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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
7 C4 G) f, \, x8 |$ zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 ~* {6 ~$ Q+ u, o/ p) V
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 g( W2 u% [0 ~3 ~why this happen? just simple........punishment- b& N- s$ N* U# m5 Z; n
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 @7 ]: \: `3 [, `0 Gbut why jesus need to do this?
( u& u+ G' U  x( npunsihment for what???1 {- p2 L; a* Z& N
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ L9 Y5 y' }: C9 U' R
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???
( d. d8 M0 W& Z! b! vjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / F: n; I- Y( h; ]0 d

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. ?7 V# w6 f5 g4 J" w% ssorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 m% T( V& r/ i& c/ K
bro singgeihot and rest365days1 U+ ^  G; H$ d; _; B) P1 ~
honestly, if there is jesus' Y  a7 J" R+ v  I! f
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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# A+ h/ g, {" a' Lunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
( X' C$ p8 Q. ?) \自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..% O7 _$ W; C5 F- {
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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' ~8 c! s: h% t$ o如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
9 Y, \8 k0 ]( n$ I9 X) T: y$ [如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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3 H7 |1 v9 v. \( }* ?sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎4 p' t* N5 G. k* N) x8 g, K
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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2 Q; s, |, p1 M; i7 {- @God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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6 r  O$ T+ U; U& K  pwhat???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
2 ]8 O4 ?$ P  ^0 S如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.! [# D8 ]4 S, o6 f: Z
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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) s5 X0 ]4 ~/ V: M8 Z- o$ f相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.