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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 {8 H" {( z( \( M2 f/ m4 |5 q
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  i5 N: y$ ~( @7 g5 tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* u9 S9 H+ L. C- f* U- ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! D% N; N/ \+ a2 |# gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : _8 X4 V5 q( I: u/ b) I0 _% s
but why jesus need to do this?$ o( j. o. C; T
punsihment for what???/ M+ t/ c& t; {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: X4 H) @8 L- ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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7 F3 z/ e8 {2 I* M( M1 Xwhat will u do???: M( x8 c/ A; I% a7 H# ]' S: o* @; A
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / Q8 ]: E5 U2 h& q2 b6 r! M3 R

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
! k6 E* H/ Z4 The really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 A& H, x1 a* e# w* {$ h2 }
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# G8 i4 K' F; h+ E  w自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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5 A! U% k( I- V/ _; ^% c  V& b: vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..! Z+ e7 h2 r; n( J
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:9 G4 D$ B* t; G3 w( g$ ~8 K
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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# V! \1 D, g4 r; J/ ]如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?+ f" o! k* B! ]$ A) V
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:/ q5 M* E$ S" s8 ]4 B& ~8 b5 I+ ~. S
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎$ @, |% q7 C; p& }; z& _
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:8 R" u+ v) M9 r: g+ C7 X4 \
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:4 c6 I/ ^/ a8 H+ X8 O; V" A+ A4 B
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.1 k! `, |) y0 A. ?5 o
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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, W: v4 K2 M' k- T5 e" z相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.