I think we have to try to communicat and talk to them in a short time. And we can ask them to give the permission of Earth people to live in. If they say "OK", that will be fine. If they say "NO", we have to show them some power.作者: hayatokasami 時間: 2005-7-8 11:13 PM
當然佢可能會歡迎我地, 但你作為一班死剩種o既首領, 到底你係羅幾百萬條人命去賭一舖定寧願殺六十億低等生物(因為我地已高班過佢地幾倍所以視佢地為低等)去確保我地可以生存呢?作者: joycejo 時間: 2005-7-9 12:30 AM
假設我地真係要去到戈個新星球既,都幾得意....慢慢重新成立新既人類世界...即係侵占埋佢地既星球...人類就係自私既.....所以呢個係定理作者: fatfatdragon 時間: 2005-7-9 06:52 AM
我覺得要考慮多方面的因素. 其中幾樣較為重要:. l' |, V+ V, g' [* n
1. 當地人是否可以同地球上生物自然地生態溶合. 如果唔可以就會有問題, 因為會自然地出現兩個文化. 以一開始的武備差距, 好容易出現內部戰爭問題. 最後的結果都可能變成戰爭, 不過一個是主動(開戰侵入)和被動(當地出現排擠) 6 G8 D7 p! j5 ~; m) Z) }2. 當地資源 如果當地資源不足, 你想和平溶入都好難. 最後只有搶或入侵. (始終在武備上有優勢, 就可以主動些) , c1 C* l e' r3 M/ y. ] q3. 當地人口 如果少人, 無論硬攻或軟求都好方便, 而且可能可以同化當地人. 但是如果是多人口 (再加上少資源), 就冇得選, 可能要硬打然後強權控制. (不過相信好難, 以前中日戰爭可以反映) 0 ^* Z8 u* d( a P; S1 q; W: Y% d# j最後, 其實都有一個中庸d的方法. 就是用武力或外交 (和平主義的我建議)要求該星球提供補給, 或作中途補給站(可暫時駐留部份人口), 地球一方就可以繼續探索更適合的可移居星球. 6 l7 ~$ z4 L5 [9 H6 n! ?; ^/ _$ W6 I8 q0 @; d
[ Last edited by fatfatdragon on 2005-7-9 at 07:19 AM ]作者: wanmankit 時間: 2005-7-9 08:10 AM
如果去到個星球，個到d外星人有好多人9 t5 m: C3 C1 U' L u
冇武器一樣可以圍死我地既 ( t: g/ Z- i0 y雖然我主張和平，但係如果到時比佢地學我地d野# R8 Z! _6 W' G
一下我地就死....+ O/ A. q: Y" M- N7 ]- K" o+ a
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但係如果佢地係好小人，又nice - j6 j4 c) L8 }5 K) ^大家又發覺可以相處到，咁大家咪一齊生活囉作者: 科 時間: 2005-7-9 09:41 AM
最好當然係KO佢地3 n. N/ }! z% p) b
搶左個星來住; B3 S$ y" m" X) S" ?; M; [* D1 F
但如果人數差咁遠 ! N9 c5 @3 p9 z用武力可能會弄巧反拙7 i2 T1 a9 A" h, s# c4 N. S1 s6 y
正如之前有brother提到/ J1 B: B, v0 g
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萬一佢炸幾粒核彈過來 4 Y9 Z y; A7 q' [) s0 P令該星球出現核冬天 ' [! A0 N$ ], N* N; e+ [3 h/ Y$ {; H大家都只會係一齊死....... @ l! H! J, T, D2 n0 E0 b ) E' P+ m2 h8 u3 \) e0 M9 G: n看來共存是較好的方法作者: abcde1918 時間: 2005-7-9 01:02 PM
如果係我,首先我會同班外星人打好關係,當佢地逐漸信任我地之際,我就會祕密地同同胞商量怎樣消滅班外星人,只要時幾一到,就立即殺哂班外星人,有可能你會問點解要消滅班外星人,原因好簡單,就是想佔據整個星球,尤自己統治整個星球,成為話事人* \7 K$ O8 Q3 k3 T) B6 Z+ l6 d O& d2 C
