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作者: Asurada129    時間: 2005-5-14 07:48 PM     標題: 巴士一談[00+][積極回應會員+]

哈....我想問下各位BRO.喜歡坐現時冷氣巴士定舊式開窗巴士...6 p& p3 n; h" Y8 o' I4 F; p! ~9 w$ g1 ?

/ r) E, i- P/ \) z6 _7 z2 U: S本人喜歡舊式開窗巴士多D....因我喜歡開窗於公路有鮮風吹著既感覺, 好FREE.....雖然有時天氣熱, 坐冷氣巴士有冷氣歎, 有時又有女(靚的)睇, 賞心樂事.....但本人亦多次試過上左架唔係好開冷氣既冷氣巴士, 個時又冇得開窗,焗到死, 所以到現在都不太喜歡現時冷氣巴士, 唔知各BRO.有冇試過此經歷, 或有同感, 大家一齊分享下啦....!!/ N7 o; r: x* d5 {
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[ Last edited by sfxc0000 on 2005-5-14 at 08:34 PM ]
作者: crap    時間: 2005-5-14 07:59 PM

打死都要空調, 起碼靜D
) K1 W2 j3 j7 Q2 P不過有時都會想坐下熱狗既
作者: 月月鳥    時間: 2005-5-14 08:04 PM

冷氣巴士.3 c" ?+ j3 K" e& L3 ~# T8 r) [, w
- 夠靜[沒車外的嘈音]
, y& V9 o: {( R" m5 b7 n* u! a - 夠涼[現時,車子行走時的鮮風太污濁]
8 D; ^. C/ [) c - 有女睇[根據我的經驗,冷氣巴士.是多d正女]
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 08:25 PM

我都鍾意舊巴士~~~) D/ X. ?" Z6 p! V& q
因為我唔係太鍾意D機油味5 j2 |% G: h1 f. A* Y: q7 [, Q; D
我聞到o個d味就會好想嘔" W: B& S: d+ U" t. E5 I
所以我鍾意坐o係上層o既頭位, 開住個窗吹風~~1 J% X. W) p# L; w
一流:cool:
作者: 月月鳥    時間: 2005-5-14 08:27 PM

Originally posted by sfxc0000 at 2005-5-14 20:25:
; `" X, I! H5 Y9 m4 H- w我都鍾意舊巴士~~~% t7 F0 b2 I" E; J! j
因為我唔係太鍾意D機油味
1 a, _. S/ F) `我聞到o個d味就會好想嘔: j+ O  O2 z  Z4 b: {5 W+ K/ }2 z
所以我鍾意坐o係上層o既頭位, 開住個窗吹風~~
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果度死先噃通常
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 08:28 PM

Originally posted by Asurada129 at 2005-5-14 21:48:
0 c# O' C5 E! w哈....我想問下各位BRO.喜歡坐現時...
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ha.. my favour questions!!0 Z0 s( ?9 l2 h, ]  f# r
but what models you would like to talk about?6 P& `) V7 H1 t- C* ?# X% R7 k3 {
Dennis Dragon air cond vs Dennis Dragon non-air cond?
" P3 g9 }& j" _8 |! s1 G8 zLeyland Olympain air Cond vs Leyland Olympain non air cond?
& l8 V+ \7 l5 N2 ~0 {em.. Dennis Jubliant?
0 P3 n+ n, Z; l  |& b: jLeyland Guy Victory II??
* m/ W! W' N4 a$ Q0 |( T! j* EDennis Dart?
  G6 @( A% Z2 r- S7 Z" O, sDennis Triedent?1 b. O3 }& r4 a
Benz o405?+ m& q$ M" F5 y  j
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Scania N113?$ X& W2 z+ c8 p$ p# I' r
or?????
作者: Christy~呀華    時間: 2005-5-14 08:30 PM

Originally posted by crap at 2005-5-14 07:59 PM:! Q. f  Y4 y& O# t1 r
打死都要空調, 起碼靜D; [  V9 V) X) S, X) V9 L) ?
不過有時都會想坐下熱狗既
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我都係咁話!
8 H) r* o+ f; u1 b9 g8 t/ t) j有冷氣既話夏天凍天坐都OK,
- a$ U. c  |" \4 s% M熱狗就回味八九十年代!
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 08:31 PM

