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作者: wcchan886 時間: 2007-11-5 01:54 AM 標題: 意甲波古惑多

安玻里對羅馬 2:2
熱拿亞對巴勒莫 3:3
利禾奴對烏甸尼斯 0:0
拿玻里對里賈納 1:1
帕爾馬對錫耶納 2:2

今晚踢左7場(未計祖雲達斯對國際米蘭),和左5場,其中4場有記錄,1場0:0
拿玻里對里賈納89分鐘入波
另外3場都係補時階段先入波,有無咁啱呀?

作者: Kian76 時間: 2007-11-5 03:15 AM

都係o個句：

英超和波多=巧合
意甲和波多=假波

英超4：4=激戰
意甲4：4=假波

作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-11-5 10:03 AM

What's about Portsmouth vs Reading this year?!
2 goals in injury time?!

作者: terencey 時間: 2007-11-5 11:27 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2007-11-5 10:03 AM:
What's about Portsmouth vs Reading this year?!
2 goals in injury time?!

又諗起 7:4 ...... 真係人都癲 .......

作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-11-5 04:42 PM

I got no idea..
why people always think games are corrupted in their mind?
Man........... human can't control all things!!!!

=.=''''''

like do u think Gunners vs Red Devils was corrupted on Sat as William Gallas scored an own goal and scored a goal in 91 mins to draw that game?!

作者: 皇馬_王子 時間: 2007-11-5 04:46 PM

因為意甲個底花晒
以前成日比人爆出係打假波
所以d人好容易就會將假波同意甲連埋

作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-11-5 05:08 PM

Originally posted by 皇馬_王子 at 2007-11-5 18:46:
因為意甲個底花晒
以前成日比人爆出係打假波
所以d人好容易就會將假波同意甲連埋

Be honest, we never know the game will be corrupted or not...

sometimes, they can be, YES, or NO....

But 1 thing I really dislike people... which is... a draw/strange game, in any league... means there would be corrupted!!!

I watch English soccer since 1985... there are a lot of results unpredictable. Even last year, as Man Utd won Roma 7-1... no one expected that after first leg...

But no one was talking about corruption...

I am not saying that game was corrupted.. but nowadays in HK, people are not watching soccer now. When the result for that game maybe not coming out in their minds, they are thinking the game should be corrupted straightly

That's really upset! People always forget the meaning of sports, is gambling in their head!

作者: 勇勇 時間: 2007-11-5 07:13 PM

呵呵~~
雲達斯對國際米蘭都係１：１和波

作者: 038886 時間: 2007-11-5 07:33 PM

italy d波和就假波,,真好野

作者: agogock 時間: 2007-11-5 10:05 PM

尋日場羅馬先離普, 上半場羅馬輕輕鬆鬆就入兩粒, 中場就換走古利, 補時仲俾人追和, 我睇到眼火爆

作者: 艾力克 時間: 2007-11-5 11:19 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2007-11-5 05:08 PM:
Be honest, we never know the ...

我覺得話假波o既話, 場波o既賽果就要解釋唔倒

如果場波追和/反勝/反敗係因為領隊領先時調走主將, 球隊更重視下一場比賽, 或因為某d原因而冇心機踢(e.g.同管理層或領隊不和), 就算賽果唔同預期都唔可以話假波

作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-11-5 11:20 PM

其實係度講過好多次, 講極d朋友仔都唔會明....

假? 咁我好想問, 和左波係咪d莊家就通殺, 唔洗派彩?

假? 我想問你地知唔知點解會有 "亞洲盤" 呢樣野?

假? 我想問你地知唔知要在場22球員, 加上雙方領隊, 後備12個球員, 再加4個球証,
要呢40個人齊心做一場波, 個難度係會有幾高?

假? 你地知唔知祖記同ac比人捉既唔係賭錢, 係收買對手輸比自己?

小弟深信世界上一定有假波, 但亦深信呢d咁高水準既球賽"造波"難度極高
成人講d球員球隊球証做波, 不如先代入下, 就當你自己要"造"一場波,
要萬無一失, 應該要點做, 深入諗完之後, 相信你心目中既"假波"會大大減少...