- F- i. ~. e; ^# G) s2 i- V[ Last edited by abcde1918 on 2005-7-9 at 01:04 PM ]作者: Edison 時間: 2005-7-9 01:32 PM
i will kill all of them lar because we are already over population and wt is the point to live with them??? It is their planet so wt?? what is they backstap us then we will all die, to kill them first is a good way to prevent war between us and them, once they die we got nothing to worry about.作者: RyuII 時間: 2005-7-10 12:04 AM
8 B) A Q/ g* L* t8 l6 Q6 l從歷史的角度看，由於雙方的實力有差距，最後只後征服與及被征服的結果。 自古至今人類有和平，是因為國與國之間有Balance of Power。 當這個平衡被破壞了之後，戰爭只是遲早的事。6 X5 V1 x( y" n
- Z0 K" v6 w7 v: i. M: x其次是資源的問題，資源是有限的，根據進化論，物競天擇，有能力者會爭取佔用最多的資源，這是動物界的法則。 既得利益者(原居民)又怎會放棄自己所擁有的，與一些不知名的外來生物分享？ 縱然現代有所謂共享利益，已發展國家同發展中國家一同發展，達致雙贏的說法，但別忘記這是已發展國家經歷了殖民時期的掠奪後，在近代提出的冠冕堂皇的說法。 假如真的有雙贏的話，那麼第三世界國家還是這麼的窮？ 歷史是會不斷重覆自己的，在新的星球由於勢力的不平衡，只會引致掠奪的情況。9 E. ]- f, W$ c N$ h
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如果大家有睇Matrix第一集的話，記得agent Smith對人類有一段很深刻的形容：「人類就好似細菌一樣，每去到一個新的地方，就會秏盡當地的資源，不斷的分裂擴散...」 1 G, a7 e \1 m! ?+ X - g! }* {3 P: i& f7 H[ Last edited by RahXephon on 2005-7-10 at 12:18 PM ]作者: simc23 時間: 2005-7-10 11:53 PM
"最勁o既武器只有核彈"，咁同佢打扙都好易兩敗俱傷架喎4 i8 c' ~5 {! K, W. K
兩邊都扔幾個，個星球都冇得剩- s; ]& W6 C7 p! a( ~' t
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就好似美國佬去到新大陸，D印第安人都變左瀕臨絕種作者: csstudent2003 時間: 2005-7-11 08:49 AM
0甘 大 獲，0米 死 0羅！作者: Little Boy 時間: 2005-7-12 12:02 AM
我假設那種外星人都是和人類差不多 * D! p; Y6 j7 ~2 ]$ A; E我想, 戰爭最終都是會出現的 8 a; a% C7 s; e8 @+ ^. K因為人是有私心的, 誰會願意把自己的地方與人分享?8 b: G9 I. M( s% W4 k
一時三刻, 出於援助, 暫時把別人收留都或許會有# G& R( h. e8 D, ^# p
但如果是落地生根, 長期一起生活, 就肯定會有磨擦, 為什麼要和別人分享自己的資源呢?0 E R9 V$ E8 C1 p. `# [6 w8 Q
就好像美國在南韓或日本駐軍咁9 s+ q; C9 c- `5 x" R: h t3 L/ c w
當地人根本已不太願意, 只要有什麼美軍強姦/非禮案件出現的話, 便立即牽動人們那種反美情緒( Q* F* h* U. B4 x7 Z4 j
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無論外星人人多又或者人少, 對方有核彈... 如果真係開起戰上黎... 這個星球, 在戰後還會否依然適合人類居住呢? 恐怕最後一拍兩散... 0 X8 C1 j8 V4 s, A5 x% N Q$ B& o3 ]& v( u l' D: [2 x2 ^
所以, 我覺得最初應該嘗試首先和平共存先, 但同時要暗地裏為日後那場不知何時會來臨的戰爭積極備戰.作者: Ninka2005 時間: 2005-7-12 09:02 AM 標題: My opinion..