積極回應會員+58 I) N0 K' ^8 [  ^+ |
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[ Last edited by 月月鳥 on 2005-5-14 at 08:32 PM ]
作者: 月月鳥    時間: 2005-5-14 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Christy~呀華 at 2005-5-14 20:30:& e7 F% `& L" w$ M

( a( s5 h9 r! X8 u我都係咁話!" n& F, N& _5 _1 H# |/ m( ~: S
有冷氣既話夏天凍天坐都OK,
+ T: j' A0 P: Z; h熱狗就回味八九十年代!
# W# l2 ^/ W, a" |( V4 D/ g, [都話d女仔喜歡冷氣bus!~!~
作者: 月月鳥    時間: 2005-5-14 08:32 PM

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作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Christy~呀華 at 2005-5-14 22:30:
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我都係咁話!
0 e( R6 G# U( ^( v4 B, H有冷氣既話夏天凍天坐都OK,
( i* _( @: L' `( B2 h9 p% J- Q熱狗就回味八九十年代!
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; q5 _1 Z" H1 Z' Tin truth,* }, j4 l8 G/ p- Z' G) X1 x
I love to take Damlier CVG6,
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Well, I remember the days that when I was going to church.5 L3 W0 e% _  c" B$ f) ^, K" o% ]
it took me about 20mins to church... the sit was so uncomfortable..& i# I2 U/ v2 S; d0 ]9 u- K, s
but as I took it in off peak hours+ P4 |4 K, n: A/ x) k) s/ X6 O
I can enjoy the movement of the bus, even the voice of the engine..* D: Y% O5 J4 g- e. B; U9 }
so great in that journey.
作者: hkmoney    時間: 2005-5-14 09:25 PM

air-cond bus!!
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3 J  c* }0 }- m0 H" abetter the new ones, less noisy... (like trident)
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old bus need to sit 3-seaters and the sweat-smell is killing me (too hot!! ) . newer bus also more steady: A1 Y7 @1 Q; ^: w5 o

6 K' ~9 X* r# G; `3 b[ Last edited by hkmoney on 2005-5-14 at 09:26 PM ]
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 09:29 PM

Originally posted by hkmoney at 2005-5-14 23:25:7 R# G! x4 k3 D3 P% A
air-cond bus!! - v4 H  E# C! q3 D6 a

0 |* ^3 A1 L  f3 K0 a8 i1 }. ^better the ...
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cos the design is different...5 B$ J. v* x2 @& b9 `

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6 J1 i9 r+ J0 h8 G4 q$ l  h4 Uin the past, human body in HK was not as big as nowadays
$ G5 Z  B* X( f' {8 ithat's why the seats were designed in 2+3 system
作者: 艾奧羅斯    時間: 2005-5-14 09:37 PM

都係鐘意舊式開窗巴士多的..* d7 P- Q. G6 _; G6 n) N" L
有時比的清風吹下正過的冷氣..
& h  X+ U9 Y' x3 n3 e依家的位分晒一個個..覺得以前的位好座的..由其係同女朋友一齊果陣,坐的兩人位可以攬緊(正經的啊,冇其他野)
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 09:51 PM

Originally posted by 艾奧羅斯 at 2005-5-14 23:37:/ B6 H" `0 d' K, k' t) p
都係鐘意舊式開窗巴士多的..
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9 v' i3 k6 ?" \7 p5 Y- ~, Vin truth, since 80s, when the buses were starting to use 3+2 seats system....& z6 W+ p( C- ^) z# Z2 H7 b( m2 I; L
sometimes it could be really embrassed when 2 males were sitting in the 3 seaters, especially when there's full....! s' m% e6 W4 M, d* X& V: V4 J! c
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when a female came in... that's really embrassing.
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:23 PM

finally the photo of Daimler E in ther web!
  ^, W2 W$ n2 Y! {' a2 H+ uthanks for the web owner!
  j4 Y. A1 C; L) eI find it really long time!!2 J; U  _3 X6 K8 s% X! j; y
(Daimler E)

