甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:24 AM:2 F- t, ?1 {0 l" [

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yes,but...wht 關係 with 夏候's family？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:26 AM:- e- s! B  h( F* Z3 |- P! G
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曹操祖父本性夏侯，因曹騰收養了他，故改性曹,對不對？

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yes,so 夏侯惇、夏候威等 are 曹操堂兄弟# Q2 \- ~7 z" S6 b) M
more than half 將軍 is 姓曹&夏候

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:33 AM:& {' M0 B8 [& z; c6 O

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不是夏侯惇之侄嗎？
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$ j2 J1 F' s* x$ O夏侯玄是夏侯尚之子，最後......

: m0 s% k/ r* G# B9 qyes,i like 夏侯惇 very much$ J8 K8 ~# l, P1 K7 L7 h
his eye 中箭,he put it out,& eat it: ]0 g3 r  K3 B7 v- ?+ K4 R1 D
very man！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:39 AM:! L- g0 E% d  c4 T- w6 k8 P
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夏侯惇也算是魏國的一個名將
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* B" X5 T' U/ U9 y曹仁也不錯

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諸葛's family也強，分散投資

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:44 AM:. N" n6 B8 W1 ]  N) h

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一代忠將，不向司馬屈服，可敬！

) ]# `* F1 H7 Z3 a. I$ Fwhy曹魏無忠臣？ask曹操吧~

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:51 AM:
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有！陳泰，母丘儉，諸葛誕，許禇，張遼，王經......

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this is 忠將:cool:

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:54 AM:) T/ Q% D$ g& R7 l/ C& ], _1 T
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) P4 C1 t, p& Y2 T王經係忠臣
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* ]1 P9 e& V" a- n* x, W9 i程昱，賈詡，高柔......

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  T1 b. |9 C) l/ j; s- a兜都唔比兜，好串喎！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:57 AM:" \8 E& m' T# D' V
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事旦，程昱在呂布偷襲時......

/ w8 d9 h8 Z" m3 ?, ]我想說的，是曹操的唯才主義...

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:59 AM:
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陳琳

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don't just two words,ok？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 11:01 AM:* o7 i" t0 V# l  s7 j3 v. }2 W2 r8 ?
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* X* {7 f! i0 |陳琳臭罵曹操幾代，仍能不死

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