% _" q* r/ ~* u
那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:1 F$ L9 W% d8 s' Y! G
真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:# T A7 P7 y+ u" X2 |2 X4 M$ |9 p
其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:0 Z3 R9 E8 q9 M% Y! `( _
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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