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作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 10:24 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-5-14 10:23 PM:
, x' `5 K" G. H5 ~9 Rfinally the photo of Daimler E in ther web!
  h4 V1 m# q* Fthanks for the web owner!) y: ~; b6 ~) o9 o) P
I find it really long time!!6 A" r- h! p8 ^! S
(Daimler E)
# ?" v7 k8 @9 j2 L" qbright兄你係一個巴士迷 =.="
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作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:27 PM

I love buses since I was 3 or 4 years old!!!
& n. j7 t: P3 P6 tthat's why I can help you guys to answer "some" technical problems about buses
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 10:28 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-5-14 10:27 PM:
6 G5 l2 q: `4 e1 w- z* NI love buses since I was 3 or 4 years old!!!) U0 X- |2 Y. R9 e" V5 p
that's why I can help you guys to answer "some" technical problems about buses
& i( W$ A, E3 @% f: Mbright兄真係精通好多樣野^^"
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:33 PM

Originally posted by sfxc0000 at 2005-5-15 00:28:+ O- z2 K0 t( S9 Y! }9 r* o4 T0 t
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bright兄真係精通好多樣野^^"
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, w& K6 i9 c+ n1 kJust learn it together!~~~
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:36 PM

Originally posted by sfxc0000 at 2005-5-14 22:25:
. u& E# U* b+ h, W* M我都鍾意舊巴士~~~
6 ]5 U+ W$ z/ t) c& v. d因為我唔係太鍾意D機油味) L/ a: B3 T0 ~, C% i+ L
我聞到o個d味就會好想嘔# h% O6 x% y( ^2 M# |; ^" M
所以我鍾意坐o係上層o既頭位, 開住個窗吹風~~8 A8 d. b) Y, `
一流:cool:
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9 H, _+ S* P* p& Hi heard about this problem before!; j) |$ y# a2 j1 A9 b& X) s
but I get no clue about this!!
8 V& H0 o* Z3 U" {- s: A# k* B! sI guess, the problem is: when mechanics fix up the buses, they don't clean it completely..5 l* [& w/ L; N) [: T
and as air-cond buses are in closed environment) A1 d+ I( r3 O4 \
the smell from engine oil can't evaporate easily.
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:42 PM

Air Conditioned buses:+ T0 c& F; G$ K
Dennis Trident 12 M- I. _/ s8 K0 d9 p4 c- f$ E0 {
(one of the examples)

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作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 10:44 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-5-14 10:36 PM:3 C% ~7 _+ s2 h" X2 ~1 @
i heard about this problem before!8 E) I, {4 L( r9 l5 n, i( e9 t
but I get no clue about this!!* R  [$ i) c; y5 M
I guess, the problem is: when mechanics fix up the buses, they don't clean it completely..- q" C; j9 J. i6 x0 q. c6 U/ x7 w  u$ r5 \
and as air-cond buses are in closed environment0 c4 O6 d) U. v$ ~
the smell from engine oil can't evaporate easily.
8 E0 B7 Z9 h9 v% y( _9 [( A) s唔知點解 =.="
+ ]$ o! c- M& R7 g) ~) i! h2 Q我對d機油味好敏感 =.="
作者: Christy~呀華    時間: 2005-5-14 10:52 PM

Originally posted by 月月鳥 at 2005-5-14 08:31 PM:) O$ _. n1 l& A/ v+ B4 u

2 k- n) W% e" x, y/ I8 ?% i都話d女仔喜歡冷氣bus!~!~
3 t9 Z- ?  [( a有冷氣爽D嘛!
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Christy~呀華 at 2005-5-14 10:52 PM:, _" j$ M) V- w0 I7 W( W3 W

+ [0 d) k, M( a& ^8 L+ P: h有冷氣爽D嘛!
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high d
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:55 PM

