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作者: Xtravagant 時間: 2008-2-18 06:07 PM 標題: NBA 交易疑問 (Kidd 去小牛)

之前有傳Kidd 會trade去小牛﹐個交易大概係甘:

Kidd + Antoine Wright + Malik Allen

換

Devin Harris + J.Stackhouse + D.George + Diop

但由於D.George吾想被換走﹐J . Stackhouse 又話咩過左去NJN之後30日再返番DALLAS打波﹐而令到個trade一拖再拖。最後將D.George +J.Stackhouse 變成T.Hassell + Keith VanHorn.

Hassell +VanHorn 基本上係廢物﹐但點解個trade仲要加拒地上去? 聽講係因為NBA既SALARY restriction...

有沒人知我講緊咩? 點解NBA D 交易甘煩又複雜既? 好似足球甘﹐只要你比得起錢﹐球隊願意放人﹐交易就成功。NBA好似吾係甘簡單...

希望有高手可以解答 =)

作者: cam_kwok86 時間: 2008-2-18 06:18 PM

u have to match salaries in nba trades

作者: 倫洋 時間: 2008-2-18 06:40 PM

Originally posted by Xtravagant at 2008-2-18 06:07 PM:
之前有傳Kidd 會trade去小牛﹐個交易...

首先我想講 Hassell 同 VanHorn 唔係你所講 gem 廢

其次係, NBA 的理想諗法中, 球員唔係商品唔可以用錢買
但係大家可以O係兩支球孩同埋球員四方面的同意下, 大家換隊

至於點解要加 Hassell 同 VanHorn 係因為 NBA 有 Salary Limit
用黎限制 NBA 好似 Chelsea 用錢買人, 同埋用個個高 Salary 的球員一隊
用意係令 NBA 每隊平均 d
超出 Salary Limit, 要交好高的 tax 的 !!

作者: Xtravagant 時間: 2008-2-18 06:58 PM

Originally posted by 倫洋 at 2008-2-18 06:40 PM:

首先我想講 Hassell 同 VanHorn ...

Thanks, but isn't Van Horn retired? -- I don't know, he is like C.Webber, hasn't play for a long time and takes age to get back to shape

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2008-2-18 08:12 PM

Both Hassell and Vanhorn never submit retirement paper to the league, so technically, they are still free agents. They probably won't play after the trade, and to the Nets, they are just another 2 expiring contracts.

作者: eggplant 時間: 2008-2-18 08:29 PM

VanHorn??

以前對此人都有過希望 (當仲係76人既時候)
之後就每放愈下

若果客觀咁睇, 佢真係好廢

作者: john01daly 時間: 2008-2-18 10:39 PM

Actually, Jason Kidd will join which club.

作者: 艾力克 時間: 2008-2-18 10:53 PM

Originally posted by john01daly at 2008-2-18 10:39 PM:
Actually, Jason Kidd will join which club.

dallas (小馬/牛仔)
但樓主話係小牛

作者: acyh 時間: 2008-2-19 12:35 AM

Originally posted by Xtravagant at 2008-2-18 06:07 PM:
之前有傳Kidd 會trade去小牛﹐個交易...

首先la~nba係有薪金上限既...
所謂薪金上限,
顧明思義係每支球隊能拿來聘請球員的總薪金有上限...
超過某一個上限就要比稅....
再過某一個上限就要交豪華稅...
以今季來說...
好像薪金上限約5500萬美元...
豪華稅則大概6千多萬...<-(超出一美元要交一美元的稅ga

)
這樣做是防止球隊老闆再大方也不能利用銀彈攻勢將所有明星球員通通聘來
這樣可以保護小市場球隊和保持聯盟的競爭力,
也有助提升比賽的精彩度....
這些事只需有個概念就可....
而然,這只是說明nba薪金管制,並不涉及球員交易....
在nba...交易是需要對等的....
即是交易雙方送出的球員,在薪金上要對等....
也就是說,如果你要交易出本隊的500萬級球員,
那麼也只可預期會收回差不多500萬的球員....
冇記錯的話....
若要交易球員最多只能換回本隊換出球員薪金的115%,再加上10萬美元的球員....
由此可知...交易kg有多難吧....(年薪2千多萬-.-""

所以才要一換五的....
順帶一提...選秀權大致上是被定為冇價值的...
即不計算在薪金中....
就以上kidd的交易黎講...
net肯接收T.Hassell + Keith VanHorn.這兩個被你稱為廢物的唯一可能性...
就係這兩人合約年度快完...
而且高薪....對球隊來說也只需忍耐一年,就可說byebye lu~...
這樣可以清空薪金....
湊出足夠的薪資空間...
這樣可以高薪吸引合約期滿自由薪既球員...
就像今年magic簽李維士同96年laker簽o'neal一樣....
而D.George 就因為佢合約有權自己拒絕交易.....
所以牛仔就唔能夠換走佢....(like kobe....)
J.Stackhouse就真係唔多知la~...(明明佢好似上年先續約...)
估計可能J.Stackhouse會叫nets買起佢份約,
變同提早自由身...(like 上年76人出清webber)
之後再番牛仔掛....
其實nba資仲有好多有趣既野....
like最低薪條款,中產階層條款,傷病條款等...
得閒可以自己搵黎睇下...^^

[ Last edited by acyh on 2008-2-19 at 12:38 AM ]

作者: Chenjinnan 時間: 2008-2-19 01:29 AM

Latest rumor said such trade can be unsuccessful. If VanHorn and Hassell are traded to the Nets, the league requires them to "play". I am not sure if remain inactive count. If they are not willing to, they might retire at once and the trade will not work again.

作者: abc!@$% 時間: 2008-2-19 01:43 PM

KIDD 已經確定重返Dallas,
睇黎今年西岸季侯賽隊隊都要打足7場.....

One hour after Rod Thorn groused over the way everybody had jumped to conclusions about the deal died a dozen deaths, he sent word to a team VP last night that the trade "appears to be a go."

The final hurdle was cleared at roughly 9 PM, when Keith Van Horn consented to sign a $4 million contract that makes the trade work financially and report to New Jersey for what is estimated to be 30 days of work.

The Nets will send Jason Kidd and Malik Allen to the Mavericks for Devin Harris, DeSagana Diop, Maurice Ager, Trenton Hassell, Van Horn and a pair of No. 1 picks for ང and ཆ.

From: http://blog.nj.com/netsblast/2008/02/done_deal.html

中文版:
北京標準時間約凌晨10時、籃網和小牛的交易最後跨過了最後障礙， Keith Van Horn 終於接受 4,000,000 美元合同並且即將前往新澤西報道，當然，他已經接受了必須在新澤西待至少30天的事實。籃網方面將會送出Jason Kidd以及Malik Allen，而小牛交出的筹码則是包括Devin Harris、DeSagana Diop、Maurice Ager、Trenton Hassell以及之前提到的Van Horn。與此交易同時，籃網還會在單筆交易中將Antoine Wright送到了達拉斯换來了一个160万美元的交易特例，此舉也為Van Horn騰出了一個空位。

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作者: kgkgkg212121 時間: 2008-2-20 06:31 PM

隊隊都想嘆即食麵... 尤其西岸, 越搞越多星雲集o係幾隊...
無奈冠軍只得一個...

作者: Xtravagant 時間: 2008-2-20 07:59 PM

Originally posted by kgkgkg212121 at 2008-2-20 06:31 PM:
隊隊都想嘆即食麵... 尤其西岸, 越搞越多星雲集o係幾隊...
無奈冠軍只得一個...

I like this metaphor =D

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