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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: Q$ i2 x0 |: H! \% p3 dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! w  {- p' c% K# m7 i- l, ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 ]% F$ j7 t, h
why this happen? just simple........punishment
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but why jesus need to do this?" n- m1 o0 \8 o1 Y& L6 W
punsihment for what???4 `7 M2 S* I; E! I
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 q7 a0 w" g0 x! R. [  q5 Itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 q( }! C* K  @7 U1 `; L" ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* n- }/ v2 {5 Y5 vwhat will u do???& y9 F9 Z$ ?: w& i- y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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" H0 L% O0 r1 ]sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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* a/ w( D% c$ x* ~honestly, if there is jesus
1 B* N$ F3 F5 O7 T% T/ Y% Vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 x. H# F% G: e+ f7 L/ A) I; Xwe can't blow him :cool:

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, P' m, ]6 `5 gunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:' |: r3 ]1 j' C! h2 n0 w
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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/ h5 g3 \. q6 D0 F$ i! qhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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5 \  C# ]5 p6 q$ A6 ^that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..% _4 c: X( }. E' G; s' A  @
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:2 B; `* [& w+ x4 L2 C! ?

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5 ]% ]9 R! w" s1 w% rFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
) a! I3 x: i, O2 ?/ w+ W( p如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎1 Y4 x: m& q! P4 W1 S% b
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:* s9 }0 i5 L4 B5 t

( R. U6 {. `3 @7 i6 g" n) eGod arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:! r$ m$ e) O% V1 k& n( w4 L
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.: [$ R. }. ?% H  w% u

( Y; m5 B# S" t我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.