Originally posted by sfxc0000 at 2005-5-15 00:44:: ?) u, M, p- k8 v! ~. S4 C
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唔知點解 =.="
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em, everyone may have allergic for something.7 p, M1 s  L9 E" s
you maybe engine oil,
& K6 X0 r2 Y, V: h- c* lI am..... Onion..............~~6 j! H: s. \0 Q# b+ T9 d
so don't be surprised......~
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 10:56 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-5-14 10:55 PM:
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em, everyone may have allergic for something.
& Z& V, G, h* z+ U  Gyou maybe engine oil,  q* N: _$ T3 O; C, l' O
I am..... Onion..............~~7 n; d% G7 N' D  l! r0 R4 I% p2 o# Y
so don't be surprised......~
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  Q1 `7 Z% P' |' e; e. [* Y; R所以我都麻麻地鍾意搭巴士
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:58 PM

Originally posted by sfxc0000 at 2005-5-15 00:55:
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high d
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4 Z4 _  t9 X" O; O7 u( d+ A0 e9 Hin truth, enviromentally not-friendly for air-cond buses...~
作者: waithung    時間: 2005-5-14 11:55 PM

我就梗係choose冷氣巴士啦~
/ m: v. m5 b5 N+ R& Y( |車外的嘈音實在另人難受!
3 [" ~6 S4 Z8 L9 t- O+ {3 d最重要的是>>>>我搭舊式開窗巴士時,試過吹左$100出去,真係........
4 e$ I" ^- n1 z5 z7 R所以我寧願比多一個幾毫,死都要搭冷氣巴士!!!!!
作者: jason williams    時間: 2005-5-15 01:11 AM

sure with air conditioner
- j% @7 z; w, o9 h$ v( \' [6 ]1st, no smell of diesel fuel: e1 D4 q3 [; W4 N" V/ V
2nd, more comfortable seat" y! j+ J1 T5 V. O
3rt, no need to torerate the wind when someone open the window fully
作者: man2535    時間: 2005-5-15 01:17 AM

我覺得夜晚坐冇冷氣既巴士行郊區地方好舒服!
作者: 老鬼X    時間: 2005-5-15 05:26 PM

夏天打死都要空調, 冬天就無所謂 我太怕熱
作者: 奇    時間: 2005-5-15 07:50 PM

冷氣好d...無咁多塵同小生命/ W# J* B/ W# c# }* |8 m' ~3 x
落狗屎更加.....d椅一定濕,一係關晒窗局到死
/ [( ~6 P6 q7 H5 u) r. Z不過有時想坐下無冷氣,吹風一流
作者: SEEK    時間: 2005-5-15 07:54 PM

梗係冷氣巴士啦....靜d,d位舒服d,冇窗唔會吹亂個頭...冷氣巴真係多d年青人座架,靚女都多d啦,相反熱狗真係特別多阿公阿婆座....仲要保充一樣野,香港地空氣咁差邊到仲有鮮風俾你吹呀,打開個窗食塵就有~
作者: goodday    時間: 2005-5-15 09:49 PM

冷氣巴士啦!!
4 \/ C0 y6 E) V! s8 V又坐得舒服d,又好似清潔好多
" l' y9 t3 K* @3 U又有roadshow睇~~3 M# B! H/ s0 C* g8 l
都係多一個幾毫8 N; y5 ~0 {+ A* `
仲要依家大部份都係冷氣巴
作者: kingtiger    時間: 2005-5-16 12:44 AM

舊式開窗巴士...因為可以品嚐到風ge滋味...
1 V2 T" \# M+ A- c, d9 }; L+ P' ~. i0 z冷氣巴士反而得唔到風個痛快感.......太反映現代科技化
% ~" U  z  d' z* n2 r* s冷氣巴士.......可惜失左自然感
作者: MaxFigo    時間: 2005-5-16 12:53 AM

夏天坐熱狗好辛苦...: w+ Z" \- `/ \- i5 M3 D
特別係同女朋友坐果陣...
9 [: ~; [& @! o2 H0 t- N" {) P大家都成身汗 ^^ haha
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作者: Gretzky    時間: 2005-5-16 01:19 PM

Originally posted by man2535 at 2005-5-15 01:17 AM:
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Amen to that above!
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- T7 ~& A6 S' Q, v- n6 j9 ?To be honest, I hated the new air-condition bus. The breeze from an open window is nothing compare to the cold, smelly air-condition.) ?4 Z4 D. _# X7 G. }6 W