First of I had to thank raymond302 and Edision because they wrote their replies in English. Without their replies, I have NO idea what the heck the topic is about! hehe ' C. g3 b/ \, U8 p ( g; X* I L6 t, ~; P1 PI just finished watching War of the Worlds and coming out of that movie it makes me think that we (as humans) can be soooo weak compared to other beings in the universe. 6 b, c' q3 @2 z" L" a$ V X % [2 w3 _- U5 s6 C: i! Z7 L1 {" ^To those that don't believe in 'aliens', I watched a movie a long time ago...forgot the name of it but Judy Foster was in it. She was asked by a kid "Are there 'aliens' in out there? (paraphasing)"... I really liked her answer 6 ~3 { y1 A, e, ~. u4 U* W* W3 w 1 p3 L4 Y$ r" Y. ~: p, T/ _' U/ h! ~"There are more stars in the universe than sand on earth. If we (humans) are the only one in this universe than wouldn't be a WASTE of space?" 4 I" A# X( ^& j8 h; {7 v2 i5 O# w7 j2 ?. Z+ }
I don't believe we have ever been visited by 'aliens' but I do believe that there are other 'life' in the universe.8 k( i! p4 y% p
0 U: E9 {/ ~% e; x/ i; o2 T5 j! F5 sIf 'they' do come to earth then there is really not much we can do... Therefore, to ask "what we should do", in my opinion is not relevent. Our only action/response to the 'aliens' should be the same 'intentions' as the 'aliens'. ie. if they are nice then we should be nice but if they want to kill us then we fight back and hope for the best. Lastly, for all the reglious group out there, I don't believe in god but if there comes a day where we are under attack by 'aliens', I HOPE YOUR GOD CAN SAVE US! hehe =P8 a5 |# l1 [: z7 F& a
* b) t) a8 ~4 p$ ZNinka作者: RyuII 時間: 2005-7-12 10:29 AM
thank ninka but there is a bit misunderstand the topic. t% [' m; f& @5 L
9 Z, i6 w% Y2 t# L: ^due to earth is over, we need seek for new planet for us to living. Luckily we found one planet is suitable for us but also other human being is living there. Their technology is equal to our current level (the strongest weapon of them is nuclear bomb) and we are stronger hundred or thoudsand times than they are. As our leader, what is your decision? kill all of them or live with them together? * R7 y: W0 Z4 z! O# J0 i& w / R% K1 B1 z0 D, N$ _if live with them, something you must consider:) E6 w& G7 P, y& ?
1. Are they nice or just pretend nice? * J" \9 ` l" s# G- @9 v2. Our technology is stronger than they but how long? will they learn from us and kill us finally?- f2 K; I* w; ?
3. They have over six billions and we just only million people, can it balance, what will happen under this scale?, j7 A( y( ^: U
: x! _; O# v: j+ L6 thowever, if you choose war, what is your plan? . Y- K3 U, r5 q4 v b6 P" b- F, u * k* y# q8 g. T7 `( _[ Last edited by RyuII on 2005-7-12 at 10:34 AM ]作者: RyuII 時間: 2005-7-12 10:54 AM
各位主攻的朋友請問會用乜野方法去罷佔個星球呢? 0 R1 q7 a* b9 r9 C9 R5 P( { # S7 l3 G( O. S. v/ X: C: q或者我講先, 如果要罷佔好似我地現時呢種智慧o既生物, 由於佢地已有武器可把自己星球毁滅, 強攻可能得不常失. 但假設佢真係同人類差唔多的話, 我會選擇用生化或細菌戰去同佢地打. 仲要係靜靜雞咁令佢地死晒都未知係我地做. - ]# h1 @* I/ b9 K' B & E5 b0 t& A+ n但最終我未必會殺晒佢地, 到佢地死到得番幾十萬人o既時候可能會出現然後扮救世主咁醫番佢地. 而我亦會o係呢個星球上做好多建設去彌補殺左佢地咁多人. 到最後我亦會o係補給左之後再去尋找其它星球然後番個星球佢地作者: Ninka2005 時間: 2005-7-12 11:04 AM 標題: My 2nd opinion!