如果大家對以上幾點想討教, 歡迎之至...

作者: 勇勇 時間: 2007-11-5 11:56 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-11-5 23:20:
其實係度講過好多...

【假波】得益者根本就唔關莊家事，係２支球隊嘅事！！如果２支球隊講好數，然後大大舊錢買落去自己已經知道嘅賽果，真係想要幾多錢就有幾多錢！！

【假波】只要兩個領隊＋兩個守門員已經可以造一場【假波】（再唔係加多２個前鋒，一共都係６個人），根本就唔洗成村人去造一場【假波】！

【假波】小第就岩岩o係１０月２０號睇左一場，就係羅馬對拿玻里，拿玻里入o個４球波，羅馬個守門員都係睇住個波入，一Ｄ反應都冇！

p.s::足球唔一定係假，但係要踢一場假波造一場假波，根本就易如反掌，只要約出街一齊打場麻雀已經可以！

作者: 艾力克 時間: 2007-11-6 12:19 AM

Originally posted by 勇勇 at 2007-11-5 11:56 PM:

【假波】得益者根本...

其實再簡單d, 一個守門員都已經得
最多賽後話佢夢游或者失準

作者: Kian76 時間: 2007-11-6 12:50 AM

Originally posted by 勇勇 at 2007-11-5 11:56 PM:

【假波】得益者根本...

即係

羅賓遜牛油手+柯蛋====佢廢

羅馬個古斯夢遊冇反應==假波

身為羅馬既球迷，聽倒你咁講真係唔知好嬲定好笑好。

作者: Kian76 時間: 2007-11-6 12:52 AM

Originally posted by 皇馬_王子 at 2007-11-5 04:46 PM:
因為意甲個底花晒
以前成日比人爆出係打假波
所以d人好容易就會將假波同意甲連埋

梗係花晒啦，你幾可有聽過大陸反貪架？？香港就反貪反到冇停手，大陸就年中一兩單反貪show咁囉。

即係香港個底花晒喇。

作者: 艾力克 時間: 2007-11-6 01:17 AM

Originally posted by Kian76 at 2007-11-6 12:50 AM:
即係

羅賓遜牛油手+柯蛋====佢廢

羅馬個古斯夢遊冇反應==假波

身為羅馬既球迷，聽倒你咁講真係唔知好嬲定好笑好。

其實每次聽倒有人話假波都覺得好好笑

作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-11-6 02:47 AM

Originally posted by 勇勇 at 2007-11-5 11:56 PM:

【假波】得益者根本...

我絕對唔想咁串用"白痴"去形容呢種思維, 我早就講, 先要代入想"造波"既人,

閣下講到要"造"就只要講掂數就得咁簡單, 呢種思維就真係簡單過小學生...

首先, 你已經假設呢個世界係完美既, 唔存在人世間你虞我詐既黑吃黑...

假設我同你同一班人打場波, 大家講好數要"造"場客勝四比一,
大家如你所講早知賽果係咩, 所有知情既人都一面倒買晒讓球盤, 波膽, 客勝等等彩池,

由於你呢班傻仔買晒果客勝四比一, 填左一大筆錢落去個pool 度,
偏偏身為主隊keeper既我, 同一班後防兄弟講好, 唔輸比你地, 食埋你果舊錢,
我仲可以係出班搵埋一班有錢朋友幫我買爆主勝, 我只抽10分1作報酬.....

呢個只係我小小既舉例, 有我以上既思維既人可能多到你發夢都估唔到,
就算你地兩隊friend過打band, 莊家又可以收買球証, 因為此仍天生, 人類既劣根性.....

足球雖然彩池多, 但其實只有"贏""和""輸"三辦, 形同賭場既"大細"同"百家樂"
賭場也可以出老千, 但何官只有一人, 例諗下如果係同足球一樣, 三四十人打一口莊,
係咪仲'造"得咁順利?