2 M, I7 K5 f3 V/ s  o) P: PIf I am in a hurry, I'd drive or take the MTR. But when I get a chance to take the bus, I rather pick the old ones. There aren't many non-air conditioned buses around since CMB was
6 p3 k6 Y2 F* o' l8 [5 E'demolished' a few years back. But my heart would fill with joy when I take the #7 line (from TST Ferry Terminal to Lok Fu) on the old buses. I think this is one of the few lines that retain the usage of the old buses. And believe me, crusing on Waterloo road on a Sunday morning....sitting on the top floor with the windows open is one of th rare treats you can get in HK!. q* F9 m4 O7 g1 R0 f6 |1 E
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I was so lucky to be in those buses for a fews years when I go to work. To the same degree, I love the trams too.$ Q+ y- J9 Y. z* ?( o
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Below is one of my personal favourite....I used take that to Ocean Park when I was a kid.

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作者: yuripenny    時間: 2005-5-16 01:42 PM

梗係現時冷氣巴啦...雖然有時d冷氣凍左多
. M4 [6 e+ L. A4 M/ a但係夏天坐熱狗係會死的@@...
! ?! r& R  d1 A, c; b我覺得最辛苦係夏天落雨個時...如果坐熱狗...# Y1 H5 `0 p: B
唔開得窗...又焗...d椅又濕...極之辛苦
5 n- W6 ^$ X7 M: c' @所以冷氣巴好好多
作者: KrisX    時間: 2005-5-16 01:59 PM

現時冷氣巴士: 點sit 都得, 有冷氣吖ma, summer ge 時候, 坐著, 幾爽吖, 有可以四圍望, 唔鍾意又可以舒舒服服訓覺 % |: g# d8 F6 m9 G  P3 s

, b$ N' b5 Z: r* m9 O. @舊式開窗巴士: summer 指定--- 上層車頭開window, 有風吹風, 冇風吸塵
作者: wolfevil    時間: 2005-5-16 03:05 PM

兩樣都應該有.但係要殺哂開窗巴士
# t- M3 I% P/ `/ ]開窗巴士可以有新鮮空氣流入, 如果郊外, ! t9 W/ g: K2 D( S
都唔使開冷氣. 冷氣車d位就好座
* j* X0 Y% K/ B. {" H" s以前Daimler E, 珍寶, 勝利二型都出名
作者: payne    時間: 2005-5-16 03:34 PM

夜晚坐舊式開窗巴士好d~可以吹下自然風[不過要食塵=.="]% N' c" h) E5 [6 I4 Z9 {
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冷氣巴都好,凉D,多女睇D~A_A
作者: 良友    時間: 2005-5-17 01:09 PM

係好熱既時候上到一輛冷氣巴而且有位既話係非常非常舒適的!
作者: 小虫    時間: 2005-5-17 02:13 PM

落雨既時候舊式開窗巴士最唔掂,多數都係冇山窗,尤其係大雨,成個坐位淋到濕晒: h! w. t  u$ s( G: I3 G
想坐都唔敢坐,冷氣巴士就冇E個問題,而且冷氣巴士比較舒適(個人覺得)
作者: stone86    時間: 2005-5-17 02:58 PM

人好難返轉頭,當你舒服慣,緊係唔會用返以前的. b0 S' W: p! @5 h% N
有得揀,你都會要冷氣啦!
2 z# l4 e/ [" y1 F! C我星期日坐左架熱狗回家,返到家成身濕晒
$ F" {( F3 ^' N下次我一定等到冷氣先上車呀
作者: 【車仁】    時間: 2005-5-17 06:35 PM

舊巴士比我感覺舒服d,8 W# [% d% M" a
每當有風吹過既時候,
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好舒服!!
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一冇冷氣就嗌晒help=.="
& a6 f. z* `/ o/ ^# r) g, r, h你又唔諗下冇冷氣日子還是要過.: r/ W" L8 P. K* e4 A
以前果d薯頭巴士諗番起會回憶番好多小時趣事,: W) i) |% N) P. ?9 _
唔通你冇??




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