Thanks RyuII. I told you my chinese sucks...=(* q+ L" c* f/ l6 c' f# }
2 U7 g% t, |7 C! T0 A+ w0 ]/ Y( _& ?I think your desciption of the situation is exactly the same it was on earth a ten thousand years ago where humans started to evolve and our intelligence surpass the animals. We have been living with the animals since then but look at where they are now... a lot of the animals are extinct. We are 'truly' the master of the planet even though we like to stay we live 'together' with the animals... in fact we are just 'letting' them here. ; c4 _! y8 w& s! E1 O; s : `6 @3 f+ h Y( sI don't think there is any possibility of living with the 'them' long term. Like you said, their technology will catch up to us sooner or later....then what do we do. 0 a9 |/ a) l [5 s3 J1 ^! \, z7 K3 n
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We must do what ever necessary to protect our lives now and in the future. First thing I would do is destroy all their weapon technology so that they can't fight us. Then, I would start protecting ourselves and try to find another planet to go live. For our long term survival, we have to find another planet. We can't live with them for long term. + f- K. e% j6 N& d1 F5 Q ?! y5 P# A! d7 F
Ninka作者: Asurada129 時間: 2005-7-12 04:56 PM
我會揀和平共處wo.... / W0 P6 ^8 i1 d1 t # q) n9 K3 b8 G" s4 x, U) a9 f風水輪流轉....今日你滅人...聽日其他人都滅到你je ' A* D0 a, g% N* r& q不如和平共處 / r' y8 G& |1 c6 ~/ ?6 `唔會打仗浪費哂d資源4 D% d& X m" T+ q' |/ z9 P
再慢慢積蓄下/ T3 `+ ^4 v$ t6 p9 s+ H
再去搵過個新ge星球去住lo @@ 5 @7 ^8 }" e* Y" W9 @ % u# [$ |: A' S# j) j[ Last edited by MaxFigo on 2005-7-14 at 05:21 AM ]作者: kaigi 時間: 2005-7-14 10:35 AM
我會同個d星球人針下 ! Y0 f" [$ Q) M2 [7 y, v1.大家睇下有冇第2個星球可以被我們住7 E y* e0 `4 B. `
2.大家一起住 9 S. C+ c4 m: k7 C2 s3.地球人被睇為次一等的生物 繼續在他們的地區生存(& S, j% V4 K: i Z, Y
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侵略他人的領土作者: 地球人一個 時間: 2005-7-14 11:45 AM
我諗首先要同果個星球既首領傾傾先， 6 L; d: p# Y( A- b; h7 \$ I6 H同佢傾下而家我地個星球點樣點樣，( M0 j# W+ ^% g" `& r9 ^
問下佢地有ｄ咩野解決辦法可以解決我地星球既危機，; P4 P& z$ c1 k3 @3 X
但如果個問題真係太大，連佢地星球的人都唔知點收科，2 j1 O$ r) z R
非移民不可的話，就只好求佢地可唔可以收留我地星球的人，3 W4 x9 n& F# M* H
但如果佢地唔肯的話，可以比Ｄ著數佢地，6 r/ X& o6 e9 Q
例如比好多天然資源，該星球沒有的物質， 9 p0 }: X+ A/ L介紹新的科技比佢地，同佢地結盟，; q# v' b2 m$ @' b) V& S
幫佢地同其他星球一齊打仗等，但如果佢地咁都唔肯的話， 6 {# w* I4 j1 a% p% Y* b咁就只有再快Ｄ搵其他星球，我唔主張消滅人地，( V. Y" b; @4 { F* V% F
始終人地都無得罪你，唔比你去佢星球人地係有權的，+ c. Z$ N7 I6 h; N4 }8 S( n. I
而且自己都知道地球會滅亡，都唔想人地好似自己咁慘， 4 v8 m5 D; D0 t* J所以如果佢地真係點都唔肯的話， + s/ {; i9 o' B3 `咁就只有認命算吧作者: leolyk 時間: 2005-7-14 03:16 PM
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