
Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩! r' A) f Q: A$ u M. k ^
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:: P% s. M" E& o# ]
: }1 C: N% J6 C, L& \
- Z+ h0 C" w- q6 J8 _' X5 o5 r
唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:
唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:) ?% p% o8 M/ F9 V' [3 N9 r
一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:1 x8 _6 g& i a0 l
* j+ ^- A' Q% O( n4 i' k
你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:3 e3 {/ m, u6 L2 ^& g6 D! y
佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:7 U+ C2 [) }" p' r$ r" K4 ]
你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:0 k2 X7 {4 G. Z1 l, g% N, B# m
9 R0 w& R5 F" X6 I
非常同意: q8 O. e9 m/ y; ?( k5 Q: U% |
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:$ e' [+ L5 z. W# q8 k. ~# h4 b0 u
6 s( E. p1 c' R" J3 ^
5 l) ?9 Z$ n5 b6 @
非常同意8 E5 ] ~4 w$ `
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:
f8 k+ [0 l. g" P) f
7 Q G9 ]2 ^, U1 a# l
孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:+ z9 h: D: b' ?9 B) j4 E
5 P+ ^/ K8 U( \' u+ e6 B
孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層% H$ w* W* v$ h% k, y: Z* e& p5 E' s
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:
* X: v' |- D6 J' R2 e1 f
這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題: P, v3 W1 Z6 T' q8 D- e
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:
2 c# ^: J$ G: ~5 n; @7 g6 E
孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:% Y% r9 u& M5 P6 J, c
做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:
我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:
3 o/ Y% T: P2 W5 A# {1 q1 v
那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:8 y3 Q- H8 _8 I- P1 X0 A
3 f9 J0 I+ H; k- T( E
真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:
/ ^1 ~( B) \! d( Y
其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:
# g+ Z0 ]; b( T) n' y$ B) _
咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
| 歡迎光臨 娛樂滿紛 26FUN (http://26fun.com/bbs7/) | Powered by Discuz! 7.0.0 |