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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% H  S% ^+ c4 a1 t/ r
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) n2 k: R3 r* S' C/ H# \7 Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( m" b7 B3 E9 G) H; j9 ]# C
why this happen? just simple........punishment! ^2 X1 l  h) V9 p# u. @. h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" @+ @' F" C4 t% f8 P) |but why jesus need to do this?# P& F5 E  l2 L9 Z
punsihment for what???
6 h3 _1 L# p$ L8 M4 dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ [% Z6 c) K7 a; x8 d% Htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 n% |5 X5 D! Hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 j. t' A0 i+ w" h" Hwhat will u do???
2 p1 K  I2 c. e1 T" J% b9 a. l( a4 {just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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+ @; T; Q) ]6 `. z8 I1 i5 A8 Tsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 w+ N2 _! w; Y  F/ p2 ]
bro singgeihot and rest365days1 ~8 ^, w) N- c7 ]# G$ ~; |9 {
honestly, if there is jesus- u6 i5 y2 x3 x5 M2 A3 X' B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ Q: n2 f+ g, w4 M
we can't blow him :cool:

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3 o; n3 X- \/ E3 O' sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
' f% v& B! l' t自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( L9 e7 @. p. e6 thaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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9 l9 X4 V5 K' x1 o( Uthat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
- s" w4 Q) y' p2 }; I* G6 ?stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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4 {/ p" s" C( x7 F4 d0 vFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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3 E' k: M# k9 g$ t+ G如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
2 t/ j% R2 n8 U& e$ e如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
7 c4 R+ V1 [8 p* I- l- l; [pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:8 L$ O( j- }% L
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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& f# K9 n9 B+ L3 F1 W" _& b- J" u停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.# [2 y8 {) v$ `2 Y8 g+ ^
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.5 N3 M, I- c& W: ]+ q
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.