仲有一點好緊要既, 你當d球員係你呢一種升斗小民, 人家個個開架法拉利去球員練波,
我唔明正正當當都搵到大錢, 做咩要去做d穿左出黎一世玩完既野...
當然蠢人一定有, 唔係唔都會有意甲"電話門"事件, 但呢種白痴一定唔係球員既主流...

再講你第一點之愚昧, 我從來只有聽過, "造"波"造"馬收左黑金放水益d大莊,
從未聽過有人蠢到自己真金白銀出錢去落注, 會咁做既相信只有白痴....

泰利番一個月人工大約700萬港紙左右, 碧咸就大約3500萬港紙一個月...
唔講呢d最高人工既, 普普通通一個四大聯賽球員平均都有港紙20萬左右一個月...
我真係唔知如果佢地要賭, 個pool要有幾大, 先夠佢地玩....
唔通靠你果注雞仔注??

作者: Kian76 時間: 2007-11-6 10:59 AM

講多少少。

電話門事件中，祖雲達斯係衰單方面控制球證，甚至禁固出錯球證。

而AC米蘭主要係衰在指定某球證執法。

但好似末聽過雙方夾埋造賽果wor~~~~唔好意思~~~~~

瑞典vs丹麥呢d反而係雙方意識及利益上共通的戰術性偽造賽果2：2。

但唔計得失球既意甲，偽造賽果有咩意義？？

作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-11-6 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Kian76 at 2007-11-6 12:59:
講多少少。

電話門事件中，祖雲達...

i watched Sweden vs Denmark and Italy vs Bulgaria in the same time
I don't think that's any flake results in there.
I still remember when Italy scored 2-1... and within 10 seconds, Sweden scored their 2 goals to draw the game
Be honest, if you were Swedish or Danish
and you know your team can qualify in injury time, will you attack?

作者: wcchan886 時間: 2007-11-6 07:32 PM

見到有咁多人回應,我都回應吓啦
我絕對認同,打假波唔係咁易既
但係假波呢樣野,又確實存在,特別係意大利
原因唔一定係意大利假波比較多
只不過係意大利有關當局,包括足總同警方,
特別留意有可疑既賽事,嚴打造假
咁樣先可以令球賽公平進行
越多人討論,越多人去監察,球隊或球員打假波就會更困難
但係利之所在,總會有人挺而走險

同時間進行既比賽,有4場在接近完場時入波而打和,可能只係一個巧合
球迷發現,足總亦然,透過大家既監察,希望球場上可以有公平既比賽
始終友誼第一,比賽第二,
大家係呢討論亦都一樣,最緊要和和氣氣,友誼第一

作者: Kian76 時間: 2007-11-6 07:53 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2007-11-6 11:34 AM:

i watched Sweden vs Denmark and I...

始終覺得佢地思想一致，佢地開放咁踢，但去到最後如果能夠2：2就100%踢走意大利，唔夠數就有危機，結果佢地真係2：2。

可能我係意迷，但始終覺得呢場波係夾計和波。就好似季尾時d中遊隊冇乜目標又冇危機下對賽夾計和左佢算數一樣。

作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-11-6 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Kian76 at 2007-11-6 21:53:

始終覺得佢地思想一致，佢地開放...

understand what you are talking about

But be honest, that Italian 04 team, they made themselves into that troubles.
They should win Sweden in Euro 04

They played extremely well in the first half, and I got no idea about their coach, change their tactics to defend in second half....

and then Sweden got a draw.....

作者: Kian76 時間: 2007-11-6 09:54 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2007-11-6 08:01 PM:

understand what you are talking a...

查柏東尼太過太過保守。唉~~~`

作者: 屠膠含三世 時間: 2007-11-7 01:24 AM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-11-6 02:47 AM:

我絕對唔想咁串用"白痴"...

我諗你唔知世上有走地波呢樣野

做下功課先去插人啦

[ Last edited by 屠膠含三世 on 2007-11-7 at 01:26 AM ]

作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-11-7 11:25 AM

Originally posted by 屠膠含三世 at 2007-11-7 01:24 AM:

我諗你唔知世上有走地波呢樣野

做下功課先去插人啦

[ Last edited by 屠膠含三世 on 2007-11-7 at 01:26 AM ]

唔知你講左去邊, 你插我插人, 你都睇下我篇野講緊咩先...
我係講緊"造"波果種難度, 同走地波有咩關係?

試試講黎聽下?

作者: 小小康 時間: 2007-11-8 01:22 AM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-11-5 23:20:
其實係度講過好多...

假? 我想問你地知唔知點解會有 "亞洲盤" 呢樣野?

亞洲盤係利用讓球嘅方法去平衡賽前被睇淡的一方嘅機會，不致注碼一面倒，減少莊家嘅風險。

我想知同議提有什麼關係？？？

作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-11-8 05:44 AM

Originally posted by 小小康 at 2007-11-8 03:22:

假? 我想問你地知唔知點解會有 &q...

I don't care about亞洲盤
it's totally out of topic

作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-11-8 09:38 AM

Originally posted by 小小康 at 2007-11-8 01:22 AM:

假? 我想問你地知唔知點解會有 &q...

你已經解答左一半, 無錯"亞洲盤"呢種玩法係平衡兩面注碼之用,
除此之外, 大舊錢買落去個pool度會落飛, 封盤等等動作亦都係用作平衡之用...

假設, 大莊家會經常性收買球隊造波圖利, 何解仲要諗呢d玩法出黎去平衡兩面?
即使造到一個預設既賽果, 因為對家亦有大量人買, 佢地亦要派彩...
又要控制賽果, 但又要去平衡個彩池令自己無利可圖, 會唔會非常矛盾?

其實一個莊家只要平衡到注碼, 賠率控制得宜, 就已經大把錢賺....
我絕對唔明佢地點解要花咁大力氣去"造"波, 去試圖操縱一d無法100%操縱既野...

香港馬會02歐國杯首次攪賭波, 短短一個月總共賺左50幾億....

假? 你知唔知賭波未合法果時, 點解咁多人明知犯法都搶住去做"艇仔"收人波纜?

作者: darkensun 時間: 2007-11-8 04:34 PM

我係意甲 FANS, 我唔相信意甲真係咁多假波, 就算真係有個別球員收錢, 但都未必能100%控制賽果

另外呢個 FORUM 好似唔可以講咁多亞洲盤喎

作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-11-8 05:55 PM

Originally posted by darkensun at 2007-11-8 18:34:
我係意甲 FANS, 我唔相信意甲真係咁多假波, 就算真係有個別球員收錢, 但都未必能100%控制賽果

另外呢個 FORUM 好似唔可以講咁多亞洲盤喎

sorry, not in here
goto gambling section

作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-11-8 07:58 PM

Originally posted by darkensun at 2007-11-8 04:34 PM:
我係意甲 FANS, 我唔相信意甲真係咁多假波, 就算真係有個別球員收錢, 但都未必能100%控制賽果

另外呢個 FORUM 好似唔可以講咁多亞洲盤喎

我攞出黎講係因為, 講人家"造波"搵錢必須明白足球博彩如何運作...
我絕對唔係鼓吹係賭波, 同係sport版研究波盤...

當細心用個腦諗下控制一場高水準聯賽既難度有幾咁高既時間...
你就會開始識尊重番d識球員, 唔會咁易就話佢地收水...

作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-11-8 08:43 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-11-8 21:58:

我攞出黎講係因為, 講人家"...

另外有一樣嘢想講
球員係人,唔係玩CM,玩Winning,玩Fifa
都有自已情緒
狀態起伏既時候

唔好有一點奇怪就講"做波"

自問一句
你返工有無做錯嘢? (就算係低能既錯誤)
你返學讀書,背默係唔係每次都100分,無錯?

球員係佢地既職業
踢波比賽就等如你考試,返工一樣

如果你有做錯嘢,佢返工做錯嘢既時候就話打假波,賭波
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